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IRC log for #evergreen, 2018-10-03

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12:40 kmlussier Is the developers meeting still on for this afternoon?
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12:50 * Dyrcona forgot about it.
12:53 * kmlussier saw it in the calendar.
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12:55 Dyrcona It's on my calendar, too, but I haven't looked for a few days.
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13:35 nfBurton I can't find anything on it which makes me think there is no discussion on it but we are moving to 3M's cloudLibrary in a few months. Is there any talks of integration with Evergreen?
13:40 Dyrcona nfBurton: Not as far as I know.
13:40 nfBurton I didn't think so but figured either way someone here would know. I wanted to integrate Overdrive but cloudLibrary is more lucrative for us.
13:41 jeff nfBurton: does bibliotheca cloudLibrary have an API?
13:42 nfBurton I can't find documentation but they integrate with Bibliocommons so there must be a way
13:42 nfBurton They have a real nice app too
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13:44 nfBurton They also integrated with Polaris in 2012
13:44 nfBurton https://news.3m.com/press-release/compan​y/3m-cloud-library-and-polaris-library-s​ystems-announce-industrys-first-fully-in
14:01 Dyrcona nfBurton: You'll have to contact Biblioteca about documentation, I'm sure. Vendors don't usually make their API documentation public.
14:03 * jeff frowns
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14:13 nfBurton I am working on that. We meet with them tomorrow and are getting sorted with them.
14:23 jeff best of luck!
14:25 nfBurton Thanks!
15:11 Dyrcona dbwells++
15:19 berick dbwells++ # release building
15:21 kmlussier dbwells++
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15:28 Dyrcona Someone updated the logo on Lp. That was quick!
15:29 kmlussier bshum++
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15:30 Dyrcona bshum++
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16:10 jeffdavis I guess the developer meeting isn't happening after all :)
16:11 jeffdavis Maybe we should reschedule for next week?
16:13 Bmagic jeff: I've got a script in production that downloads and syncs the Evergreen bib records with cloudlibrary
16:13 Bmagic using the API
16:15 kmlussier I'm available for a meeting next week.
16:15 Dyrcona Bmagic: I think nfBurton might be interested in that.
16:16 Bmagic I see that they left
16:16 Bmagic I'm not familar with that nick, are you?
16:16 berick next week for dev meeting works for me too
16:16 Dyrcona Yeah, might be back sometime. I've seen the nick before.
16:16 kmlussier Yes, they come in here every once in a while.
16:16 Dyrcona Next week works for me. I should be here barring any catastrophes.
16:17 Bmagic @later tell nfBurton a script to synce cloudlibrary marc records https://github.com/mcoia/mobius_evergreen/blob/ma​ster/overdrive/scenic_bibliotheca_cloudlibrary.pl
16:17 pinesol Bmagic: The operation succeeded.
16:17 gmcharlt +1 for next week
16:20 Dyrcona I'm sure whatever is decided, kmlussier will update the calendar before I do. :)
16:20 kmlussier Dyrcona: No, I've got my hands full with other things.
16:20 kmlussier Too late.
16:21 berick heh, I need to use that trick
16:25 * gmcharlt sneaks in and updates the calendar
16:26 kmlussier gmcharlt++
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16:32 BAMkubasa Trying to do some troubleshooting... we have a user that is a System Admin (perm grp 12) who cannot see the Hold Policy Configurations. We confirmed that perm grp 12 has VIEW_CIRC_MATRIX_MATCHPOINT and ADMIN_HOLD_MATRIX_MATCHPOINT privileges, but he just sees a white screen. Does anyone know if there's another permission that's required to view and edit hold policies?
16:33 BAMkubasa 12 also has the -1 EVERYTHING privilege
16:35 kmlussier BAMkubasa: What depth is the permission set at? It might need to be for the entire consortium.
16:35 bshum Also, what Evergreen version is being used.  Web client vs. old XUL client?
16:36 bshum (just a blank white screen makes me wonder if there's any console errors that might describe the issue more clearly.  Like maybe dojo install is busted or missing somehow)
16:36 bshum (and also whether it's a global issue or just the new user you're trying to get setup)
16:37 Bmagic BAMkubasa: Other accounts can* use it?
16:37 BAMkubasa kmlussier Its at depth 1 (not sure what that translates to)
16:38 kmlussier BAMkubasa: I think it needs to be 0.
16:38 BAMkubasa bshum 2.12.7 in this instance
16:38 Bmagic 0=consortium 1=system (usually)
16:38 BAMkubasa Bmagic, no, not in our testing of a separate account with the same privileges
16:39 BAMkubasa alright, first test then will be to set those privileges at the consortium level and try again
16:41 * kmlussier isn't certain now that she hears another account with the same privileges has no trouble. But it doesn't hurt.
16:41 kmlussier More than eight years working on Evergreen, and I still don't understand how it works.
16:44 bshum Silly nitpick, but BAMkubasa, you said VIEW_CIRC_MATRIX_MATCHPOINT instead of VIEW_HOLD_MATRIX_MATCHPOINT
16:44 bshum Assuming that might be a typo or something?
16:44 bshum In your original description
16:44 khuckins Book Wizardry is my working hypothesis
16:45 kmlussier @sortinghat
16:45 pinesol Hmm... kmlussier... Let me see now... HUFFLEPUFF!
16:46 * kmlussier got excited at the mention of wizardry.
16:47 BAMkubasa kmlussier FTW, yes, setting it to consortium made it work, and bshum, yes VIEW_HOLD_MATRIX_MATCHPOINT
16:48 Bmagic does that give too much privileges?
16:50 kmlussier BAMkubasa: Yay! Which one needed to be set at consortium. The View permission?
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16:50 BAMkubasa Bmagic... hmm, maybe VIEW_HOLD_MATRIX_MATCHPOINT at consortium, ADMIN_CIRC_MATRIX_MATCHPOINT at system
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16:54 bshum I like to hope that the options also only let you make edits or changes for org units you have working location set for.  But not like I've looked lately as a nonprivileged user
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17:24 eeevil BAMkubasa: the reason that worked is that the permission is required to be global. see fm_IDL.xml around line 1938 (master)
17:24 eeevil the global_required="true" attribute means it's needed at the top of the org hierarchy, because no one org unit "owns" those rules
17:25 eeevil (there are at least 5 orgs involved ... who is in charge?)
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18:59 nfburton Bmagic++
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19:06 nfburton @later tell Bmagic Thanks for the link! Can we talk sometime about the implementation? Drop me a line if you can cburton@nflibrary.ca
19:06 pinesol nfburton: The operation succeeded.
19:45 jeff Bmagic: do you have any docs or links to docs on the API that script uses?
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23:13 Bmagic @later tell jeff I developed this back in 2016 and I was looking for the documentation of the API and I found that I signed NDA - so even if I could find the specs, you probably need to get the specs from them directly
23:13 pinesol Bmagic: The operation succeeded.

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