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IRC log for #evergreen, 2018-07-17

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06:32 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:41 Dyrcona Whee! Using a feature that I wrote 5 years ago!
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09:42 Dyrcona Figures a simple CStore search times looking for all not deleted copies at an org unit. Time for streaming results.
09:45 Dyrcona And while I'm thinking of it, maybe I should have added an IDL entry for a particular custom table and possibly another custom view.
09:45 Dyrcona At the time I figured I'd only use them via SQL and the Perl DBI.
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09:46 Dyrcona Think I'll add the IDL entries and try them out.
09:56 Dyrcona Eh, maybe not. #lazy
10:00 Dyrcona I should...Maybe I will later....for our next upgrade.
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11:52 Dyrcona recv timeout doesn't seem to be working for me. I must be doing something wrong.
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11:53 Dyrcona Ayup. Error at a different point just above that.
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14:06 Bmagic Anyone seen Webby somehow circumventing the deleted flag on copies in order to put them in transit? We are finding examples of deleted copies going into transit well after they were deleted.
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14:10 JBoyer Bmagic, do you have any patches loaded related to checking in deleted items (usually for removing them from patron's accounts)? I don't have the bug number handy but I thought I saw some talk about it in the last few weeks.
14:11 Bmagic Stock EG code running for this example
14:11 berick what's the command to show a commit in here?
14:12 berick ~commit 23a21e4e529ac2215962f419ed9bb486a5096e84
14:12 pinesol_green berick: [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1751368 Items-out checkin of deleted copies - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=23a21e4>
14:12 berick hah
14:12 Bmagic and there you go?
14:12 berick that's in master, btw
14:12 Bmagic JBoyer: select * from action.transit_copy atc,asset.copy ac where  atc.target_copy =ac.id and ac.deleted and atc.dest_recv_time is null and atc.source_send_time > ac.status_changed_time and atc.cancel_time is null
14:14 JBoyer That Q gives me 6 results. They're all from 2010 and 2011 though.
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14:28 jeff status_changed_time doesn't get bumped by trigger when a copy is deleted.
14:28 Dyrcona A lot of things don't touch status_changed_time.
14:29 jeff Bmagic: can you consult the auditor tables to determine if the copy was really deleted when it went into transit?
14:29 Bmagic ok, I'll craft a new query
14:31 jeff But I suspect checkin of a deleted copy at a non-home library might still put a deleted copy in transit.
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14:35 JBoyer Bmagic, if you switch status_update_time for edit_date (which is actually a timestamp, despite the name) I get 0 results and I suspect you may also. (or at least closer to 0).
14:36 Bmagic Still get 5 examples
14:36 JBoyer recent?
14:37 JBoyer (Not saying its impossible, just that edit_date is more likely more regularly changed, though it's not connected to a specific trigger)
14:40 jeff fairly certain it's quite possible currently. nothing seems to force a noop checkin for those checkins, and very few things care about the copy being deleted in Circ/Circulate.pm
14:41 jeff something else that used to be easy and then became less-easy and perhaps became more-easy in the web client would be the ability to delete a circulating copy.
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16:37 Bmagic JBoyer: Yep, just a month or two old and the item was deleted YEARS ago
16:38 Bmagic But I have yet to check auditor to get a solid deletion date
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16:39 jeff If the item went in transit a month or two ago and you suspect it was because the item was checked in from a patron's Items Out tab, there would likely be a circulation for that item with a checkin_time or checkin_scan_time around the time of the transit.
16:40 Bmagic ah yes, deleted items that are shown in the items out on patron account is the only case where I can think of deleted items surfacing in any UI
16:41 jeff short of taking more steps to prevent the situation where you have a checked out item that is deleted, teaching the circ ML to force noop on a checkin of a deleted copy might also be good.
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17:28 Bmagic jeff: weird, 0 rows in action.circulation and 0 rows in action.aged_circulation for those..... the plot thickens
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