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08:53 * Dyrcona wonders if he should ask in here or in #postgresql.....
08:53 Dyrcona But, first, a paste!
09:01 Dyrcona So, I came up with this script to remove old action_trigger events and event output this week: https://pastebin.com/34t5AY1z
09:02 Dyrcona I have tested it on a copy of production data from Wednesday around midnight.
09:02 Dyrcona It works, and it drops about 30GB of useless data from our database.
09:03 Dyrcona My question is, when I run this in production, should I shut down cron jobs and anything else that may touch the action_trigger tables while it runs?
09:03 Dyrcona Or, will normal database locking take care of any problems?
09:04 Dyrcona My final, working,  test ran in about 6 minutes 46 seconds on my test db server.
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09:17 JBoyer Dyrcona, I'd probably still pause them just out of an overabundance of caution, but I don't have a definitive answer.
09:18 Dyrcona JBoyer: That's what I'm thinking, plus it would give me a chance to install a small customization to the web client.
09:18 JBoyer and you don't have to drop those constraints only to truncate, if I don't drop them it takes minutes to delete a single output. :/
09:19 Dyrcona I don't know who to install js changes with doing the full install dance, and that requires me to stop services and unmount NFS because of changes I made to how we share.
09:19 JBoyer (maybe not minute(s), I can't remember right now, but an absurd amount of time)
09:20 Dyrcona JBoyer: It would not truncate action_trigger.event_output with the constraints in place. I even put the truncate of both tables on 1 line with action_trigger.event first.
09:20 JBoyer I *think* you can just do the web client bits in the repo and then cp the results into place. I haven't tried it myself but everything in there is pretty well self-contained.
09:20 Dyrcona I thought a simple copy didn't work for js changes.
09:20 JBoyer I'm not saying you don't need to drop them, I'm saying you need to drop them for more things than just truncating. :)
09:21 Dyrcona Oh, OK! I misunderstood. My bad. :)
09:21 JBoyer a cp after doing the npm build-prod and all of that. then cp
09:21 Dyrcona I'm on 3.0 so grunt all... :)
09:21 JBoyer cp'ing the whole tree. You can't copy over one of the individual files.
09:22 Dyrcona OK. I'll give that a try on a vm. I have one that I still need to update to 3.0.
09:22 JBoyer Oh, in that case I think you can just copy over the top of them. you may have to restart apache though
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09:22 Dyrcona I think the delete might be helped if the triggers were dererrable as per my comment in the script.
09:25 JBoyer I can do a quick check on that.
09:27 Dyrcona So, over in #postgresql nickb suggests doing an explict table lock at the beginning of the transaction to prevent update to action_trigger.event.
09:28 Dyrcona I think shutting down services and putting up a "we're down for maintenance page" is likely a better option, though I should probably lock the tables anyway.
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09:30 JBoyer Yeah, it might not be many, but some events could be updated between the select and the truncate. And locking people out of circ'ing for 5+ minutes will make you unpopular with staff. :)
09:30 Dyrcona :)
09:31 Dyrcona This will require planning....
09:33 Dyrcona Oh, good. Postgres died on the replicant server....
09:42 Dyrcona We've also had some issues with Apache processes spinning with high CPU since the upgrade, and I don't think it's a websockets issue or not the same that was patched, because we are on OpenSRF 3.0.1.
09:47 Dyrcona Also, Overdrive integration appears to be not working, or sort of not working....
09:48 Dyrcona Overdrive's test environment requiring different credentials and configuration from production is less than ideal.
09:56 JBoyer re: deferrable, it is helpful if you're doing much else in a transaction, but if deleting from action_trigger.evtent_output is the last thing before the commit it doesn't really make a difference.
09:57 JBoyer Since it's ~20s per ateo for me I'll probably only ever drop constraint; delete; alter table; to clean it up. :/
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09:59 Dyrcona JBoyer: Ok. Have you tried the cleanup db function and configure the retention_interval?
09:59 Dyrcona I was wondering if the function would work without deferred constraints.
10:00 Dyrcona I want to test that but I have more immediate things going on.
10:00 berick we're using retention_interval locally, but only after a big initial cleanup
10:00 berick w/ truncates
10:01 Bmagic Dyrcona++ # nice script
10:01 Dyrcona Bmagic: I have an improvement to make.
