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News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: adding to 3.0.8 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2c47497> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: adding to 3.1.2 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9cefe21> |
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kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
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kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
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Dyrcona |
wifi-- |
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miker |
Dyrcona: like, in general? ;) |
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Dyrcona |
Nah, like my old access point in particular. |
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Dyrcona |
It flaked out on me again this morning. |
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miker |
single_points_of_failure-- |
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JBoyer |
1_year_limited_warranty-- |
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JBoyer |
Parting ways with a G Pixel soon. (I'm reminded by the flaky wifi discussion) |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Remington Steed] Docs: Fix two minor typos - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ae11a1c> |
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* miker |
recommends OnePlus if you want to stay out of the apple world |
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JBoyer |
I only had it for curiosity reasons; I'm quite happy with my iPhone 8. :) |
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Dyrcona |
Well, if you really want to a F/OSS diehard, there's OpenMoko.... :P |
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Dyrcona |
s/(to) (a)/\1 be \2/ |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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kmlussier |
I'm having trouble getting cross-references to display in browse search, both with and without the patch from bug 1741997. |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1741997 in Evergreen "additional browse improvements" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741997 |
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JBoyer |
Hard pass on the diehard aspect. |
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kmlussier |
I have linked authorities to each other, linked authorities to bib records, and used the authority.extract_headings function to verify that it shows the correct related headings. Am I missing something? |
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kmlussier |
Also, I have verified that the global flag to show related headings is enabled. |
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gmcharlt |
kmlussier: I can take another look at it, but not before early next week |
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kmlussier |
gmcharlt: Sure, that's fine, but I'm seeing this problem without the patch too, which makes me think it's another issue entirely or user error. |
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* kmlussier |
tries again on 3.0 where she clearly recalls seeing working cross references. |
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jeff |
I'll probably send a wider inquiry to the list later, but does anyone here know of resource sharing systems/collectives mediated by non-Evergreen software but with Evergreen libraries as participants? |
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jeff |
Examples would include MeLCat (running on INN-Reach with several Michigan libraries using Evergreen and participating via NCIP and non-NCIP methods); Indiana and Massachusetts both have Evergreen libraries using SHAREit (with/without NCIP?); Some additional INN-Reach systems in Missouri and Maine... |
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jeff |
Also findIT CT... |
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Dyrcona |
jeff: Maybe not what you're looking for but there is the Mass. Commonwealth Catalog: https://commonwealthcatalog.org/ |
| 12:34 |
Dyrcona |
Ah, see you mentioned it while I was looking up the URL. :) |
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jeff |
hehe |
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jeff |
I think that the COOL consortium in Ohio shares a parent organization with the OPAL consortium, and there's also the OhioLINK catalog, but I'm not sure their level of involvement in either. Thats probably a good one to follow up on. |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah. I heard that some group in Ohio is using Koha. |
| 12:42 |
jeff |
