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04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:57 Freddy_Enrique Good morning everyone
09:59 kmlussier Freddy_Enrique: Good morning!@
10:00 Freddy_Enrique coffee?
10:02 Dyrcona @coffee Freddy_Enrique
10:02 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Kenya Peaberry Thika Gethumbwini, and sends it sliding down the bar to Freddy_Enrique
10:02 Dyrcona @tea
10:02 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Laoshan Black, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona (http://ratetea.com/tea/ver​dant/laoshan-black/6664/)
10:33 csharp hmm - interesting: https://metacpan.org/pod/Email::Send
10:33 csharp "Email::Send is going away... well, not really going away, but it's being officially marked "out of favor." It has API design problems that make it hard to usefully extend and rather than try to deprecate features and slowly ease in a new interface, we've released Email::Sender which fixes these problems and others. As of today, 2008-12-19, Email::Sender is young, but it's fairly well-tested. Please cons
10:33 csharp ider using it instead for any new work."
10:36 Dyrcona Yeah, that rings a bell. Think I've known that for a while.
10:36 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1466502 ?
10:36 Dyrcona I believe our use of Email::Send predates that though.
10:36 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1466502 in Evergreen "Replace Email::Send with Email::Sender" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
10:36 csharp gotcha
10:36 csharp bshum: thanks
10:37 Dyrcona And, yeah. :)
10:37 csharp yep - same issue here as Dyrcona mentioned in comment 1
10:37 Dyrcona "Time permitting" kind of like the "Get out of jail free" card. :)
10:40 Dyrcona Yeah, looks like we've "known" for 3 years. :)
10:40 Dyrcona lp 1362260
10:40 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1362260 in Evergreen 2.7 "Email::Send is deprecated" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362260
10:41 Dyrcona So bug squashing week corresponds with my vacation in the woods.
10:41 Dyrcona Depending on what's going on, maybe I'll look at it (not likely).
10:42 * Dyrcona has a db server to unbox and set up.
10:52 kmlussier If I were vacationing in the woods, the only bugs I would worry about are the kind with 6 legs and antennae.
10:54 Dyrcona :)
10:56 * kmlussier just realized she scheduled her vacation during the August maintenance release.
10:56 jvwoolf1 Is anybody using the ebook integration as-is in 2.12? Or are you waiting until circulation is in play?
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11:02 Freddy_Enrique *reading the manual while listening megalovania
11:21 Dyrcona jvwoolf1: We're testing it on training, but I've only had reports that someone's circulations are not showing up and have not looked into it.
11:22 gsams So it looks like we've had reports start duplicating for some reason, has anyone ever seen that happen?
11:27 csharp gsams: outputs or scheduled reports?
11:27 gsams csharp: schedule reports
11:27 csharp I've seen clark-kent.pl hiccup before creating many multiples of outputs
11:28 gsams yeah, I have some duplicates that have made it up to 600+ copies in the schedule
11:28 gsams I'd like to fix that before turning things back on
11:28 csharp gsams: are they recurring? or new reports
11:28 csharp ?
11:28 gsams looks like it started on the first
11:28 gsams recurring
11:28 csharp gsams: yeah, that's probably clark freaking out
11:29 csharp 7/1 is first day after end of FY, so super crazy
11:29 csharp probably a badly-formed report that swallowed up RAM or processors and clark spawned way too many processes
11:30 csharp general advice is just to make sure your reports server is well-resourced and that not too many concurrent are running at a time
11:31 gsams csharp: It's been fine for the most part, but I'll definitely double check things to make sure it's not running off the hook
11:32 gsams csharp++
11:32 gsams now to figure out how best to dedup this thing.
11:35 jvwoolf1 Drycona: Thanks. I was having the same issue with circs not showing up, but just figured out that we don't have an API key for patron authentication. So, that would do it.
11:35 jvwoolf1 Dyrcona++
11:35 Dyrcona jvwoolf1: I think it might be we don't have all of the records loaded, but I've not really looked.
11:36 miker gsams: you can get duplicates if you kill the clark process (or it gets killed by, say, OOM killer) rather than cancelling the postgres backend (if you're manually trying to stop a run-away report).
11:36 Dyrcona Right this minute, I'm trying to figure something out about the drive configuration in my new db server.
11:36 jvwoolf1 Dyrcona: I could see where that would take precedence.
11:37 gsams miker: I'm just back from a full week of being sick, so I'm fuzzy on some details.  I'll certainly entertain that that is a possibility all things considered.
11:38 gsams I'd even wager that's exactly what may have happened.  I'll have to see if I can remember if anything funky happened on the 30th or the 1st.
11:45 gsams miker++
11:46 gsams I believe that was likely the cause of our problem, possibly trying to stop a run-away report.
11:46 gsams now back to figuring out how best to fix the duplicates and get reports back up and running
12:05 jeff good luck. i recall that when a scheduled report would fail to complete (say, due to a transient error like the reporting database being offline for maintenance), the error caused the reports to not be scheduled for their next run time. annoying when you had dozens or hundreds of recurring reports.
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12:54 * gsams breathes a sigh of relief as duplicates have been dealt with.
13:06 csharp gsams: awesome
13:13 csharp ugh - I'm going to have to go crawling back to comcast - we're moving into an area without AT&T fiber :-/
13:13 csharp monopolies--
13:18 kmlussier csharp: :(
13:20 csharp https://frinkiac.com/video/S06E13​/pAAuCDj_kpPInhg8BO0htp5S2fs=.gif
13:22 * Dyrcona crosses his fingers. First boot of the new db server with Ubuntu installed.
13:24 Dyrcona Yay! I have a login prompt.
13:36 csharp heh
13:43 Freddy_Enrique ^_^
13:45 Freddy_Enrique One question guys, here I can ask question in real time about the EG system, but when it comes to library terms, marc, etc. What forum do you recommend me?
13:47 Freddy_Enrique There are some terms im not familair with, and I don't really think I can ask them here.
13:49 miker Freddy_Enrique: you could start here
13:49 miker esp if they related to how Evergreen intersects with those terms
13:51 Freddy_Enrique no problem, great :). Then I'm gonna finish first the this chapter of the manual
13:57 Dyrcona zfs: Where have you been all my life?
13:58 Dyrcona zfs++
14:00 Dyrcona So, what's the recommendation? Should I install PostgreSQL 9.5 from Ubuntu packages for Ubuntu 16.04, or should I use the PostgreSQL community packages?
14:08 csharp Dyrcona: we use the PostgreSQL-provided packages
14:09 Dyrcona csharp: That's how I'm leaning. We're using them for 9.2 in production.
14:09 Dyrcona csharp++ # One opinion is enough for me. :)
14:14 miker Dyrcona: IMO, always use the pgdg packages
14:16 miker faster bug fix updates, eternal upgrades even on EOL'd distros (assuming basic deps are met)
14:20 Dyrcona miker++ # Thanks, also.
14:51 Dyrcona Now, to tune the beast.
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16:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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