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00:59 jeffdavis What a jerk.
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06:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:03 esoterica *cringe
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10:14 berick @quote random
10:14 pinesol_green berick: Quote #70: "<rfrasur> I think every librarian needs their own toolbox." (added by Dyrcona at 11:09 AM, November 07, 2013)
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11:01 Dyrcona @dunno
11:01 pinesol_green Dyrcona: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.ph​p?theme=2&amp;music=6&amp;url=evergreen-ils.org
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11:05 bshum @quote random
11:05 pinesol_green bshum: Quote #153: "<Jboyer> aside from causing serious staff confusion you don't have to worry about it." (added by jeff at 03:39 PM, May 27, 2016)
11:11 Bmagic @coffee
11:11 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Hamma Cooperative Yirgacheffe, Fair-Trade Organic, and sends it sliding down the bar to Bmagic
11:11 Bmagic That sounds exotic
11:12 Bmagic http://www.coffeereview.com/rev​iew/ethiopian-yirgacheffe-hama/
11:13 Bmagic Conference idea: opt-in for purchasing a couple of pounds of one of these pinesol_green coffee's and each having a cup over a brief round table meeting!
11:16 dbwells Bmagic: I'm in!
11:17 Bmagic dbwells: Awwww yeah
11:17 kmlussier Back in the days when #egils was our hashtag, I wanted to purchase a bunch of egils beer for the conference. https://untappd.com/w/egils/16869
11:18 Bmagic haha!
11:27 JBoyer I'm in for a coffee adventure!
11:27 Bmagic It might be time to start a sign up sheet
11:28 Bmagic and a vote for which flavor
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11:28 Bmagic I am thinking we have pinesol_green choose the flavor at random. If we get enough signups, maybe two at random?
11:35 JBoyer We go through a lot of coffee, but it's worth keeping in mind that a lot of places won't allow you to make your own. :/ You've got to buy their $50/gal well coffee.
11:35 JBoyer Oh, and the point: 2 types would probably be plenty because 3-4 types is a lot of coffee to get through in less than a week.  :)
11:38 gsams JBoyer: Just gotta make sure it's ground beforehand and bring a bunch of aeropresses, and maybe an electric kettle!
11:39 gsams Not as clean probably, but it makes a good cup of coffee.
11:41 JBoyer gsams++
11:41 JBoyer It's worth trying! Besides, it would be fun to set a new baseline for "I've been kicked out of nicer places than this!" should the option present itself in the future.
11:43 kmlussier The hack-a-way may be a better place for this adventures since they often are held at smaller places that may not have as many rules about what you can bring in along with high food & beverage minimums.
11:44 JBoyer It's also happening sooner. ;)
11:44 bshum Yeah, when is that happening in November?  :D
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12:25 Dyrcona gsams: I'm curious why you removed the signedoff tag on bug 1721148
12:25 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1721148 in Evergreen 3.1 "Web Client: In-House Use doesn't show status" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721148
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12:46 gsams Dyrcona: Oh weird, I was just on the page and everything looked right, but then refreshing it does show I removed it.
12:46 gsams Not my intention!
12:47 pinesol_green [evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1765731 - restore CN suffix and preffix in Holds Pull List - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a229588>
12:48 gsams I've fixed it, though I had to refresh the page again before it would let me.  That was odd.
12:49 Dyrcona Probably because I messed with targets on the bug. Launchpad can be odd at times.
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13:19 idjit kmlussier: RE bug 1743801: sorry! i managed to miss that first comment. thank you for clarifying. the only remaining issue (assuming the pullrequest is accepted) from the original report is the "Circ as type displays as MARC code". i'm looking into this, but not optimistic i'll fix it today. https://i.imgur.com/jH1LRM0.jpg
13:19 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1743801 in Evergreen 3.1 "web client: item status list view display issues" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743801
13:20 kmlussier idjit: Awesome! Thanks!
13:20 kmlussier idjit++
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13:30 idjit oh, unless you count the "true"/"false" vs "yes"/"no" fields to be an issue. as the code comments say, we could manually translate, but i don't know how to get translated strings in javascript. also don't know if this is a change we really want to make, since it effects more than this bug.
13:37 kmlussier idjit: Personally, I'm not too concerned about the true/false issue.
13:38 kmlussier One of the comments also mentioned the wrong value displaying for the holdable field, but I think that may be reported in another bug.