It doesn't look like lib-web-cats has significant coverage of "participates in this other resource sharing system". |
| 12:43 |
jeff |
(or lists the statewide/regional resource sharing systems themselves) |
| 12:53 |
jeff |
And I don't think that the products survey has garnered these kinds of answers before -- at least, none that I saw that weren't covered in the above examples. |
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Dyrcona |
Well, most of the surveys focus on actual libraries and consortia and not on union catalogs. |
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jeffdavis |
jeff: https://ill.bceln.ca/ is a province-wide resource sharing system. Sitka exports MARC records with holdings for their union catalogue and they do live lookups against EG via Z39.50. Is that the kind of thing you're looking for? |
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jeffdavis |
(And half the public libraries in BC do resource sharing within EG.) |
| 13:09 |
jeff |
jeffdavis: exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for -- thanks! |
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jeffdavis |
bug 1761276 could use some eyeballs attached to an Angular-savvy brain, I'm not getting anywhere with it :( |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1761276 in Evergreen "Odd behaviour when clicking on title hyperlink " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761276 |
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jeffdavis |
eg-embed-frame loads the default page (web client splash page) in the iframe before loading OPAC record details page, it can linger on the splash page for awhile if the OPAC takes a few seconds to load which is quite confusing for users |
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jeffdavis |
this may be more obvious on a system with a large number of records |
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dbs |
jeff: Conifer participates in RACER (https://racer.scholarsportal.info/) which runs on OCLC VDX |
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jeff |
JBoyer++ Dyrcona++ jeffdavis++ dbs++ thanks! |
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miker |
hey all, EOB meeting starting momentarily |
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* kmlussier |
nearly forgot it was EOB day. |
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terran |
Oh good, thought I was going to be late |
| 14:05 |
miker |
#startmeeting |
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pinesol_green |
miker: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' |
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miker |
er |
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csharp |
you can't just start *any* old meeting, apparently :-) |
| 14:06 |
miker |
#startmeeting EOB meeting, 2018-05-17 |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting started Thu May 17 14:06:30 2018 US/Eastern. The chair is miker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:06 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'eob_meeting__2018_05_17' |
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miker |
csharp: I can tryI |
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miker |
#topic roll call |
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hbrennan |
#info hbrennan is Holly Brennan, Homer Public Library, Alaska |
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terran |
#info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 14:07 |
miker |
Use the #info command stating name and affiliation |
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rgagnon |
#info rgagnon is Ron Gagnon, NOBLE |
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collum |
#info collum is Garry Collum, KCPL |
| 14:07 |
miker |
#info miker == Mike Rylander, EOLI |
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hbrennan |
wish I had a cool acronym... |
| 14:09 |
miker |
other folks can join as they show up |
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JBoyer |
#info JBoyer is Jason Boyer, Indiana State Library |
| 14:09 |
miker |
or now! |
| 14:09 |
JBoyer |
(agoben is unavailable today) |
| 14:09 |
miker |
thanks |
| 14:09 |
miker |
we have a quorum |
| 14:09 |
miker |
#topic Approval of minutes |
| 14:10 |
miker |
#info Minutes from 4/30 meeting: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:eob-minutes-2018-04-30 |
| 14:10 |
miker |
Any updates/corrections/objections? |
| 14:10 |
miker |
or a motion to accept? |
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rgagnon |
Move to accept. |
| 14:10 |
JBoyer |
Seconded |
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miker |
#info rgagnon moved to accept the minutes, JBoyer seconded |
