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11:16 mmorgan We're seeing instances of renewal transactions milliseconds apart. I suspect they're from double clicks by patrons and double scans on the staff side. I didn't see a Launchpad bug, and I'm wondering if I'm missing a setting or config somewhere that would build in a cushion to not allow a renewal if it's too soon after the previous one.
11:17 JBoyer I know there's some interest in not adding a lot of JS to the OPAC yet but if the first line of the click handler disabled the button/form a lot of duplicate stuff could be avoided. (we've seen multiple holds placed less than a second apart here, for instance.)
11:18 JBoyer Too many people just have in their heads you double click everything all the time.
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11:28 mmorgan JBoyer: Yes, we see double-click issues in other places, too. But there's also the barcode double scan issue, that can act the same way.
11:28 JBoyer Ah, yes.
11:31 Dyrcona mmorgan: bug 1787274
11:31 pinesol Launchpad bug 1787274 in Evergreen 3.1 "Web Client: Transits Don't Always Clear" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787274
11:32 Dyrcona I know it sounds off topic, but read it. The fix involved changes to prevent duplicate checkins from happening when people double click, etc.
11:32 mmorgan Dyrcona: Thanks, I'll read through.
11:33 mmorgan But I also have a memory that it might be possible to set up an interval somewhere such that a renewal would not be allowed too soon after the previous checkout.
11:33 mmorgan Could've been a dream. I didn't find anything when I searched.
11:34 berick mmorgan: if the 2 transactions happen practically simultaneously, the setting won't have any effect
11:34 JBoyer Oh, there's an OUS that determines when trying to check an item out to the user that already has it out is considered a renewal vs a failure, maybe you're thinking of that?
11:34 Dyrcona Ye olde race condition.
11:35 berick won't hurt to set it, of course, but not a guarantee of a fix
11:35 mmorgan JBoyer: I did see that ou setting, but maybe I misread it. Thought it controlled whether the transaction would be a renew or new checkout.
11:36 Dyrcona Evergreen isn't the only web app that suffers from double clicks, or someone dropping something on the keyboard, either. There are not a lot of good solutions out there, other than "use a proxy and drop identical requests."
11:37 JBoyer That's all it does, yes. But I wondered if that might have been what gave you the idea since if memory serves the name is easy to mis-read. I could also be throwing darts in the dark, as well. :)
11:38 JBoyer Q. What's worse A. Asyncrhony! than multi-threading?
11:38 Dyrcona :)
11:38 JBoyer Worse is a poor choice of word, even for a joke. Harder to get right is 100% spot-on though.
11:39 * Dyrcona pages C. G. Jung, and if he's not around, Gordon Sumner.... :)
11:40 Dyrcona Nah, I think worse is the correct term. :)
11:40 mmorgan I will definitely give that ou setting a test and have a look at lp 1787274
11:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 1787274 in Evergreen 3.1 "Web Client: Transits Don't Always Clear" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787274
11:41 berick mmorgan: if you can confirm the source, it should be fix-able w/ code.  if this is a new issue, webstaff seems like a likely candidate
11:41 berick but you can tell from the circs themselves or the logs
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11:41 berick opac_renewal / desk_renewal
11:41 * Dyrcona wonders about the status of bug 1505772 in light of the other.
11:41 pinesol Launchpad bug 1505772 in Evergreen "multiple active transits can be found in database" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505772
11:42 * Dyrcona also searches for the bug about checkin getting slow because things pile up in the list.
11:42 mmorgan We're not on the web client yet, so it's not specifically a web client issue.
11:42 Dyrcona No, it's not... We saw things get much worse with the web client, though.
11:43 berick mmorgan: ah, ok
11:44 Dyrcona IIRC, there are backend changes in the branch to prevent double checkins. Not sure if that covers renewals, too.
