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pinesol_green |
News from qatests: Test Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: adding more to the config.tt2 variable list - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=92ebc0a> |
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* csharp |
preps tough questions for gmcharlt about his campaign's collusion with the Russians to discredit dbwells |
| 08:25 |
kmlussier |
csharp: But what about the time dbwells conducted his own collusion with the Russians? Why aren't you asking about that? ;) |
| 08:26 |
csharp |
FAKE GIT COMMITS! |
| 08:27 |
* csharp |
really needs to stop constantly reading politics news :-/ |
| 08:27 |
Dyrcona |
It's not news. It's propaganda, Comrade. |
| 08:31 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: You might know the answer to this: Should our utility server run its own memcached? |
| 08:32 |
Dyrcona |
That fake git commits things makes me want to say, "Git can't lie." ;) |
| 08:32 |
Dyrcona |
But you can erase commits which is kind of like lying by omission. |
| 08:37 |
Dyrcona |
I love it when I think I fix a typo in a web form only to have the typo show up after I submit the form. |
| 08:37 |
rhamby |
gdunbar: kmlussier: you'll have to chat among yourselves about edits for a while, I need to pack up and head to the office |
| 08:38 |
rhamby |
graced: ^^^ |
| 08:40 |
graced |
rhamby: feel free to buy yourself some donuts on the way in, you deserve them |
| 08:40 |
rhamby |
heh |
| 08:43 |
gmcharlt |
@blame add $who crafted the perfect SHA-1 collision, breaking Git |
| 08:43 |
pinesol_green |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Blame #26 added. |
| 08:43 |
gmcharlt |
@blame 26 gmcharlt |
| 08:43 |
pinesol_green |
gmcharlt: gmcharlt crafted the perfect SHA-1 collision, breaking Git |
| 08:43 |
gmcharlt |
csharp: I trust that answers your questions ;) |
| 08:44 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 08:44 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: and to answer yours, it can, as the util server doesn't need to share auth sessions or anything else with the app servers |
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Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: OK. I may need to open a ticket in a bit. I think my issues with the file upload error and possibly something else have to do with the memcached setup here. I'm waiting on some answers to some questions. |
| 08:46 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: ok |
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csharp |
gmcharlt++ |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jeanette Lundgren] lp1453205 replaced Target_Pickup_Lib1.jpg - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7ef6bba> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: Updating column picker docs for Web client - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8d4de6c> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Merge branch 'master' of git.evergreen-ils.org:Evergreen - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0c25f1c> |
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gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: out of curiosity, do you have your Launchpad script published anywhere? |
| 09:56 |
gmcharlt |
*scripts |
| 10:03 |
Dyrcona |
No. i'll have to share them later. right now I don't feel so good. |
| 10:04 |
Dyrcona |
I have a headache that's getting worse, so I've decided to make it a sick day. |
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kmlussier |
Dyrcona: I hope you feel better soon! |
| 10:09 |
terran |
Dyrcona: Rest and get well! |
| 10:19 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: get well soon! |
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rhamby |
Dyrcona: I know the headache experience well, take it easy and feel better |
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* csharp |
started yesterday out sick but needed a tooth fixed so got a crown done so Double Sick! |
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JBoyer |
If csharp ate something that gave him indigestion he could have had a Sick Hat Trick, which sounds like something Tony Hawk might do when he gets home and removes his cap. |
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kmlussier |
berick: Do you think bug 1676906 is related to bug 1670407? |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1676906 in Evergreen ""Lost Checkin Generates New Overdues" fails to reopen transaction" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1676906 |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1670407 in Evergreen "Return of paid lost items will not reopen a closed transaction" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1670407 |
