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05:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:22 montgoc1 Ever since we upgraded to 3.1 our logo does not consistently print on our receipts.
10:23 montgoc1 It appears that the content on the receipt pulls in faster than the logo.
10:23 montgoc1 We typically pull the logo just off our web server, but I've tried a locally saved image too and it still doesn't work consistently.
10:25 montgoc1 I was just curious if anyone else has come across this behavior.
10:36 * csharp looks around for terran, who serves as our receipt-printing guru
10:37 littlet Yes, @terran knows best on this, but I have heard her say before that logos have to use https vs just http, if that helps
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10:40 montgoc1 Yes, I discovered that.  Looking at some of Pines documents I found what may be a fetch.php that pulls in the logo.
10:40 montgoc1 i.e. <img src="https://pines.georgialibraries.org/dok​uwiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=logo.png"">
10:42 Dyrcona montgoc1: That fetch.php is part of dokuwiki and has nothing to do with Evergreen.
10:42 terran montgoc1: In our libraries, it's always because they are not pulling from a secure https site   (the php referenced is just where our example logo was sitting - nothing releated to evergreen)
10:42 montgoc1 Gotcha.
10:42 montgoc1 Yeah, we're pulling from a secure https site.
10:43 * Dyrcona wonders if using something like that makes it more consistent than going straight to the image?
10:43 * Dyrcona doesn't see why it should, but software does get weird.
10:44 csharp could be DNS or strict firewall somewhere?
10:44 csharp or a cross-domain blocker addon in the browser?
10:45 * csharp is surprised we don't see more browser addon conflicts with the web client
10:45 terran If you open the browser console, is it giving you any errors?
10:45 montgoc1 I'll check the browser console.
10:45 littlet Like my font changer one with vandelay, which was a fun (...not) troubleshoot
10:46 csharp littlet: oh yeah, I remember that issue
10:46 csharp (btw, off today, but I can't resist a good troubleshooting problem :-) )
10:47 montgoc1 What's your hourly consultation fee? ;)
10:52 csharp ha!
10:53 csharp but seriously, $100/hr
10:53 * csharp is here all week folks
10:55 littlet Don't forget to tip your waiters!
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11:00 csharp Christineb: missed you at the conference this year!
11:01 Christineb I was sad I couldn't come!   Vancouver Island University just went live on Sitka's Evergreen yesterday!!
11:01 Christineb I have been there for training and support so I couldn't come to the conference :(
11:01 csharp oh - congrats on that!
11:01 Christineb Thank you!
11:02 * csharp starts campaign for 2021 conference in BC :-)
11:02 csharp Christineb: hope you can make it to Atlanta next year
11:03 Christineb Ben and I were thinking Vancouver 2022
11:03 Christineb :)
11:03 Christineb He suggested Tofino
11:03 csharp awesome!
11:03 Christineb but I think it will be a little hard to get to
11:03 csharp wow - that looks nice
11:03 Christineb I definitely will try to come to Atlanta
11:04 Christineb maybe Jennifer and I can both come
11:04 berick wherever it is, it should require a 2-seater floatplane to get there.
11:04 csharp Christineb: hope so!
11:04 Christineb Tofino it is
11:04 Christineb :)
11:05 Dyrcona 2021 would make it 8 years from the last one in BC.
11:05 csharp Christineb: in any case, I want to you to meet littlet in person sometime soon
11:07 terran Vancouver2022++
11:09 Dyrcona Speaking of conferences, there is no comprehensive list of Evergreen conferences on the web site is there?
11:10 csharp http://conference.evergreen-ils.org/ still points at the 2013 conference :-)
11:10 csharp pretty sure the 2012 site is lost to history
11:11 Dyrcona This is also incomplete: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org​/doku.php?id=conference:start
11:11 Dyrcona csharp: RE 2012 confernce https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/lib​/exe/fetch.php?media=conference:20​12-eg-international-conference.pdf
11:11 csharp the 2011 site *should* be available off the pines site somewhere
11:11 Dyrcona The program is preserved for posterity.
11:12 csharp oh good
11:12 Dyrcona I've managed to piece it together. I was curious to figure out which conferences I have attended, and I have apparently attended more than I though while filling out the conference survey this year.
