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04:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:22 JBoyer It's a proper good time trying to use 'time' to verify the run time of a script only to find out it's over 5000 minutes because psql called more and just sat there until I pressed 'q' this morning.
08:23 JBoyer So depending on settings that script can apparently run anywhere from moments after I looked away to slightly before the heat death of the universe.
08:29 dbs JBoyer++
08:31 * dbs is going to go back to batch importing/overlaying records via psql and a staging table, he's had to handhold this batch of 28K records all weekend and is still only through 22K
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09:07 rhamby anyone on this AM with admin for gitolite?  (I want to swap out my ssh pub key)
09:08 gmcharlt rhamby: gitadmin@evergreen-ils.org is the general answer
09:08 gmcharlt (and I'm one of them)
09:09 rhamby gmcharlt: and I should have known that but somehow didn't remember (and I know you are but trying to not ping people directly who may be busy)
09:09 Dyrcona So am I.
09:09 rhamby I'll email the email :)
09:12 rhamby Now I'll return to guzzling coffee and doing oracle extracts..... (thank you both for responding gmcharlt++ Dyrcona++)
09:12 gmcharlt rhamby: just be sure not to mix up the order of operations ;)
09:13 rhamby gmcharlt: the laptop is still under warranty right?  (joking, joking)
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09:27 gmcharlt good morning
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09:29 gmcharlt as a heads up, the following patches that have a pullrequest and (a) a signoff by me, which (b) have not be reviewed by anybody else, and (c) which have been in that state for a week... will be merged by me this afternoon unless somebody gets to it first or expresses an objection
09:29 gmcharlt bug 1684984
09:29 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1684984 in Evergreen "Internal Flag ingest.disable_metabib_field_entry not used" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684984
09:29 gmcharlt bug 1616220
09:29 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1616220 in Evergreen "XUL Staff Client CSS Fixes" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1616220
09:30 gmcharlt bug 1230301 (for which I will also write a release notes entry)
09:30 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1230301 in Evergreen "reporter needs a "staff working location" source" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1230301
09:30 gmcharlt fin
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12:45 Bmagic @who split IRC
12:45 pinesol_green wsmoak split IRC.
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12:47 Bmagic So, I have this idea. I would like to create a web video series to help people edit the Evergreen code. Starting with how to setup a Evergreen server.
12:49 Bmagic Divide the information into manageable chunks. Chapter 1: Installing Virtual Box. Chapter 2: Installing Ubuntu..... Perhaps, have a recorded webinar audience where we can have some QnA at the end of each installment.
12:50 kmlussier Bmagic: Sounds like a good idea to me.
12:52 csharp Bmagic++
12:53 Bmagic I am thinking MS Windows, Ubuntu VM, Samba from the VM to the host. Ubuntu could git clone the repo into the samba'd folder. Use Windows editors, click save, then recompile EG from prompt.
13:42 berick don't imaging "it's easier to set up samba and edit with notepad" will be appearing on vim.org any time soon.
13:47 csharp might be easier to use something like WinSCP
13:49 miker berick: but it might on gnu.org/s/emacs
13:50 * miker couldn't resist the softball
13:54 * csharp moves PINES production to GNU Hurd
13:54 wsmoak whaaaaat... did I do?
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13:55 csharp :-)
13:55 Dyrcona :)
13:56 Dyrcona miker: Emacs has tramp mode, just open the file over ssh or scp in Emacs. (I know you were joking, but I gotta represent.) :)
13:58 Dyrcona It can even sudo. :)
13:59 Bmagic berick: vim doesn't provide a file browser UI. I was thinking of leveraging the (maybe familiar) Windows Explorer, then might as well use Eclipse or notepad while we are exposed to Windows
14:00 Bmagic This is the discussion I was hoping for though. "What is the easiest way for the beginner?"
14:01 wsmoak As someone who might actually play with it... "Installing Ubuntu" does not sound like that much fun... has anyone tried to get it all working in Docker ?
