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IRC log for #evergreen, 2019-07-09

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05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:55 Dyrcona EDI pusher should retry connection failures.
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12:23 Dyrcona "Fun" with EDI....
12:38 mmorgan Fun with autornewals...
12:39 mmorgan Should an autorenewal be attempted on a circ that has auto_renewal_remaining set to NULL?
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12:42 dbs mmm. NULL is neither true nor false. I wonder if we should set a constraint and/or a default (if we don't already)
13:00 mmorgan So, there is a validator CircIsAutorenewable, but the default Autorenew trigger uses CircIsOpen.
13:00 * mmorgan hopes that will be a quick fix :)
13:03 Dyrcona mmorgan: CircIsAutorenewable doesn't do what you think.
13:03 Dyrcona It does CircIsOpen, and then checks if the patron is barred. That's it.
13:04 * mmorgan was just seeing that :-(
13:06 Dyrcona It could be made to what you want, however, with the addition of some code.
13:08 mmorgan Maybe a better approach would be a new hook rather than tweaking the validator.
13:09 Dyrcona Maybe.
13:09 Dyrcona What's another hook? :)
13:09 mmorgan :)
13:09 mmorgan Don't create an event if it's not going to be valid anyway.
13:11 Dyrcona Well, yes. I've recently been thinking that in regard to a number of events. However, in the case of autorenewal, a notice is generated so a patron may need to be informed that they're out of autorenewals or the item cannot be autorenewed.
13:13 Dyrcona Autorenew should have an opt-in (or maybe an opt-out), IMO. I could see someone not wanting to have their items autorenewed.
13:15 mmorgan Some materials aren't renewable at all, so it can be confusing for a patron to get a notice saying a renewal failed on something that they understood was not renewable.
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14:02 JBoyer mmorgan, FYI: I haven't forgotten that desk_renewal bug from a week or so back, I'm just stuck for some reason. :/
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14:03 JBoyer As for this one, I would hope that remaining == null should mean don't try, but I don't know what query pulls potentials off hand.
14:03 mmorgan JBoyer: No worries! I'm stuck for many reasons ;-) Thanks for looking at it.
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14:12 jvwoolf1 Does anybody have courier code on their transit slip/hold transit slip?
14:12 JBoyer jvwoolf1, I believe PINES are big users of it. We don't use it here though.
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14:14 mmorgan jvwoolf1: We have used them since the beginning on our transit/hold transit slips
14:16 mmorgan Used to be that every item going in delivery needed a slip, and libraries could just pull the slip off the receipt printer and stick it in the book.
14:17 mmorgan Less need for the paper slips now, but they still get used.
14:18 jvwoolf1 JBoyer: Thanks for the tip. I found the code on their documentation site.
14:19 jvwoolf1 mmorgan: Thanks. We have been using it in xul, but I needed the code for the web client.
14:19 mmorgan Ok, gotcha.
14:25 * mmorgan adds  "-not" : [ { "auto_renewal_remaining" : null } ] to custom filter to solve immediate autorenewal issue.
14:33 JBoyer mmorgan++
14:35 Dyrcona Should work. mmorgan++
14:35 berick huh, yeah, missing some constraints.
14:36 berick and defaults
14:36 * Dyrcona patches RemoteAccount.pm so it actually logs the FTP error messages.
14:36 Dyrcona Of course, since I did that, we haven't had any FTP failures.
14:38 Dyrcona Anyone else having trouble sending to Baker & Taylor last week and this week?
14:47 dbs win 30
14:47 dbs win win win!
14:54 Dyrcona :)
14:57 Dyrcona Puts Rube Goldberg to shame....
14:58 mmorgan bug 1835953
14:58 pinesol Launchpad bug 1835953 in Evergreen "Autorenewals should not be attempted on circs where auto_renewal_remaining is NULL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835953
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17:30 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
18:32 sandbergja dluch: I don't have anything to report regarding the Evergreen Quick Starts -- okay if I take it off the agenda for Thursday's DIG meeting?
18:34 sandbergja Is anybody else getting a big error message when trying to search the mailing lists?
18:34 sandbergja For example: https://georgialibraries.markma​il.org/search/?q=documentation tells me "ERROR
18:35 sandbergja : The requested URL could not be retrieved"
19:06 jihpringle sandbergja: I also get that error if I try to search the mailing lists from the search box here https://evergreen-ils.org/​communicate/mailing-lists/
19:07 jihpringle also, I get the same error if I click on the (using MarkMail) link right below
19:26 csharp yeah, looks like a problem with markmail
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