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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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phasefx |
kmlussier: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/makerspace-books |
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kmlussier |
Ooh! Thanks phasefx! |
| 10:02 |
phasefx |
welcome |
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ngf42 |
phasefx++ |
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phasefx |
hey ngf42, who are you? :) anonymous is an acceptable answer, just curious |
| 10:19 |
ngf42 |
a lurker with an appreciation for cat pictures :-) https://i.imgur.com/ydmUht6.gifv |
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phasefx |
you fit right in then :D |
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kmlussier |
We need more dog pictures. https://i.imgur.com/HbXAJoQ.gifv |
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ngf42 |
https://i.imgur.com/zdRnMfD.gifv |
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rjackson_isl |
kmlussier - looks like that dog is asking if it eats the cat will it be in trouble? |
| 10:47 |
kmlussier |
rjackson_isl: Yeah, my dog gets the same look whenever the cat is mean to her. |
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rjackson_isl |
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alynn26 |
Has anyone had issues with HATCH on 32 bit machines, we have had several complaints about it not working as expected. Printers not showing up and such. Any help I can send forward would help. |
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JBoyer |
I'm starting to think that Oracle has done something stupid. if they're not able to run both of these commands from the command prompt that's probably it: |
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JBoyer |
java -version |
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JBoyer |
java --version |
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JBoyer |
If only one or the other works then we have to come up with another way to check for where Java is installed. |
| 11:08 |
bshum |
alynn26: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2018-01-12#i_341316 terran and others noted 32-bit hatch issues earlier in the year |
| 11:08 |
Dyrcona |
Well, that's more or less what Oracle recommends. |
| 11:08 |
bshum |
Probably they and others might know more |
| 11:08 |
jeff |
JBoyer: where is "java --version" expected to work? |
| 11:09 |
jeff |
that's my usual typo before I remember "oh, right. it's -version" |
| 11:09 |
JBoyer |
I don't remember which is which at the moment, but one version outputs to stdout, the other to stderr. |
| 11:10 |
JBoyer |
Though apparently not on every modern-ish version of Java. :/ |
| 11:11 |
jeff |
JBoyer: ah, in my experience they both output to stderr, it's just that one of them is outputting... just an error. :-) |
| 11:12 |
jeff |
maybe something new with java 9. |
| 11:13 |
JBoyer |
Shouldn't be, I know I tested 9 for detection, but I've seen this all work with 8, though possibly only on 64 bit machines. |
| 11:13 |
jeff |
the new "rapid cadence" and "adding a new version scheme" are sure to simplify things. |
| 11:14 |
Dyrcona |
@blame Oracle |
| 11:14 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Your failure is now complete, Oracle. |
| 11:14 |
JBoyer |
Apparently we also need to find someone to bring a 32-bit windows machine to the conference in addition to a Dymo printer, board games, and a partridge in a pear tree... |
| 11:15 |
alynn26 |
JBoyer++ |
| 11:15 |
jeff |
one of these things is not like the other... |
| 11:15 |
jeff |
one of these things... can be virtualized. |
| 11:18 |
JBoyer |
I have played many board games on a screen, yes. :D |
| 11:18 |
Dyrcona |
Risk! |
| 11:20 |
alynn26 |
I am not a spy. |
| 11:21 |
alynn26 |
off to set up a 32 bit windows 7 machine, to do some testing. |
| 11:21 |
JBoyer |
alynn26++ |
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Dyrcona |
Are we having the developers' IRC meeting later today? |
| 11:41 |
gmcharlt |
I would like to have one; I can send a reminder shortly |
| 11:41 |
Dyrcona |
I will likely miss much of it. I have another meeting scheduled for 3:00 PM, but that one may be short. |
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bshum |
dojo-- # shakes his fist at it |
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bshum |
cake++ |
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bos20k |
dojo-- # grrr |
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dbs |
old_dojo-- |
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dbs |
https://dojo.io/blog/ "Dojo 2 Release Candidate 1 is now available!" as of March 11, 2018 |
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dbs |
So let's be fair to Dojo, it's not their fault we're using a 10+ year old version of their code |
| 13:15 |
kmlussier |
@karma cake |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: Karma for "cake" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 13:34 |
JBoyer |