11:13 csharp http://pines.georgialibraries.org/evergreen2011/ - d'oh! 2011 site is busted from old PHP
11:13 csharp schedule link still works
11:14 csharp https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/d​oku.php?id=conference:eg10&amp;s[]=grand&s[]=rapids - 2010
11:15 csharp ...and 2009: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/d​oku.php?id=conference:eg09:main
11:15 csharp so there, I guess we have artifacts from all of them
11:16 Dyrcona csharp: This is the most complete place for recent conferences: https://evergreen-ils.org/conference/
11:16 Dyrcona Turns out, I've been to all the conferences, but the 2 in Georgia.
11:16 csharp "Memories... light the corners of my mind" ♪ ♬
11:17 terran Dyrcona: You'd better come to Georgia next year!
11:17 csharp srsly, watchoo got agin us, huh?
11:17 Dyrcona :)
11:18 Dyrcona I plan to attend next year's conference.
11:18 csharp we will feed you grits and corn pone til you bust, son
11:18 Dyrcona 2010 was my first Evergreen conference, and there was some reason that I didn't go in 2011, maybe something to do with budgets or migrations and/or tsbere going.
11:18 Dyrcona heh. I actually like grits and corn pone. :)
11:19 csharp then you have a head start!
11:19 terran I've lived in Georgia for almost 10 years and I still don't know what corn pone is.
11:19 Christineb csharp - littlet?
11:20 Dyrcona I just threw this together: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lmomgv​hQqfbdW-F6I5sehTbPT2aHe0EHH3mvA9baR8k/edit#
11:20 csharp littlet: meet Christineb
11:20 csharp Tiffany Little is our acq specialist at GPLS
11:20 Christineb ohhhhh
11:20 Christineb Hi littlet!!
11:21 csharp terran: just another name for cornbread
11:21 terran csharp: ooooooh
11:21 * csharp assumes it's a corruption of "pain/pan/pane"
11:22 berick huh
11:22 * Dyrcona prefers the not sweet kind.
11:22 Dyrcona Looking at the list, 2010 doesn't seem that long ago, and yet it does.....
11:23 berick <Bart> Hmm, looks like we're out of corn pone, fat back, hard tack, fat pone, corn tack...
11:23 csharp berick++
11:25 csharp I would repeat the truism that southern cornbread is never sweet, but I've been to many potlucks with sweet cornbread over the years
11:25 Dyrcona berick++
11:26 Dyrcona My grandmother never made sweet cornbread.
11:26 terran I'd never heard of not-sweet cornbread until I moved here. I grew up on Jiffy and still love it :D
11:26 * Dyrcona has to find her recipe. It's probably in Wilmington, NC at the moment. ;)
11:27 Dyrcona So is the 2020 conference officially in Atlanta?
11:28 Dyrcona So, I think we should do 2021 in BC and 2022 somewhere else, really overseas... Prague, maybe?
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11:30 terran Dyrcona: yes - Atlanta April 22-25, 2020
11:30 Dyrcona terran++
11:30 Dyrcona Thanks! I just want to make sure my list is accurate.
11:31 terran We are already picking out restaurants for dine-arounds
11:31 Dyrcona I recall some discussion about that during Friday night conversations at the conference this year.
11:33 Dyrcona Hmm.. Has anyone been putting conferences in gmcharlt's history of Evergreen repo?
11:33 gmcharlt Dyrcona: I've been putting them in for past conferences
11:34 Dyrcona gmcharlt: Neat. I'll check it out in a bit, literally. :)
11:34 gmcharlt Dyrcona++
11:41 Dyrcona gmcharlt++
11:41 * Dyrcona looks up the date that CW MARS went live on Evergreen. That seems to be missing.
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12:00 littlet Reading scrollback--was on phone. Hi Christineb! I hope you can come to the conference next year, I'd love to meet you :D
12:02 Stareagle Ok this might be daft question but here goes. I am installing a dev server using Bill Ericksons script and am trying work out how to stop and star Evergreen/Opensrf etc. In the instructions I have found online it mentions certain command to be run as the Linux Opensrf user. When I su to that account it asks for the password and I beleive the default is opensrf. This doesn't work for me and I cant seem to find out what it is. Any
12:05 bshum Stareagle: You got cut off at "Any h...." help?  But in any case
12:05 bshum I think berick's script doesn't set a password for the opensrf user it creates by default
12:05 bshum I usually just use my sudo rights user to change into the opensrf user as necessary
12:06 bshum Like "sudo su - opensrf" from my main login, etc.  (which yeah guys I know, I know)
12:08 Dyrcona Stareagle: use sudo instead of su.