| 11:12 |
csharp |
JBoyer++ |
| 11:14 |
berick |
kmlussier: yep, I bet it is. I'll mark mine as a duplicate. |
| 11:15 |
berick |
thanks kmlussier |
| 11:15 |
berick |
and 1670407 is a simpler bug to understand |
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* kmlussier |
lost track of time. |
| 13:00 |
kmlussier |
OK, the RM elections will begin in a couple of minutes. Apologies for a late start, but I was absorbed in other things. |
| 13:02 |
kmlussier |
#startmeeting 2017-03-28 Evergreen 3.0 Release Manager Election |
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pinesol_green |
Meeting started Tue Mar 28 13:02:45 2017 US/Eastern. The chair is kmlussier. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:02 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 13:02 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to '2017_03_28_evergreen_3_0_release_manager_election' |
| 13:02 |
kmlussier |
#topic Introductions |
| 13:02 |
kmlussier |
Please introduce yourselves with #info |
| 13:03 |
kmlussier |
#info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
| 13:03 |
phasefx |
#info Jason Etheridge, Equinox |
| 13:03 |
jeff |
#info jeff is Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) |
| 13:03 |
Dyrcona |
#info Jason Stephenson, C/W MARS |
| 13:03 |
berick |
#info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS |
| 13:03 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer is Jason Boyer from the IN State Library |
| 13:03 |
gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton, EOLI |
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dbwells |
#info dbwells is Dan Wells, Hekman Library (Calvin College) |
| 13:04 |
rhamby |
#info Rogan Hamby, EOLI |
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remingtron |
#info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) |
| 13:05 |
Bmagic |
#info Blake GH, MOBIUS |
| 13:05 |
csharp |
#info csharp is Chris Sharp, GPLS |
| 13:05 |
abneiman |
#info abneiman Andrea Buntz Neiman, EOLI |
| 13:05 |
kmlussier |
#topic Release Manager Election |
| 13:06 |
kmlussier |
#info Galen Charlton has been nominated for 3.0 Release Manager. |
| 13:06 |
kmlussier |
#link http://markmail.org/message/myn75cfyzg6gldll is his proposal |
| 13:06 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt: Do you have anything to add to the proposal? |
| 13:06 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: I do |
| 13:06 |
gmcharlt |
#info Proposed 3.0 schedule - http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/77 |
| 13:06 |
gmcharlt |
so, this follows the typical schedule, more or less, with the following changes |
| 13:07 |
gmcharlt |
- intentionally allowing a bit more time, and setting an early October release date accordingly |
| 13:07 |
gmcharlt |
- suggesting dates for the "Feedback Fests" |
| 13:07 |
kmlussier |
+1 to feedback fests! |
| 13:08 |
dbs |
#info Dan Scott, Laurentian University |
| 13:09 |
gmcharlt |
the primary release priority would be, of course, completion of the web staff interface and recommendation that it start being used in full production capacity |
| 13:09 |
gmcharlt |
with a concurrent deprecation of the XUL client |
| 13:10 |
gmcharlt |
questions regarding the proposal? |
| 13:11 |
kmlussier |
I have a question about the schedule for translators, which is the same question I raised at the most recent dev meeting. Will there be opportunity to give more time for translators to do their work beyond the .0 release and maybe generate the translations again before .1? |
| 13:12 |
gmcharlt |
I think we can do that, pending discussions on whether we can readily add more translation branches into LP |
| 13:13 |
kmlussier |
Also, are you planning to be buildmaster, or should we be putting out a call for somebody to take on that role? |
| 13:13 |
gmcharlt |
I intend to put out a separate call |
| 13:13 |
remingtron |
When would an alpha release be cut, if desired? Would that be on Sept 1 also? |
| 13:14 |
gmcharlt |
around then, yes — and to be honest, I currently view the alpha release primarily as a translation milestone |
| 13:15 |
bshum |
gmcharlt: When you're talking about "add more translation branches into LP", are you talking about series-based translation support? |
| 13:15 |
gmcharlt |
bshum: yes |
| 13:15 |
bshum |
Okay, just making sure I understood the target |
| 13:16 |
kmlussier |
Does anybody else have more questions for gmcharlt regarding release goals, timelines or anything else related to the release? |