jeff, It's of little consequence but I remembered something useful re: java and --version. Even though it outputs to stderr it returns success (0) to the OS. That's why it's helpful in the Hatch launcher. I was trying to avoid stdout redirection because I don't trust the Windows console subsystem. |
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JBoyer |
(instead I trusted Oracle, ooops.) |
| 13:45 |
jeffdavis |
I took the liberty of creating an agenda for today's developer meeting: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2018-04-04 |
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kmlussier |
jeffdavis++ |
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Jaswinder |
Hey Guys, where are the routes listed for evergreen? I need to host a page and setup a route for that |
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remingtron |
Jaswinder: are you talking about the web client? |
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JBoyer |
Jaswinder, if you're referring to the Angular routes for the web client, they're kept in the JS files at Open-ILS/web/js/ui/default/staff/... and the templates are in Open-ILS/src/templates/staff/... |
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Jaswinder |
yes, the web client |
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Jaswinder |
is that app.js I need to modify? |
| 14:16 |
dbwells |
Jaswinder: The web client isn't a typical routed app per se, but a whole collection of smaller apps bolted onto a more traditional filesystem-based core. |
| 14:16 |
dbwells |
Each of these apps has their own collection of routes. |
| 14:19 |
dbwells |
If you are trying to add a new "screen", you may need to add a new app altogether, or figure out which app it fits into and extend from there. |
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dbwells |
A search for "app.js" across the codebase can give you a good sense of all the available existing apps. |
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Dyrcona |
find Open-ILS/web/js/ui/default/staff -name app.js |
| 14:39 |
gmcharlt |
agenda for the dev meeting in 20 minutes: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2018-04-04 |
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jeffdavis |
kmlussier: you had started work on a branch for bug 1735808, did that get any further? |
| 14:55 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1735808 in Evergreen "web client: use defined list of column picker options" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735808 - Assigned to Kathy Lussier (klussier) |
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* kmlussier |
scowls at that bug. |
| 14:56 |
jeffdavis |
LP#1735808-- |
| 14:56 |
kmlussier |
jeffdavis: I started work on it, but then didn't put it in a git branch and lost it. I do have something in a git branch now. Let me look at it. My plan was to put it in a collab branch. |
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remingtron |
kmlussier: jeffdavis: FYI, there's a branch now on the attached column sorting bug #1731278 |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1731278 in Evergreen "web client: grid columns aren't displaying in order specified in tt2 files" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731278 |
| 14:58 |
remingtron |
hopefully that's one less barrier |
| 15:00 |
gmcharlt |
#startmeeting Evergreen development meeting, 4 April 2018 |
| 15:00 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting started Wed Apr 4 15:00:06 2018 US/Eastern. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_development_meeting__4_april_2018' |
| 15:00 |
gmcharlt |
#info Agenda is https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2018-04-04 |
| 15:00 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Introductions |
| 15:00 |
gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox |
| 15:00 |
phasefx |
#info phasefx = Jason Etheridge, Equinox |
| 15:00 |
dbwells |
#info dbwells = Dan Wells, Hekman Library (Calvin College) |
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jeffdavis |
#info jeffdavis = Jeff Davis, BC Libraries Coop (Sitka) |
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abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Neiman, Equinox |
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JBoyer |
#info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, IN State Library |
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berick |
#info berick = Bill Erickson, KCLS |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Action items from last meeting |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
a couple are going to be carried forward :( |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
#action gmcharlt will open and work on bugs for documentation changes for better ejabberd configuration during installation of OpenSRF |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
#action gmcharlt will work on patches destined for a release of OpenSRF 3.0.1 in Feburary |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
#action now April |
| 15:03 |
remingtron |
#info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) |
| 15:03 |
gmcharlt |
dbwells: did you happen to have a chance to tweak the downloads page to make Hatch more visible? |