11:44 Dyrcona berick should know, if he remembers. :)
11:44 mmorgan In a small sampling for one library's items from this month to date, there were five opac renewals and one desk renewal
11:44 berick bug 1787274 prevents duplicate active transits on the backend
11:45 pinesol Launchpad bug 1787274 in Evergreen 3.1 "Web Client: Transits Don't Always Clear" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787274
11:45 berick and prevents double-scan / too-quick checkins in the client
11:45 berick by tracking barcodes in-flight
11:47 * mmorgan wouldn't think unique constraint triggers would work for circ transactions in the same way as transits, but would think tracking barcodes in flight would.
11:47 berick mmorgan: yeah, what JBoyer said (disable the action in the client) is likely fix for tpac
11:48 * mmorgan will open a launchpad bug
11:49 mmorgan JBoyer++ Dyrcona++ berick++
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13:47 kmlussier Oops. I forgot there was an EOB meeting today.
13:48 * kmlussier quickly writes up an Outreach report.
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14:00 jvwoolf kmlussier++
14:00 terran miker: Are you here?
14:01 collum kmlussier++
14:01 rgagnon kmlussier++
14:02 miker I am now
14:02 miker sorry folks, carpool line
14:02 miker I'll begin now
14:02 miker #startmeeting 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18
14:02 pinesol Meeting started Thu Oct 18 14:02:41 2018 US/Eastern.  The chair is miker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:02 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:02 Topic for #evergreen is now  (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:02 pinesol The meeting name has been set to '2018_10_18___eob_meeting____https​___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php​_id_governance_minutes_2018_10_18'
14:02 miker #topic Introductions -- announce yourself, please
14:02 Topic for #evergreen is now Introductions -- announce yourself, please (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:02 miker #info miker = Mike Rylander, EOLI
14:03 terran #info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES
14:03 JBoyer #info JBoyer is Jason Boyer, IN State Library
14:03 agoben agoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana
14:03 rgagnon #info rgagnon is Ron Gagnon, NOBLE
14:03 collum #info collum is Garry Collum, KCPL
14:03 jvwoolf #info jvwoolf is Jessica Woolford, Bibliomation
14:03 sthomas #infro sthomas is Scott Thomas, PaILS
14:03 agoben #info agoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana
14:03 miker I believe we may not get Holly...
14:04 miker so, we'll move on to
14:04 miker #topic Approval or Correction of Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2018/evergreen.2018-09-20-14.02.html
14:04 Topic for #evergreen is now Approval or Correction of Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2018/evergreen.2018-09-20-14.02.html (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:04 miker any corrections/additions?
14:04 miker or general discussion?
14:05 miker hearing nothing, let us vote
14:05 miker #startvote Approve 2018-09-20 meeting minutes? yes, no
14:05 pinesol Begin voting on: Approve 2018-09-20 meeting minutes? Valid vote options are yes, no.
14:05 pinesol Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:05 rgagnon #vote Yes
14:05 miker #vote yes
14:05 agoben #vote yes
14:05 collum #vote yes
14:05 JBoyer #vote yes
14:05 sthomas #vote yes
14:05 jvwoolf #vote yes
14:05 terran #vote yes
14:05 miker #endvote
14:05 pinesol Voted on "Approve 2018-09-20 meeting minutes?" Results are
14:05 pinesol yes (8): rgagnon, JBoyer, agoben, miker, collum, sthomas, terran, jvwoolf
14:06 miker huzzah! we're off to a brisk start
14:06 miker On to officer reports
14:06 miker #topic Chair report
14:06 Topic for #evergreen is now Chair report (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:06 miker As usual, nothing here that won't be discussed later.
14:06 miker #topic Financial report
14:06 Topic for #evergreen is now Financial report (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:06 miker #info No known changes, still waiting on final ledger reconciliation.
