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gmcharlt |
we'll be taking webby.evergreencatalog.com down now for updates and upgrading it to 3.0-beta |
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gmcharlt |
it will be back up later this afternoon |
| 09:28 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
| 09:31 |
kmlussier |
dbs: Yesterday, I started setting up an Evergreen YouTube account, which is linked to the Google Evergreen brand account you created. |
| 09:32 |
kmlussier |
dbs: It looks like the account owner is the only person who can add other managers to the YouTube account. Would you be able to add rhamby_ as an manager? |
| 09:33 |
rkw |
Is this the correct channel to get help installing a new Evergreen server? |
| 09:34 |
kmlussier |
rkw: Yes, it is! |
| 09:36 |
rkw |
thanks kmlussier! I'm installing EG 2.12.5, following the instructions from https://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/install/README_2_12.html#_configuration_and_compilation_instructions |
| 09:36 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] Proposed 2.12.5-3.0 upgrade SQL - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5b5c81f> |
| 09:36 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Mike Rylander] Incorporate view update from LP#1714589 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1eb33ec> |
| 09:37 |
rkw |
at Item #5, configure succeeds, but 'make' fails with: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldbdpgsql ld returned 1 exit status |
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rkw |
is anyone familiar with this error? |
| 09:39 |
rhamby_ |
kmlussier: (other web team) I just realized that the connect section of the involvement page doesn' thave our facebook or twitter info so adding that real quick |
| 09:39 |
kmlussier |
rhamby_: Great, thanks! |
| 09:39 |
kmlussier |
rhamby++ |
| 09:42 |
dbwells |
rkw: Yes, we've seen that error. It can have a number of causes, unfortunately. What OS distribution are you on? |
| 09:42 |
rkw |
ubuntu trusty |
| 09:42 |
cesardv |
rkw: yep I've seen that being caused by perl and related dependencies being slightly older than required by Evergreen (on wheeze at least) check you perl versions |
| 09:43 |
rkw |
cesardv: ok, will do. thanks |
| 09:43 |
dbwells |
rkw: Any chance you are running 32-bit? We need to tweak the configure line on our one lonely 32-bit install. |
| 09:44 |
Dyrcona |
rkw: IIRC, that is not Perl. It's not finding the C libdbdpgsql libraries, and on 14.04, that's not usually an issue, except possibly as csharp says, on 32-bit. |
| 09:44 |
Dyrcona |
Sorry, dbwells... :) |
| 09:45 |
Dyrcona |
dbwells++ |
| 09:45 |
* Dyrcona |
is doing too many things at once, resumes lurking. |
| 09:45 |
rkw |
dbwells: I am running 32 bit .... I could do 64, but chose 32 for some unknown reason |
| 09:46 |
rkw |
dbwells: is it better to choose 'server' over 'desktop' iso? |
| 09:48 |
dbwells |
rkw: 32-bit is okay, you just need to find libdbdpgsql.so. On my 32-bit system it is in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dbd/ |
| 09:48 |
Dyrcona |
rkw: Use the 64-bit server ISO, always. |
| 09:48 |
rkw |
dyrcona: ok, downloading it now....will be awhile |
| 09:49 |
dbwells |
rkw: I agree with Dyrcona's advice as the long-term solution, but if you just want to get it running ASAP, 32-bit isn't a big obstacle. |
| 09:49 |
rkw |
dbwells: I'd like to continue installing on my 32 bit server OS .... if only for the experience, so I will continue to try to resolve this on 32bit |
| 09:50 |
rkw |
dbwells: I have the libdbdpgsql.so in the same dir on my system |
| 09:51 |
dbwells |
rkw: Alright, you are probably close. Try adding --with-dbi=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dbd/ to your configure command, then see if make is more happy. |
| 09:51 |
rkw |
dbwells: will do, thank you |
| 09:51 |
Dyrcona |
yeah, that looks right. |
| 09:52 |
Dyrcona |
Been a long time since I tried 32-bit and that was just to see if it would install. |
| 09:53 |
