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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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Bmagic |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Kenya AA, 2003 Crop, and sends it sliding down the bar to alynn26 |
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Bmagic |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
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Bmagic |
ha! |
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Bmagic |
Bots don't need no stinking coffee |
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Bmagic |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Honduras Fernandez Farm, and sends it sliding down the bar to sandbergja |
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kmlussier |
Bmagic: pinesol_green gives special treatment to the bots. |
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kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Lake Tawar, and sends it sliding down the bar to gsams |
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Bmagic |
I bet! |
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gsams |
kmlussier++ #I needed that |
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| 12:48 |
kmlussier |
The other question I wanted to ask on the proposed xul bugfix policy is who gets to be the lucky person to update all those bugs to Won't Fix? |
| 12:49 |
kmlussier |
:) |
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JBoyer |
Are you asking because you want to be the one to do it kmlussier? ;) |
| 13:04 |
kmlussier |
JBoyer: I think I could get a certain level of enjoyment out of it if I were in the right mood. |
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jonadab |
Heh. |
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kmlussier |
The way I used to enjoy weeding when I was in the right mood. |
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* csharp |
loves weeding |
| 13:05 |
jonadab |
I know someone who enjoys shelf reading. No fooling. |
| 13:06 |
kmlussier |
jonadab: I enjoy shelf reading at my local library. |
| 13:06 |
jonadab |
(Though there are certain sections she doesn't enjoy doing. 629 for instance.) |
| 13:06 |
kmlussier |
To be clear, I don't actually work there. |
| 13:06 |
jonadab |
Ah. |
| 13:07 |
kmlussier |
I just reorganize their shelves while I'm looking for books to check out. |
| 13:07 |
kmlussier |
Really. How can you see a book sitting in the wrong place on the shelf and not fix it? |
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* csharp |
does that too |
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csharp |
pop materials is always a mess and I always fix it |
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berick |
kmlussier: re xul bugs, is there actually a list? |
| 13:16 |
kmlussier |
berick: There are ones with a fixedinwebby tab, but, otherwise, no, I think we'll just need to hunt them down. |
| 13:16 |
berick |
gotcha |
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kmlussier |
s/tab/tag |
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berick |
wondering if we should recommend/require wranglers add one of fixedinwebby or xulclient tags to WONTFIX bugs |
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berick |
as a way of indicating the wranger confirmed it's not / no longer a webby problem |
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kmlussier |
It's probably not a bad idea to provide some insight on why it's being set to WONTFIX. Also, it might be handy for to pull those up in the future. |
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berick |
and reporting, good point |
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ohiojoe |
just wanted to let everyone know we'll be having a DIG meeting here in half an hour |
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abneiman |
kmlussier: csharp: glad I'm not the only one who fixes misshelved library books.... |
| 13:43 |
kmlussier |
abneiman / csharp: I don't fix them in the children's room, though. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1411699: Make Dojo conditional for advanced search - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9619a1b> |
| 13:49 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1411699: ensure that Dojo remains available for added content tab - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6273f1d> |
| 13:50 |
alynn26_away |
Has the agenda ben posted for Doc meeting. |
| 13:52 |
ohiojoe |