| 14:11 |
miker |
#vote Accept minutes for 2018-04-30 in-person meeting at the Evergreen conference |
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JBoyer |
maybe startvote. :) |
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miker |
indeed. was looking for my cheet sheet... |
| 14:11 |
miker |
#startvote Accept minutes for 2018-04-30 in-person meeting at the Evergreen conference |
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pinesol_green |
Unable to parse vote topic and options. |
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miker |
sorry, all. sec |
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miker |
kmlussier++ |
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miker |
#startvote Accept minutes for 2018-04-30 in-person meeting at the Evergreen conference? yes, no |
| 14:13 |
pinesol_green |
Begin voting on: Accept minutes for 2018-04-30 in-person meeting at the Evergreen conference? Valid vote options are yes, no. |
| 14:13 |
pinesol_green |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:13 |
JBoyer |
The docs are not good for quick reference... |
| 14:13 |
rgagnon |
#vote Yes |
| 14:13 |
terran |
#vote Yes |
| 14:13 |
JBoyer |
#vote yes |
| 14:13 |
miker |
#vote yes |
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collum |
#vote yes |
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ScottThomas |
#vote yes |
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hbrennan |
#vote Yes |
| 14:13 |
miker |
#endvote |
| 14:13 |
pinesol_green |
Voted on "Accept minutes for 2018-04-30 in-person meeting at the Evergreen conference?" Results are |
| 14:13 |
pinesol_green |
yes (7): rgagnon, JBoyer, miker, collum, ScottThomas, terran, hbrennan |
| 14:14 |
miker |
moving right along |
| 14:14 |
miker |
#topic Chair report |
| 14:14 |
miker |
#info Work is ongoing to draft an agreement for MOBIUS and SFC, so that MOBIUS can act as the contract agent. We agree on the goals and the last details are being addressed now. It is currently in SFC's hands. |
| 14:14 |
miker |
I've been doing this over email with Karen, and we have been CC'ing the SFC Evergreen list for archiving. All EOB members should be seeing the emails, but if you're not, please let me know! |
| 14:14 |
miker |
Questions about the converstation so far? |
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ScottThomas |
I am not seeing them. |
| 14:15 |
hbrennan |
Same. I haven't received anything since the conference |
| 14:16 |
miker |
ScottThomas: I'll confirm you're on the list, and that my assumption about it is correct. hbrennan, same. |
| 14:16 |
miker |
it may be an archive-only list by default. if so, I'll get the coords for that and share. |
| 14:17 |
ScottThomas |
Has MOBIUS seen the draft of the agreement? |
| 14:17 |
miker |
tl;dr: there was a little confusion about MOBIUS' role, now clarified |
| 14:17 |
miker |
ScottThomas: not yet, I did not want to extend the negotiation period with foundational misunderstandings |
| 14:18 |
miker |
to whit, they were expecting MOBIUS to do everything, rather than simply be the contract signor and initial revenue collector |
| 14:18 |
miker |
but that's clarified now |
| 14:19 |
miker |
terran: the "licensing" question is largely handled as well |
| 14:19 |
terran |
Good. |
| 14:19 |
ScottThomas |
Valley Forge contract signing deadline is tomorrow. It will be nice if we can get it done by tomorrow. If not I will hold off Valley Forget is they contact me. |
| 14:19 |
miker |
(there was a rather large fee included for MOBIUS to license the EG trademark) |
| 14:20 |
miker |
ScottThomas: I am holding out hope |
| 14:21 |
miker |
I'll, of course, CC the EOB list when I send it over to Donna at MOBIUS |
| 14:22 |
miker |
any other questions or concerns at this time? |
| 14:22 |
miker |
moving on, then! |
| 14:22 |
miker |
#topic Financial report |
| 14:22 |
miker |
#info new report: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:financials:update_2018_05_17 |
| 14:23 |
miker |
SFC has not completed the reconciliation post-conference |
| 14:23 |
miker |
so expect that to change over the next month or two |
| 14:24 |
miker |
but there are changes |
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miker |
gmcharlt: anything of note that you spotted running the report? |
| 14:25 |
gmcharlt |
miker: the main thing that jumped out at me is that the reconciliation for the 2017 conference is also not yet complete |
| 14:25 |
miker |
mmm |
| 14:25 |
terran |
smh |
| 14:25 |
gmcharlt |
e.g., there's an invoice for about $50K that's in the SFC repository in PDF form and showing as paid, but the ledger does not reflect that |
| 14:26 |
miker |
I will ask Amy to inquire about that, and ETA on the 2018 reconciliation as well. |