rkw |
Dyrcona: I'm new enough that the install experience will help, so like you, I just want to see if I can do 32-bit while the 64-bit downloads |
| 09:55 |
Dyrcona |
Last time I had a library issue, I just munged the makefiles. |
| 09:55 |
dbwells |
In my case, I fired up an older server a few months ago in laziness to do a test install, had no recollection it was 32-bit, then was majorly confused for longer than I care to admit :) |
| 09:57 |
Dyrcona |
I haven't installed on 14.04 for a while, either, for that matter. I'm mostly using Ubuntu 16.04 and Debian 8. |
| 09:58 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] start work on 3.0 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2da1e4f> |
| 09:58 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] add organizations who sponsored develpoment written by Equinox - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fa4fe4f> |
| 09:58 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: copy-editing 3.0 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2d53e56> |
| 09:58 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Slightly rename release notes to follow existing convention - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6cf84d5> |
| 09:58 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Fix thinko in 3.0 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=bf55771> |
| 10:00 |
rkw |
dbwells: Dyrcona: make is happy ... moving on. Thank you! |
| 10:00 |
dbwells |
rkw: Great, glad to help. Good luck! |
| 10:01 |
kmlussier |
dbwells++ Dyrcona++ |
| 10:08 |
dbs |
kmlussier: sure thing |
| 10:09 |
dbs |
kmlussier: done |
| 10:10 |
kmlussier |
dbs++ |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Clean up RELEASE_NOTES_NEXT - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5468dc3> |
| 10:30 |
rhamby_ |
dbs++ |
| 11:22 |
Bmagic |
dbs++ #cause it's trending |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
Does bug 1703411 really affect Evergreen, too? I would think it pretty much only affects OpenSRF since that handles the XMPP layer. |
| 11:25 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1703411 in OpenSRF "OpenSRF: XMPP Non-SASL auth is being phased out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703411 |
| 11:27 |
miker |
Dyrcona: yeah, it's just opensrf, really. I'm looking at that, too :) |
| 11:28 |
Dyrcona |
I was just looking at different SASL implementations, just scanning the docs and checking licenses. |
| 11:29 |
abneiman |
miker / Dyrcona : I switched it from EG to OpenSRF but wasn't sure if it should stay in EG as well |
| 11:30 |
Dyrcona |
abneiman++ # I noticed that. I probably would have forgotten this bug if you hadn't done that. :) |
| 11:31 |
dbs |
Bmagic: haha :) |
| 11:31 |
Dyrcona |
Not that I'm expecting to fix it, but you never know.... |
| 11:31 |
dbs |
Bmagic++ |
| 11:31 |
Bmagic |
haha |
| 11:34 |
* dbs |
notes that none of the sample catalogues shared so far redirect to HTTPS :/ |
| 11:35 |
Dyrcona |
Not everything needs to be encrypted. I know it makes us feel warm and fuzzy, but.... |
| 11:35 |
dbs |
Oh wait the Czechs did, yay |
| 11:36 |
dbs |
I strongly dislike having usernames and passwords being sent in plain text. I don't think that's a warm and fuzzy concern. |
| 11:36 |
Dyrcona |
Authentication should be encrypted, and in Evergreen it is. |
| 11:37 |
Dyrcona |
Just quickly doing a search without logging in? Not so much. |
| 11:37 |
Dyrcona |
And, there's no reason to encrypt sites like my personal site, at all. |
| 11:38 |
Dyrcona |
Encrypt your email, first, then I'll take HTTPS everywhere seriously. :P |
| 11:39 |
dbs |
Good point on the auth redirect! |
| 11:39 |
dbs |
dbs-- |
| 11:39 |
Bmagic |
dbs++ |
| 11:40 |
Dyrcona |
dbs++ # To counterbalance his silly self-decrementation. :) |
| 11:40 |
dbs |
Still, if you have certs already to support HTTPS auth, why not make the whole site HTTPS? |
| 11:40 |
dwgreen |
LetsEncrypt it. :) |
| 11:40 |
berick |
and it's also about talking to who you think you are talking to |