https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meeting_20170803-agenda |
| 13:52 |
ohiojoe |
I should have said, that's the agenda |
| 13:53 |
ohiojoe |
and DIG meeting in less than 10 minutes everyone.. :-) |
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ohiojoe |
#startmeeting 2017-08-03 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting started Thu Aug 3 14:02:14 2017 US/Eastern. The chair is ohiojoe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to '2017_08_03___documentation_interest_group_meeting' |
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ohiojoe |
the agenda is availble at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meeting_20170803-agenda |
| 14:02 |
ohiojoe |
#topic introductions |
| 14:03 |
ohiojoe |
opps |
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sandbergja |
#info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College |
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jlundgren |
#info jlundgren is jeanette lundgren, C/W MARS |
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alynn26_away |
#info alynn26_away is Lynn Floyd, Anderson Countt Library, SCLENDS. |
| 14:03 |
ohiojoe |
#info ohiojoe is Joe Knueven, Germantown Public Library, Consortium of Ohio Libraries |
| 14:03 |
abneiman |
#info abneiman is Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox |
| 14:04 |
Jen |
#info jen is Jennifer Weston, Davidson County Public Library / NC Cardinal |
| 14:05 |
ohiojoe |
#topic ongoing business |
| 14:05 |
ohiojoe |
you may recall last month I said we would switch the order around since we didn't really get into the on going business category last time |
| 14:06 |
ohiojoe |
#topic Progress on documenting new features in Evergreen 2.12 (and previous) |
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kmlussier |
#info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
| 14:07 |
phasefx |
#info phasefx is Jason Etheridge, Equinox (just lurking, but available) |
| 14:07 |
ohiojoe |
Oh, and hello and welcome everyone.. :-) |
| 14:09 |
terran |
#info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 14:13 |
Christineb |
#info Christineb is Christine Burns, BC Libraries Cooperative / Sitka |
| 14:14 |
ohiojoe |
any thoughts on this? if not we can move along.. |
| 14:15 |
kmlussier |
ohiojoe: I don't know that there's been much progress on 2.12 docs, but the list is here if anyone wants to help out. https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.12_needs&s[]=2&s[]=12&s[]=documentation |
| 14:15 |
Jen |
I have a question. Is there a go-to person for documentation for each release? |
| 14:15 |
kmlussier |
https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.12_needs is a shorter link. |
| 14:16 |
kmlussier |
Jen: There is somebody who creates a page like the one above for each release. |
| 14:17 |
kmlussier |
There is a release coordinator role that I'm passing along to sandbergja, but others have helped out with that page too. |
| 14:17 |
* kmlussier |
still needs to coordinate the transition with sandbergja. :) |
| 14:19 |
sandbergja |
kmlussier: I'm excited! :-) |
| 14:19 |
ohiojoe |
I think perhaps individuals volunteered per release once upon a time, but that appeared to be some time ago.. |
| 14:19 |
ohiojoe |
although I may be mis-remembering (always a possiblity) |
| 14:20 |
kmlussier |
It generally has been that somebody volunteered to create the page and then send it out to the list to get volunteers to work on the documentation. |
| 14:21 |
kmlussier |
And then usually scheduling a doc hackfest around it. |
| 14:21 |
sandbergja |
I wonder if we could get in touch with folks who are listed as "in progress" for old versions |
| 14:21 |
sandbergja |
To see if they had a chance to gather notes that they could pass along |
| 14:22 |
sandbergja |
before those notes disappear forever |
| 14:22 |
sandbergja |
:-) |
| 14:23 |
kmlussier |
Yes, I think that's a good idea. |
| 14:23 |
kmlussier |
I also think I've listed my assignments as complete when they should be in progress. |
| 14:24 |
sandbergja |
I wonder if there's clearer terminology we could use: maybe "In progress", "Submitted to DIG", and "Committed to official docs"? |
| 14:25 |
sandbergja |
Since I think that folks have different definitions of "completed" and "in progress" |
| 14:26 |
kmlussier |
Sounds good to me. |
| 14:26 |
Jen |
+1 to Jane's new terminology |
| 14:26 |
kmlussier |
Does anyone want to take an action item to follow up with the in-progress people? |
| 14:26 |
ohiojoe |
