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12:03 rsulejmani berick: I get an error when installing evergreen with the ansible installer http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10000
12:15 berick rsulejmani: hm.  ubuntu 16.04?
12:17 rsulejmani berick: ubuntu 18.04
12:18 berick there is no ubuntu-18.04 branch yet
12:18 rsulejmani ok
12:19 Dyrcona rsulejmani: Yesterday you asked about running and Evergreen and Apache on the same server. Did you mean running Evergreen and some other applications via Apache on the same server?
12:21 rsulejmani Dyrcona: Yes
12:22 Dyrcona The answer is that it depends on what the other applications are doing. You may also need to modify the configuration of Apache quite a bit. I've never actually tried it beyond adding small applications to Evergreen itself.
12:23 Dyrcona You know about virtual host configuration in Apache?
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14:16 berick Dyrcona++ # reminder
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14:40 JBoyer Dyrcona++
14:51 Dyrcona Upgrading the O/S release on a FreeBSD VM while listening to '80s music seems like a perfect combination.
14:53 * Dyrcona hopes the WiFi holds out. :)
15:00 Dyrcona Hmm. Twenty-five open bugs with both the pullrequest and signedoff tags. Something to bring up tomorrow?
15:07 * csharp has been planning to get to some of those
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15:10 Dyrcona Well, I'm testing an easy one right now.
15:11 Dyrcona Running 2 VMs on the laptop. Who would have dreamed of that a few years ago?
15:21 JBoyer If you'd like to re-live those days you could try running one inside the other, heh.
15:23 bshum JBoyer: I'm not entirely sure it would allow you to do that.  I know some hypervisors dont' like it when the guests try to use the same procs that are already being used by the host
15:23 bshum Or at least, it didn't let me when I tried it years ago... maybe the newer stuff is "better" now?
15:24 JBoyer bshum, oh, you don't get to use the nice hardware bits on the inside. That's what brings back that authentic feeling to running a VM on a laptop. Frames per second becomes seconds per frame, etc. :)
15:24 Dyrcona heh.
15:25 Dyrcona The branch needs a release note, but I'll write it then push it.
15:26 * JBoyer needs to work on his LP saved search game to better help with testing, etc.
15:38 * Dyrcona scratches his head at some git weirdness
15:39 Dyrcona Oh! Duh!
15:40 Dyrcona I forgot to rebase --continue. :)
15:44 pinesol [evergreen|Rogan Hamby] Lp 1805897: Add Item Status to the Holdings of marc_export.in - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=20a7f91>
15:44 pinesol [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] Lp 1805897: Add Release Note - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4340597>
15:46 Dyrcona @weather
15:46 pinesol Dyrcona: Methuen, MA :: Clear :: 61F/16C | Tuesday: Mainly clear. Lows overnight in the mid 20s. Tuesday Night: Mainly clear skies. Low near 25F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph.
15:46 Dyrcona That's just...crazy.
15:47 berick yeah, 70's here.  got the windows open.
15:48 Dyrcona @weather wnzw
15:48 pinesol Dyrcona: Error: I could not find a valid location for: wnzw
15:48 Dyrcona @weather NZWN
15:48 pinesol Dyrcona: Wellington International, New Zealand :: Light Rain :: 57F/14C | Wednesday: Windy. Showers this morning with clearing during the afternoon hours. High 63F. Winds SSE at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 50%. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy. Windy this evening. Low 56F. Winds SE at 20 to 30 mph.
15:49 Dyrcona Yeah, and it's summer there....
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17:16 Bmagic Anyone have an idea why a circulation would accumulate fines passed the max_fine threshold? action.circulation shows max of 10.50 but the bills have climbed up to 16.50 and are still climbing. No payments have been made and no voids.
17:18 Bmagic Maybe a renewal circ with fines on the parent?
17:31 jihpringle Bmagic: might be worth checking the setting "Cap Max Fine at Item Price" just to rule it out
17:32 Bmagic Would the action.circulation.max_fine be the end all be all?