| 11:40 |
berick |
regardless of encryption |
| 11:40 |
Bmagic |
dbs: it's because of the handshake overhead, duh! |
| 11:40 |
dwgreen |
Probably would help with those scripts that can only be served over https too |
| 11:40 |
Bmagic |
56k can't handle the truth! |
| 11:41 |
dwgreen |
External scripts I mean |
| 11:41 |
berick |
Bmagic: heh |
| 11:41 |
Dyrcona |
ha! For trusting who you are talking to, self-signed certs are safer, if you very the certs. |
| 11:41 |
Dyrcona |
s/very/verify/ |
| 11:41 |
Dyrcona |
I'm supposed to trust the CIA to sign certs? :) |
| 11:42 |
Bmagic |
HTTP specification headers need to be changed to include a "dial-up" flag T/F |
| 11:42 |
dbs |
nginx + http2 makes TLS negotiation even less of an issue |
| 11:42 |
* Dyrcona |
has considered creating a browser called Paranoia that doesn't have any trusted authorities, remembers certs per domain, and tracks them. |
| 11:43 |
dbs |
(well, http2 really, nginx just does a nice job of making it easy) |
| 11:43 |
Bmagic |
Dyrcona: Just use IE if you want everything to be broken |
| 11:43 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: Have a look at the authorities that your browser trusts some time. You might be a little surprised. |
| 11:43 |
jonadab |
Dyrcona: You mean like the way ssh uses certs? Assume that in practice, attacks are very unlikely to happen the _first_ time you visit a site? |
| 11:44 |
Bmagic |
I've looked and I have been surprised! |
| 11:44 |
jonadab |
But if the cert changes, that's a cause for alarm no matter who signed it? |
| 11:44 |
jonadab |
And yes, the list of what authorities the major browsers trust is ridiculous. |
| 11:46 |
Dyrcona |
jonadab: It depends on the sites you're visiting and why. |
| 11:46 |
dbs |
dwgreen: We're using LetsEncrypt on almost everything except our EG instance, which has a wildcard from 2015 that expires next year... just in time for LE to start issuing wildcard certs |
| 11:46 |
Dyrcona |
There have been cases of spoofed Microsoft certs in the wild being used in attacks. |
| 11:47 |
* dbs |
heads off to a meeting |
| 11:47 |
dwgreen |
dbs: I have been keeping an eye on LE's wildcard certificates. We have close to 50 EZproxy instances we manage, and they would be perfect for the job... except I think LE plans to only make them for the apex domain, which won't work for us. |
| 11:48 |
dbs |
dwgreen: oh yeah, EZproxy is our other one! |
| 11:48 |
* dbs |
really out now |
| 11:48 |
Bmagic |
We switched to letsencrypt for EG, but we recently hit the ceiling for number of domains allowed to have letsencrypt (30). And instead of jumping through more hoops to get around that limit, we bought a wildcard |
| 11:49 |
* Dyrcona |
has experimented with creating an authority and signing his own certs. I trust myself more than anyone else. :) |
| 11:51 |
Dyrcona |
Fun thing about running your own authority, is you can sign user certs and allow access only to holders of those specific certs or certs signed by your authority. |
| 11:52 |
dwgreen |
Bmagic: Was that with using SAN certificates or just 30 different subdomain/certs? |
| 11:55 |
Bmagic |
I believe it was 30 different certs associated with one email |
| 11:55 |
Bmagic |
but SAN was a way around that |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: updates to Added Content instructions - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=81201ca> |
| 12:26 |
Dyrcona |
hmm. |
| 12:26 |
* Dyrcona |
thought he saw port 7680 in the websockets config the other day. |
| 12:26 |
* Dyrcona |
musta been hallucinating. |
| 12:36 |
Dyrcona |
Weird. It is there. |
| 12:37 |
* Dyrcona |
checks git log. |
| 12:38 |
Dyrcona |
Ah ha. Got it. |
| 12:39 |
Dyrcona |
My apache2.conf predates 2fc52cfa |
| 12:39 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1667091 Remove non-SSL websockets sample configs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=2fc52cf> |
| 12:57 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: updates to My Lists in patron account docs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3f7c6e5> |