14:01 Dyrcona wsmoak: Funny you should ask.... :)
14:02 Bmagic wsmoak: The plan was to utilize the docker container so we can skip over the gruling EG install
14:03 Bmagic wsmoak: but you still have to install an operating system that supports docker. Also, youtube already has about 100 videos installing Ubuntu on VB
14:03 Dyrcona Bmagic: I'm not really sure what is easiest for the beginner, but I have some thoughts on what would be best for them in the long run.
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14:05 Dyrcona But yeah, the Ubuntu install is a piece of cake compared to the rest of  it.
14:05 Bmagic Dyrcona: As a beginner learns, he/she will understand what is underneath and start using other tools. I am making that assumption. I need the lowest bar of entry as possible
14:06 Dyrcona Bmagic: I get where you are coming from.
14:07 Dyrcona I think telling them to ssh to the vm might be easier than telling them to set up Samba.
14:07 Bmagic I think Samba could be included in the docker container
14:07 Dyrcona Yes, it could be.
14:07 Bmagic so, just one more port passed in
14:08 Bmagic -p 445:445
14:09 Dyrcona In that case, it might be easier to use samba assuming the user is familiar with adding drive shares in Windows.
14:10 Bmagic I think the focus should be the code, saving changes, see the effects. And a chapter on git specifically in the EG context. But setting up the test server needs to be dead easy
14:11 Dyrcona OK.
14:13 Dyrcona I like the idea. Sounds like you're heading in a good direction. Do you want any specific help beyond asking some questions about it at this point?
14:14 Dyrcona And, whaddya know... My ingest is still running in training. I forget no when I started it, but it was last week sometime, wasn't it?
14:14 Dyrcona s/no //
14:16 Dyrcona Bmagic: tmcanna's email reminds me you might want to see what dbwells and remington are doing, or maybe you have already.
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14:54 pinesol_green [evergreen|Josh Stompro] LP#1616220 Fixes for css errors that show up in the xul staff client console. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3c35e94>
14:55 * gmcharlt claims 1035 in the name of duck callers everywhere!
14:56 Dyrcona :)
14:58 gmcharlt bshum: ping
14:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP#1684984: Remove obsolete ingest.disable_metabib_field_entry flag. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=170acf4>
14:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP#1684984: Remove obsolete ingest.disable_metabib_field_entry flag. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=86f73e8>
14:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1684984: stamp DB update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=06b170f>
15:01 bshum gmcharlt: pong
15:02 gmcharlt bshum: last week (?) you were mentioning working on a i18n cleanup branch - is there anything pending to merge?
15:02 gmcharlt asking because of a fm_IDL.xml change I'll be merging momentarily
15:03 bshum gmcharlt: Go ahead and merge your change first
15:03 gmcharlt bshum: OK
15:03 bshum We can re-run the PO template sync again
15:03 bshum At this point, it's already become a continually moving target
15:04 bshum I think in my working branch, it didn't contain the change last week for adding "description" field to the circ and hold matrix tables
15:04 bshum So, we're already behind
15:04 gmcharlt ok
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15:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1230301 - Add User/Working Location Map Link to the ILS User reports source. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1ce2436>
15:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1230301: add release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8278aab>
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16:30 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
16:45 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1257915 - Mark POs received when all lineitems are received or canceled. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=22f8712>
16:45 pinesol_green [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1257915 - Also check whether to mark the PO received when canceling. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ee186a7>
16:45 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1257915 Repair receive-when-cancel query - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=acc105d>
16:45 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1257915: add live_t tests - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3e78c58>
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18:21 berick hm, z39 query 'find bladerunner' creating searches for 'srw.serverchoice:bladerunner'.
18:21 berick a mystery for tomorrow
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22:16 bshum @later tell gmcharlt In reviewing bugs like LP 1681943, I'm concerned about backporting CSS changes to supported branches like rel_2_12 where we haven't yet decided how to handle the RTL+LTR merge changes.  It's going to get harder and harder as master drifts ahead.
22:16 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
22:16 bshum https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1681943
22:16 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1681943 in Evergreen "Improve Responsive Design in My Lists" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
22:16 bshum (for links in logs)
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22:58 bshum berick++ # ansible installer is nice (especially when modifying settings.yml to grab working branches instead of just regular Evergreen master) :D

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