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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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| 09:02 |
Dyrcona |
Interesting results from pgbench on my new hardware. |
| 09:02 |
Dyrcona |
I get best read only throughput at 40 connections, but more connections seems better for read/write. |
| 09:02 |
Dyrcona |
I'll share the raw results later. |
| 09:14 |
Dyrcona |
It would be nice if I could benchmark our current production server for comparison. |
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Dyrcona |
I'm afraid that might interfere with performance too much. |
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Dyrcona |
Results of my testing are so far mixed. Read only seems to be highly connection-dependent. |
| 10:05 |
Dyrcona |
Oddly, at 40 connections, the read only test performed 0.9% worse with ht on, but at 80 connections the results were 7.5% better with ht on. |
| 10:08 |
* Dyrcona |
has no idea what the margin of error would be..... |
| 10:08 |
miker |
Dyrcona: HT with PG is pretty dependent on both PG version and the on-die caches, fwiw |
| 10:08 |
miker |
size of the caches, obv |
| 10:08 |
Dyrcona |
miker: Yep, I'm aware of that. |
| 10:09 |
miker |
and the shape of the workload, of course. I'm interested in the deets, btw :) |
| 10:09 |
Dyrcona |
It's the same machine so same hardware and pg version between tests. |
| 10:09 |
miker |
I figured it was the same machine, more just curious about the details |
| 10:10 |
Dyrcona |
I also rebooted before starting each test run, initalized the pg bench tables each time, and haven't messed with cache deliberately. |
| 10:10 |
Dyrcona |
I'll share the details later. |
| 10:10 |
Dyrcona |
The hardware is kind of insane. :) |
| 10:11 |
Dyrcona |
It will be a couple of hours, maybe tomorrow, before I can share. |
| 10:12 |
Dyrcona |
I'm just starting the read/write tests with ht off. |
| 10:12 |
Freddy_Enrique |
@coffee anyone |
| 10:12 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Yirga Cheffe Koke Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to anyone |
| 10:13 |
Dyrcona |
Also, I'm using ZFS just because. :) |
| 10:27 |
miker |
Dyrcona++ # TIA |
| 11:11 |
jonadab |
I have heard good things about zfs. |
| 11:12 |
Dyrcona |
miker: My simple testing shows a boost with HT on with Pg 9.5: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dU8iwKVBHtPrOjULBe3oFnFxaB1tqT9T7Gxu740t6kM/edit?usp=sharing |
| 11:13 |
Dyrcona |
I'll write something up about what I did and the hardware specs in a bit. |
| 11:13 |
Dyrcona |
jonadab: Yeah, ZFS has been great so far. Very simple to set up on the NVMe drives. :) |
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| 11:33 |
miker |
aaaaand, LP is timing out on comments... |
| 11:34 |
miker |
kmlussier: I think this is relevant to your interests: http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/435 |
| 11:35 |
kmlussier |
miker: Thanks! Looks like it's an easy enough fix. |
| 11:53 |
berick |
can't remember, can you search marc tags / subfields via the regular query parser api -- specifically, the record bucket bib query input |
| 11:56 |
berick |
@marc 500 |
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pinesol_green |
berick: General information for which a specialized 5XX note field has not been defined. (Repeatable) [a,3,5,6,8] |
| 12:05 |
Freddy_Enrique |
ohh...... so I can ask our friend pinesol for a specific marc tag. Ill give it a try |
| 12:05 |
Freddy_Enrique |
@marc 952 |
| 12:05 |
pinesol_green |
Freddy_Enrique: unknown tag 952 |
| 12:05 |
Freddy_Enrique |
ok....... |
| 12:05 |
berick |
heh |
| 12:08 |
miker |
berick: nope. could be done with an addition to QP |
| 12:09 |
berick |
miker: thanks. may have lucked out in this case, found an index roughly matching the marc query I wanted to make |