| 12:57 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: making support scripts adoc formatting more consistent, adding marc stream importer docs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0e99828> |
| 13:16 |
kmlussier |
OK, Evergreen YouTube channel is all set up! I'm hoping you all subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC83L8WyXoj8Kf9hShdDY61A |
| 13:17 |
kmlussier |
Not only so that you can be updated when new videos are posted, but also so that we can reach 100 subscribers to get a custom URL. |
| 13:18 |
Bmagic |
kmlussier++ |
| 13:18 |
Bmagic |
"I love videos" |
| 13:18 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier++ |
| 13:26 |
rjackson_isl |
kmlussier++ |
| 13:26 |
csharp |
I'm working on sussing out an issue we're the PO JEDI A/T events are erroring out with 'Can't call method "class_name" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.18.2/OpenILS/Application/Trigger/Event.pm line 594.' |
| 13:27 |
Dyrcona |
busted/out of date IDL? |
| 13:28 |
csharp |
oh |
| 13:28 |
csharp |
hmm |
| 13:28 |
csharp |
there's a thought - I'll have to rule that out |
| 13:28 |
csharp |
line 594 is my $fhint = OpenILS::Application->publish_fieldmapper->{$context->class_name}{links}{$step}{class}; |
| 13:29 |
csharp |
and I created some debugging to output the value of $context as it runs and got https://pastebin.com/CHpP91fn\ |
| 13:29 |
* csharp |
runs off to check IDL |
| 13:37 |
csharp |
IDL looks ok |
| 13:38 |
csharp |
now checking the environment for the event def |
| 13:40 |
csharp |
no changes to environment between 2.11.1 and 2.12.4 |
| 13:40 |
csharp |
did anything about a/t change? |
| 13:47 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: adding to the patron myopac holds/circ history docs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f51917d> |
| 13:47 |
Dyrcona |
Well, none of those contexts look like undefined values in your paste, if that is indeed the $context. |
| 13:48 |
csharp |
there are two lines that end with "$context =" |
| 13:48 |
csharp |
visible in https://pastebin.com/raw/CHpP91fn |
| 13:50 |
ohiojoe |
DIG meeting in about 10 minutes, just an fyi |
| 13:52 |
Dyrcona |
csharp: I missed those in the non-raw version. Those are likely your culprits. Unfortunately, I don't know what would cause that to happen. |
| 13:54 |
Dyrcona |
I'd have a look at what's going on with the data for those purchase orders. It very well may be missing copies or something like that. |
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csharp |
it's *all* POs that are failing so it looks like a structural problem |
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| 14:01 |
ohiojoe |
ready? let's do this |
| 14:01 |
ohiojoe |
#startmeeting 2017-09-07 Documentation Interest Group Meeting |
| 14:01 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting started Thu Sep 7 14:01:44 2017 US/Eastern. The chair is ohiojoe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:01 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:01 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to '2017_09_07_documentation_interest_group_meeting' |
| 14:01 |
ohiojoe |
please introduce yourselves, paste "#info <username> is <name> <affiliation>" to identify who you are and what organization, if any, you represent |
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sandbergja |
#info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College |
| 14:02 |
ohiojoe |
#info ohiojoe is Joe Knueven, Germantown Public Library, COOL |
| 14:02 |
jihpringle |
#info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka) |
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ohiojoe |
anyone else? :-) |
| 14:04 |
dluch |
Sorry, I'm here...having IRC issues |
| 14:05 |
ohiojoe |
no worries, please introduce yourself for the sake of the record |
| 14:05 |
kmlussier |
#info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
| 14:06 |
ohiojoe |
