08:41 Dyrcona joined #evergreen 08:43 mmorgan joined #evergreen 08:57 lsach joined #evergreen 09:03 jvwoolf joined #evergreen 09:39 Dyrcona Twenty-three attendees signed up for the hack-a-way. I think that's a record. 09:50 JBoyer People must have heard the infinite energy center has really good coffee, heh. 09:51 Dyrcona :) 10:30 Bmagic good coffee, ha! 10:31 Bmagic Has anyone dealt with the MARC editor throwing "DATABASE_UPDATE_FAILED" what seems like random. Anything in particular I should be looking for? Perhaps the MARC isn't sound? EG 3.1 XUL 10:34 JBoyer usually it's that the marc has a problem but it's hard to point to anything in particular. Have any failing examples you can look at? 10:36 Bmagic Yeah, but of course, the MARC is in the database just fine. It's probably the stuff in the interface that I need to capture 10:36 mmorgan Bmagic: I have seen that when a staff user was editing a MARC record and made an error with a MARC tag. Could usually find the exact issue in the logs 10:37 Bmagic ok great. I'm parsing logs now. I was sort of thinking that was the direction 10:40 Christineb joined #evergreen 10:48 JBoyer And depending on what kind of postgres logs you keep you may be able to pull the edited marc out of there. 10:49 JBoyer I suspect the specific problem you'll find is something about invalid marc in the 901 maintainer trigger, bur I don't recall if it gives you the specific failure or not. 11:03 khuckins joined #evergreen 11:28 jwoodard joined #evergreen 11:40 bos20k joined #evergreen 11:53 nfBurton joined #evergreen 11:55 yboston joined #evergreen 12:03 jihpringle joined #evergreen 12:43 bdljohn1 joined #evergreen 12:50 beanjammin joined #evergreen 13:26 jvwoolf joined #evergreen 13:27 khuckins joined #evergreen 13:35 khuckins joined #evergreen 13:35 sandbergja joined #evergreen 13:42 JBoyer Cool, cool. So today is the second time this week that we've heard from libraries where offline mode just won't do the thing. 14:12 JBoyer Everything appears to work, but the console starts off with a lovely "UpUp is not defined..." and you can't save transactions because there's nothing in the working location box. 14:13 JBoyer Which is confusing to me, because my understanding is that UpUp has to be working to see the interface at all, so... 14:16 Dyrcona JBoyer: Tell them to use the XUL offline interface. It still works AFAIK. 14:18 JBoyer They did, but they tried the web one first. 14:18 JBoyer Come Nov 17 that work around isn 14:18 JBoyer t around to work anymore. 14:19 JBoyer (And we have an increasing number of systems that have never had the xul client installed.) 14:19 Dyrcona It can be if you build the XUL client or leave the old XUL files in place. 14:20 JBoyer We'd like to avoid giving them a reason to never move on to the new thing. (so long as the xul client can login some places will never touch the web client. :/ ) 14:21 JBoyer I'm not in a panic to figure it out, the library today is back online anyway, I just wondered if anyone else has seen this. 14:21 Dyrcona Understood. 14:21 Dyrcona I've seen the offline mode fail a number of times, but don't recall that message about UpUp. 14:22 JBoyer Worse, if you open the staff client, go somewhere else, pull the cable and then go back it works fine. If you close the browser completely, cut the cable, and go back it's DOA. That's the most common scenario... 14:22 Dyrcona I've also never seen it (personally) in production, nor do I know of any reports of it failing in production here. 14:22 Dyrcona Yes, that I have seen every single time. 14:22 Dyrcona If it starts unable to connect, it won't come up. 14:25 JBoyer That helps. The thing I was most worried about was that it was something local. 14:25 khuckins joined #evergreen 14:25 JBoyer or difficult to reproduce, etc. 14:57 jvwoolf joined #evergreen 15:00 khuckins joined #evergreen 15:03 yboston joined #evergreen 15:45 berick someone remind me what the copy_active flag is for on copy_status?  I see refs to it in the rank_copy SQL (for catalog display?) but that's about it.  feel like I'm missing something... 15:46 berick oh right active_date, which is checked for age protect 15:46 Dyrcona It means that copy is active for circulation, etc. It's main use is setting the active date on the copy itself. 15:47 Dyrcona :) 16:47 yboston joined #evergreen 16:56 pinesol [evergreen|Remington Steed] Docs: Fix minor release notes formatting bug - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7dd1ec8> 16:56 mmorgan Happy Halloween #evergreen! 16:57 mmorgan left #evergreen 17:22 jvwoolf joined #evergreen 19:03 beanjammin joined #evergreen 20:41 beanjammin joined #evergreen 20:59 jasong joined #evergreen