| 12:10 |
berick |
i guess the broader question, short of an index or QP change, it's not possible (in the UI) to easily go from marc tag query to bucket |
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Dyrcona |
Freddy_Enrique: MARC tags > 900 are not defined in the standard. They are left alone for local use. |
| 12:48 |
Freddy_Enrique |
Dyrcona: thanks, I wasnt aware of that |
| 12:49 |
Freddy_Enrique |
btw, are you the same on the other forum? |
| 12:49 |
Dyrcona |
Freddy_Enrique: That's true for the USA, it may be different in other countries. :) |
| 12:49 |
Dyrcona |
Freddy_Enrique: Yes, I hang out in the koha channel to spy on the competition. :) |
| 12:49 |
Freddy_Enrique |
Jajajajaja |
| 12:50 |
Freddy_Enrique |
I dont know if that was a meeting or a fight session |
| 12:50 |
Dyrcona |
But seriously, we sometimes collaborate on things. |
| 12:50 |
Freddy_Enrique |
Really? koha and evergreen. Just imagine |
| 12:51 |
Dyrcona |
In the end though, most of the things end up being incompatible. |
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Freddy_Enrique |
eh...kmlussier too :) |
| 13:51 |
kmlussier |
Huh? What did I do? |
| 13:51 |
Dyrcona |
Freddy_Enrique: You'll find a few of us in the koha channel. |
| 13:51 |
Freddy_Enrique |
@me doesn't feel lonely on the other forum |
| 13:51 |
pinesol_green |
Freddy_Enrique: git diff origin/hamster Fleshing children complete |
| 13:52 |
Freddy_Enrique |
what did I.... |
| 13:52 |
Dyrcona |
You want /me |
| 13:52 |
Freddy_Enrique |
Do not worry, I'm in the Koha channel watching some conversation |
| 13:52 |
Freddy_Enrique |
yeah...my bad |
| 13:53 |
Freddy_Enrique |
still getting used to it |
| 13:53 |
Dyrcona |
If the bot sees what looks like a command it doesn't understand, it runs the dunno command. |
| 13:53 |
bshum |
It's good to look at all the options out there |
| 13:53 |
Dyrcona |
@dunno |
| 13:53 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Have you tried throwing it across the room? |
| 13:53 |
Freddy_Enrique |
I see! |
| 13:53 |
bshum |
Fun group of folks in #koha |
| 13:54 |
Freddy_Enrique |
You are right! ^_^ |
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* bshum |
still thinks KohaCon was awesome |
| 13:54 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 14:01 |
hbain |
Question: is Library of Congress data through z39.50 also a subscription service? |
| 14:09 |
kmlussier |
hbain: No |
| 14:10 |
hbain |
Does it require some other kind of setup? I don't get any results when searching |
| 14:11 |
Dyrcona |
Is the government shutdown for some reason? |
| 14:12 |
berick |
i just did an LoC Z39 author search for King on a dev server and got results. |
| 14:12 |
berick |
no extra setup |
| 14:12 |
Dyrcona |
That's a serious question because they do turn those services off during a shutdown. |
| 14:13 |
hbain |
Okay, I'll talk to my tech guy! Thank you! |
| 14:15 |
miker |
hbain: you'll need to be able to talk to the appropriate port, outbound (don't recall which OTTOMH). Could be a firewall thing if your server is behind one. |
| 14:15 |
miker |
s/you'll/your server will/ |
| 14:15 |
Dyrcona |
Usually port 210 |
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Bmagic |
kmlussier: build time? |
| 16:21 |
Bmagic |
So, am I building 2.12.4? All patches merged? |
| 16:22 |
Dyrcona |
@eightball Should Bmagic build 2.12.4? |
| 16:22 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Obviously. |
| 16:22 |
Bmagic |
perfect! |
| 16:24 |
dbwells |
I am also starting the build of 2.11.7 |
| 16:26 |
Dyrcona |
Are the release notes ready? |
| 16:27 |
Bmagic |
@eightball Are the release notes ready? |
| 16:27 |
pinesol_green |
Bmagic: No chance. |
| 16:27 |
Bmagic |
Guess not |
| 16:30 |
dbwells |
miker: please feel free to wave a red flag if you need to check or push anything for 2.11. |