next month I'll need to remember to actually use the topic command for introductions... |
| 14:06 |
dluch |
#info dluch is Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS |
| 14:06 |
BAM_ |
#info BAM is Benjamin Murphy, NC Cardinal |
| 14:07 |
ohiojoe |
#topic Ongoing Business |
| 14:08 |
ohiojoe |
#topic Progress on documentiong new features in Evergreen 2.12 (and previous) |
| 14:09 |
ohiojoe |
Does anyone have any updates on this? My recollection is that action items 6 and 7 came out of our discussion about this last month |
| 14:11 |
ohiojoe |
and I can sadly report, that local events during the last several weeks lead to me neglecting to act on my particular action item there.. |
| 14:11 |
jihpringle |
we haven't had anytime recently to contribute back but all of our docs have been updated to 2.12 if anyone wants/has the time to copy from them |
| 14:11 |
sandbergja |
ohiojoe: no worries; I only got around to finishing my piece this morning |
| 14:12 |
sandbergja |
jihpringle++ |
| 14:12 |
ohiojoe |
jihpringle++ |
| 14:13 |
dluch |
I've pretty much neglected my plans for contributing, too. Sorry |
| 14:13 |
kmlussier |
I haven't been able to devote much time to docs over the past month either. |
| 14:13 |
dluch |
jihpringle++ |
| 14:14 |
ohiojoe |
No worries, well, moving along then |
| 14:14 |
sandbergja |
I'm curious -- how did the recent web client day go? |
| 14:15 |
sandbergja |
Sorry that I wasn't able to participate; that day turned out to be way busier than I expected. :-( |
| 14:15 |
kmlussier |
Sadly, I don't think there was much activity. It was my first day back from vacation, and I didn't send out a reminder until late morning. |
| 14:15 |
kmlussier |
It was also the day of the maintenance release, and I ended up focusing on the release instead of docs. |
| 14:15 |
kmlussier |
I have no vacations coming up before the next web client day, and I plan to promote it more heavily. |
| 14:16 |
ohiojoe |
I had wanted to use it as a nudge to get moving on docs work too, but ended up at an out of town meeting instead.. |
| 14:16 |
kmlussier |
#info Next web client documentation day is September 27 |
| 14:18 |
ohiojoe |
#topic Progress on Docs Reorganization Project |
| 14:18 |
sandbergja |
kmlussier: Thanks for your promotion work! |
| 14:19 |
sandbergja |
We got some pretty positive feedback on the general direction of the docs reorg project! |
| 14:19 |
kmlussier |
Yes, it all looked good! sandbergja++ |
| 14:19 |
dluch |
Yes! sandbergja++ |
| 14:20 |
ohiojoe |
Yeah, I saw that on the general list. I don't think I saw anything that looked like less than positive feedback |
| 14:20 |
jihpringle |
sandbergja++ |
| 14:20 |
ohiojoe |
sandbergja++ |
| 14:20 |
sandbergja |
I think, at this point, it's time for the "Where do we go from here?" question |
| 14:20 |
kmlussier |
I think we should switch it over. |
| 14:20 |
dluch |
Agreed |
| 14:20 |
jihpringle |
agreed |
| 14:20 |
ohiojoe |
sounds good to me |
| 14:21 |
ohiojoe |
let's see, there's a command here for this.. |
| 14:21 |
sandbergja |
Should we plan for 3.0, then? I think it would be messy, and some things would be in the wrong books. |
| 14:22 |
sandbergja |
But it could still provide some usability benefits? |
| 14:22 |
sandbergja |
Also, new major release = new presentation of documentation sounds fun! |
| 14:22 |
kmlussier |
Yes, I think that makes sense. So the organization for the other releases would remain the same? |
| 14:22 |
jihpringle |
I think 3.0 makes the most sense, since most of the docs are having to be touched anyways with new screenshots for the webclient |
| 14:22 |
dluch |
Yes! |
| 14:23 |
ohiojoe |
yeah, even if there's some messiness, a major release is a good time to introduce such a change in the docs.. |
| 14:23 |
sandbergja |
kmlussier: I think just doing 3.0 docs sounds safer |
| 14:23 |
kmlussier |
+1 |
| 14:24 |
ohiojoe |
so, are we agreeing to change the structure starting with the 3.0 docs? |
| 14:24 |
jihpringle |
+1 |
| 14:25 |
kmlussier |