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| 14:27 |
miker |
gmcharlt: thank you |
| 14:27 |
miker |
#action Mike Rylander to coordinate with Amy Terlaga re SFC reconciliation of 2017 conference financials |
| 14:28 |
miker |
I don't have more on that until we here from SFC, then. anyone else? |
| 14:29 |
miker |
silence is assent! moving on |
| 14:29 |
miker |
#topic SFC Updates (Amy Terlaga) |
| 14:29 |
miker |
I don't see Amy around, however. and we've covered a good bit of SFC already |
| 14:30 |
miker |
#info No general update |
| 14:30 |
miker |
#topic Release Manager (Bill Erickson) |
| 14:30 |
miker |
berick: are you handy, and do you want the floor? |
| 14:32 |
miker |
I'll call that a "no" |
| 14:32 |
miker |
#topic 2018 Conference Committee -- any remaining business? |
| 14:33 |
miker |
anyone on the 2018 committee have any straggling updates? Bmagic, or others? |
| 14:33 |
terran |
I'm looking forward to seeing the survey results - I thought it was a good conference. |
| 14:33 |
collum |
Ditto |
| 14:33 |
ScottThomas |
Agreed |
| 14:33 |
miker |
terran: do you recally the end date for the survey? |
| 14:34 |
terran |
I don't, I'm sorry |
| 14:34 |
miker |
no worries |
| 14:34 |
terran |
Amy and Debbie were handling all of that |
| 14:34 |
miker |
ah, thanks! |
| 14:35 |
hbrennan |
It's still open today |
| 14:35 |
miker |
with that, I offer a final "thank you!" to our hosts in 2018! |
| 14:35 |
terran |
hear, hear! |
| 14:35 |
miker |
which brings us to... |
| 14:35 |
miker |
#topic 2019 Conference Committee (Scott Thomas) |
| 14:35 |
miker |
ScottThomas: the floor is yours |
| 14:36 |
ScottThomas |
As I said earlier we are waiting for the contract to be signed. |
| 14:36 |
ScottThomas |
The venue is pretty insistent. Once that is done, we start getting the timeline together |
| 14:36 |
ScottThomas |
My board met yesterday and is offering a lot of support. |
| 14:37 |
miker |
PaILS++ |
| 14:37 |
terran |
PaILS++ ScottThomas++ |
| 14:37 |
miker |
ScottThomas++ #indeed |
| 14:37 |
rgagnon |
ScottThomas++ |
| 14:38 |
miker |
leaving that in a (hopefully short) holding pattern... |
| 14:38 |
miker |
#topic Outreach Committee (Kathy Lussier) |
| 14:38 |
miker |
kmlussier: anything to discuss? ala plans, perhaps? |
| 14:39 |
kmlussier |
Oops sorry. |
| 14:39 |
kmlussier |
I don't have anything to report at the moment. I would like to get a report together on merchandise sales, and I'll send that out to the EBO list once that is complete. |
| 14:40 |
miker |
awesome, thanks! do you have a sense on the sales? did we run out of anything? |
| 14:40 |
kmlussier |
miker: We didn't run out of anything. |
| 14:41 |
miker |
silver lining: we have more stuff to sell! |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
I didn't work the table, so it's hard to know, but I feel like t-shirt sales were lower than they were last year. The bottle openers sold well. |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
ALA program is at 4 p.m. on Saturday, June 23 - https://www.eventscribe.com/2018/ALA-Annual/fsPopup.asp?Mode=presInfo&PresentationID=381387 |
| 14:41 |
JBoyer |
I know there was no-pin angst, but I realize they can be pricy. |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
If anyone is planning to attend ALA, please let me know as I am still assembling the panel. |
| 14:41 |
hbrennan |
Nice title |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
JBoyer: The conference pins? They didn't sell very well last year. |
| 14:42 |
kmlussier |
And any merchandise with a conference theme is hard to sell once the conference is over, unfortunately. |
| 14:42 |
rgagnon |
Someone was looking for the generic Evergreen pins. |
| 14:42 |
JBoyer |
Completely understandable, yes. :) |
| 14:42 |
miker |
I wonder if we should consider building that into the price of admission |
| 14:42 |
rfrasur_ |
The generic pins were created by bshum independently. |
| 14:42 |
kmlussier |
rgagnon: Yes, I think it's something that we might consider. The original conference pins weren't a merchandise thing. |
| 14:43 |
terran |
Did the process of ordering the t-shirts ahead of time go smoothly? It worked great as a buyer. |
| 14:43 |
kmlussier |
I think it was bshum and rhamby |
| 14:43 |
kmlussier |
terran: Yes, I think it did. |
| 14:43 |
kmlussier |
IMO, we should always do pre-sales for anything with a conference theme. |
| 14:43 |
rhamby |
Correct bshum and I did the generic pins. |
| 14:44 |
rfrasur_ |
Yes, it did. And the conservancy and Amy really made getting the t-shirts ordered easy...and Kathy (and sorry Rhamby about not mentioning you with the pins) |
| 14:45 |
rhamby |
Just to note that the gneeric pins have historically not been 'merchandise' bshum and I bought them and gave them away to those interested in them |