10:01 * Bmagic googling "ON COMMIT DROP AS"
10:05 Bmagic very cool
10:05 Dyrcona Well, ON COMMIT DROP and AS are separate things. :)
10:06 Dyrcona Also, I just edited the past to include an exclusive lock on both tables.
10:06 * Dyrcona wishes he could edit the past. :)
10:06 Bmagic "When rows are dropped that meet this critera: copy them to this table" ?
10:06 Dyrcona No.
10:07 Dyrcona ON COMMIT DROP works with CREATE TEMP TABLE, to drop the temp table on a commit.
10:07 Bmagic I see, drop the temp table with the commit at the bottom of this transaction
10:07 Dyrcona AS works with CREATE [TEMP} TABLE to create the table from the results of the following SQL query.
10:07 Dyrcona Right.
10:08 Dyrcona The on commit drop is not necessary because the tables will be dropped when the script exits anyway, but I like to be explicit.
10:08 Bmagic neat
10:08 Dyrcona Plus, it saves space when you have multiple transactions in a script file.
10:09 Bmagic What was your edit? It looks like the paste is updated. This looks new "LOCK TABLE action_trigger.event, action_trigger.event_output IN EXCLUSIVE MODE;"
10:11 Dyrcona Yeah, that's the edit. I decided to lock the tables to prevent outside updates.
10:12 Bmagic good idea
10:12 Dyrcona I considered preventing selects, too.
10:14 Bmagic These tables are a problem for me and probably many others as well!
10:14 Bmagic Dyrcona++
10:14 Dyrcona Yeah. 3.0 adds a function to keep them cleaned up and the release notes recommend doing something like my script before starting that process.
10:15 Bmagic yep
10:15 Dyrcona As I mentioned before, that script drops 30GB from my copy of production.
10:15 Bmagic What a great payoff
10:17 Dyrcona Hmm. On my Apache's using a lot of CPU... I didn't apply the patches for the hash values being different when I installed OpenSRF for the upgrade. I wonder if that is the problem?
10:18 Dyrcona Well, the cache key. Every brick/server has a different cache key.
10:18 Bmagic my production bricks still report different keys
10:18 Bmagic Have for years
10:19 Dyrcona OK. I didn't really think it was a big deal. Back in November, miker indicated that it should really cause a problem.
10:19 Dyrcona s/should/shouldn't/ ... :)
10:20 * miker reads up
10:23 terran berick: Any chance you could take a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1774427
10:23 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1774427 in Evergreen "Date of Birth sometimes off by a month in patron edit form" [High,New]
10:24 miker Dyrcona: re your first thing this morn', yes, pause a/t while running that, lest the locks cause opensrf-level timeouts and cause things to stick in a weird state (because of the explicit exclusive lock)
10:25 Dyrcona miker: Yeap. Thanks for confirming.
10:25 miker as for different cache keys, it just means every browser may cache up to  $brick_count identical copies of the data under different url keys
10:27 berick terran: that's... fun
10:27 miker and, now that the cache key is being used more liberally, the same goes for a lot of js and css, and maybe images. not just the autogen-generated stuff
10:27 terran berick: :(
10:29 Dyrcona miker: So, it would be a good idea, though not critical, to get all cache keys to be the same?
10:32 miker terran: ew ... that looks like something is adding 1 based on the fact that Date().prototype.getMonth() returns the month as number in the a range of 0-11, but getDate() isn't actually being used...
10:32 miker Dyrcona: aye
10:33 terran miker: wouldn't that make all the months be off by one instead of only some of the months?
10:33 miker hrm, yes
10:35 miker AH HA
10:35 miker months with 31 days are fine
10:35 miker weird!
10:37 terran !!!
10:37 Dyrcona Something adding 30 days?
10:38 miker Dyrcona: that or similar, it would seem
10:38 miker well, no
10:38 miker because adding 30 days to 71-01-05 would still shift the month
10:39 berick ok, it's calling setMonth before setDate
10:39 berick if the day is too high, it shifts the month to accomodate
10:39 berick d = new Date() ; d.setMonth(1)
10:40 berick demonstrates the issue
10:40 miker berick: ah, and by default the DOM is today
10:40 berick yeah
10:41 dbwells So this bug only happens on the 31st of each month?
10:41 miker well, but if you're in, say feb and the dob was march 31, the reverse would still be a problem. the DOM would shift
10:41 Dyrcona More or less.
10:41 Dyrcona And, yeah, I was thinking February would be special.