I don't think the 3.0 docs are added until the major release day, which is October 3. Maybe we could look at updating master now so that we have time to troubleshoot any issues that arise? |
| 14:25 |
sandbergja |
That makes sense. Switching it over would be a 3-step process: |
| 14:26 |
sandbergja |
1) Getting the new root_*.adoc files into master (these determine which content is in which books) |
| 14:27 |
sandbergja |
2) Updating the script on the production docs server to generate the new, reorganized manuals based on the root_*.adoc files |
| 14:27 |
sandbergja |
3) Lots and lots of cleanup :-) |
| 14:28 |
kmlussier |
sandbergja: I assume Robert hast to take care of #2? |
| 14:29 |
sandbergja |
kmlussier: I think so. There's a reorganized-documentation-generator script on the docs testing server that would just need a few modifications. |
| 14:31 |
kmlussier |
OK, so I guess we need to coordinate a bit to make sure he can update the script right after the new root file is added. |
| 14:32 |
sandbergja |
I believe that the current script would just ignore the new files, so it wouldn't be terrible if there were a lag between 1 and 2. |
| 14:32 |
sandbergja |
But doing 2 before 1 would cause problems. :-) |
| 14:32 |
sandbergja |
I'm wondering if 1) and 2) should be action items for me? |
| 14:33 |
ohiojoe |
that sounds good to me |
| 14:33 |
kmlussier |
And 3 should be an action item for the rest of us. :) |
| 14:33 |
ohiojoe |
I was thinking it sounds like an action item, and like something that only a few of y'all know what to do/how to do it |
| 14:34 |
sandbergja |
Maybe #3 could be coordinated in the wiki? |
| 14:34 |
ohiojoe |
#action sandbergja will coordnate getting the new root_*.adoc files into master |
| 14:34 |
dluch |
That's a good idea |
| 14:34 |
sandbergja |
The cleanup that I mean is stuff like "There is random administrator stuff in the middle of the circ manual; please move it to the admin manual" |
| 14:34 |
ohiojoe |
#action sandbergja will coordnate updating the script on the production doc server to generate the new, reorganized manuals based on the root_*.adoc files |
| 14:35 |
ohiojoe |
#action everyone will work on cleaning up the reorganized documentation |
| 14:36 |
kmlussier |
Should somebody take an action item to get that wiki page started? |
| 14:36 |
jihpringle |
I'll start the wiki page |
| 14:36 |
sandbergja |
jihpringle: thanks! |
| 14:36 |
kmlussier |
jihpringle++ sandbergja++ |
| 14:37 |
ohiojoe |
#action jihpringle will start a wiki page to coordinate the cleanup on the reorganized docs |
| 14:37 |
ohiojoe |
jihpringle++ sandbergja++ |
| 14:37 |
dluch |
jihpringle++ sandbergja++ |
| 14:38 |
ohiojoe |
#agree the reorganized documentation structure will be applied starting with the 3.0 documentation |
| 14:38 |
abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Neiman, EOLI |
| 14:38 |
abneiman |
(apologies, I had another meeting) |
| 14:38 |
ohiojoe |
no worries |
| 14:40 |
ohiojoe |
#topic progress on documentation launchpad bugs |
| 14:41 |
ohiojoe |
#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bugs?field.tag=documentation |
| 14:41 |
ohiojoe |
does anyone have anything to report here? |
| 14:42 |
kmlussier |
nope |
| 14:43 |
dluch |
No, sorry |
| 14:43 |
ohiojoe |
in that case, moving swiftly along |
| 14:43 |
ohiojoe |
#topic old business |
| 14:43 |
ohiojoe |
#topic progress on Web Client docs |
| 14:44 |
kmlussier |
Yes, I think we covered that above when we talked about the web client documentation days. |
| 14:44 |
ohiojoe |
mm, very true |
| 14:45 |
sandbergja |
I had a quick question about it |
| 14:45 |
ohiojoe |
please |
| 14:45 |
sandbergja |
I saw a Cataloging doc staff client rewrite mentioned in the 2.12 doc needs wiki page |
| 14:45 |
sandbergja |
Does anybody have details to share about this? |
| 14:46 |
sandbergja |
Especially, should others hold off on contributing cataloging-related documentation until this re-write is done? |
| 14:46 |
sandbergja |
akilsdonk: is this a project you are working on? |
| 14:46 |
kmlussier |
sandbergja: Remind me. What's the link for that page? |
