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04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1669534 - OPAC hold request should not default to first SMS carrier - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f7deb92>
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10:33 gmcharlt csharp: I've made an updated branch for bug 1098685 if you'd care to test again
10:33 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1098685 in Evergreen "User can select SMS notify without providing a valid address" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098685
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10:51 csharp gmcharlt: trying to test - I think I'm fighting cache but it's still not working for me
10:52 csharp I copied the files from your last commit into place and started testing - if there's something else I need, let me know
10:52 gmcharlt csharp: does view source show holds-validation.js being linked?
10:53 csharp hmm - no
10:53 csharp lemme verify that the files are actually there
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10:53 gmcharlt an apache reload can also clear internal template caching
10:54 csharp ah - that's probably what's going on
11:00 * csharp has to run to a meeting & will resume afterwards
11:02 pinesol_green [evergreen|Liam Whalen] LP#1463166 Fix Batch update of Funds in Selection Lists - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ce1b7dd>
11:02 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1463166 Apply funds from view/place orders and search - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cd8c5f9>
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12:27 miker berick: are you handy?
12:27 berick miker: i am
12:27 miker and have time to maybe look at why some karma tests hate me?
12:27 miker :)
12:29 kmlussier Gee, I wonder what prompted that question. :)
12:29 berick heh
12:29 berick miker: point me at it
12:29 miker kmlussier: yes, I wonder :)
12:29 miker berick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1706107 is the bug
12:29 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1706107 in Evergreen "Offline mode for the Web Client" [Undecided,New]
12:30 miker I'm starting to suspect that lovefield does not like node.js enough to work
12:30 miker kmlussier: hey! since you're here, can I ask you to try something related to that branch?
12:30 miker :)
12:31 berick still based on user/miker/lp-1706107-offline-mode ?
12:31 miker kmlussier: specifically, just using `grunt copy` and `grunt  build` instead of `grunt all`
12:31 miker berick: confirming, sec...
12:32 miker berick: yessir
12:32 kmlussier miker: Now isn't a good time, actually. Sorry!
12:33 miker ok, np
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12:57 pastebot "berick" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "for miker -- karma config update for lovefield" (12 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/596
12:57 berick that fixes the tests for me
12:58 berick fyi, the services have to be loaded in a certain order, that's why it's not a simple services/*.js import
13:09 miker berick: bah ... thanks... I fixed a different test problem a week or so ago with that same thing. I should'a known
13:13 miker kmlussier: so, berick's fix is pushed to the offline branch
13:13 kmlussier miker: OK, I'll take a look when I have a moment.
13:19 kmlussier It would be nice if there were a way to identify words that should never be stemmed. Like 'kissinger.'
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14:18 csharp gmcharlt: I think I've learned why the fix for bug 1098685 - wasn't working for me - it works when I place a hold, but not when I set my notification prefs
14:18 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1098685 in Evergreen "User can select SMS notify without providing a valid address" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098685
14:18 csharp I was expecting the change to apply to the account prefs as well
14:23 * csharp comments on the bug
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14:58 remingtron Dyrcona: are you available to answer a SIPServer question?
14:59 Dyrcona sure
14:59 remingtron what value should I put in the "institution" variable?
14:59 Dyrcona Whatever you want. It isn't really used, IIRC.
15:00 remingtron I have two successful tests from 00sc_status.t, but test 3 fails with "Unable to connect to ILS..."
15:00 Dyrcona I never run those tests...
15:00 remingtron ha
15:00 Dyrcona And, I'm not sure that they work with a real ILS, just the dummy one that comes with SIPServer.
15:01 Dyrcona These are the SIPServer tests, right?
15:01 remingtron yes
15:01 remingtron so basically, a failure of those tests shouldn't concern me?
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15:03 Dyrcona Not in the least if you're talking to a real ILS.
15:03 Dyrcona The test that's failing uses a username of sip_01.
15:04 remingtron cool, thanks for calming my fears.
15:06 Dyrcona heh. it might even fail with the ILS.pm supposed to be used for testing.