10:41 miker so, we just need to use the constructor that looks like this: var d = new Date(year, month, day, hours, minutes, seconds, milliseconds);
10:41 terran dbwells: In my testing it didn't matter what the day is
10:42 berick miker: yeah, that's what I was thinking...
10:42 miker terran: but it matters what day you test on! :)
10:42 dbwells terran: right, what miker said :)
10:42 terran miker: oh!
10:42 terran :D
10:42 berick ugh, but that creates dates in UTC.
10:42 * berick is reminded why we don't do that now
10:43 dbwells date-time stuff gets all the best bugs :D
10:43 Bmagic I vote we change the way humans keep track of time
10:44 berick we'd learn to parse epochs in no time
10:44 Bmagic It should be base 2
10:44 JBoyer There's a reason there are more than 4 editions of this book: https://www.amazon.com/Calendrical-Calculati​ons-Ultimate-Edward-Reingold/dp/1107683165/
10:45 JBoyer Also getMonth() returning 0-11 is a math crime.
10:45 Bmagic JBoyer++
10:45 JBoyer (I have a copy, it's a little more dry than I was hoping)
10:46 Dyrcona Dates are hard. (I'm not being facetious.)
10:46 terran Bmagic: time is just a social construct anyway
10:46 dbwells JBoyer: Just make sure to avoid the "Millennium Edition", that stuffs never good
10:47 Bmagic It should be more like Date of birth: noonish, in the 80's. Leaving a little wiggle room for error
10:47 JBoyer The edition of the book stops working each day at midnight.
10:47 JBoyer dbwells++
10:48 miker berick: we can use moment-js I bet
10:48 miker I have a call in a few minutes, so can't look up the details right now, but moment is pretty rad, and already loaded
10:49 JBoyer Dyrcona, re: using the A/T cleanup script with any constraints in place: I'm not sure it matters if they're deferrable or not because you're waiting the same amount of time before completion, the only question is when you wait.
10:50 Dyrcona JBoyer: I'm not clear how constraints affect truncate. I know that deferred constraints will allow deletes in any order as longs as data is deleted from both tables in the same transaction.
10:51 Dyrcona My concern is just getting the truncate to succeed and not how fast or slow it was.
10:53 berick miker: i think i'm overthinking.  Date(y,m,d) returns the correct value, it's just repesented by default as UTC (at 5am) w/ toString.  toLocaleString() shows correct value.
10:53 berick i suspect that will work fine.  i'll post a patch
10:54 terran berick++
10:54 terran Thanks everyone!!!
10:54 Dyrcona berick++
10:54 kmlussier berick++
10:54 miker berick: ah, because we only care about the date, we can just lop off the time part. of course
10:54 miker berick++
10:56 Dyrcona So, I have apache2-websockets instances spinning out of control.
10:58 Dyrcona Oh, that's lovely: [Wed May 30 10:53:18.447792 2018] [core:notice] [pid 3491] AH00051: child pid 14598 exit signal Segmentation fault (11), possible coredump in /etc/apache2-websockets
11:00 Dyrcona Of course, those are dead and not spinning doing nothing.
11:13 JBoyer Dyrcona, oh, I wasn't following the actual question, I assumed the truncate was a one-time cleanup before using the built-in cleanup. I would assume that deferrable would work, but I wasn't testing that before. I may give that a shot soon.
11:20 Dyrcona So, we appear to be having issues with websockets.
11:21 csharp berick++
11:21 Dyrcona I guess that's too vague. I'll have to do some research and open a Lp bug.
11:21 csharp 10 minutes from your push to applying to PINES production :-)
11:22 berick csharp: nice :)
11:23 * csharp rocks it like it's 2008-era PINES
11:23 berick Dyrcona: strace showing what looping WS processes is helpful, especially if you can clarify (for example) if it's looping on an open socket, etc. and what that socket points to.
11:23 terran I don't say it enough, but y'all rock.
11:29 Dyrcona berick: Apparently no dice: strace: [ Process PID=3068 runs in x32 mode. ]
11:30 Dyrcona I'm googling to see what I can do about that. I'll try the other pids, too.
11:30 berick huh, i've never seen that before
11:32 Dyrcona Interestingly, it attaches to one that isn't stuck, but produces only partial output.
11:32 Dyrcona All of the stuck ones report running in x32 mode from strace.