14:07 miker and thank you gmcharlt for the update
14:07 JBoyer gmcharlt++
14:07 miker moving on to
14:07 miker #topic SFC Update
14:07 Topic for #evergreen is now SFC Update (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:08 miker #info We had a call with Karen from SFC (Amy, Scott, Mike), the outcome of which was that they are going to go directly to the MOBIUS law firm for details on the services rendered, and they now have the agreement between the Evergreen corporate board (same as EOB) and MOBIUS for creation and Form 1023 services.
14:08 terran That's great news.
14:08 miker apparently they did not have that previously
14:08 terran Does the SFC have any remaining outstanding questions/problems with how we are proceeding?
14:09 miker they have questions, or they believe they will have questions
14:09 terran I thought that the SFC and MOBIUS had developed an agreement shortly after the last EG conference.
14:09 miker they don't have specific issues to raise, other than they want more information from us and sooner
14:10 miker but we may hear more specific requests or concerns after they digest the formation/legal agreement more
14:10 sthomas They don't like the fact that they were not aware of our agreement with MOBIUS for legal services.
14:10 miker as for the conference, there seems to be a little conflation between MOBIUS role in that and the separate corporate legal service agreement
14:11 terran I understand they don't like it, but was it actually in violation of anything?
14:11 sthomas She didn't come right out and say, but there is a question as to whether we can even enter into such an agreement.
14:12 sthomas Without SFC approving.
14:12 terran Is this a service that the SFC should have been doing for us?
14:12 miker well, we can, as a separate entity (the corporate board) but, they want all i's dotted and t's crossed before transferring to the new org
14:13 terran Do we know where the ball was dropped with that initial agreement between MOBIUS and the SFC earlier in the year?
14:13 miker we can't bind SFC to any agreement, but it would have been preferable for payment, etc, of services if they'd been involved
14:13 miker s/but/so/
14:14 miker terran: we were acting as a group outside SFC, which isn't improper, but then putting on our EOB hats and asking for payment of services caught them completely by surprise
14:15 miker EOB should have involved them at the time of the MOBIUS/pre-corporate agreement. not necessarily as a party, but as an advisor at least
14:15 terran So the air is now cleared and we can move forward?
14:16 terran Or are they going to continue pushing back against paying the invoices?
14:16 miker SFC is committed to working around the kinks, so, yes, I believe the air is now as clear as it can be made
14:16 JBoyer Evergreen-shaped air fresheners for everyone.
14:16 miker but it may be more time consuming than it would have been if they'd been involved
14:17 terran And is the SFC going to be handling the registrations / vendor fees / etc. for the 2019 conference?
14:17 sthomas Yes. We made it very clear to them that we need the registration site up and the exhibitors flyer approved.
14:17 miker we have asked them to do that, and they've agreed. they want to get their heads around the new information they have before opening the site to sthomas, currently
14:18 miker IMO the flyer and site are the immediate term goals with SFC, immediately followed by their review of our 1023
14:19 sthomas Yes plus MOBIUS needs to be paid.
14:19 terran Okay. Hopefully they are expedient with the sponsorship flyer and site, as we really need to start contacting potential vendors and sponsors soon.
14:19 miker sthomas: hopefully their direct contact will facilitate that...
14:20 miker terran: yes, the next step as planned was for afterl to reach out to them on IRC, as a reminder
14:20 miker however
14:20 miker Amy is on vacation, so, sthomas or I will likely need to do that rather than wait for her return
14:21 jvwoolf afterl is out until 10/29
14:21 miker we can coordinate that in email, sthomas, if you're agreeable
14:21 sthomas I vote for miker to do it since I am pretty incompetent on IRC.
14:21 miker jvwoolf: thanks for the detail, that's helpful
14:22 miker sthomas: ha! ok, I will put it on my list. for everyone, the channel is called #conservancy and is on the freenode network. it's an open channel, anyone can join
14:22 terran miker++ sthomas++ afterl++ for getting all of the miscommunication straightened out!