| 13:17 |
Dyrcona |
These feedback fests: You're hoping to get help reviewing pull requests, right? I mean, you aren't planning to review every pull request yourself? |
| 13:17 |
terran |
#info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 13:17 |
gmcharlt |
heck no, re doing it by myself |
| 13:18 |
kmlussier |
Ha! |
| 13:18 |
gmcharlt |
the idea is to arrange a particular set of time where as many people as possible are reviewing pull requests |
| 13:18 |
gmcharlt |
with emphasis on (a) getting at least some feedback to all of them and (b) identifying the ones that perhaps need breaking up |
| 13:19 |
gmcharlt |
I envision my role during the process as much more nudging than direct patch reviewing |
| 13:19 |
Dyrcona |
OK. Sounds good. |
| 13:19 |
kmlussier |
And hopefully removing the pullrequest when the patch is determined to not be ready? |
| 13:19 |
gmcharlt |
yeah |
| 13:19 |
kmlussier |
OK, I'm going to leave another minute for questions, and if nobody speaks up, I'll start the vote. |
| 13:20 |
kmlussier |
#startvote Should gmcharlt be 3.0 Release Manager? yes, no, abstain |
| 13:20 |
pinesol_green |
Begin voting on: Should gmcharlt be 3.0 Release Manager? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. |
| 13:20 |
pinesol_green |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 13:21 |
bshum |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
csharp |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
JBoyer |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
terran |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
berick |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
phasefx |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
Dyrcona |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
abneiman |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
rhamby |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
kmlussier |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
dbs |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
jeff |
#vote yes |
| 13:21 |
remingtron |
#vote yes |
| 13:22 |
kmlussier |
#endvote |
| 13:22 |
pinesol_green |
Voted on "Should gmcharlt be 3.0 Release Manager?" Results are |
| 13:22 |
pinesol_green |
yes (13): kmlussier, JBoyer, abneiman, jeff, berick, remingtron, phasefx, Dyrcona, terran, csharp, bshum, dbs, rhamby |
| 13:22 |
kmlussier |
Congratulations gmcharlt! |
| 13:23 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
| 13:23 |
csharp |
gmcharlt++ |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
thank you all for your turst |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
er, trust |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
(good thing I did not promise a typo-free release) |
| 13:23 |
rhamby |
we welcome our new overlor... er, release manager |
| 13:23 |
csharp |
@karma turst |
| 13:23 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: turst has neutral karma. |
| 13:23 |
kmlussier |
Does anyone have any other questions or things to say before we wrap up? |
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jeff |
gmcharlt++ |
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| 13:23 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt: What? No typo-free release? Now you tell us! |
| 13:23 |
gmcharlt |
just to raise the question, which doesn't need to be answered immediately |
| 13:24 |
gmcharlt |
for 2.12 and 2.11... who will be/continue as RMaints? |
| 13:25 |
kmlussier |
I can be 2.12 release maintainer for herding cats, but maybe we need somebody else to fill in as buildmaster? |
| 13:25 |
kmlussier |
Since gmcharlt will be a little busy with 3.0 |
| 13:25 |
gmcharlt |
indeed |
| 13:26 |
gmcharlt |
I can make the call for buildmasters be inclusive of both 3.0 and the maintenance releases |
| 13:26 |
* kmlussier |
could probably learn to build a release, but it might take more time away from gmcharlt thank if he built the release himself. |
| 13:26 |
dbwells |
#vote yes (sorry, had to step away for a minute) |
| 13:27 |
miker |
#vote yes |
| 13:27 |
miker |
phone call distracted me, sorry! |
| 13:27 |
kmlussier |
#action gmcharlt to put out call for buildmasters for both 3.0 and maintenance releases |
| 13:28 |
kmlussier |
Anything else? |
| 13:28 |
gmcharlt |
miker: you'll continue as 2.11 rmaint? |
| 13:29 |
miker |
gmcharlt: aye |
| 13:29 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier++ |
| 13:29 |
gmcharlt |
miker++ |
| 13:29 |
mmorgan |
gmcharlt++ kmlussier++ miker++ |
| 13:29 |
kmlussier |
#endmeeting |
