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06:30 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running Evergreen browser client build/test - Expected 6 errors but encountered 7. <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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06:46 csharp more data from 18.04 OpenSRF math/dbmath not starting: https://pastebin.com/bm3iNJNY
06:49 Dyrcona This is a case where encryption is forced on us, but not necessary.
06:49 Dyrcona These communications typically do not leave a single machine, and at best travel over a mostly trusted LAN.
06:50 Dyrcona I love how everyone else always knows better than I do what's good for me. :)
06:51 Dyrcona I might as well clock in now and get the day started....
06:54 csharp :-)
06:54 Dyrcona I know what I described above is not the typical use case for XMPP and ejabberd, but just the same...
06:55 Dyrcona So, I think I'm going to blow up the vm I made yesterday and replace it with one running bionic.
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07:49 Dyrcona You know the bricks are not busy when most of the highest CPU processes in top are systemd and kworkers.
07:54 Dyrcona Always fun rebooting a server from 50 miles away....
07:54 Dyrcona Particularly when it doesn't come back up. :)
07:54 Dyrcona I'm pretty sure this is why this particular server is so far behind the other in updates.
07:56 Dyrcona Well, at least it is a host for development VMs and not one that I was otherwise planning to use today.
07:56 Dyrcona Question is: Do I open a ticket or just email the concerned parties.....
07:56 * Dyrcona stops thinking in channel.
07:57 Dyrcona csharp: You'll know where this is from: "I'm talking to myself, in a monologue..."
07:57 Dyrcona @monologue
07:57 pinesol Dyrcona: Your current monologue is at least 11 lines long.
07:59 Dyrcona Heh. Would be the server named "bashful." :)
08:00 Dyrcona 'Course the other is named "sleepy."
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08:03 miker Dyrcona: re the % fix, for my part, I'm 100% (heh) for pushing the fix in now, and breaking ABI for OpenSRF 3.1
08:04 Dyrcona miker: OK, so should I push the current fix to OpenSRF master and you'll do the ABI breaking fix later, or should I just push the current fix to OpenSRF rel_3_0?
08:05 miker I think push to both
08:05 Dyrcona OK. Will do!
08:05 Dyrcona miker++
08:05 miker Dyrcona++
08:11 pinesol [opensrf|Mike Rylander] LP#1702978: memcache Get methods use key as va_list format - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=6414c25>
08:13 pinesol [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1702978: memcache Remove method used in a variadic way - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=eac43ea>
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09:00 Dyrcona Ubuntu's new installer for 18.0.1 leaves a bit to be desired, but I suppose it's a work in progress.
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09:08 Dyrcona Busted....
09:09 * Dyrcona tries the alternate installer image. It supposedly has all the sources.
09:09 JBoyer This group phone training where no one knows how to mute their phone is off to an amazing start...
09:14 Dyrcona :)
09:16 Dyrcona The "alternate" installer image uses the old, Debian-based installer and not the new one from the live image.
09:20 kmlussier JBoyer: I find the first 10 minutes of any phone conference thing is spent resolving technical and sounds issues. It's the nature of the beast, I guess.
09:21 Dyrcona Had to manually configure the drive to get any swap set up.
09:22 * Dyrcona doesn't like phones.
09:23 JBoyer I'm just so intent on muting everything until I want to say something that it baffles me when people just make a call and start talking to whoever walks by and we all get to hear how they're on a webinar. You don't say, so am I!
09:25 * mmorgan doesn't like phones either.
09:26 rjackson_isl reminds me of a video on the internet of current teens trying to place a call on a rotary phone ;)
09:27 Dyrcona heh. Someone should do a kickstarter for a smart phone with a rotary interface for hipsters. :)
09:28 rhamby_ Dyrcona: I think something like that has been done, at least a bluetooth rotary phone handset
09:28 rjackson_isl and aprty lines - need to bring those back...
09:28 rjackson_isl s/aprty/party
09:29 Dyrcona Yeah, party lines....worse than conference calls.
09:29 rjackson_isl entertainment for bored kids - listening to neighbors conversations
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09:45 bshum Dyrcona: Yeah the busted sources on 18.04.1 irked me greatly when I got my newest VMs setup.
09:46 Dyrcona bshum: They are enabled in the alternate installer: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04​/release/ubuntu-18.04.1-server-amd64.iso
09:46 bshum Dyrcona: Good to know, so it's just the live ISO that's unhappy then
09:46 * bshum downloads that version of the installer
09:47 Dyrcona I found that neither installer configured swap when I chose "Guided use entire disk."
09:47 Dyrcona Previous installers would configure swap.
09:50 bshum o.O
09:51 Dyrcona I manually configured the disk.
09:51 csharp https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/Relea​seNotes#Other_base_system_changes_since_16.04_LTS says that they use a swapfile rather than a partition
09:52 * csharp saw this referenced in the #ubuntu IRC support channel
09:52 Dyrcona csharp: I believe the 18.04 image did create a swap partition.
09:52 csharp hmm
09:53 csharp I have swap on mine
09:53 Dyrcona Well, I missed that note.