11:33 Dyrcona And, they're still running after issuing a kill to each one.
11:34 Dyrcona Better luck on the other brick.
11:34 Dyrcona I'm getting futex with a FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE
11:35 miker csharp: I was going to say something about "like back in 2006" but back then we just DID IT LIVE ;)
11:36 berick Dyrcona: for one that's spinning?
11:36 Dyrcona yes.
11:36 berick k, nothing else in the strace?
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11:37 Dyrcona berick: futex(0x7f162de1a1c8, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL
11:37 Dyrcona On all three.
11:38 miker Dyrcona: I often have to kill spinning websockets twice (threads, I think) if I use sig 15 (this is pre-patch websockets)
11:38 Dyrcona I'm using strace -C -p 22381 should I use any other options?
11:38 Dyrcona miker: OK. sometimes I've had to do it twice, sometimes not.
11:39 berick Dyrcona: any gateway logs spewing?
11:39 berick Dyrcona: and I assume all opensrf patches applied?
11:40 miker Dyrcona: yes, it's not always for me either
11:40 Dyrcona berick: I'll check the logs, and we're basically on OpenSRF 3.0.1. I installed rel_3_0 on Sunday night.
11:41 Dyrcona I also verified that it's up to date with what's on the community repos.
11:41 berick k
11:43 Dyrcona It's also hit or miss finding the pids in the logs on the syslog server, or even the local host.
11:43 Dyrcona Our logs are logging pids to apache logs, but I'm only finding some of these.
11:44 berick Dyrcona: are all the futex calls identical?
11:44 berick in the strace
11:44 Dyrcona berick: They are.
11:45 Dyrcona That could be strace trying to attach?
11:46 Dyrcona https://meenakshi02.wordpress.com/2​011/02/02/strace-hanging-at-futex/
11:46 Dyrcona That looks useful. I'm reading it.
11:46 berick good call
11:49 Dyrcona So, It looks like there are 3 threads spawned by one of these.
11:50 berick sounds right
11:50 Dyrcona Attaching to 1 gives me the futex output, another says it is in x32 mode, the third looks like it hung in select.
11:50 berick web -> osrf thread; osrf -> web thread; idle timeout thread
11:51 Dyrcona select ... wait4 repeat over and over again.
11:51 berick ah, ok, so it's looping on select() ?
11:52 Dyrcona yeah, lost ejabberd connection, maybe?
11:52 berick maybe.  latest patches should have addressed that though
11:52 berick could have missed something...
11:52 csharp miker: yep :-)
11:54 Dyrcona berick: Same thing on all of them when I get to the right child process.
11:55 csharp Dyrcona: berick: miker: this is an interesting discussion, because I've been seeing spinning websocket procs since applying the hotfix (compiling on another server and moving the .so file into place, restarting services), but I thought it was a Just Me™ problem
11:55 csharp and I have to kill them twice too
11:55 * berick nods
11:56 Dyrcona Oh, cool. It's started on a 3rd brick head again. :)
11:57 Dyrcona What's interesting (and it may just be coincidence) is I've only seen this on 4 out of 5 bricks so far.
11:57 JBoyer This is not doing me any favors as I plan for an upgrade in 2 days.
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11:58 csharp JBoyer: for us, it's just a minor headache - nothing serious
11:58 JBoyer Dyrcona, deferrable constraints doesn't allow you to do the truncates the way you do in your script, though it does work to do both at once: TRUNCATE TABLE action_trigger.event, action_trigger.event_output; does work, and will likely work with constraints as-is.
11:59 berick Dyrcona: the looping select() calls are identical too?
11:59 berick ... and what are they exactly?
11:59 csharp futex(0x7fad78e911c8, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL
12:00 berick csharp: read up for futux / strace discussion
12:00 JBoyer csharp, so kind of like the occasional dead spinning connection we have now? That's less alarming, downgraded to Bummer Status. ;)
12:00 berick csharp: https://meenakshi02.wordpress.com/2​011/02/02/strace-hanging-at-futex/
12:00 csharp JBoyer: yeah, definitely in the "bummer" category for us
12:01 Dyrcona csharp: Do you have pre-3.0 OpenSRF libraries hanging around?
12:02 Dyrcona I do, and I wonder if that might be an issue. (I doubt it, though.)
12:02 Dyrcona berick: they are not all identical.