12:08 Dyrcona sudo -i is pretty much the same as su -
12:09 Dyrcona "sudo su - $user" is about the daftest thing bshum has ever suggested. :)
12:09 bshum Hence "yeah guys I know, I know" :D
12:09 bshum I do it all the time, cause bad muscle memory, but I like ending up in my home directory of the user I switch to
12:11 Dyrcona Stareagle: When/if sudo asks for a password, you enter your current user's password, not the one you are switching too.
12:11 Dyrcona If you don't specify a user, sudo assumes you want root.
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12:12 Stareagle Draycona : Thanks for that
12:15 Stareagle Maybe I didn't install things right. I used the sudo -i but it comes back with -bash: opensrf: command not found
12:16 Dyrcona Oops. I forgot a detail.
12:17 Dyrcona "sudo -i -u opensrf" gives you a shell prompt as that user.
12:17 Dyrcona You need the -u to specify the user.
12:17 Stareagle Ha thats like the missing semi-colon :-)
12:18 Stareagle Cool that worked
12:18 Dyrcona "sudo -u opensrf <command>" Runs whatever command is in <command> and everything else are considered options to command.
12:24 Stareagle Thanks for all you help it is greatly appreciated
12:24 berick confirming the script does not set a password.  i sudo su to opensrf.
12:24 berick you can of course set a password
12:26 Dyrcona bshum tells me in private chat that he made just add a task to do that.
12:26 Dyrcona s/made/might/
12:26 * Dyrcona reminds himself to slow down. :)
12:26 bshum It'd be an easy enough thing to add, set if someone says so in the settings config file or something
12:26 bshum But I'm also pretty lazy and focused on other stuff today
12:27 bshum Like eating my lunch
12:27 bshum :)
12:27 * Dyrcona has leftover chow mein.
12:28 Stareagle Jimmy Johns rules
12:29 Dyrcona Been a while since I had Jimmy John's. There aren't any around where I live.
12:35 Stareagle Prefer them to Subways
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13:07 rjackson_isl quick question (panicking library) if a shelving location gets set from holdable = 'f' to holdable = 't' do the circ desks need to log out and back in again to refresh cache on shelving locations?
13:08 rjackson_isl my foggy memory wants to say yes...
13:09 jeff no reason i can think of that you'd need to do that. you're likely going to have a different issue with regard to opportunistic hold capture, though.
13:10 jeff i'm fairly certain (you could check) that holds that last targeted while the shelving location was holdable = false will not consider copies in that location until the next time the holds retarget.
13:10 rjackson_isl 24 hour wait then for the overnight processing to rebuild a table?
13:11 rjackson_isl jeff++ - hopefully the sun will shine tomorrow!
13:12 jeff depending on your environment, the retarget local holds + retarget all statuses might help you through that period, though I'm pretty sure it wouldn't retarget holds at other pickup locations.
13:12 jeff you also likely wouldn't want to leave both of those on, unless you normally do.
13:12 Dyrcona The new hold targeter has some options that should be able to help with that sort of situation, but I've never messed with most of the options.
13:13 rjackson_isl yeah - I think we have run into the slowness as a result of some sights fidelling with those settings
13:13 rjackson_isl thanks all - think it is time for a direct call...
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13:41 Dyrcona jamesrf: Your patches stand a better chance of ending up in Evergreen if you a) commit to our current working repository (https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​working/Evergreen.git;a=summary), and b) add a signed-off-by line (Signed-off-by: Your Name <you@host.tld>).
13:41 Dyrcona B is more important than A.
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14:01 rjackson_isl well the finger points back to myself... had been converting branches to transit their dvds for a while now and this is the first time that the library had the holdable false set at the item level (for most of the holdings)
14:02 rjackson_isl thanks for the help though!
14:11 Dyrcona rjackson_isl: Holds always get fixed by the targeter in a day or two, so I wouldn't sweat it much.
14:12 rjackson_isl yeah but in this case with my mistake they would never have been holdable :(
14:14 rjackson_isl the kicker was I checked the flag initially but on one of the items that had it set to true already
14:14 rjackson_isl dazed and confused...
14:16 Dyrcona :)
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14:57 miker Dyrcona++ # testing variant fixes -- and with lots of holds on the list, that 1ms could be important (depending on the overall plan for the whole big query)
15:01 Dyrcona It might add up to a whole second.... :)
15:02 Dyrcona Faster is better if it is still correct.
15:02 Dyrcona miker++ # For mentioning it.
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17:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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21:39 jeff i have been reunited with my carry-on.
21:39 jeff (and there was much rejoicing) \o/
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