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09:53 Dyrcona It is using the partition that I created for swap.
09:54 Dyrcona I'm going to start my bionic vm on my laptop to see what it looks like for swap.
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09:54 Dyrcona It is using a swapfile.
09:54 Dyrcona Guess I missed that detail, too.
09:55 Dyrcona csharp++ # For keeping up with the Ubuntus. :)
09:55 bshum csharp++
09:59 berick fyi, there's a fix to last night's build errors in bug 1775719
09:59 pinesol Launchpad bug 1775719 in Evergreen 3.0 "Multiple IndexedDB connections (via tabs) can result in data inconsistency" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1775719 - Assigned to Kathy Lussier (klussier)
10:00 bos20k Regarding the voicing issue.  I am finally registered and verified at Freenode (had to use different e-mail address). Once we are registered and verified are we supposed to automatically be voiced in #evergreen?
10:00 bshum bos20k: No, it doesn't automatically voice you, but I think you'd just be able to speak without being voiced if you were registered, etc.
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10:00 bshum I could unvoice you to test that :)
10:01 bos20k Sure
10:02 bshum Try it :)
10:02 bos20k Testing, testing, 123...
10:02 bshum Huzzah
10:02 kmlussier Woo hoo!
10:02 bos20k My voice is my password, verify me.
10:02 bshum Best movie ever.
10:02 bos20k Yup.
10:03 bos20k Well, that's good that it works.
10:03 bshum Though admittedly when I was a kid and first saw that movie, I was so confused why my uncle wanted to watch a movie about shoes..
10:03 bos20k lol
10:03 bshum Blockbuster rentals, man what a trip
10:04 * csharp watched that movie over and over
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10:06 kmlussier I've never seen it
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10:10 csharp kmlussier: currently on Prime video if you're a subscriber
10:10 csharp I think it holds up pretty well - it's definitely not oscar material, but it has a ridiculously famous and talented cast
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10:14 Dyrcona It is also quite accurate when it comes to computers for a Hollywood movie.
10:14 kmlussier It's going to be one of those days. comcast--
10:14 kmlussier csharp: I'm sure I can find it through the library. I'm not a big fan of Amazon.
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10:20 csharp kmlussier: gotcha :-)
10:21 Dyrcona comcast--
10:21 Dyrcona monopolies--
10:21 Dyrcona Although, should monopoly ever be plural? :)
10:21 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1747512 Non-cat checkout fix display/print - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=91d838f>
10:25 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1775719 Modify array check for Phantomjs; reduce logging; - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6d98ced>
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12:00 Bmagic can anyone shed light on how the phone notify hold preference in the patron registration screen is checked by default? function extract_hold_notify() doesn't set any variables
12:03 jonadab Not sure if this is a hardcoded default or a consortium default, but someone told us that the default is to do phone iff there's a phone number and email iff there's an email address on the account.
12:04 jonadab SMS only if that option gets turned on explicitly.
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12:17 Bmagic I removed the whole div from the patron registration page and submitted a new patron and the phone number hold notification was STILL set
12:19 Dyrcona Related, almost: Has anyone had patrons mysteriously have the deleted flag set to true after an error when staff are trying to update/change barcodes in the web staff client?
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12:20 jihpringle Bmagic: Lp 1774268 may be related
12:20 pinesol Launchpad bug 1774268 in Evergreen 3.0 "webstaff UX: default hold notification preferences for patrons confusingly presented" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1774268
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12:24 Bmagic jihpringle that is pretty close to my issue! Thanks!
12:26 kmlussier Speaking of that bug, jihpringle, I have moved your Sandbox to mlnc3. I wanted to put it somewhere that should remain somewhat stable over the next couple of weeks.
12:26 jihpringle kmlussier: thanks, I'm going to take another look at it today
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12:31 Bmagic jihpringle++
12:32 nfburton Is there something I should do after an upgrade to force a cache refresh for Evergreen across my system? I don;t want to clear my Hatch settings though...
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12:33 berick miker: gmcharlt: heads up at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ever​green/+bug/1724029/comments/21 -- maybe not a big deal, since max_chunk_size is not used at the API level (anymore), but could have implications for the underlying code.
12:33 pinesol Launchpad bug 1724029 in Evergreen 3.0 "Web Client: Patron Search sorted by last name not working as expected" [High,Confirmed]
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12:34 gmcharlt berick: weird
12:34 gmcharlt but thanks for the heads-up!
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12:54 jihpringle does anyone know where the "Ratings icon" text appears in the OPAC? https://translations.launchpad.net/everg​reen/master/+pots/tpac/fr/844/+translate
12:54 jihpringle I'm guessing it's alternate text for an icon but we haven't been able to figure out where the icon appears
12:56 bshum jihpringle:
12:56 bshum Oops, heh
12:57 bshum jihpringle: There's a line of text on that translation page which says "Located in ../../Open-ILS/src/templates/op​ac/parts/result/table.tt2:483"
12:57 bshum So that tells you the file and the line it appears on (for master probably)
12:57 jihpringle we looked but couldn't find the term in table.tt2 or in any tmplate subdirectory
12:58 bshum Maybe it's a new translation in master, but not in the version you're looking at the file for?
