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| 09:04 |
Dyrcona |
I'm getting live test failures this morning with a freshly installed concerto. |
| 09:06 |
Dyrcona |
I'll recreate the database and try again, but I expect the same failures. |
| 09:14 |
Dyrcona |
So, because of that, I will not push this branch to master, but I'll add my signoffs and update the bug. |
| 09:15 |
phasefx |
incidentally, the qa tester is down; I'll find tuits to fix it next week |
| 09:16 |
phasefx |
maybe go ahead and make the transition to Jessie |
| 09:17 |
phasefx |
or stretch? |
| 09:20 |
Dyrcona |
Or, xenial? :) |
| 09:21 |
Dyrcona |
I don't think branch caused the failures, but I'm erring on the side of caution. |
| 09:21 |
Dyrcona |
I will add the test output to a bug comment. |
| 09:25 |
* phasefx |
uses xenial :) |
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kmlussier |
@marc 246 |
| 09:54 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: A form of the title appearing on different parts of an item or a portion of the title proper, or an alternative form of the title when the form differs significantly from the title contained in field 245. (Repeatable) [a,b,f,g,h,i,n,p,5,6,8] |
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miker |
kmlussier: title|alternative ;) |
| 10:42 |
kmlussier |
miker: Yeah, I should probably know these off the top of my head by now. :) As it turns out, I had to go to loc.gov anyway because what I was really interested in were the indicators. |
| 10:43 |
kmlussier |
Speaking of which, adding a link to the corresponding loc page would make the @marc plugin even more useful. |
| 11:02 |
* Dyrcona |
has to reboot because ip and systemd have turned Linux into Windows, almost. |
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* Dyrcona |
makes note to use virsh net-destroy next time. |
| 11:17 |
jeff |
systemctl enable zabbix-agent |
| 11:17 |
jeff |
that is to say, good morning. |
| 11:17 |
berick |
eh |
| 11:17 |
berick |
heh |
| 11:17 |
berick |
jeff: at least freenode is now being monitored |
| 11:21 |
ngf42 |
offtopic, but zabbix vs nagios. any opinions? |
| 11:27 |
* bshum |
always liked zabbix, but hasn't looked at either lately :\ |
| 11:31 |
* Dyrcona |
can't use a touchpad apparently. |
| 11:31 |
* Dyrcona |
should turn off tap to click, despite how convenient it sometimes is. |
| 11:32 |
* Dyrcona |
also wants to know where the "Disable while typing" setting went. |
| 11:33 |
Dyrcona |
I swear, every "upgrade" just gets worse than the last one. |
| 11:33 |
Dyrcona |
Every Ubuntu upgrade that is. |
| 11:36 |
Dyrcona |
Though, maybe I should blame Gnome for the touchpad settings? |
| 11:41 |
kmlussier |
The disable while typing setting doesn't work as well as I would like on my laptop. |
| 11:41 |
Dyrcona |
Nah, it never did, but it's better than not having one. |
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| 11:43 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: I got excited when you mentioned the setting because I thought it was the answer to my typing problems. Then I found out it had been enabled all along. |
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Dyrcona |
kmlussier: I heard that sound they used to play on '70s game shows when the contestant lost when I read that. |
| 11:48 |
kmlussier |
lol |
| 11:49 |
ngf42 |
Dyrcona++ |
| 11:49 |
ngf42 |
bshum++ |
| 11:50 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I don't have an opinion on nagios vs. zabbix, but I've only ever used nagios and icinga. |
| 11:51 |
bshum |
ngf42: We tried using Zabbix for awhile at my last place of work. Then we ended up setting up Nagios/Icinga for notifications (because it's pretty good at it),and then Munin for stat monitoring/trending |
| 11:51 |
bshum |
Zabbix did all of that, but it didn't play nice with certain other services we wanted to monitor/setup |
| 11:51 |
bshum |
And it was a bit heavier on the resource end of things |
| 11:51 |
Dyrcona |
We use nagios at CW MARS. |
| 11:52 |
bshum |
I think Bmagic's group used Zabbix more |
| 11:52 |
bshum |
Or at least Justin did |
| 11:52 |
ngf42 |
"web-centric" configs of zabbix frighten me. i like text. easier to put into version control. |
| 11:52 |
bshum |
At some point |
| 11:52 |
ngf42 |
but i haven't looked into it |
| 11:52 |
bshum |
Heh, I had the opposite reaction. Having a web GUI to set stuff up was an easier "sell" to my IT management at the time |
| 11:52 |
bshum |
Just nobody wanted to set it up, so we ended up setting it aside in the end |
| 11:53 |
bshum |
Bought and read a nice book about Zabbix though |
| 11:53 |
ngf42 |
nagios configs are a nightmare, to be sure. |
| 11:53 |
bshum |
So I can leave that knowledge on my resume, just in case :) |
| 11:54 |
ngf42 |
thanks though. i'll put it on my ever-growing list of "things to try" |
| 11:56 |
* Dyrcona |
glances over his shoulder at the boxes full of lists of things to try. :) |
| 11:57 |
Dyrcona |
and then decides it is time for lunch. |
| 11:57 |
ngf42 |
:-) https://i.imgur.com/4KuV0Ox.gifv nomnomnom |