| 14:47 |
sandbergja |
#link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.12_needs#cataloging |
| 14:48 |
jihpringle |
I'm not seeing it on that page, am I completely missing it? |
| 14:48 |
jihpringle |
nm, just saw where it is |
| 14:48 |
kmlussier |
abneiman: Do you know anything about it? |
| 14:49 |
abneiman |
kmlussier: sorry, I don't -- akilsdonk would be the one to ask, but I don't think she's available right now |
| 14:50 |
* kmlussier |
hopes it means akilsdonk is doing all the cataloging docs for the web client. :D |
| 14:50 |
sandbergja |
abneiman: would you mind checking in with her? |
| 14:51 |
abneiman |
sure, but I do not think she is documenting the entirety of webby cataloging :) |
| 14:51 |
kmlussier |
Darn! |
| 14:51 |
ohiojoe |
shucks |
| 14:51 |
dluch |
Bummer |
| 14:51 |
dluch |
lol |
| 14:51 |
sandbergja |
hahaha hope springs eternal |
| 14:51 |
ohiojoe |
shall we make that an action item? |
| 14:52 |
abneiman |
sure |
| 14:53 |
ohiojoe |
#action abneiman will check on the 2.12 cataloging docs rewrite undertaken by akilsdonk |
| 14:54 |
ohiojoe |
#topic previous action items |
| 14:55 |
sandbergja |
I'm wondering if we could dispense with the missing RDA content action item? |
| 14:55 |
kmlussier |
yes |
| 14:55 |
kmlussier |
please |
| 14:55 |
ohiojoe |
will do |
| 14:55 |
ohiojoe |
excellent |
| 14:55 |
jihpringle |
sandbergja: I searched through my email this morning and could not find anything |
| 14:55 |
sandbergja |
jihpringle: thanks for checking! |
| 14:55 |
jihpringle |
so +1 to dispensing it |
| 14:55 |
kmlussier |
I think that action item started with me about two years ago. |
| 14:56 |
ohiojoe |
looking at them, with Christineb not here, that leaves just 4 and 5.. |
| 14:56 |
kmlussier |
nope |
| 14:56 |
kmlussier |
I inadvertently took one of Christineb's action item. |
| 14:56 |
jihpringle |
I'm sure Christineb has no problem with that kmlussier :) |
| 14:57 |
kmlussier |
We now have an Evergreen-specific YouTube channel. I had forgotten it was discussed at the last meeting. |
| 14:57 |
ohiojoe |
excellent |
| 14:57 |
dluch |
Yay! |
| 14:57 |
kmlussier |
But I will take an action item to see if I can get ChristineB linked up to that channel. |
| 14:57 |
sandbergja |
kmlussier: I think that your 3.0 video would be a good fit for Christineb's playlist too! |
| 14:58 |
sandbergja |
In the spirit of action item #4 |
| 14:58 |
ohiojoe |
Does that mean that 1 and 2 are complete, or just #2? |
| 14:58 |
kmlussier |
#1 hasn't been done. I think we should probably move the videos to the Evergreen channel before adding the link. |
| 14:58 |
kmlussier |
Also, please subscribe to the channel. We need 100 subscribers to get a custom URL. |
| 14:59 |
ohiojoe |
ok, that makes good sense. I can leave that in there for now then |
| 14:59 |
kmlussier |
#link https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC83L8WyXoj8Kf9hShdDY61A |
| 14:59 |
jihpringle |
kmlussier: Christineb is on vacation this week, back next week |
| 14:59 |
dluch |
Just subscribed! |
| 15:00 |
ohiojoe |
#action everyone should subscribe to the Evergreen-specific YouTube channel |
| 15:00 |
dluch |
kmlussier++ |
| 15:00 |
ohiojoe |
I just did as well.. and with that, any other last minute things before we close the meeting? |
| 15:00 |
ohiojoe |
kmlussier++ |
| 15:00 |
abneiman |
one thing from me |
| 15:01 |
ohiojoe |
please |
| 15:01 |
sandbergja |
kmlussier++ |
| 15:01 |
abneiman |
I have a pullrequest up on github for Offline Circulation for the web client; I didn't want to straight up replace the XUL Offline |
| 15:02 |
abneiman |
but that's there if someone wants to look at it. I may have even done it correctly (maybe) :) |
| 15:02 |
sandbergja |
abneiman++ |
| 15:02 |
abneiman |
akilsdonk++ (I had lots of help) |
| 15:02 |
kmlussier |
abneiman: We've been replacing XUL documentation for anything in 2.12 or later. |
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| 15:03 |
ohiojoe |
abneiman++ |
| 15:03 |
dluch |
Cool. abneiman++ |