that would have the advantage of showing new folks who happen along what the steps are to completion.. |
| 14:27 |
ohiojoe |
+1 to Jane's suggestion |
| 14:27 |
ohiojoe |
I can follow up with folks |
| 14:27 |
sandbergja |
I could follow up for cataloging-related items |
| 14:28 |
sandbergja |
since, uh, some of the cataloging ones are mine :-) |
| 14:29 |
ohiojoe |
shall we split it then? does anyone else have a desire to jump in? |
| 14:29 |
kmlussier |
Actually, the in progress ones mostly seem to be from 2.11, right? |
| 14:30 |
kmlussier |
For those who are fairly new to DIG, would it be helpful for us to identify some unclaimed tasks that might be bitesize ones? |
| 14:31 |
ohiojoe |
it looks like there are a handful going back at least as far as 2.9.. provided I'm reading things correctly.. |
| 14:31 |
alynn26_away |
+1 for bitsized ones. |
| 14:32 |
ohiojoe |
+1 as well for bite sized tasks |
| 14:32 |
Jen |
kmlussier: Yes - to identifying unclaimed tasks that might be bitesize for new people (like me) |
| 14:32 |
* kmlussier |
can take that as an action item. |
| 14:32 |
kmlussier |
It looks like some already have bitesize tags added to them. |
| 14:33 |
ohiojoe |
#action kmlussier will identify unclaimed bite sized tasks for new DIG participants |
| 14:33 |
kmlussier |
For those who are new to the process, we generally look at the release notes to get an idea of what the feature is. In some cases, we can mostly copy the release notes entry for documentation. |
| 14:34 |
kmlussier |
In some cases, the change may just need to be updated screenshots rather than documentation. |
| 14:35 |
Jen |
Thanks! I will work on some of the older bitesize needs. |
| 14:35 |
ohiojoe |
and it looks like Jane and I will follow on the in-progress then? |
| 14:37 |
ohiojoe |
#action sandbergja and ohiojoe will follow-up with assigned "in-progress" users to try to preserve any progress made but not submitted |
| 14:38 |
ohiojoe |
#topic Progress on Docs Reorganization project |
| 14:38 |
sandbergja |
I would love some guidance here! |
| 14:39 |
sandbergja |
I'd like to gather some feedback on the reorganized manuals on the test server |
| 14:39 |
sandbergja |
What's the best way of going about the feedback gathering, do you think? |
| 14:42 |
kmlussier |
sandbergja: Have you sent out anything to one of the lists (docs or general) showing the changes you've made? |
| 14:42 |
kmlussier |
I feel like you have, but I'm not finding it. |
| 14:43 |
sandbergja |
kmlussier: I thought so too, but it looks like I haven't |
| 14:43 |
sandbergja |
ohiojoe: could you put that down as an action item for me, please? |
| 14:44 |
ohiojoe |
#action sandbergja will email one or more lists seeking feedback on reorganized manuals on the test server |
| 14:44 |
kmlussier |
sandbergja: If you don't get much feedback via the list, it might be worth scheduling another meeting focused on the reorg project. |
| 14:44 |
kmlussier |
But it would be good to see if you can get good discussion on the list first. |
| 14:45 |
sandbergja |
sounds like a plan |
| 14:45 |
kmlussier |
For reference: |
| 14:45 |
kmlussier |
#link http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org/ |
| 14:45 |
ohiojoe |
any other thoughts here before we move on? |
| 14:46 |
ohiojoe |
#topic Progress on documentation launchpad bugs |
| 14:48 |
kmlussier |
#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bugs?field.tag=documentation |
| 14:49 |
ohiojoe |
opps, I should of done that |
| 14:49 |
ohiojoe |
+1 kmlussier |
| 14:49 |
ohiojoe |
er kmlussier++ |
| 14:49 |
kmlussier |
I think people get to them when they have time. jlundgren has worked on some over the past few months. |
| 14:49 |
kmlussier |
jlundgren++ |
| 14:50 |
kmlussier |
There may also be some nice bitesize ones there that would be good for people just starting out. |
| 14:51 |
Jen |
I will be happy to give that a try, too. |
| 14:52 |
kmlussier |
It looks like we have a bitesize-doc tag too. https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize-doc |
| 14:53 |
ohiojoe |
excellent, I'll have to look through those too then |
| 14:55 |
kmlussier |
yes |
| 14:55 |
kmlussier |
Oops. Wrong window. Sorry! |
| 14:56 |
ohiojoe |
:-) |
| 14:56 |
ohiojoe |
#topic New Business |
| 14:57 |
ohiojoe |
#topic Web Client Documenation Days |
| 14:57 |
ohiojoe |
opps |
| 14:57 |
ohiojoe |
#topic Web Client Documentation Days set to August 23rd and September 27th |
| 14:58 |
ohiojoe |
I wanted to get those in there before we wrap up, as a reminder especially to others who might glance at the minutes but missed the email |