17:33 Bmagic That setting is set to false for this library
17:35 Dyrcona Bmagic: It should cap at max fines. What's the fine amount? There was a bug where fines would go over max fines if the fine rate added up to more, like a max fines of $3.00 and a fine rate of $2.00/day, it would got to $4.00 at least.
17:37 jihpringle I think that bug was resolved by the library setting "Truncate fines to max fine amount"
17:39 berick Bmagic: multiple circs via renewal can certainly exceed max fines across the combined set
17:39 Bmagic the circulation has a max_fine set to 10.05 and it's accumulated 16.50 so far
17:40 Bmagic 16.50 at .50 per day, and the xact ID is the same for all $16.50 worth
17:40 * berick nods
17:40 Bmagic the first circulation has $5.00 worth of fines with a different xact
17:43 Bmagic we are chalking it up to a fluke... it is strange though
17:44 berick Bmagic: all of the 16.50 are 0.50 entries?  no manual billings?
17:44 Bmagic right
17:44 Bmagic btype=1 note="System Generated Overdue Fine"
17:50 Dyrcona I know this is obvious, but the max fine rule actually shows up on the action.circulation row?
17:51 Bmagic yep
17:51 Bmagic that's what makes it so straightforward. The action.circulation plainly shows a max_fine of 10.05
17:51 Dyrcona 10.05? not 10.50?
17:53 Dyrcona What is  stop_fines set to?
17:54 Bmagic null
17:55 Bmagic and yes, 10.05
17:57 Dyrcona Does the due date look correct, i.e. not monkeyed with? bug 1786312
17:57 pinesol Launchpad bug 1786312 in Evergreen "Extending circ due date can result in exceeding max fines" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786312
17:59 Dyrcona Why 10.05 and not 10.00? What's the purpose of the extra five cents?
18:00 Bmagic I think to allow it to go over 10 but not 11
18:00 Bmagic the due_date is "2019-01-11 23:59:59-06"
18:00 Bmagic looks normal to me
18:01 berick does it match the xact_start + duration ?
18:01 Bmagic berick: no!
18:01 Dyrcona That's the bug.
18:01 berick Dyrcona++
18:02 Bmagic That calculation comes to "2018-12-25 16:06:37-06"
18:02 Bmagic it's the bug above?
18:02 Dyrcona Yeah, sounds like it.
18:03 Bmagic sweet! Wow, didn't think we would have arrived at a conclusion
18:03 Bmagic Dyrcona++
18:03 Dyrcona Also looks like someone missed a closed day.
18:03 Bmagic berick++
18:03 berick assuming the branch wasn't closed from 12/25 -> 01/11
18:03 Bmagic so, the theory is that the due_date was manually entered during renewal somehow?
18:04 Dyrcona The bug indicates that fines have to start accruing and then the due date is altered.
18:04 berick checked out, was overdue for a while, staff extended the due date (no renewal), more fines accrue after 2nd due date exceeded
18:04 Dyrcona The dates on the billing entries would help you figure that out.
18:05 Dyrcona If there's an obvious gap.
18:05 Bmagic the dates are sequential but there is a weekend missing between 1-19 and 1-22
18:06 Dyrcona Are there fines for other weekends?
18:06 Bmagic but that's the only weekend. Not sure what's special about that weekend
18:06 Bmagic yeah, there are... perhaps that was the day it was extended by the staff manually...
18:07 berick open-ils.circ.circulation.due_date.update is the API
18:08 berick if you wanna get your grep on
18:08 Bmagic :)
18:09 Bmagic I'm going to have to go right this moment. I'll have to get my grep on tomorrow morning
18:10 Dyrcona You might want to total the fines before and after those dates.
18:10 Dyrcona Then, you can estimate where it should stop.
18:10 Dyrcona Good luck!
18:10 Dyrcona berick++
18:11 * Dyrcona signs out, too.
18:11 Bmagic lata!
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