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06:32 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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07:07 csharp bshum++
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07:28 jeff Hrm. I was going to try -r+s for a bit, but the ChanServ MLOCK for #evergreen prevents +s. Looks like I don't have the required access to override.
07:30 jeff another option would be to +mz and voice everyone, and chanops would be able to see new users attempting to message channel and could voice them.
07:30 jeff but of course the long term solution lies at the network level, not the channel level. we shouldn't spend too much time worrying about it.
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07:33 Dyrcona Think we need +r....
07:33 jeff *sigh*
07:34 Dyrcona I find it amusing that they lump entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts together.
07:36 Dyrcona bshum figured out how to get serflog to register. Turns out the bot is "abandonware," but that doesn't have the same meaning with OSS as it does with commercial software.
07:40 Dyrcona jeff: Were you kicking the bots from the channel or is Freenode doing something?
07:41 jeff I kicked one or two. Freenode staff/systems are killing most.
07:41 jeff (but not before the messages are sent to channel)
07:42 Dyrcona Well, it's kind of hard to detect spam bots before they send a message.
07:51 jeff if your irc daemon doesn't have the ability to filter spam before it's delivered, it's probably going to be difficult to combat even this, an attack where the message content is (currently) static.
07:55 jeff and of course we're only seeing what makes it through other mitigations.
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09:17 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1739284 Bib summary fetches classification scheme - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3bc28ae>
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10:00 * csharp points bug 1785061 in miker's direction, hoping he takes the bait
10:00 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1785061 in Evergreen "web client reporter: can't hard code a list of filter values" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785061
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12:27 jeff In theory what I'm about to do will permit clients to join but not send to channel.
12:29 bshum "In theory" :)
12:30 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org | Can't speak? Make sure your nickname is registered and that you are identified to freenode services: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
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12:33 berick jeff++
12:33 bshum jeff++
12:35 jeff and also in theory, ohiojoe should be able to talk even though they're not (currently) registered and identified to services)
12:37 JBoyer Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down...
12:37 JBoyer Oh, I guess this mic's hot.
12:40 bshum @roulette
12:40 bshum Oh, did I disable that one?  Lame...
12:40 bshum Or hmm
12:40 bshum @dessert
12:40 JBoyer bug 12345
12:40 bshum Yup, poor pinesol
12:40 JBoyer Hm. :/
12:41 bshum Well jeff, I think that means all the bots are silenced by this mode
12:41 jeff @coffee
12:41 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Colombia Huila Supremo, and sends it sliding down the bar to jeff
12:41 bshum It's alive again!
12:42 JBoyer jeff++
12:42 JBoyer bshum++
12:44 * bshum sees jeff building his naughty/nice list
12:44 jeff (known-but-not-registered-and-identified)
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12:53 kmlussier Does meetbot work?
12:53 bshum It should be okay
12:53 bshum pinesol has voice
12:55 bshum @dessert
12:55 * pinesol_green grabs some candy from krvmga's desk for bshum
12:56 bshum Maybe
12:58 kmlussier @dessert 3 bshum
12:58 * pinesol_green grabs some Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream for bshum
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13:06 berick @dessert 3 [band]
13:06 * pinesol_green grabs some Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream for Zuckerberg's Big Mistake
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13:09 bshum @channel voice bts
13:09 pinesol_green bshum: Error: I need to be at least halfopped to voice someone.
13:09 bshum Heh
13:09 bshum @channel voice bts
13:09 pinesol_green bshum: Error: bts is not in #evergreen.
13:09 jeff ...
13:09 bshum Yes, yes, sigh
13:09 bshum This not helpful pinesol_green
13:10 bshum You must be invited?
13:10 bshum Lol
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13:10 bshum @channel voice bts
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13:10 bshum Hmm, well that's not helpful
13:11 * bshum keeps reading the manual
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13:46 ohiojoe DIG meeting in about 15 minutes
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14:00 ohiojoe #startmeeting 2018-08-02 – Documentation Interest Group Meeting
14:00 pinesol_green Meeting started Thu Aug  2 14:00:17 2018 US/Eastern.  The chair is ohiojoe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:00 pinesol_green Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:00 pinesol_green The meeting name has been set to '2018_08_02___documentatio​n_interest_group_meeting'
14:00 ohiojoe an agenda for today's meeting can be found at:
14:00 ohiojoe #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=​evergreen-docs:dig_meetings:20180802-agenda
14:00 ohiojoe #topic Introductions: please paste "#info <username> is <name> <affiliation>" to identify who you are and what organization, if any, you represent
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14:02 jihpringle #info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka)
14:02 ohiojoe #info ohiojoe is Joe Knueven, DIG Facilitator & Evergreen enthusiast
14:02 kgmartin #info /me is Katie Greenleaf Martin, Blair County PA (SPARK consortium)
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14:03 Bmagic #info Bmagic = Blake GH, MOBIUS
14:03 sandbergja #info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College
14:05 ohiojoe #topic old business
14:06 ohiojoe I realized a few minutes ago that in my haste to get an agenda posted, that forgot that items 12 and 13 were already attended to
14:07 ohiojoe Also, oddly enough, I think I got 14 completed as well..  back before work got especially challenging
14:07 sandbergja ohiojoe++
14:09 jihpringle 11 slipped off my radar for a while, but I've put it back on my to do list, though I'll do it for 3.1 rather than 3.0
14:09 ohiojoe good call.  I'll update that for the next agenda
14:10 kgmartin should I add my info to the DIG participants listing?