12:03 Dyrcona The first looks like: select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {0, 481231}) = 0 (Timeout)
12:03 Dyrcona wait4(-1, 0x7ffc153bfe0c, WNOHANG|WSTOPPED, NULL) = 0
12:03 Dyrcona After that the 481231 changes to 0.
12:04 csharp select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {1, 0})     = 0 (Timeout)
12:04 csharp wait4(-1, 0x7ffe3e7f64ec, WNOHANG|WSTOPPED, NULL) = 0
12:04 Dyrcona And, the 0 changes to 1.
12:04 Dyrcona Yeah, like csharp's example.
12:04 csharp select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {0, 185014}) = 0 (Timeout)
12:04 csharp wait4(-1, 0x7ffe3e7f64ec, WNOHANG|WSTOPPED, NULL) = 0
12:04 csharp ^^ my first lines
12:04 gmcharlt berick: here's one you might find interesting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1774448
12:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1774448 in Evergreen "web staff client can spam open-ils.auth.session.retrieve requests" [Undecided,New]
12:05 Dyrcona The number in the {0, NUMBER} changes each time I strace the same process.
12:05 Dyrcona And, it's different for each process.
12:06 csharp Dyrcona: confirmed
12:06 berick thanks Dyrcona csharp
12:06 csharp @band add Dyrcona csharp
12:06 pinesol_green csharp: Band 'Dyrcona csharp' added to list
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12:07 * Dyrcona is going to have some lunch. BBIAB.
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12:24 Dyrcona berick: I don't know how useful the summary is, but this is what I got from letting strace run for a while: https://pastebin.com/hjLGkN2k
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12:52 Bmagic rhamby: above_the_treeline.pl needs a line removed from commit http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/equinox.​git;a=blobdiff;f=above_the_treeline/above_treeli​ne_export.pl;h=8c89a26734824a85e79af86a0f2cc249b​388019f;hp=7397bd63ca063a5ceb2f661851645263b2d3f​93f;hb=d152a4c3f0c1e8c44266a420d0aa56c1799dcd43;​hpb=66c58ca349a077cfdcd3f257fea4823c40025e29
12:52 Bmagic if (defined $ftp_host and defined $ftp_user) {
12:52 Bmagic is redundant and causes parsing error, FYI
12:54 rhamby hmm must have snuck in when copying from a buffer at some point, fixed
12:59 Bmagic right on
13:01 csharp @blame the buffer
13:01 pinesol_green csharp: the buffer musta been an Apple employee.
13:02 rhamby Blame the Buffer will be my Wield Al Yankovic tribute band .....
13:06 * csharp 's eyes cross trying to track the changes in the cataloging omnibus branch :-/ (bug 1773417)
13:06 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1773417 in Evergreen 3.0 "Webstaff Cataloging Cleanup Omnibus, May 2018" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1773417
13:07 csharp I understand the rationale for the comprehensive approach, but I do much better with one issue per bug :-(
13:14 Dyrcona csharp: Same here.
13:15 Dyrcona The web client bugs have had a tendency to go comprehensive. :)
13:16 Dyrcona @band add Blame the Buffer
13:16 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Band 'Blame the Buffer' added to list
13:18 JBoyer aw, shucks. I always end up on Blame the Buffer's overflow list. :(
13:23 berick Dyrcona: interesting, more stuff going on there... is that just one thread?
13:25 Dyrcona berick: Yes, just 1 thread.
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13:25 berick but in the raw output, it's just showing select(...) and wai4()  looping?
13:25 Dyrcona One that was spinning on select most of the time and the parent thread is still using between 95 and 100% cpu.
13:26 Dyrcona No, the raw output eventually shows the write() and other calls along with a sigchld.
13:27 Dyrcona berick: Here's a sample: https://pastebin.com/MrLuDkqu
13:28 jeffdavis we've got spinning websockets procs here too, I thought it might be connected to the jabber error reported in bug 1773249 but haven't confirmed that yet
13:28 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1773249 in Evergreen "Retrieving copy templates in web client can result in NOT CONNECTED errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1773249
13:30 miker jeffdavis: that, and saving overlarge copy template blobs, can both cause the issue, IIUC
13:31 Dyrcona I did some messages about copy templates when looking at the logs earlier.
13:31 Dyrcona One of the pids that I managed to find in the apache logs, the last productive thing it did was retrieve copy templates.
13:31 Dyrcona After that, tons of SSL errors.