15:09 Dyrcona Yeah, looks like it will just plain fail.
15:12 JBoyer remingtron, While you can use just about anything for an institution, it is (can be?) used to select different options for some SIPServer backend options in oils_sip.conf. We have one institution that needs that msg_64_barcode_something_something turned off and another where it's turned on.
15:13 Dyrcona Yeah. It will match up in the configs. I guess I sort of assumed.....
15:13 JBoyer I think you're more likely to get noisy warnings in the logs too if you don't have a matching institution for clients to specify, but that may just be poot memory.
15:14 JBoyer Dyrcona, If this is the first time it's being setup at Calvin you don't want to assume too much; you know how much fun SIP can be, heh.
15:14 Dyrcona :)
15:15 Dyrcona JBoyer: It wasn't a conscious thought.
15:15 remingtron JBoyer: thanks for the added info
15:16 Dyrcona So, yeah, the intsitution matches the institution configs in the oils_sip.xml, and you can have any number of them that you need, and they don't have to match anything in the database.
15:16 Dyrcona you can use shortnames if you want, or just arbitrary names and so on.
15:16 remingtron the official EG docs have a nice intro to SIPServer, which mention institutions in the config
15:17 remingtron Dyrcona: thanks for confirming. I was worried that it needed to match the SIP user's org unit or something
15:18 Dyrcona No. At mvlc we made institutions based on role, like selfcheck vs. patron look up, and so on.
15:18 Dyrcona It also doesn't need to match what the client sends.
15:19 Dyrcona The SIPServer will attempt to correct the client, but most clients ignore the server. :)
15:20 remingtron good to know
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15:28 berick remingtron: if you're planning to create more tests, this may be of value https://github.com/berick/pysip2
15:29 remingtron berick: thanks for sharing. I'm just scratching the surface at the moment, but I'll keep that in mind.
15:30 rhamby berick++ : I've used pysip2 before and it's handy
15:33 * Dyrcona usually uses phpsip2 but has used pysip2
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15:37 berick phpsip2++ also handy Dyrcona, where does that live?  i keep losing the link.
15:39 Dyrcona http://git.mvlcstaff.org/?p=​tsbere/PHPSIP2.git;a=summary
15:39 berick ah, tried git.mvlc.org which ain't a thing
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16:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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17:11 gsams Anyone have advice for completely overhauling permission groups?
17:12 * gmcharlt claims 1050 in the name of miners everywhere!
17:16 pinesol_green [evergreen|Cesar Velez] LP#1480432 - Added tests for permission.usr_perms() change - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1f02799>
17:16 pinesol_green [evergreen|Michele Morgan] LP#1480432: choose broadest depth if staff has same perm multiple times - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2790b6e>
17:16 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1480432: stamp DB update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=db7b67a>
17:16 kmlussier Yay! mmorgan++ cesardv++ gmcharlt++
18:13 csharp gsams: been planning something like that in PINES for some time, but it hasn't risen to the top - I would do it on a test server and work incrementally
18:15 gsams csharp: Seems wise for sure.  We've not really adjusted well over the years and I think sooner would be better than later for this process.
18:17 jihpringle gsams: we overhauled one of our permission group sets a while ago (we have different groups for different library types)
18:17 jihpringle we set up the new permission groups on a test server and then copied them over to our production server when we were ready
18:18 jihpringle and then updated the users to use the new groups
18:18 jihpringle we didn't remove the old groups until we have confirmation that everything was working as expected
18:19 jihpringle it worked well for us, but it was just our K-12 perms we overhauled so only 15 or 16 libraries affected
18:21 gsams jihpringle: awesome, thanks for sharing.  We are only 14 public libraries, so I think we could make that work really well.
18:22 jihpringle gsams: you'
18:22 jihpringle you're welcome :)
18:22 jihpringle let me know if you have questions
18:23 gsams Will do!
18:23 kmlussier @sortinghat
18:23 pinesol_green Hmm... kmlussier... Let me see now... GRYFFINDOR!
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