14:23 collum Indeed miker++ sthomas++ afterl++
14:23 rgagnon miker++ sthomas++ afterl++
14:23 agoben here, here! miker++ sthomas++ afterl++
14:23 miker sthomas: anything else re SFC for the moment?
14:23 jvwoolf miker++ sthomas++ afterl++
14:23 miker did I leave anything out?
14:23 terran Does the SFC need/want to be in on the lawyer interviews?
14:23 sthomas I think you got it all.
14:24 miker terran: I am happy to ask them
14:24 * miker goes looking for the doodle poll
14:24 JBoyer May as well see now, lest we run into another invoice-type situation.
14:25 sthomas Really good point.
14:25 miker looks like next Weds/Thurs and the following Weds, correct?
14:25 terran jvwoolf: have any of them confirmed the call times?
14:25 jvwoolf miker: That's correct
14:26 jvwoolf terran: Not yet. I haven't heard from the second firm at all.
14:26 miker #action miker will ask about the sponsor flyer in #conservancy and ask if SFC would like to send a rep to the lawyer interview calls
14:26 terran jvwoolf++ for all the time and effort you have put into this!
14:27 JBoyer jvwoolf++ # indeed
14:27 miker jvwoolf++ # indeed
14:27 agoben jvwoolf++
14:27 rgagnon jvwoolf++
14:27 collum jvwoolf++
14:27 sthomas jwoolf++
14:27 miker (and, we can now prob skip a later bullet :) )
14:27 terran #info Possible Evergreen lawyer interviews: October 24 at 2pm, October 25 at 2pm, October 31 at 3pm (all EST)
14:27 terran (did I do that right?)
14:28 miker terran: yes, but I think I have to do it, which I will now do
14:28 terran Oh :D
14:28 miker #info Possible Evergreen lawyer interviews: October 24 at 2pm, October 25 at 2pm, October 31 at 3pm (all EST)
14:28 kmlussier miker: Anyone can do an #info command.
14:28 agoben EST or EDT?
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14:28 JBoyer Otherwise our intros are for naught.
14:28 jvwoolf EST
14:28 kmlussier JBoyer: Good point!
14:28 miker kmlussier: ah! perfect... well, now we REALLY know when it may happen
14:29 jvwoolf Oh, I mean EDT
14:29 terran I always forget there is a difference
14:29 miker #info EDIT for timezone: Possible Evergreen lawyer interviews: October 24 at 2pm, October 25 at 2pm, October 31 at 3pm (all EDT)
14:30 miker I'm fine just finishing the "lawyer interview update" now -- we're most of the way through that, I assume
14:30 jvwoolf Just another FYI on that...
14:30 miker jvwoolf: anything else to note?
14:30 jvwoolf I didn't get a chance to contact the firm the other lawyer recommended this morning, but I'll do that after the meeting.
14:31 miker jvwoolf: thanks muchly!
14:31 miker ok, moving on
14:32 miker #topic Release manager (Bill Erickson)
14:32 Topic for #evergreen is now Release manager (Bill Erickson) (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:32 miker berick: updates/requests/etc to share? How is "retirement" to Release Maintainer treating you?
14:33 miker I'll consider that "retirement is great!"
14:33 miker On to committees
14:33 miker #topic 2019 Conference committee (Scott Thomas)
14:33 Topic for #evergreen is now 2019 Conference committee (Scott Thomas) (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:33 miker Please take it away, sthomas.
14:33 miker anything we haven't yet discussed?
14:33 sthomas Just to recap... Sponsorship flyer is ready and we stand ready to start contacting exhibitors. Awaiting approval from SFC then the EOB will need to approve. We are also waiting for SFC to give us access to the registration site so we can start customizing it.
14:34 agoben I can't access the posted packet link.  Was there a separate invite sent out to view?
14:34 rgagnon sthomas: Same here
14:34 terran Hrrm... let me check the sharing
14:35 terran Try this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NyE-txZU​5f744xsa2M1uwylOSPzxtWIm/view?usp=sharing
14:35 miker IMO, the EOB can evaluate it in parallel with SFC. hopefully the latter will be done soon (after ping from me)
14:35 agoben ty!