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dbwells |
Bmagic: yeah, hmm, not seeing a release notes commit in 2.11. I think it's alright to adjust those later if needed, but not opposed to waiting either. |
| 16:33 |
Bmagic |
I vote wait |
| 16:34 |
kmlussier |
Hi! |
| 16:35 |
Dyrcona |
Hello! :) |
| 16:35 |
kmlussier |
Sorry, I've been dealing with the Internet going down throughout the day. The release totally slipped my mind. I merged everything I was planning to merge on Monday. |
| 16:35 |
kmlussier |
But I didn't get to the release notes. I can work on those now and have them ready for the morning if you all are okay with doing it then. |
| 16:36 |
kmlussier |
I think there are a lot. |
| 16:37 |
dbwells |
kmlussier: glad to see you pop in! Although eightball was doing an alright job filling in. |
| 16:37 |
Bmagic |
kmlussier: tomorrow is fine with me |
| 16:37 |
dbwells |
kmlussier: Bmagic: I don't think anyone is holding their breath, I am fine with tomorrow as well. |
| 16:38 |
kmlussier |
OK, thanks dbwells and Bmagic! Sorry for dropping the ball. |
| 16:38 |
Bmagic |
Glad kmlussier came, I was holding my breath..... and now I will live another day |
| 16:38 |
kmlussier |
@blame comcast |
| 16:38 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: Your failure is now complete, comcast. |
| 16:39 |
kmlussier |
@praise @eightball |
| 16:39 |
* pinesol_green |
@eightball LOVES the RESISTANCE! |
| 16:39 |
Dyrcona |
@praise [eightball] |
| 16:39 |
* pinesol_green |
It shall be. is the very model of a modern major hacker |
| 16:40 |
Bmagic |
bots++ |
| 16:41 |
Bmagic |
bots-- |
| 16:47 |
kmlussier |
Wow! paxed is getting credit in this series of release notes. :) |
| 16:56 |
berick |
before I open an LP, is there any way to create a staff bucket from a catalog search? as in, search, then click a button, enter bucket name, all search results go into bucket. |
| 16:56 |
berick |
not seeing anything, but I've not-seen things before |
| 16:57 |
Bmagic |
not that I have seen |
| 16:58 |
Bmagic |
The basic bucket interface has a tab where you can search.... but it's not the same |
| 17:01 |
pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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kmlussier |
@hate comcast |
| 17:03 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: But kmlussier already hates comcast! |
| 17:03 |
kmlussier |
@hate comcast even more |
| 17:03 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The operation succeeded. kmlussier hates comcast even more. |
| 17:03 |
kmlussier |
berick: Something like this? http://masslnc.org/node/3304 It won't add all search results to a bucket. But users will be able to select results and add them to a bucket. |
| 17:06 |
kmlussier |
I think we were concerned about performing actions on all search results in case the search was overly broad, like a keyword search for 'history.' |
| 17:10 |
miker |
dbwells: no red flags to wave, he said 40 mins later |
| 17:10 |
dbwells |
miker: thank you |
| 17:12 |
miker |
berick: "all search results" is frightening to me, also :) |
| 17:14 |
berick |
yeah, i'm assuming there would be some configured limit, maybe a warning, etc. |
| 17:15 |
berick |
kmlussier: yeah, pretty much that. that's clearly more flexible |
| 17:16 |
berick |
a limited add-all option would still be useful in some cases |
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kmlussier |
berick: It won't be ready for 3.0, but we are moving forward with that project. |
| 17:17 |
berick |
kmlussier: oh, nice, even better |
| 17:17 |
berick |
thanks for pointing me at that |
| 17:18 |
* kmlussier |
should file LP bugs for that and other development projects. |
| 17:25 |
kmlussier |
2.11 release notes are done. I'll finish 2.12 tonight. |
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