13:32 miker related, I've been investigating a chunking /request/ feature to split overlarge request messages up and have them reassembled in the listener
13:32 csharp huh - hadn't put it together before, but I know we're getting complaints from catalogers (those brave enough to risk using the scary new web client) about copy template "weirdness"
13:33 csharp intermittent issues that are basically unreproducible in our office environment
13:33 csharp I'm sure we're dealing with massive JSON blobs
13:33 Dyrcona Well, I'm going to finally kill some of these on one of the bricks. I'm getting load warnings for the brick head, now.
13:33 Dyrcona I still have 'em spinning on two other bricks if more strace data is needed.
13:35 jeffdavis It's not consistently reproducible in our environment either. Retrieving the same big JSON blob works sometimes and fails other times. I want to test the specific step of copying XUL templates to the new web client copy template user setting (see the load_remote_acp_templates() function in cat/volcopy/app.js), but haven't had time yet.
13:43 Dyrcona Wow!
13:44 Dyrcona One of them is now using 192.7% cpu and refuses to TERM. Time to KILL.
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13:45 Dyrcona And, a new one has joined the gang... :)
13:48 Dyrcona So, I should look for NOT CONNECTED messages in the logs?
13:48 miker Dyrcona: no, those come from the other side of the conversation. best to look in the ejabberd logs, actually
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13:50 miker that is, if the cause is ejabberd dropping connections to clients that send to-big stanzas in your case
13:50 dbs On that chunking front, is it worth increasing max_stanza_size again? (ours is at 100000 in 2.12 to handle 65536 + multi-byte chars)
13:51 dbs But I think we were in the millions before some of the chunking repairs in the 2.12 time frame resolved the worst of the issues? So maybe new moles popping up their heads. Ahh, memories...
13:51 * Dyrcona looks. I don't think I changed max stanza size.
13:52 csharp nothing in my ejabberd log for one that just popped up
13:52 Dyrcona My max_stanza_size is 2097152.
13:52 Dyrcona So, yeah, I don't think that's it.
13:53 csharp max_stanza_size: 2000000
13:53 dbs haha, yay millions :)
13:53 csharp @sing R.E.M. : 1,000,000
13:53 pinesol_green csharp: I see nothing, I know nothing!
13:54 csharp pinesol_green: learn to sing
13:54 pinesol_green csharp: Down time is a fact of business when you're a poor 501c3 corporation.
13:58 dbs csharp++
13:59 dbs @eightball is mobius richer than sfc?
13:59 pinesol_green dbs: Maybe...
13:59 jeffdavis not finding ejabberd errors here either
14:00 jeffdavis and our max_stanza_size is 4194304, I think we win?
14:00 Dyrcona heh
14:01 csharp @sing The Smiths : Some max_stanza_sizes are Bigger Than Others
14:01 pinesol_green csharp: Have you tried taking it apart and putting it back together again?
14:06 dbs @quote add <han_solo> I've got a baaad feeling about this... upgrade
14:06 pinesol_green dbs: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
14:07 csharp dbs++
14:08 csharp @quote add <han_solo> I've got a baaad feeling about this... upgrade
14:08 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Quote #187 added.
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14:10 dbs @quote add < jeffdavis> and our max_stanza_size is 4194304, I think we win?
14:10 pinesol_green dbs: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
14:10 dbs bah
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14:15 Dyrcona dbs did you identify yourself with bot to add the quote? if not, I can add it.
14:16 berick strace is not helping me too much, unfortunately.  suffice to say if someone can reliably reproduce, I'm all over it.
14:17 Dyrcona That's the thing. I haven't seen it on a test environment, so I'm not sure what it triggering it. I'll look into the copy templates angle later.
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14:25 * Dyrcona wishes he could copy and paste text from an image, but doesn't have OCR for the clipboard.
14:25 * berick wishes he could copy/paste from his eyes
14:25 berick some day
14:26 csharp @blame Black Mirror
14:26 pinesol_green csharp: Black Mirror must eat cottage cheese!
14:30 frank_g Hi all, I have a question, Why Does the search result item details display diferent information in the public opac and in the Eg staff client window? For example, in the staff window an item doesnt display Record details>>"Physical Description: regular print" and in the public opac it appears.
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14:31 pinesol_green [evergreen|Remington Steed] Docs: Add bullet number images removed in 2.10 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=55d62d4>
14:35 frank_g I think I found a bug "I guess", but when you enable/disable the Highlighting, the Record details displayed changes, Or Is this correct?
