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05:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:35 miker gsams: we didn't do that because null is as good as false in most cases, and it would have meant rewrite the whole circulation table at upgrade (in currently supported versions of postgres)
08:35 miker meant a*
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08:39 miker gsams: and we generally try not to ever fill in new fields on historical data where there wasn't functionality to produce the data before, if that makes sense
08:53 mmorgan Speaking of auto renewal, I notice that the auto_renewal_remaining field can have a value > 0 even when renewal_remaining <= 0.
08:54 mmorgan Doesn't seem to allow renewals inappropriately, but I'm just wondering if that may cause confusion when viewing a circulation.
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10:13 gsams miker++ #makes sense
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10:18 miker mmorgan: renewal_remaining is the hard limit. we don't decrement auto_renewal_remaining on a non-auto renew because it's not an auto-renewal (we're preserving state information).  While it doesn't exist yet, that leaves open the option for a YAOUS that allows use of all auto-renewals even if non-autos is 0 (for instance to be able to say, "only auto-renewals are allowed")
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10:27 gsams That's pretty nice, I hadn't thought about it becoming it's own factor when we were putting it to words, only how it would work within the current system.
10:28 gsams Nice to know the possibility is there.
10:31 Dyrcona While I appreciate the flexibility, I can see that leading to a lot of confusion on the part of front line staff.
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12:47 Dyrcona Bmagic: I'm curious. Were you able to confirm that you max fines issue from the other day really is bug 1786312
12:47 pinesol Launchpad bug 1786312 in Evergreen "Extending circ due date can result in exceeding max fines" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786312
12:48 Bmagic yeah, I believe my issue was that issue
12:50 Dyrcona Mind confirming the bug?
12:56 Bmagic oh! sure
13:12 Dyrcona Bmagic++
13:12 Bmagic Dyrcona++ # bug hunting
13:19 Dyrcona Bmagic: Do I remember correctly that you recently asked about sending HTML emails with a/t notices?
13:26 csharp I recently asked about it
13:26 csharp we were having a vendor presentation with slick email templates and I was wondering how feasible that is within EG - terran is looking into it
13:27 Dyrcona OK. It might become easier in the future. I'm looking into using Email::Stuffer for bug 1801163
13:27 pinesol Launchpad bug 1801163 in Evergreen "SendEmail A/T reactor broken for recent version of Encode::MIME::Header" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801163 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
13:28 Dyrcona Not sure, yet, how you'd get both HTML and plain text parts out of the reactor.
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13:54 nfBurton In response to the HTML emails. I did get them working and am currently testing (successfully) HTML emails for new patrons. Likely to be expanded after.
13:54 Bmagic Dyrcona: We've got the plain and html working with the patch
13:55 Dyrcona "The patch..." Which patch?
13:55 Bmagic bug 1532236
13:55 pinesol Launchpad bug 1532236 in Evergreen "Evergreen should allow for HTML formatted action trigger emails" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532236
13:56 nfBurton I can confirm the same patch worked for me on 3.1.5
13:57 Bmagic The sample AT template on the bug shows how to do it
13:59 Dyrcona Yes. That looks straightforward enough. We'll have to see if it still works with Email::Stuffer.
14:06 csharp jeffdavis: testing privacy waiver branch - when I "purge" the patron via the UI, the actor.usr_privacy_waiver rows are retained - is that what you intended?
14:06 csharp I realized that they would be deleted with an actual row deletion via cascade
14:06 csharp s/realized/realize/
14:08 * csharp thinks we should add a DELETE to actor.usr_purge_data to handle it
14:08 jeffdavis csharp: that's an oversight, the purge function should clear out that data
14:08 csharp and I'm happy to do that
14:08 jeffdavis yeah, that :)
14:09 csharp do you want to do it?
14:09 jeffdavis sure, will do
14:09 csharp awesome
14:09 csharp feature works great otherwise - tested from the staff and opac view
14:09 csharp once we clear the policy hurdle (possibly in May) we'll probably implement it
14:10 csharp it's a commonsense thing to be able to do with the software
14:10 jeffdavis thanks for testing!
14:13 Dyrcona Y'know, someone from CW MARS should open another bug on actor.user_delete, because the alternate names are not touched by that function, either.
14:14 csharp jeffdavis: happy to do it
14:20 * Dyrcona curses Lp and the infamous "Timeout Error."
14:30 Dyrcona Hmm... Installed Jessie from the netinst image and got a GUI.
14:30 Dyrcona Not exactly what I wanted.
14:33 csharp heh
14:33 csharp @blame Jessie
14:33 pinesol csharp: I come to bury Jessie, not to praise them.
14:34 Dyrcona Maybe I missed something in the installer options?
14:34 csharp I haven't installed Debian in a while, but I have a faint memory of having to opt out of the desktop at the tasksel step
14:40 jeffdavis csharp: I've pushed a commit to address the purge user data issue
14:43 Dyrcona Yeah. First option at the top. Guess I missed it.
14:52 csharp jeffdavis: rock on - I'll give it one last lookover and signoff/commit
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16:55 csharp relevant: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHu​mor/comments/ao4opn/10yearchallenge/
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17:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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17:33 csharp calling 1144, 1145, & 1146
17:34 berick yeehaw
17:41 csharp jeffdavis++
17:42 pinesol [evergreen|Jeff Davis] LP#1715767: Allow others to use my account (privacy waiver) - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c7727d4>
17:42 pinesol [evergreen|Jeff Davis] LP#1715767: remove privacy waiver entries when referenced actor.usr rows are deleted - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=be0e7e2>
17:42 pinesol [evergreen|Jeff Davis] LP#1715767: remove privacy waiver entries when purging user data - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c016af3>
17:42 pinesol [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1715767 - stamping upgrade scripts - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6ae2427>
17:44 csharp I guess the 10-year challenge meme is timely for our community since our first conference was in 2009 :-)
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18:56 jeffdavis csharp++ # thanks for testing and commit!
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