| 14:59 |
ohiojoe |
and with that we're coming up on the hour. Does anyone have any objections to pushing our old business to next month? |
| 14:59 |
sandbergja |
works for me! |
| 14:59 |
kmlussier |
No objections here |
| 15:01 |
ohiojoe |
well, seeing no objections, thank you everyone |
| 15:01 |
ohiojoe |
#endmeeeting |
| 15:01 |
ohiojoe |
#endmeeting |
| 15:01 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Thu Aug 3 15:01:15 2017 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:01 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-08-03-14.02.html |
| 15:01 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-08-03-14.02.txt |
| 15:01 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-08-03-14.02.log.html |
| 15:01 |
sandbergja |
ohiojoe++ |
| 15:01 |
kmlussier |
ohiojoe++ |
| 15:02 |
ohiojoe |
we can start with old business next month, go back and forth as need be |
| 15:03 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: I think you encountered another patron registration bug that got fixed in .4 |
| 15:03 |
* kmlussier |
finds the bug number |
| 15:03 |
Dyrcona |
That's what I'm starting to think. |
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kmlussier |
bug 1702756 |
| 15:05 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1702756 in Evergreen "Browser patron register UI fails to load" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1702756 |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, that's it based on my console log. |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier++ |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
I wasn't finding that bug searching for "patron registration" |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
Lp search is awful. |
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kmlussier |
Because you have to go to advanced search to expand results to Fix Released bugs. |
| 15:10 |
kmlussier |
And the word registration doesn't appear on the bug |
| 15:16 |
Dyrcona |
Right, I did that. I was searching for "patron registration" but the bug is named for "patron register." |
| 15:16 |
Dyrcona |
Like I said.... |
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* Dyrcona |
signs out real quick to reboot his firewall. |
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ejk |
Hi all, long time lurker here. I've been trying to develop a PHP library to do OpenSRF calls via the OpenSRF http gateway. I've been able to get calls that use simple parameters to work, but I'm having trouble calling methods that use OpenSRF objects as a parameter. I think I just don't have the parameters set up correctly, anybody have any experience? |
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Dyrcona |
jeffdavis: Have you been in touch with Overdrive about using their integration environment, or rather have they been in touch with you? |
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jeffdavis |
Dyrcona: do you mean having generic (rather than Sitka specific) access to that environment for EG devs? |
| 16:06 |
jeffdavis |
Or just in general? |
| 16:13 |
Dyrcona |
I'm not sure. I requested Patron Authentication API and they responded about using their integration envoronment. |
| 16:14 |
Dyrcona |
They said, "We are currently speaking with an Evergreen contributor and have not been able to set up a test environment." |
| 16:14 |
Dyrcona |
Among other things. |
| 16:30 |
jeffdavis |
They must mean me. I requested access to their integration environment for Sitka (not for the broader EG community) - looks like they didn't receive part of my request and followed up while I was on vacation. |
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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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jeffdavis |
Dyrcona: I sent them a follow up attempting to explain that my access to their API doesn't preclude others'. |
| 16:55 |
Dyrcona |
jeffdavis: OK. I'm going to discuss it with others here to see where our priorities are. I don't think i really have time for it right now. |
| 17:00 |
jeffdavis |
It shouldn't be necessary to jump through hoops to use what's there. I'll press them further on this depending on their response. |
| 17:05 |
Dyrcona |
OK. I was thinking it might be a matter of changing code or settings on training, but I don't know. |
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Dyrcona |
I'm signing out now. TTYL. |
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