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kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Are those anywhere near your boxes full of lists of things to do in your spare time? |
| 12:21 |
pastebot |
"miker" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "I won't drag bug 1754455 further off topic, but rhamby, something like this..." (29 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/566 |
| 12:21 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1754455 in Evergreen "marc_export should (optionally) remove 0 subfields" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754455 - Assigned to Dan Pearl (dpearl) |
| 12:24 |
miker |
Dyrcona: fwiw, I wasn't attempting to derail, and I think what rhamby was saying was just supporting "let's strip the $0s!" ... a +1 |
| 12:24 |
rhamby |
miker: seems, sane unnest the $0s and only return those where the control number identifier matches the setting |
| 12:24 |
miker |
sorry for the confusion, though |
| 12:24 |
miker |
rhamby: right |
| 12:25 |
Dyrcona |
miker: I don't think anyone ever intends to derail a bug, but they often get bogged down in extraneous discussions, in this case aided by a poorly worded description. |
| 12:25 |
Dyrcona |
miker++ rhamby++ |
| 12:28 |
* Dyrcona |
would give Elaine karma, too, but I don't know her nick. |
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csharp |
Dyrcona: she's never in IRC, but would probably be ehardy ;-) |
| 12:39 |
csharp |
ehardy++ |
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Dyrcona |
ehardy++ |
| 12:39 |
csharp |
ngf42++ # nom |
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* csharp |
cool guy nods at yboston |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1717593: Missing strings cause serial item delete (and status change) failures - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a04a71c> |
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| 14:53 |
kmlussier |
@quote random |
| 14:53 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: Quote #36: "< tsbere> colons are a PITA" (added by csharp at 05:16 PM, November 27, 2012) |
| 14:59 |
kmlussier |
dbwells++ # fixing tests! |
| 14:59 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Fix billing / negative balance test cases - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3bdc069> |
| 15:04 |
csharp |
hmm - pondering whether we should trim() report filter input strings by default |
| 15:04 |
csharp |
I just copied and pasted a TCN from the web client and got no results because it included a leading space |
| 15:04 |
csharp |
trim() took care of it |
| 15:04 |
csharp |
I can't think of a use case where the end user would want/expect the string to make a difference |
| 15:05 |
csharp |
maybe a "trimmed string" transform? |
| 15:06 |
csharp |
given osrf json syntax as I understand it, should be relatively simple to do, right? |
| 15:07 |
csharp |
anyway, not a major issue, but thinking about it since I just hit it |
| 15:07 |
csharp |
@monologue |
| 15:07 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: Your current monologue is at least 8 lines long. |
| 15:09 |
csharp |
I guess it's a complimentary idea to "first contigous non-space string" which anticipates leading whitespace in the data in the db |
| 15:10 |
csharp |
*contiguous |
| 15:10 |
miker |
csharp: you want to trim report parameter input coming from the user? |
| 15:13 |
csharp |
yeah |
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pastebot |
"miker" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "how to add transforms to the webstaff reporter" (28 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/568 |
| 15:17 |
miker |
csharp: I say, go to town and add btrim, and parameterized versions, too |
| 15:20 |
jeff |
something like call numbers starting with 'FOO ' or "stat cat starting with 'Grand ' are some of the times we use significant trailing whitespace in that context. |
| 15:45 |
csharp |
miker: awesome! - thanks - I'll test with this when I get a sec |
| 17:07 |
berick |
kmlussier: proposal for the next annual community survey: replace the number/count questions with a series of SQL SELECT commands we can all run :) |
| 17:10 |
kmlussier |
berick: I've never filled out a survey with SQL SELECT statements. |
| 17:14 |
berick |
kmlussier: i'm kidding a little bit, but it would be kind of neat to have a way for people to easily generate the numbers from their databases. |
| 17:14 |
berick |
and since we all have the same databases... |
| 17:15 |
berick |
and now i'm going down the rabbit hole of a stock Community Survey reports folder.. |
| 17:16 |
dbwells |
berick++ # taking English out of the equation |
| 17:19 |
berick |
dbwells: exactly! |
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kmlussier |
berick: yeah, it would be useful for those who have that level of access to their systems. But it would be nice to have something quick and easy for those who only use the reporter too. |
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