14:35 rgagnon Much better!
14:35 berick sorry, on conf. call
14:35 miker berick: would you like us to go back after this? do you have updates?
14:36 terran Most things are the same (on the flyer) as last year, but we dropped the tote and added transportation
14:36 berick miker: no, i'll be afk for a bit
14:36 miker terran: thanks. (all) shall we follow up with that in email?
14:37 jvwoolf terran: Was that sent to the EOB list? I don't remember seeing the email.
14:37 miker assuming so, terran, would you mind sending that to evergreen@sfconservancy.org for discussion?
14:37 terran The layout is also wonky when previewing online. Better if downloaded. Yes, will do.
14:37 jvwoolf terran: Nevermind, found it.
14:37 miker terran: thanks!
14:38 miker berick: gotcha, np, and thanks for maintaining
14:38 miker ok! on to...
14:38 miker #topic Outreach committee (Kathy Lussier)
14:38 Topic for #evergreen is now Outreach committee (Kathy Lussier) (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:38 miker take it away, kmlussier!
14:38 kmlussier #link http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg​-oversight-board/2018-October/002297.html
14:39 kmlussier I have nothing to add to the written report except a little karma.
14:39 kmlussier abneiman++ # Coordinating the contributor acknowledgement program.
14:39 miker kmlussier++
14:39 miker abneiman++
14:39 kmlussier rhamby++ # Stepping up to take over as outreach chair when I leave.
14:39 terran kmlussier++ rhamby++
14:39 rhamby kmlussier: I think it's more like everyone else tooks a step back at the same time :)
14:39 agoben kmlussier++
14:39 JBoyer kmlussier++ rhamby++ abneiman++
14:39 miker rhamby++
14:39 kmlussier abneiman++ Again. For volunteering to help out with the annual report, which is a big task.
14:39 jvwoolf abneiman++ kmlussier++ rhamby++
14:39 terran And to abneiman++
14:40 rgagnon kmlussier++ rhamby++ abneiman++
14:40 sthomas kmlussier++ rhamby++
14:40 collum kmlussier++ rhamby++ abneiman++
14:41 miker thanks, kmlussier. your leadership will be missed
14:41 * abneiman was startled by IRC notifications suddenly blowing up
14:41 terran Agreed. I feel there will be a dark hole in the force with kmlussier gone.
14:41 abneiman kmlussier++ # you will be very much missed, indeed
14:42 collum Yep
14:42 miker "like a thousand voices crying out, all silenced at once"
14:42 miker kmlussier++
14:42 sthomas kmlussier++
14:42 jvwoolf I was going to say "a thousand herded cats"
14:42 miker jvwoolf++
14:42 miker heh
14:42 miker any other questions for kmlussier re outreach?
14:43 miker we can continue on that thread if necessary, of course
14:43 terran Just a +1 to the new outreach initiatives and the logo
14:44 miker indeed
14:44 miker we'll move on to some remaining old business, which will probably be short
14:44 miker #topic Update on nonprofit status
14:44 Topic for #evergreen is now Update on nonprofit status (Meeting topic: 2018-10-18 - EOB meeting -- https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2018-10-18)
14:44 miker #info As mentioned above, SFC will be reviewing our Form 1023, and I recommend we ask them to do so sooner rather than later, for both timing and transparency reasons.
14:44 miker sthomas: IIRC, you were going to ask for either a Consent Action specifically for adopting the COI policy, or a template we could use for the same, and for the future.
14:45 sthomas SFC has the 1023. Yes, I have the template. I will dig it up and send it later or tomorrow.
14:45 miker perfect, thanks!