14:36 frank_g Try to disable higlighting in this record: http://biblioteca.ipicyt.edu.mx/eg/opac/​record/43693?contains=contains;_special=​1;detail_record_view=0;qtype=item_barcod​e;query=LCI01143;locg=1;expand=marchtml
14:40 JBoyer frank_g, I think there's a bug about that. Basically when using the highlight code it uses the new Display Fields entries, but the non-highlight code path still uses the old MODS-based data extraction. I'm not sure what the progress is on that one right now.
14:40 terran frank_g: Weird! I can confirm the behavior on a demo server here: https://sb2.missourievergreen.org/eg​/opac/record/248?query=ready;qtype=k​eyword;locg=1;detail_record_view=0
14:46 gmcharlt JBoyer: frank_g: I believe that the  bug in question is https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1752434
14:46 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1752434 in Evergreen "Search highlighting affects OPAC title display" [Low,Fix released]
14:47 JBoyer gmcharlt++
14:47 * JBoyer was distracted
14:48 frank_g JBoyer: terran gmcharlt pinesol_green thanks for the support
14:54 kmlussier There are still issues even with that patch applied. bug 1770454
14:54 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1770454 in Evergreen "Strange behavior for subject display in staff catalog" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1770454
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15:13 JBoyer So I'm fruitlessly looking for the template to edit to alter the html output of the supercat browse list. (server/opac/extras/browse/ht​ml/item-age/aou/offset/count
15:14 JBoyer Anyone have a pointer for me to follow? I've noticed PINES has customized theirs.
15:15 dbs JBoyer: I believe it's all in the Perl code, IIRC
15:16 JBoyer That would explain my difficulty in tracking it down. I'll go grep about under perlmods/lib
15:16 JBoyer dbs++
15:16 dbs http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git​;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenILS/W​WW/SuperCat/Feed.pm;h=56146cb988b39ca87db3eb5​a5a2dfb55f0d84f5f;hb=refs/heads/rel_3_1#l635
15:16 dbs oh right, and then there's an XSLT that gets applied
15:17 JBoyer Thanks! those 2 pieces of info have likely saved me a nice pile of time.
15:17 JBoyer dbs++ # again!
15:17 dbs my pleasure
15:20 dbwells I don't know why we don't just use xsl for all of our templates.  Oh wait, YES I DO.
15:21 jeff dbwells++
15:22 JBoyer dbwells++
15:22 JBoyer The first thing I'm likely to change is the output format: HTML5. The second thing I'm likely to change is my mind. ;)
15:23 Dyrcona :)
15:23 JBoyer (Note: sloppy joke is sloppy. I'm not changing how any of this works, I'm just thinking about changing the doctype in the xsl.)
15:26 terran frank_g: If you want
15:27 terran frankg_g: Sorry, was called away. If you put a bug report in launchpad, I'll confirm it.
15:38 mmorgan I'm having trouble with action triggers after a server relocation. After running for a while they seem to be stalled.
15:39 mmorgan They're not changing state.
15:40 mmorgan If I have a bunch of triggers in collected state, are they stuck? Or will they get processed?
15:42 mmorgan s/triggers/events
15:45 miker dbwells: we actually attempted that at the very beginning. we even experimented with delivering XML that referenced a stylesheet for the browser to apply, instead of doing it server side!
15:47 miker XSLT is Turing-complete, what's the matter?!
15:48 dbwells miker: They were the best of times, they were the worst of times :)
15:49 * berick sends a 70M file through websockets to try and break it.
15:50 miker berick: as a method param?
15:50 dbwells berick: I first read that as "70 million files".  berick doesn't mess around!
15:50 berick miker: no, as a part of the response data
15:50 miker ah
15:50 miker poor browser!
15:51 berick though maybe i'll try as a param too...
15:51 berick dbwells: it may come to that :)
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16:01 berick finally finished. no issues, websockets fine.
16:01 berick that's encouraging, anyway
16:13 mmorgan Ok, so some of my triggers are running again, but I have a bunch of predue notices that are still stuck in state collected and reacting. Can I run the trigger command to pick those up or do I have to set their state back to pending in order to get them to process?
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17:02 mmorgan For the logs, I reset the states of the events to pending and was able to process them. Whew!
17:04 kmlussier mmorgan++
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18:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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