| 15:03 |
dbwells |
Yes, I made a number of small changes to the downloads page. |
| 15:03 |
gmcharlt |
dbwells++ |
| 15:03 |
dbwells |
I hope they are generally under the guise of not quite identfiable improvements :) |
| 15:04 |
gmcharlt |
#info dbwells make some improvements to the downloads page |
| 15:04 |
gmcharlt |
#topic OpenSRF release |
| 15:04 |
gmcharlt |
#info OpenSRF 3.0.1 remains a work in progress |
| 15:04 |
gmcharlt |
and now to the exciting bit |
| 15:04 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Evergreen release |
| 15:04 |
gmcharlt |
#info 3.0.1 is released! |
| 15:04 |
gmcharlt |
dbwells++ |
| 15:04 |
bshum |
3.1.0 maybe |
| 15:04 |
kmlussier |
#info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
| 15:04 |
gmcharlt |
bah |
| 15:05 |
gmcharlt |
#info 3.1.0 is released |
| 15:05 |
gmcharlt |
*cough* |
| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
dbwells++ # RM and downloads page |
| 15:05 |
miker |
#info miker = Mike Rylander, EOLI |
| 15:05 |
gmcharlt |
dbwells: anything you wish to say about the release? |
| 15:05 |
dbs |
#info dbs = Dan Scott, Laurentian University |
| 15:05 |
dbs |
dbwells++ |
| 15:05 |
jeffdavis |
dbwells++ contributors++ |
| 15:06 |
dbwells |
Not really, but just to say I hope to send some sort of "closeout" message to the list later on this week ;) |
| 15:06 |
gmcharlt |
dbwells++ |
| 15:06 |
remingtron |
dbwells++ |
| 15:06 |
gmcharlt |
any questions about the release? |
| 15:08 |
kmlussier |
Should we have a blog post announcement of the release? I know we had an announcement for the list. |
| 15:08 |
* kmlussier |
usually steals from the blog post when writing the press release. |
| 15:08 |
gmcharlt |
yeah, I was thinking of writing it tomorrow if folks are amenable |
| 15:09 |
dbwells |
gmcharlt++ |
| 15:09 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt: Thanks! |
| 15:10 |
kmlussier |
dbwells++ gmcharlt++ contributors++ |
| 15:10 |
gmcharlt |
#action gmcharlt will put up a blog post announcing 3.1.0 on 4/5 |
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| 15:13 |
gmcharlt |
on to new business |
| 15:13 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Bug 1538675: Opening catalog link in a new tab forces user out of web client |
| 15:13 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1538675 in Evergreen "webclient: Opening link in a new tab from the catalog forces user out of client" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538675 |
| 15:14 |
jeffdavis |
I added that one. |
| 15:14 |
jeffdavis |
I've suggested an approach in the bug but I don't know whether it's a good idea. |
| 15:16 |
jeffdavis |
Specifically, replacing the context menu in the catalog iframe with a custom menu to control links opened in a new tab/window. |
| 15:16 |
miker |
jeffdavis: unfortunately, that leaves ctrl-click (maybe it's just me that uses that?) |
| 15:16 |
* berick |
was thinking the same |
| 15:17 |
miker |
but maybe we can capture that too, via onclick? |
| 15:17 |
miker |
and also ctrl-enter for keyboard activation |
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* JBoyer |
loves Ctrl/Command-click + middle click... |
| 15:18 |
miker |
aye, middle click, too |
| 15:19 |
kmlussier |
I would like to see CTRL-click work too, but if it turned out it was more complex or not as easily doable, the context menu would be nice to allow some way to open records in a new tab. |
| 15:19 |
miker |
we could, when loading inside the webstaff wrapper, pass a cgi param. when that's missing and it's a staff login, redirect to the wrapper version |
| 15:20 |
miker |
which would put the param in place, avoiding a loop |
| 15:21 |
jeff |
+1 to trying that over trying to override |
| 15:21 |
jeffdavis |
I like that much better too |
| 15:22 |
miker |
I don't know that we can completely duplicate what would happen in a single-click tab -- other params and such |
| 15:22 |
miker |
it would really only be workable for "dumb" record display links |
| 15:23 |
miker |
maybe that's enough |
| 15:23 |
jeffdavis |
AFAICT our handling of regular clicks on iframe links is pretty basic to begin with |
| 15:23 |
miker |
well, I'm thinking about the place-hold link on a format-restricted metarecord, say |
| 15:24 |
miker |
but maybe we can, instead of doing a dumb wrap, force the iframe src to be what it would have been, rather that constructing it from scratch... |
| 15:26 |
dbwells |
One possible issue with the CGI-param would be the iframe links which function "normally" now (pagination, etc.), to avoid false re-wraps. But, I do think this plan is overall on the right track. |
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jeff |
can browsers be relied upon to have "open link in new tab" (via modified click, context menu) use the src= attribute of the link while other "normal" interactions (click or keyboard activation of the link) fire an event? |
| 15:28 |
miker |
dbwells: ah, indeed. we might have to teach mk_url() to always add a param if it exists, of test to see if we're inside an iframe, and inject <input type=hidden> vars or something |
| 15:29 |
dbwells |