14:45 terran sthomas++
14:45 agoben sthomas++
14:45 jvwoolf sthomas++
14:45 miker sthomas++ # double indeed
14:45 rgagnon sthomas++
14:46 JBoyer sthomas++
14:46 collum sthomas++
14:46 miker the 1023 is still the next step, so, I don't think there's much more there. correct, sthomas?
14:46 miker more to discuss, I mean
14:46 sthomas Correct
14:47 miker the last Old Business topic was the lawyer search, but we've covered that pretty well unless anyone has thought of anything else in the last 20 minutes or so
14:48 miker jvwoolf++ # again
14:48 terran jvwoolf++
14:48 agoben jvwoolf++
14:48 collum jvwoolf++
14:48 sthomas jvwoolf++
14:48 rgagnon jvwoolf++
14:48 JBoyer jvwoolf++
14:48 miker does anyone have any New Business to raise, or do we all agree we have enough right now? ;)
14:48 jvwoolf miker: Can I share my news?
14:49 miker jvwoolf: absolutely!
14:49 terran Only if it's good news!
14:49 JBoyer Intrigue!
14:49 jvwoolf I'm expecting a baby in March!
14:49 terran WOOOOO!!!!
14:49 agoben Congratulations!
14:49 rhamby jvwoolf: congrats!
14:49 terran Congratulations!!!
14:49 sthomas Excellent!
14:49 miker Congrats!
14:49 rgagnon Congratulations!!
14:49 kmlussier jvwoolf: Congrats! Very good news indeed!
14:49 collum Congrats!
14:49 rhamby jvwoolfs_baby++
14:49 terran So... I take it you won't be at the EG conference? :D
14:49 JBoyer So, jvwoolf++ literally, then! :D
14:49 miker cloning++
14:50 jvwoolf terran: That's right
14:50 jvwoolf Going to be so weird, first one I've missed in 8 years, I think
14:50 kmlussier jvwoolf: I've seen people bring babies to conferences.
14:50 jvwoolf kmlussier: I would rather not less than one month post partum! :)
14:51 terran LOL
14:51 kmlussier :)
14:51 jvwoolf Somebody should FB live me into a dinner, though!
14:52 jvwoolf Or some other form of video chatting :)
14:52 terran You could still do a presentation via Google Hangouts :D
14:52 rhamby jvwoolf: we can make that happen
14:52 jvwoolf terran: Haha!
14:53 miker new sponsorship op ;)
14:53 terran Have we discussed having an Evergreen Conference Nursery?
14:53 miker as a (truly minor) note: depending on jvwoolf's availability, that actually does have a (small) impact on how we do things for a little while. we may need to have a for-real phone call for votes (that aren't taken in person) and provide meeting notice by mail, IIRC. a small burden with a great reason :)
14:54 miker terran: we have discussed (and had, at one conf, I think?) child care
14:54 miker maybe Vancouver?
14:54 miker I could be making that up. or be thinking of code4lib
14:54 jvwoolf miker: That effort is very much appreciated!
14:54 terran That's a cool idea
14:56 miker everyone should feel free to continue congratulating jvwoolf, but if there's no other new business, I'll free us from our meeting bonds
14:56 miker going once...
14:56 miker thanks everyone!
14:56 terran miker++
14:56 agoben Thanks!
14:56 miker #endmeeting
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16:42 JeeshBoy Hey, I'm kind of a reports newbie and I'm trying to find where, if anywhere, the user settings for hold notices can be found in the reports module
16:43 JeeshBoy As in, the checkboxes indicating how a patron wants to be notified of holds--Phone/Email/SMS
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16:46 Dyrcona JeeshBoy: The reporter label is "User Setting" and that's all I know about that. I am not a reports guru.
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16:59 JeeshBoy Dyrcona: I've managed to run a report listing all user setting names and labels and another report listing all setting id/value pairs for a single user, now I've just got to match the two up and figure out how to filter on what I need
16:59 JeeshBoy All so some poor page can call a list of patrons -with- phone numbers but without emails or SMS settings when they have holds available
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