14:10 ohiojoe yes, please
14:12 ohiojoe any other discussion on old business?
14:14 ohiojoe moving along then..
14:14 ohiojoe #topic New Business
14:15 ohiojoe #topic DIG Facilitator
14:16 ohiojoe would anyone else like to be facilitator?
14:17 jihpringle maybe worth deferring to the next meeting (if you're okay with staying facilitator for now) when we're likely to have more people attend
14:18 ohiojoe that's fine.  I'm willing to continue on for at least another year, to be honest.  That said, if someone is interested I don't want to monopolize the role
14:19 ohiojoe also, I had been a bit absent lately
14:19 sandbergja Are we open to having two co-facilitators?
14:20 sandbergja In case somebody is interested in doing it alongside ohiojoe?
14:20 ohiojoe I certainly am..
14:21 jihpringle I think that's a good idea
14:21 kgmartin that could be really effective especially if the facilitators have different busy times of year :)
14:22 sandbergja It might make voting a little more complicated, but I'm sure we can figure something out!
14:22 jihpringle agreed
14:23 ohiojoe well, I think from a simple logistical standpoint, one of the two would have to call the meeting to order, execute certain commands, but that shouldn't be so hard to coordinate..
14:26 ohiojoe perhaps the best question is, are there any volunteers?  :-)
14:33 jihpringle unfortunately not something I can commit to right now, maybe at some point in the future
14:33 kmlussier From a technical standpoint, I think the only meebot commands that can only be done by the meeting chair are startmeeting, endmeeting, topic and agreed.
14:33 kmlussier So co-facilitators could work provided you don't step on each other's toes. :)
14:33 * kmlussier can't volunteer either.
14:34 ohiojoe :-)  yeah, I think it's very do-able..
14:35 ohiojoe well, we could table this for now..  perhaps I could send something out to the DIG list or general list?
14:36 jihpringle I think that's a good idea, send out a call for a co-facilitor to the DIG and general list and then put it on the agenda for our next meeting
14:37 * kgmartin agrees
14:37 ohiojoe #action ohiojoe will put out a call for a co-facilitator to the DIG and general EG lists
14:37 ohiojoe moving along then
14:38 ohiojoe #topic Ongoing Business
14:39 ohiojoe #topic Progress on documenting new features in Evergreen 3.1 (and previous) and the Web client Web Client docs
14:42 jihpringle we have new 3.1 docs for Sitka that are now written in asciidoc - http://asciidoc.libraries.co​op/sitka-manual-master/html/
14:43 jihpringle are repositories on github are public so our docs can be copied into the DIG docs where applicable
14:43 jihpringle are = our
14:43 ohiojoe jihpringle++
14:46 ohiojoe any other thoughts here?
14:47 remingtron #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College)
14:47 remingtron sorry so late!
14:47 ohiojoe #topic Progress on documentation launchpad bugs
14:47 ohiojoe #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergr​een/+bugs?field.tag=documentation
14:50 remingtron I don't remember if I emailed about this, but...
14:50 remingtron the "web client docs" review project is "complete"
14:50 remingtron which means I've opened Launchpad bugs for any remaining tasks, so the wiki page could be retired
14:51 remingtron the only exceptions are tasks that were assigned to people
14:53 ohiojoe remingtron++
14:53 remingtron so that means there are more Launchpad docs bugs now :)
14:53 kgmartin I was going to say, there are a LOT of new launchpad bugs :-p
14:54 kmlussier remingtron++
14:54 remingtron including more EASY ones (aka bitesize-docs), which are also listed here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php​?id=evergreen-docs:documentation_needs
14:56 kgmartin I am working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1783387
14:56 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1783387 in Evergreen "Documentation: Chapter on print templates still refers to Receipt Template Editor" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Katie Greenleaf Martin (katiegmartin)
14:57 remingtron kgmartin++
14:57 kgmartin I changed the title to "Print (Receipt) Templates" since a LOT of us still call it Receipt Template Editor but the new wording is Print Templates
14:57 ohiojoe kgmartin++
14:58 remingtron good call
14:58 kgmartin and put both terms in the indexterms. any thoughts there?
15:00 ohiojoe sounds like a good approach to me.
15:00 jihpringle it makes sense to put both in the index
15:00 ohiojoe are there any other comments, thoughts, etc before we close since we're up against the hour?
15:01 ohiojoe thank you everyone
15:01 ohiojoe #endmeeting
15:01 pinesol_green Meeting ended Thu Aug  2 15:01:41 2018 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:01 pinesol_green Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2018/evergreen.2018-08-02-14.00.html
15:01 pinesol_green Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2018/evergreen.2018-08-02-14.00.txt
15:01 pinesol_green Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2018/evergreen.2018-08-02-14.00.log.html
15:01 jihpringle thank you for facilitating ohiojoe++
15:02 jeff dig++
15:02 remingtron ohiojoe++
15:02 ohiojoe it feels good to get back in the swing of things
15:03 ohiojoe I'll try to email out the schedule based on the discussion from the in person meeting back in May by the end of the week here..
15:03 kgmartin ohiojoe++ thanks for facilitating!
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18:32 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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