| 15:03 |
kmlussier |
abneiman++ akilsdonk++ |
| 15:03 |
ohiojoe |
and with that.. |
| 15:03 |
ohiojoe |
#endmeeting |
| 15:03 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Thu Sep 7 15:03:25 2017 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:03 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-09-07-14.01.html |
| 15:03 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-09-07-14.01.txt |
| 15:03 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-09-07-14.01.log.html |
| 15:03 |
ohiojoe |
thank you everyone |
| 15:03 |
dluch |
Thanks, ohiojoe! |
| 15:04 |
dluch |
ohiojoe++ |
| 15:04 |
kmlussier |
ohiojoe++ |
| 15:04 |
jihpringle |
ohiojoe++ |
| 15:04 |
sandbergja |
ohiojoe++ |
| 15:04 |
* dluch |
successfully managed to be at DIG, on a conference call meeting, and eat lunch at the same time |
| 15:04 |
abneiman |
ohiojoe++ |
| 15:04 |
abneiman |
dluch++ # multitasking champ |
| 15:04 |
ohiojoe |
that is some serious skills dluch |
| 15:04 |
ohiojoe |
dluch++ |
| 15:05 |
sandbergja |
dluch++ |
| 15:05 |
jihpringle |
sandbergja kmlussier: we're getting ready to switch from docbook to asciidoc for our local docs and wondering if it's possible to get a copy of CSS style sheets used for the community docs and if so who I should be asking? |
| 15:07 |
kmlussier |
jihpringle: Probably Robert Soulliere is the best person to ask. |
| 15:07 |
jihpringle |
thanks, I'll email him |
| 15:07 |
kmlussier |
jihpringle: Possibly remingtron or yboston? |
| 15:07 |
sandbergja |
jihpringle: You can download the CSS at http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.12/evergreen_doc.css |
| 15:08 |
sandbergja |
but there's a lot that I don't understand about how asciidoc gets styled, apart from the CSS |
| 15:08 |
kmlussier |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:08 |
jihpringle |
great, I'll give that to our sys admin and see if that's what he needs |
| 15:09 |
jihpringle |
thanks :) |
| 15:10 |
sandbergja |
no problem! |
| 15:10 |
sandbergja |
good luck with the docbook/asciidoc switch! |
| 15:12 |
jihpringle |
thanks! we figured we were going to have to update everything for the web client anyways, so the right time to make the switch |
| 15:12 |
jihpringle |
hopefully it will make it easier for us to contribue back to the community docs |
| 15:15 |
jihpringle |
ohiojoe: here's the link for the re-org clean up wiki page if you want to include in the agenda for next month - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:reorg:clean_up |
| 15:16 |
ohiojoe |
excellent. Thank you |
| 15:16 |
jihpringle |
np |
| 15:17 |
sandbergja |
jihpringle++ |
| 15:17 |
ohiojoe |
jihpringle++ |
| 15:18 |
jihpringle |
sandbergja++ the CSS link is what we needed! |
| 15:20 |
dbs |
jihpringle++ # let me know if you need the command I used to convert docbook -> asciidoc during the conference |
| 15:21 |
jihpringle |
thanks dbs++ |
| 15:26 |
_bott_ |
Documenting for posterity... I just chased my tail for a bit trying to figure out why my Web client would only return a Forbidden. I had enabled Indexes for /openils/var/web, and that seems to have been the issue. By adding/removing that Option I can easily recreate/correct the problem. |
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jeffdavis |
kmlussier: did MassLNC ever get anywhere with new feature dev on allowing other patrons to pick up a patron's holds? |
| 16:15 |
kmlussier |
jeffdavis: bug 1661688 |
| 16:15 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1661688 in Evergreen "Want easy way to clear a hold when picked up by other patron" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1661688 - Assigned to Dan Pearl (dpearl) |
| 16:15 |
kmlussier |
C/W MARS is working on it, but there was an issue when I tested it. |
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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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gmcharlt |
webby is now back up and running the beta |
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