13:38 idjit checking...
13:39 kmlussier Yes, bug 1760662. That's been fixed.
13:39 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1760662 in Evergreen 3.1 "Item Status Detail View: Holdable field displays OPAC Visible value" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1760662
13:39 idjit works on my machine
13:40 idjit kmlussier++
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14:06 Dyrcona idjit; We're currently using TT2 templates to do the translations. That will change when we switch to Angular from AngularJS.
14:11 idjit so there isn't a convenient way to get translations in js right now? in that case, sounds like much easier to just keep the true/false strings as is.
14:16 miker idjit: you can do translations in js with egStrings. grep for that in the staff templates to see how to leverage TT2 for js transations, and then grep for the same in the staff angular code for how to access them in angular, erm, code :)
14:17 * bshum removed the spam from the logs from earlier this AM
14:17 gmcharlt bshum++
14:17 miker basically, js embedded in the html and processed by tt2 provides on-demand translated strings to the page by registering them in a central angular module. then, you access that angular module (service) from the app code to get at the registered strings via a key
14:20 idjit miker++ # thank you! i'm looking through the code now.
14:20 kmlussier bshum++
14:27 abneiman bshum++
14:28 csharp d05def6e
14:28 pinesol_green csharp: [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1739465 EDI consistent use of buyer org unit san - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d05def6>
14:40 dbs So I'm guessing OpenSRF master would be recommended for Evergreen 3.1 due to recent commits like http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=comm​itdiff;h=0c7f94abf5911cdf042c1162705e721a4fd2899f not being in the 3.0.0 release?
14:40 pinesol_green dbs: [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1744158 Websocket proc exits on ejabberd disconnect - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=0c7f94a>
14:40 csharp dbs: yes
14:40 csharp running without those is a PITA
14:41 dbs csharp++ # thanks
14:47 Dyrcona dbs csharp That commit is in OpenSRF rel_3_0
14:47 Dyrcona You don't have to use master to get it.
14:47 Dyrcona It's not in the release, that is true.
14:48 dbs uh, http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSR​F.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/rel_3_0 says that the tag for osrf_rel_3_0_0 is a few commits earlier
14:48 dbs Yeah. Sorry, I'm focused on the "pretend I'm following the instructions from /downloads about what version of OpenSRF to install"
14:49 Dyrcona Just check rel_3_0 out from git.
14:49 dbs *I* know that, but someone new won't
14:50 Dyrcona Maybe gmcharlt could be nudged to make a new release.
14:50 Dyrcona Sure, but they won't checkout master, either.
14:50 Dyrcona So, they'll be stuck with the bugs.
14:50 gmcharlt Dyrcona: it's on my list for tomorrow, in fact
14:50 Dyrcona gmcharlt++
14:50 dbs gmcharlt++
14:50 dbs Dyrcona: yeah, that's what I'm getting at.
14:51 Dyrcona Well, I'm responding to what you specifically said about OpenSRF master being recommended for Evergreen 3.1.
14:52 Dyrcona I'd recommend rel_3_0, though I doubt there is much difference.
14:52 Dyrcona Probably none.
14:52 dbs I consider the hairs well-split now
14:52 dbs and will vanish to focus on actually trying to run EG 3.1.1 again
14:54 Dyrcona :)
14:55 * Dyrcona prepares to push some more signedoff and tested branches.
14:57 kmlussier Dyrcona++
14:57 kmlussier gmcharlt++
15:00 pinesol_green [evergreen|gcollum] LP#1743782 Copy Status not available in Check-In Screen - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0eac25e>
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15:04 pinesol_green [evergreen|Garry Collum] LP#1745232 - Bill History Receipt doesn't have Finish Date - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fc25b34>
15:08 pinesol_green [evergreen|Garry Collum] LP#1745240: Hold Alias Missing from Hold Shelf Slip - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=510284d>
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15:27 idjit jeffdavis: what'd you do to test bug 1761276? i can't replicate. i've got patches for bugs 1761276 and 1724348, and suspect you may need them both.
15:27 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1761276 in Evergreen "Odd behaviour when clicking on title hyperlink " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761276
15:27 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1724348 in Evergreen "Web client: set default view not sticky" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724348
15:29 idjit sorry, that should've been be patches for bugs 1731272 and 1724348.
