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06:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:17 kmlussier Happy Friday #evergreen!
08:17 kmlussier @coffee [someone]
08:17 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Honduras David Mancia, and sends it sliding down the bar to yar
08:17 kmlussier @tea [someone]
08:17 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Hu-Kwa Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to rashma_away (http://ratetea.com/tea/mark-​t-wendell/hu-kwa-tea/4467/)
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08:48 kmlussier Dyrcona: Do you think it's possible that the syntax error was with the upgrade script you skipped?
08:55 Dyrcona kmlussier: No, it wasn't. It came from the copy command much later to create the thesauri temp table.
09:05 Dyrcona What tends to happen is one error triggers others.
09:05 Dyrcona Everything after that is rolled back because it is 1 transaction.
09:06 Dyrcona I think sometime psql/postgres just kind of "guesses" what caused this particular operation to fail.
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10:26 ejk Hi, again! Thanks to miker for the link to the unAPI docs for pulling bib info out (http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg​/3.0/integrations/_url_format.html). The only thing I haven't been able to get is Hold Count for the bib. Any way to get that to show up in the results from that call?
10:29 jeff I don't know offhand, but can look. You might need to fall back to open-ils.circ.bre.holds.count or open-ils.circ.mmr.holds.count (for metarecords)
10:29 miker ejk: no, there's no transactional data embedded in the unapi output
10:29 jeff and now I will skip looking. :-)
10:30 miker :)
10:31 ejk Okay, good to know. I was able to figure out how to get the current circulations on the holdings, to look up due dates on the checked out items, so that was cool.
10:31 ejk I guess I'll have to make one OpenSRF call after all. =)
10:33 ejk Thanks again. How did it get to be December already? ...
10:33 ejk miker++ jeff++
10:36 Dyrcona Bmagic: I just tested an upgrade from 2.12.6 to 2.12.8 using your working tag branch for rel_2_12_8 and it works fine. Should we push that to the main repo?
10:37 Bmagic Dyrcona: I think that's fine, I was just in the middle of testing the tarball myself
10:37 Dyrcona OK. It can wait a bit longer while you test.
10:37 Bmagic gmcharlt might be in bed as a "sick pumpkin" - otherwise, he usually does that
10:37 Dyrcona I'll be doing this upgrade for real next Wednesday.
10:38 Dyrcona :)
10:38 Dyrcona Well, :( rather
10:53 Bmagic Dyrcona: tarball successful. OPAC running, staff client logged in, with concerto. Did not test DB upgrade though
10:54 Dyrcona Bmagic: Cool! I tested the db upgrades for 2.12.6 to 2.12.7 and 2.12.7 to 2.12.8, and they work for me.
10:54 Bmagic I think we might be gold
10:54 Dyrcona I've been kicking the tires and taking it around the block.
10:55 Dyrcona Yeah. I'll push the branch to the main repository.
10:55 Bmagic thanks!
10:55 Dyrcona np
10:55 Bmagic Dyrcona++
10:55 Dyrcona Bmagic++
10:59 Dyrcona And, done!
11:12 Bmagic ty
11:25 kmlussier Dyrcona++ Bmagic++
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11:43 csharp @band add Sick Pumpkin
11:43 pinesol_green csharp: Band 'Sick Pumpkin' added to list
11:46 * csharp works to stave off the Great Cataloger Rebellion of 2018
11:48 csharp so there's apparently an 18-character truncation point for the branch name in the holdings view and it looks like we can work around this by using the shortname, but I haven't dug in to see how possible that is
11:48 csharp (at least in the screenshot I was given)
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11:53 csharp hmm - maybe our catalogers need more columns displayed than stock master has
11:54 csharp 'Example System 1 ... Example Branch 1' - the elipsis looks like that's truncating, but I don't know
11:55 Dyrcona @praise [band]
11:55 * pinesol_green In days of old, it was prophesied that a hero would come and restore karmic balance to #evergreen. Ejabberd and the Shapers is that hero.
11:56 berick related, kind of surprised we use full names there, when we use shortnames everywhere else in the staff client
11:57 Dyrcona I never thought too much about it, but it is different.
11:57 csharp the xul client does show the full name
11:57 csharp unfortunately the short name is not an available column in the picker
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12:05 berick csharp: can you clarify, the problem is the Owning Library column does not have enough space?
12:05 csharp berick: right
12:05 berick and if you hide other columns (to test) it does eventually show the full names?
12:05 csharp let me see
12:05 berick and/or resize the columns via the configurator
12:07 csharp berick: the full names are visible if there's room, yes - looking at resizing now
12:08 csharp I'm not seeing resizing work
12:08 csharp it pops up the <-> cursor, but doesn't work
12:08 berick csharp: using the 'Configure Columns' action?
12:09 berick the drag/drop resizing is nonfunctional at the moment
12:09 csharp oh - yeah that does work
12:10 csharp let me see if that's enough to solve the problem
12:10 * csharp is still learning how the end-user stuff works
12:10 berick cool
12:10 berick don't forget to "Save Columns" once you have it where you want.
