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06:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:56 csharp after a recent re-install of master on my testing server, I'm seeing several instances of this issue: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41281515​/possibly-unhandled-rejection-in-angular-1-6 and things like the "Item Status" view aren't loading
08:57 csharp since I don't hear anyone else talking about it, I'm wondering if it's just me, but my test server is kind of dead in the water until I resolve this
08:57 csharp from the symptoms, it looks like issues common to upgrading to angular 1.6
09:01 csharp hmm - normally I wouldn't celebrate something like this, but I just hit a white screen - hooray!
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09:06 JBoyer csharp, Maybe we'll have to start pinning Angular versions to get semi-stable installations? :/
09:07 JBoyer Doesn't help you today, unfortunately, but it seems safer than having an install work today and break today + 1.v
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09:10 JBoyer Although now that I look at it I think we already do. (we're using 1.6.7, possibly higher?)
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09:35 Dyrcona I think pinning versions might be more important with Angular than it is with AngularJS.
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10:12 Dyrcona So, I'm trying to make a custom view to summarize how much a patron owes by organization unit.
10:13 JBoyer That last bit must be fun.
10:13 jeff heh. i don't remember if it will be possible without mmpbbt, which is likely in need of some more attention before it can go into 3.2.
10:13 Dyrcona JBoyer: Yeah....
10:13 jeff (see what I did there?)
10:14 Dyrcona jeff: I think it's possible. The trick is assigning lost fees to the library that owns the copy.
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10:15 Dyrcona Kind of a merge of money.open_usr_summary and money.billable_xact_summary_location_view.
10:16 JBoyer One of the things I've had in the back of my mind re: overhauling money.* was assigning a priority and context to billing reasons. (priority for "these bills have to be paid first, like collections fees; and contexts for who the billing ou: item or transaction)
10:17 jeff i don't think we have a concept here of "these need to be paid first"
10:20 Dyrcona Well, when I rewrote billing, it would pay larger bills first, assuming those were more "important." I haven't looked to see if dbwells kept that feature.
10:20 JBoyer Some libraries that use collection agencies like to apply payments to those bills first since they're being billed for the services for that patron. It's not strictly necessary, but I can see the point.
10:21 jeff JBoyer: Not sure I follow the logic as you described it.
10:22 jeff Dyrcona: thanks for reminding me, that's on my list of things that need my attention as I try to determine if we're able to use stock billing code after our upgrade.
10:23 jeff (attributing payments out of order was something that did not at all mesh with how we wanted to do things)
10:23 Dyrcona What JBoyer said makes sense to me.
10:23 JBoyer Overdue fines are a punitive things applied to late transactions and don't represent an actual expense or anything, but lost bills are more important because now you have to replace an item, and collection fees are an actual expense already paid by the library to begin collection services against the user.
10:23 JBoyer So first you pay back the ~$10 we've spent on you, then you pay back the book(s) you lost, then we'll get to the quarters.
10:23 jeff JBoyer: is the idea that you're more likely to forgive one than the other?
10:24 JBoyer That's also possible.
10:24 JBoyer Legally speaking it's really easy to write off overdues, it's a lot more work to waive lost fees, etc.
10:24 mmorgan Paying off lost billings first will also affect patron penalties.
10:24 jeff Interesting. I'll ask some questions here.
10:25 JBoyer (Legally speaking in IN, obviously. ymmv.)
10:25 * jeff nods
10:25 mmorgan If libraries block for lost items, it makes sense to resolve the lost fees first.
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11:19 Dyrcona JBoyer | jeff: Turns out to be easy enough for my purposes: https://pastebin.com/per3f5QY
11:24 JBoyer Dyrcona, that looks like that may be pretty handy. I was thinking about the last time someone asked about incoming payments for overdue vs lost which I absolutely hated.
11:43 csharp JBoyer: I can confirm that your FF branch works fine (using web-ext) on my Fedora workstation - planning to test Windows in a VM next
11:44 JBoyer Woo.
11:44 JBoyer I can also toss out some anecdata that Hatch works fine with Java 10 since I forgot I had it installed on my laptop while fighting with this.
11:45 csharp good
11:54 JBoyer A quick FYI about Chrome and this version of the Hatch extension. Firefox doesn't complain about the unknown 'minimum_chrome_version' key, but in dev mode Chrome shows a warning about the unknown 'applications' key. So long as it doesn't cause a problem when uploaded to the web store it should be no problem, it worked fine for me otherwise.
11:55 JBoyer (And I think the ERRORS link only appears in dev mode, even though it's only a warning.)
11:59 JBoyer berick, you may be interested in the above if you're the one that uploads the next version of the Chrome extension.
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12:03 berick JBoyer: noted, thanks
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14:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1766712: Add Scrollbar to Patron Search Permission Group Field - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=06fda6a>
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16:02 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1740537 Transit dialog showing wrong branch - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0b3b42b>
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