15:29 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1731272 in Evergreen "web client: "Set default view" breaks record page loading" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731272 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)
15:29 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1724348 in Evergreen "Web client: set default view not sticky" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724348
15:36 miker apropos of nothing, is anyone else getting odd messages from nickserv about their nick being registered, please choose another? (identifying worked, but it was strange)
15:36 miker ah, nevermind :)
15:36 miker global notice tells the tale
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15:40 jeffdavis idjit: It's intermittent so hard to replicate, I think it's more visible when record retrieval is slow. Maybe try clearing cache, then clicking the title hyperlink in record summary.
15:40 jeffdavis I am definitely interested in testing patches. :)
15:42 idjit jeffdavis: ok, i'll keep trying. cache gets cleared pretty frequently. i'll see about slowing the connection down. let me know if you figure out a repeatable test.
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15:42 jeffdavis csharp (aka Guest83209): you mentioned yesterday that you were seeing NOT CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK errors possibly related to retrieving XUL copy templates in the web client. Are you also seeing websockets processing stuck at 100% CPU?
15:44 pinesol_green [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1755220: Return value checking in offline session fetch - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=23719d9>
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15:46 bshum_ Well alright then freenode
15:47 jeffdavis s/websockets processing/websockets processes/
15:47 * Dyrcona wonders what is going on.
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16:27 cesardv bshum_: your name is now forever Guest80499, the IRC gods have spoken :)
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16:29 bts Or I could change myself to my alterego
16:29 bts And join the other three letter folk
16:29 * bts waves at dbs, eby, ejk, yar
16:30 cesardv their logins are faster... lol
16:30 cesardv bts: what's the "t" stand for?
16:31 bts cesardv: It's the first initial of my "middle" (chinese) name
16:31 cesardv ah... I was hoping "the man" :)
16:31 * idjit was hoping for "Tiberius"
16:31 berick idjit++
16:32 bts idjit++ # if only...
16:32 bts cesardv: For giggles:  http://irc.evergreen-ils.org​/evergreen/2013-06-21#i_6635
16:34 cesardv bts: lol awesome
16:37 bts cesardv: It looked cool for a few branches and then I nixed that idea locally before it went any farther.
16:37 bts But it was briefly amusing
16:38 cesardv yeah I imagine some encoding/display issues would eventually pop up and get annoying ><
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17:07 Bmagic Has anyone ran into Unique issues when their users_of_interest probe takes longer than a threshold and they receive a GATEWAY_TIMEOUT issue? I have tracked it down to a query that returns in 5 seconds and then executes a DB lookup per row inside of process_users_of_interest_results
17:07 Bmagic The while loop looks like it has a timeout set to 7200 (2 minutes?)
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17:09 Bmagic might be related to bug 1186324
17:09 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1186324 in Evergreen "Add upper limit to number of users returned by collections API calls" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1186324 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
17:12 jeff there's a different approach for large/bulk collections calls.
17:12 jeff there's an api call that kicks off a server-side task and then the client can poll for completeness then fetch the file when it's ready.
17:13 Bmagic That bug looks like it's editing users_of_interest_warning_penalty which isn't the call that they are making in this case
17:13 jeff yeah, we use penalty. i don't think i adjusted that branch to cover the wider use cases.
17:13 jeff it was early work in progress / soliciting other interested parties before fleshing out more. :-)
17:13 Bmagic This case is touching plain ol' users_of_interest
17:14 * jeff nods
17:14 Bmagic Are you recommending that I ask them to make a different call?
17:15 jeff if the current polling method is timing out due to number of matching patrons, you might consider. i think that PINES and/or EI use the "initiate then poll" method.
17:15 jeff I'm not recommending that you switch to the penalty method to solve this -- that's a little different overall.
17:15 jeff (and now that i think of it, i don't know if the penalty method is the only way to do the batch / poll-later method)
17:16 Bmagic the initial unfleshed set of patrons for my test case is 7100 patrons. Followed by 7100 DB look ups in process_users_of_interest_results which takes more than the 7200 threshold
17:16 jeff (sorry, on my way afk, so can't be more specific right now.)
17:16 Bmagic no worries! Thanks!
17:16 Bmagic jeff++
17:16 jeff hah, i'll bet it takes longer than 7200s :-)
17:16 Bmagic each one is reporting to take .004 seconds
17:17 Bmagic roughly
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18:32 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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