| 14:45 |
miker |
so, are year-branded pins something to ask the standing and local committees to consider in pricing attendance? |
| 14:45 |
hbrennan |
^that's how I received mine |
| 14:45 |
miker |
me too :) |
| 14:45 |
miker |
rhamby++ |
| 14:46 |
miker |
bshum++ |
| 14:46 |
rfrasur_ |
miker, they were pretty expensive for Covington. I think the only way they'd be feasible is to do a preorder like the conference t-shirt. |
| 14:46 |
JBoyer |
If there's enough interest that would be a good way to do it without ending up with a ton of leftover stock. |
| 14:47 |
miker |
rfrasur_: not as a built in part of the cost, and everyone that comes gets on? I don't have a good sense of what they might cost... $5/per? $10/per? |
| 14:47 |
rhamby |
note that the minimum order of pins for quantity is usually 100 while tshirts have much lower thresholds |
| 14:48 |
rfrasur_ |
miker, I guess they could be built in, but I suspect there'd be people that didn't want a pin and wondered why they couldn't opt out. |
| 14:48 |
kmlussier |
I'm not a big fan of building it into the conference cost. |
| 14:48 |
JBoyer |
Do we want to leave this for the committees to hash out? ;) |
| 14:48 |
kmlussier |
If people thought the pins were worth the cost, they would buy it. If we build it into the fee, aren't we forcing them to buy it? |
| 14:48 |
miker |
JBoyer: aye, we do. just stirring the pot looking for interest |
| 14:48 |
terran |
I like the idea of having it as part of the conference cost because then my agency buys it for me instead of me paying for it out of pocket :D |
| 14:49 |
miker |
kmlussier: or it's a perk. :) but, yes, to the committees! |
| 14:49 |
rhamby |
the cost of the covington pins was $3.15 each |
| 14:49 |
* kmlussier |
repeats here please for letting me know if you plan to attend ALA, in case it got missed in the pin discussion. :) |
| 14:49 |
miker |
rhamby: ah, that's much less than I expected... |
| 14:50 |
kmlussier |
Sorry, 'repeats her plea' |
| 14:50 |
miker |
#info please let kmlussier know if you will be attending ALA! |
| 14:50 |
terran |
kmlussier: I'm not going to be able to attend ala this year |
| 14:50 |
miker |
#info ALA program is at 4 p.m. on Saturday, June 23 - https://www.eventscribe.com/2018/ALA-Annual/fsPopup.asp?Mode=presInfo&PresentationID=381387 |
| 14:51 |
miker |
with pins committee'd ... |
| 14:51 |
miker |
Forward to old and new business! |
| 14:51 |
miker |
#topic Old business |
| 14:51 |
miker |
#info By-laws discussion slowed down with consensus on most items. |
| 14:51 |
miker |
I'm still working on the document back to MOBIUS lawyers, sorry for the delay. Working to get that to them this week, but it's less pressing than the MOBIUS/SFC conference agreement. |
| 14:51 |
miker |
I'll open up the floor to discussion on the by-laws, if anyone has had further thoughts since the email threads last week. |
| 14:52 |
hbrennan |
Everything I was concerned about has since been addressed |
| 14:52 |
terran |
Likewise |
| 14:52 |
collum |
Same here. |
| 14:53 |
rgagnon |
Same here as well |
| 14:53 |
JBoyer |
agreed. |
| 14:53 |
miker |
thank you all for you input. I, too, feel very good about where we are now! |
| 14:53 |
terran |
miker++ |
| 14:53 |
collum |
miker++ |
| 14:53 |
rgagnon |
miker++ |
| 14:53 |
ScottThomas |
miker++ |
| 14:54 |
miker |
#agreed consensus reached on by-laws, draft to be returned to MOBIUS lawyers ASAP |
| 14:54 |
miker |
more old biz |
| 14:54 |
miker |
#topic Search for an EG lawyer |
| 14:54 |
miker |
#info Mike Rylander offered to start the search by asking EOLI counsel for recommendations |
| 14:54 |
miker |
#info No specific recommendation of a firm or individual available, however, "My recommendation is to go to martindale.com and search for Missouri lawyers in the Nonprofit practice area who have an AV rating and a 5-star rating. You can also go to lawyer.com for an expanded database." |
| 14:55 |
miker |
Assuming that recommendation meets with EOB approval, would anyone like to lead or assist with that search and review? I'll take it on if not, but I don't want to be the blocker to forward progress. |
| 14:57 |
miker |
and this search is not strickly tied to our incorporation or(especially) our exempt status -- we can certainly interview lawyers now |
| 14:59 |
hbrennan |
(I'm hopping up to the circ desk for a shift now, so apologies in advance for any delayed responses) |
| 15:01 |
miker |
how about I'll start a list of likely victims^Wcandidates and send to the EOB list for investingation? we can see where to go from there based on initial martindale.com research |
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| 15:01 |
JBoyer |
Sounds like a good start. |