And maybe this is what miker was suggesting most recently, but we might also consider moving the "special" link logic to the TPAC itself, so when in client mode, the most salient links are actually the full client links right from the get-go. |
| 15:29 |
jeff |
oh, that might not actually help due to other complexities of the iframe... nevermind, probably. |
| 15:29 |
miker |
there's probably a seed of a plan in there somewhere :) ... TUITS! |
| 15:30 |
jeff |
we do control the iframe and the contents within, so if we need to modify both sides to have a solid fix... |
| 15:30 |
jeff |
:-) |
| 15:30 |
* miker |
eyeballs fragments... are you useful? |
| 15:31 |
* dbwells |
needs to duck out for another event, will keep his eye on the bug/logs |
| 15:32 |
gmcharlt |
great, I love it when a plan starts to coalesce ;) |
| 15:33 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Selecting 3.2 release manager |
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| 15:35 |
gmcharlt |
As I mentioned on the wiki, my proposal is to email a formal call tomorrow, deadline on 4/20, and IRC vote (if needed) on 4/25 |
| 15:36 |
gmcharlt |
thoughts? |
| 15:37 |
kmlussier |
Sounds good to me. |
| 15:37 |
JBoyer |
Sounds like a reasonable timeline |
| 15:37 |
jeffdavis |
+1 |
| 15:37 |
* gmcharlt |
prepares the Lasso of Voluntelling +1 |
| 15:37 |
gmcharlt |
#action gmcharlt will issue call for RM for 3.2 on 4/5 |
| 15:38 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
| 15:38 |
gmcharlt |
#info Deadline for nominations will be 4/20; vote, if necessary, will be held on 4/25 |
| 15:38 |
gmcharlt |
OK, any other topics? |
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| 15:39 |
gmcharlt |
going once |
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cesardv |
#info cesardv = Cesar Velez, EOLI |
| 15:40 |
* JBoyer |
scratches his nose, checks his pocket, eventually realizes he is not at an auction. |
| 15:40 |
gmcharlt |
heh |
| 15:40 |
gmcharlt |
ok, thanks folks |
| 15:40 |
gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
| 15:40 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Wed Apr 4 15:40:37 2018 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2018/evergreen.2018-04-04-15.00.html |
| 15:40 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2018/evergreen.2018-04-04-15.00.txt |
| 15:40 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2018/evergreen.2018-04-04-15.00.log.html |
| 15:41 |
jeffdavis |
gmcharlt++ |
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miker |
gmcharlt++ |
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kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
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* cesardv |
was saved by the bell lol |
| 15:41 |
kmlussier |
JBoyer: I think you just bought an Evergreen system for $1,000. |
| 15:41 |
jeffdavis |
:) |
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* JBoyer |
drops his monocle into the nearest martini |
| 15:43 |
bshum |
You could buy a lot of Evergreen for $1000, I think. |
| 15:43 |
bshum |
Well, resources for Evergreen. |
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* Dyrcona |
loves the smell of fresh VMs in the afternoon. |
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Jaswinder |
Hey, I am trying to access the new page that I created. I am getting Internal Server Error. I can't see anything in the logs for apache, nginx, or inside the /openils/var/log directory |
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Jaswinder |
The error is coming on this line WRAPPER "opac/parts/base.tt2"; |
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dbwells |
Jaswinder: So this is a public OPAC page, not a staff page? |
| 17:42 |
Jaswinder |
well, it is a part of results page of basic search from web client |
| 17:47 |
dbwells |
Jaswinder: Pages in the OPAC area a rather different than the web staff client pages. The data is all built/gathered server-side via "routes" defined in EGCatLoader.pm. It's hard to say what's going wrong in your case without knowing what pieces you have in place so far. |
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dbwells |
In that file you will see a "load" method which farms out the data collection to a slew of other load methods. |
| 17:49 |
dbwells |
Ultimately, whatever path you end up on needs to return "Apache2::Const::OK", or you will see an error. |
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dbwells |
(this is a mod_perl module) |
| 17:52 |
dbwells |
I'll be heading out very shortly, hope that's enough to get you moving again :) |
| 18:04 |
Jaswinder |
Thanks dbwells |
| 18:05 |
Jaswinder |
I am basic trying to replicate results.tt2 page to display data from different vendor |
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Jaswinder |
it appears that I have to option to display vendor results. one is on the same results page by using show/hide method which may get complicated. The other is to mimic the resutls.tt2 page. For this, I also have to load results for new page |
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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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