12:12 berick csharp: if you want to further improve the grid mgmt experience: bug #1730752 :)
12:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1730752 in Evergreen "Webstaff option to show/hide multiple grid columns" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1730752
12:16 csharp berick++ # will test
12:17 csharp apparently our catalogers are unyielding about needing enough columns that the display isn't wide enough :-/
12:17 * csharp seethes a little
12:23 kmlussier Bmagic / Dyrcona: I saw you all talking about the release earlier, but has the tarball uploaded to the server yet? If so, I can put on gmcharlt's hat for the day and upload the downloads page, do announcements, etc.
12:24 pastebot "berick" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "for csharp if needed -- use shortname" (12 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/946
12:24 kmlussier No, it doesn't look like the tarball is available or, if it is, I'm not using the correct URL.
12:24 csharp ok, so where do I found out the source of the content in the column picker - I'm starting with inspecting the element in Chrome dev tools
12:25 * csharp missed a question mark somewhere in there
12:25 berick csharp: see my paste? ^-- (i'll answer your question too...)
12:25 csharp oh - whoops - I overlooked that
12:26 kmlussier I wonder if the shortname is something that everyone would want to see there. Screen space is a little more limited in the web client.
12:28 jeff +1 to shortname by default in that view.
12:30 berick +1 here too for space and consistency
12:30 mmorgan +1 we have always used shortnames everywhere
12:31 dbwells kmlussier: Bmagic: I will upload the tarball and update the downloads page as soon as I get back from lunch.
12:31 kmlussier dbwells++
12:31 Dyrcona dbwells++
12:32 Dyrcona +1 for jumping on bandwagons
12:35 csharp berick++ # that solves it!
12:36 csharp berick: I can create a bug report after lunch if you want to create a branch for it
12:36 berick csharp: cool, can do
12:36 berick note to self: i18n-ify that too
12:37 berick well, hold that thought for later
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12:48 dbwells kmlussier: Bmagic: decided I could eat and upload at the same time; everything should be set now.
12:48 * dbwells disappears for a bit
12:49 kmlussier OK, I can handle announcements then and LP churn. Thanks dbwells!
12:50 dbwells kmlussier: thanks to you as well!
12:50 Bmagic dbwells++
12:51 * dbwells will also deal with his tag branch and upgrade forward-porting when he gets back
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13:07 kmlussier https://evergreen-ils.org/everg​reen-3-0-2-and-2-12-8-released/
13:08 miker re holdings view, full name was requested since the xul analog used it (for some background). +1 for shortname, though, if it makes enough room
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13:58 csharp berick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1735807
13:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1735807 in Evergreen "web client: full library names truncated in holdings view" [Undecided,New]
13:58 csharp thanks!
14:01 csharp miker: makes sense
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14:56 rjackson_isl kmlussier: see my comment in bug 1735816 :(
14:56 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1735816 in Evergreen "Cannot Delete Existing Copy Notes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735816
14:58 kmlussier rjackson_isl: No worries. I'm going to check anyway, though, because I had heard a similar report from somebody who has already upgraded. :)
14:59 rjackson_isl kmlussier++
15:34 csharp kmlussier: according to Elaine here, she could delete bucket items but not copy notes
15:34 csharp after applying the DB scripts
15:34 csharp I haven't looked into yet, though
15:34 kmlussier csharp: Yeah, I just tested it. I see it too. Adding a comment to the bug.
15:35 csharp @blame too many frickin' issues
15:35 pinesol_green csharp: I know it was you, too many frickin' issues. You broke csharp's heart. You broke csharp's heart.
15:56 Bmagic Dyrcona kmlussier - it looks like the git repo does not have tags/rel_3_0_2 ?
15:56 Bmagic dbwells ^
15:56 dbwells Bmagic: getting to it soon...
15:56 Bmagic ah! Thanks!
15:57 Bmagic talk about bleeding edge....
15:58 Dyrcona Yeah, maybe I was too anxious to push rel_2_12_8. :)
15:58 Dyrcona Upgrade scripts need to be backported, too, but dbwells mentioned that earlier.
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16:04 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 3.0.2 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2c186b7>
16:08 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Forward-port 2.12.8 upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f17a075>
16:10 Dyrcona dbwells++
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17:17 Bmagic Does anyone agree that the hold transit slip shouldn't have patron information on it?
17:21 kmlussier Bmagic: Agreed
17:22 kmlussier Our delivery system doesn't require holds transit slips anymore, but, when it did, I'm pretty sure there was a policy not to include that information.
17:22 Bmagic Missouri Evergreen made that judgment recently and I was considering making a patch
17:23 kmlussier Bmagic: Of course, it's easy enough to remove from the slip locally, but I'm always in favor of setting a good example.
17:23 Bmagic do you know if there is a bug already out there along those lines?
17:34 Bmagic bug 1735847
17:34 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1735847 in Evergreen "Default hold transit slip should not include patron information" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735847
18:32 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>

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