| 15:01 |
collum |
Sounds good. |
| 15:01 |
terran |
Yes, agreed. |
| 15:02 |
rgagnon |
Agreed |
| 15:02 |
hbrennan |
+1 |
| 15:02 |
miker |
ok. it'll be late next week before I can start in earnest. I want to see how much background we can find on our own before getting on the phone |
| 15:03 |
miker |
#action Mike Rylander to collect a list of potenial lawyers to represent the eventual EG corporation for broader research |
| 15:03 |
miker |
that's all my old business. anyone have something I miss that is pressing? |
| 15:04 |
miker |
perfect. in that case... |
| 15:04 |
miker |
#topic New Business |
| 15:04 |
miker |
of which I have none. the floor is open, however. |
| 15:04 |
miker |
anyone have new business to raise? |
| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
None here. |
| 15:05 |
terran |
Nor here. |
| 15:05 |
miker |
going once... |
| 15:05 |
miker |
...twice... |
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* JBoyer |
resists making an auction joke again |
| 15:06 |
miker |
sold! to the EOB member in the back that motions for adjournment! |
| 15:06 |
miker |
JBoyer: I got you |
| 15:06 |
rgagnon |
Move to adjourn |
| 15:06 |
hbrennan |
:) |
| 15:06 |
terran |
second |
| 15:07 |
miker |
I'm calling the ball |
| 15:07 |
miker |
thanks all! |
| 15:07 |
miker |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Thu May 17 15:07:16 2018 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:07 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2018/evergreen.2018-05-17-14.06.html |
| 15:07 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2018/evergreen.2018-05-17-14.06.txt |
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pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2018/evergreen.2018-05-17-14.06.log.html |
| 15:07 |
terran |
Thanks everyone! |
| 15:07 |
JBoyer |
miker++ |
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kmlussier |
miker++ |
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collum |
miker++ |
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rgagnon |
miker++ |
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hbrennan |
miker++ |
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terran |
miker++ |
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ScottThomas |
miker__ |
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ScottThomas |
miker++ |
| 15:08 |
ScottThomas |
Sorry |
| 15:08 |
miker |
ScottThomas: I thought you were just giving me a tail :) |
| 15:09 |
miker |
see you all next month... |
| 15:10 |
miker |
and now I know the secret to karma boosting -- run meetings! |
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kmlussier |
miker: Think of all those dev meetings you could have run over the years. :) |
| 15:19 |
miker |
heh |
| 15:20 |
JBoyer |
commit; |
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JBoyer |
ooooops. |
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gmcharlt |
JBoyer: too late... you cannot rollback the meeting! |
| 15:25 |
gmcharlt |
;) |
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JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
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kmlussier |
So many meetings that I wish I could have rolled back. |
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Dyrcona |
git reset --hard meeting |
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Dyrcona |
'Course that rolls back to the meeting. :) |
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jeffdavis |
Execution time: 108530.532 ms <- seems a little extreme even for a broad search |
| 19:41 |
jeffdavis |
that's for a keyword search for "canada" scoped to a single library, https://explain.depesz.com/s/vuWS |
| 20:03 |
jeff |
hrm. |
| 20:04 |
jeff |
jeffdavis: any chance you have the query associated with that? |
| 20:07 |
jeff |
jeffdavis: and, if so... can you generate explain output for the CTE "w"? that seems to be the bulk of your time in the explain you linked. |
| 20:24 |
jeff |
oh, right. |
| 20:30 |
jeff |
(i thought that the CTE Scan on line 85 was not actually showing any of the plan for the CTE. pretty sure that's the CTE w on line 2) :-) |
| 20:41 |
jeff |
jeffdavis: looks like the two bitmap heap scans (one on keyword_field_entry and one on subject_field_entry) are reading ~ 5 GB of pages -- hopefully from RAM and not disk, but maybe this is on an underpowered host or needs tuning? |
| 20:45 |
jeff |
hrm. almost 10 GB if you include the others, though that's two scans of keyword_field_entry. |
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pastebot |
"jeffdavis" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "slow search query" (93 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/4814 |