12:58 * bshum sees it in his master repo
12:59 jihpringle that must be it, I'll get one of techs to poke at master
12:59 jihpringle thanks bshum
12:59 bshum Hmm
12:59 bshum It's in rel_3_0 and rel_3_1
12:59 bshum so it doesn't seem new
12:59 bshum Maybe it was edited out of your localized template?
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12:59 jihpringle hmm, we're running 3.1 so it must have been edited out
13:02 bshum Must be, it's been in the file for a long, long time
13:03 miker berick: interesting! yeah, the max_chunk_* is about chopping up large results, whereas max_bundle_* is about collecting.  I suspect that instance was one of the original, pre-renaming uses, and was just wrong in the modern world.  I have a vague theory that it might be related to out-of-order reconstruction of chunked bundles, but no evidence
13:03 miker berick: tl;dr: max_bundle_count is better there, and thanks!
13:04 * miker disappears again
13:05 miker (whisper from the aether ... "we should probably make chunking and bundling mutually exclusive, and send pending bundles before chunking a large result"....)
13:06 bshum jihpringle: But to answer your actual question, the icon appears to be the alt text for something for ContentCafe.
13:09 jihpringle thanks bshum that's exactly what I needed to know
13:09 jihpringle bshum++
13:10 bshum jihpringle++ # french, yay!  :D
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13:38 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: sample patron import script now also updates existing patron data - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e3a67f1>
14:18 Dyrcona So, merging user with itself is a thing you can do, somehow. I don't know how outside of the database.
14:19 Dyrcona But, I have a log entry to prove it's possible from the client, 'cause there's a cstore call to actor.usr_merge with the same id for src and dest usr.
14:19 Dyrcona The result isn't good.
14:28 dbwells Dyrcona: but can we contain it?
14:28 Dyrcona dbwells: Sure, the fix is relatively simple (at least in the database), I'm going to do a test before opening a Lp bug.
14:29 Dyrcona The fix is to add a check at the top of actor.usr_merge to bail if the user ids are the same.
14:29 dbwells Dyrcona: sorry, just a poor attempt at humor.  Next time, more exclamations points, maybe.
14:29 Dyrcona Ah ha!
14:30 Dyrcona :)
14:30 kmlussier You can never have enough exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!
14:30 Dyrcona I kind of thought so.....but wasn't sure. ;)
14:30 Dyrcona Ctlr-u 100 !
14:30 Dyrcona Except, I can't type....
14:31 Dyrcona C-u 100 ! # in more "proper" notiation.
14:39 Dyrcona So, I have verified the behavior in the database.
14:39 Dyrcona Now, to try the fix.
14:42 Dyrcona The fix silently does nothing, though it looks like success to the caller.
14:54 mmorgan Dyrcona: is this different than lp 1718032
14:54 pinesol Launchpad bug 1718032 in Evergreen "Patron merge ignores group application permissions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718032 - Assigned to Michele Morgan (mmorgan)
14:54 Dyrcona mmorgan: Yes.
14:54 Dyrcona It's not a permission issue at all.
14:55 Dyrcona bug 1786534
14:55 pinesol Launchpad bug 1786534 in Evergreen "Possible to merge a user with itself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786534
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15:02 * berick watches the universe fold in on itself
15:03 Dyrcona Schrodinger's User? :)
15:03 mmorgan Dyrcona: berick's fix for 1718032 prevents a logged in staff user from merging their account into another, would that not address the issue?
15:03 rhamby_ If you merge a user with itself does all of it qbits enter all possible spins and states simultaneously?
15:04 kmlussier mmorgan: This could be a user the staff person has permission to merge.
15:04 mmorgan Ah. Ok, I get it.
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15:05 * mmorgan 's head folds in on itself.
15:06 kmlussier mmorgan: Sounds painful.
15:06 Dyrcona mmorgan: No.
15:07 Dyrcona That will not fix the issue. This is different.
15:07 Dyrcona Please, read the bug description.
15:07 Dyrcona rhamby_++
15:07 Dyrcona I stepped away and missed his explanation.
15:07 * mmorgan gets it now. It is different.
15:10 Dyrcona bleh...
15:10 * Dyrcona needs to slow down.
15:14 Dyrcona There should be some of "Don't cross the streams" joke here, but I can't think of a really good one.
15:14 Dyrcona some kind of...
15:15 * Dyrcona double checks the commit message before hitting enter.
15:15 mmorgan It's hard to keep the streams from crossing when the universe is folding in on itself :)
15:18 Dyrcona Indeed!
15:18 Dyrcona My universe has gone fractal.
15:22 Dyrcona Branch pushed to the working repo and the bug updated.
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16:34 kmlussier @quote random
16:34 pinesol kmlussier: Quote #112: "<RoganH> My most remembered contributions to IRC will involve coffee and deep frying." (added by csharp at 12:43 PM, April 15, 2015)
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17:11 pinesol [evergreen|Garry Collum] LP#1752891 Crowded text on Print Item Labels page fix. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ecdcfb2>
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18:31 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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