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01:16 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org
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06:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:04 dbs bshum++
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10:06 csharp dbs: missed you at the conference!
10:07 * csharp counted only one representive from Canadia
10:07 csharp The Republic of Canadia
10:11 miker csharp: there was j pringle, and also a goodly sized group from Niagara
10:12 csharp miker: oh - great - I missed them
10:13 miker Niagara Public, that is.  there's also the LINC consortium (academic), but I don't recall OTTOMH if they sent someone
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10:57 jvwoolf Is there any documentation anywhere about what the Y blocks in the 64 response for SIP correspond to?
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11:13 bshum jvwoolf: I thought yes, but when checking the sip_support page it doesn't really explain what it means
11:13 bshum Looking at other SIP2.0 documentation out in the wild, I think I see a potential answer on a voyager explanation of 3M's SIP2 protocol
11:13 bshum It says like the first four Y would mean like:
11:14 bshum 0=Charge privileges denied.
11:14 bshum 1=Renewal privileges denied.
11:14 bshum 2=Recall privileges denied.
11:14 bshum 3=Hold privileges denied.
11:14 bshum So, basically, they aren't allowed to checkout or have holds
11:14 bshum aka, "blocked"
11:14 bshum There are 14 types in the "standard", though how vendors react to those entries might differ
11:25 jvwoolf bshum: Thanks
11:26 jvwoolf We have a patron with a block in the second position and the only thing on their record is a claims returned.
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11:43 bshum Hmm, well in one example on the wiki https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=ev​ergreen-admin:sip_support#patron_information
11:44 bshum I see that the third position seems to get set to Y when the patron's password was wrong
11:44 bshum So I wonder if it'll set the Y in other ways if there is other kinds of bad info
11:44 bshum Probably bug jeff / Dyrcona / etc. (though I think they're on planes heading home today atm)
11:46 jvwoolf Thanks
11:46 jvwoolf bshum++
11:46 jvwoolf For now, I sent OverDrive another barcode with a claims returned on it to see if it has a block in the same position.
11:48 bshum I wouldn't have thought claims returned to do weird blocking
11:48 bshum But hmm
11:49 jvwoolf You'd think it would come up more
11:53 jaswinder Hey Guys, I want to make an ajax to an api from ebook to do checkout, place hold, etc. How do the system current makes and ajax call? Is there doc on that?
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11:56 bshum jaswinder: Hey there!  So I've seen you ask that question a couple times now.  Just FYI for you that a bunch of folks might still be traveling today heading back from the Evergreen conference earlier this week.
11:56 bshum I don't know the answer to that particular question, unfortunately.
12:06 jaswinder bshum: thanks for sharing. Yes, I heard about that conference
12:13 miker csharp++
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12:46 jeff almost home. i will feel much better once i have a seat number.
12:48 miker jeff: standby, or just back-of-the-plane, assigned-at-the-desk ticket
12:48 miker ?
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13:16 jeff miker: the latter, it turns out. wasn't sure, though. small planes, almost always full when i'm flying.
13:16 jeff miker: but i havw  seat number now, so yay.
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14:05 jeff miker: very. back. of. plane.
14:05 jeff miker: but comfortable seat, so we'll not be picky. :-)
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14:53 jeffdavis Is the order of fields in fm_IDL.xml expected to be significant? I tried adding a field in the middle of the list on actor::user and it broke the user permission editor, but adding my new field to the end of the list seems to prevent the breakage.
14:57 jeffdavis user_edit_xhtml.js complained that user.card().barcode() is not a function; dumping user.card() to console showed that it was actually an aua object not ac
15:01 phasefx jeffdavis: yes, it is.  In most contexts fieldmapper is about mapping field names to array positions.  Try running autogen?
15:03 miker s/most/all/ :)
15:04 * phasefx was hedging his bets
15:04 miker for fieldmapper specifically, we use array-based object representations for space savings
15:04 phasefx but you do have stuff like controllers defined there, permissions, relationships
15:05 miker but opensrf can (and does) register classes that are represented as hashes. scalars are supported, too, but I don't think any are registered in "real" code
15:06 miker phasefx: indeed, there's more there than just opensrf wire-protocol class registrations
15:06 miker phasefx++
15:06 * jeffdavis slaps forehead ... autogen solves the problem
15:06 jeffdavis thank you both
15:07 miker jeffdavis: yep, that and a service restart
15:07 phasefx you're welcome
15:08 jeffdavis phasefx++
15:08 jeffdavis miker++
15:08 jeffdavis gotta get those scores back up now that karma has been reset
15:08 miker jeffdavis++ # KARMA!!!
15:09 jeffdavis :)
15:09 phasefx mutual increment society :D
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16:28 csharp @karma
16:28 pinesol_green csharp: Highest karma: "bshum" (2), "phasefx" (2), "evergreen" (1), "csharp" (1), and "miker" (1).  Lowest karma: "evergreen" (1), "csharp" (1), "miker" (1), "jeffdavis" (1), and "bshum" (2).  You (csharp) are ranked 3 out of 6.
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18:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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