| 13:29 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Tue Mar 28 13:29:49 2017 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 13:29 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-03-28-13.02.html |
| 13:29 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-03-28-13.02.txt |
| 13:29 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2017/evergreen.2017-03-28-13.02.log.html |
| 13:29 |
kmlussier |
Thanks everyone! |
| 13:29 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier++ # again |
| 13:30 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
| 13:30 |
kmlussier |
We are very-much looking forward to 3.0! |
| 13:30 |
dbs |
I move that the name of release 3.0 be "Turst" |
| 13:31 |
bshum |
"Toasty Turst" ? |
| 13:31 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
| 13:32 |
Dyrcona |
Thirsty Toast? |
| 13:32 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt++ |
| 13:32 |
bshum |
I hope the new Debian comes out soon |
| 13:32 |
dbs |
"Turst Us" |
| 13:32 |
phasefx |
In Code We Turst |
| 13:33 |
Dyrcona |
phasefx++ |
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* bshum |
is glad we'll dodge 18.04 for now |
| 13:33 |
* gmcharlt |
blushes... upon Googling, I suggest we never mention that typo again |
| 13:33 |
kmlussier |
I didn't think this was meeting worthy, but now that 2.12 is out the door, I wanted to bring up bug 1642086. It seems like a feature that probably should go in during the earlier part of a release cycle. |
| 13:33 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1642086 in Evergreen "jQuery support for the public catalog" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1642086 |
| 13:33 |
Dyrcona |
Uh oh. Now I gotta.... |
| 13:33 |
kmlussier |
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt to turst discussions. And now I feel the need to Google this. |
| 13:33 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: I agree, and also something for the roadmap |
| 13:34 |
Bmagic |
kmlussier++ |
| 13:34 |
Dyrcona |
Um, yeah. Let's not talk about it. |
| 13:34 |
kmlussier |
It took me so long to post the code, that I decided to not push it for 2.12. |
| 13:34 |
gmcharlt |
and speaking of the roadmap, it's now open - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap:3.0 |
| 13:34 |
gmcharlt |
I'll be sending out a formal call for roadmap entries shortly |
| 13:34 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
| 13:34 |
* kmlussier |
has a list for the roadmap. |
| 13:35 |
* gmcharlt |
is entirely unsurprised to hear that ;) |
| 13:35 |
kmlussier |
While we'll all here, is it okay if I start an agenda for next week's hackfest? |
| 13:36 |
bshum |
kmlussier: +1 |
| 13:36 |
* bshum |
did a double take at "next week" too |
| 13:36 |
bshum |
It is coming up too fast... |
| 13:36 |
kmlussier |
I had a large list for that too, but now I can't remember what was on it. |
| 13:36 |
Dyrcona |
Agenda? Hackfest? Oh, right. :) |
| 13:37 |
Dyrcona |
I had an idea or two, but have forgotten. |
| 13:38 |
* dbs |
withdraws his suggestion without reservation |
| 13:47 |
kmlussier |
https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:hackfest:eg2017 |
| 13:48 |
kmlussier |
Surprise, surprise. kmlussier wants to talk about QA. |
| 13:48 |
* dbs |
actually feels reasonably prepared a week in advance, for once |
| 13:49 |
dbs |
I'm sure that will change as the real event draws nearer |
| 13:49 |
kmlussier |
Thanks to rhamby, I feel pretty well prepared too. I couldn't say the same thing yesterday afternoon. |
| 13:50 |
dbs |
I spent a weekend largely ignoring my family, that helped (but also costs...) |
| 13:50 |
Dyrcona |
I'll wing it, as I usually do. :) |
| 13:51 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: ditto :) |
| 13:51 |
kmlussier |
I already did my presentation for the C/W MARS and NOBLE folks. That one will just take a bit of adaptation. |
| 13:51 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: I say we do rock, paper, scissors when we get there to decide who drives? :D |
| 13:52 |
Dyrcona |
If we're using VirtualBox, you drive. |
| 13:52 |
Dyrcona |
I'll just heckle and say how libvirt is superior. :) |
| 13:54 |
dbs |
#vote libvirt |
| 13:55 |
bshum |
Plenty of choices |
| 13:59 |
jeff |
w |
| 13:59 |
jeff |
er, hello. |
| 13:59 |
bshum |
As long as it's not VMWare |
| 14:04 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
| 14:19 |
gmcharlt |
bshum++ |
| 14:31 |
rhamby |
kmlussier: 29 minutes and counting |
| 14:32 |
kmlussier |
I'm working on it! |
| 14:32 |
kmlussier |
The cat is demanding my attention, so I'm trying to take care of both at the same time. |
| 14:32 |
kmlussier |
Proofreading is one of the few things I can do with a cat in my lap. |
| 14:46 |
kmlussier |
rhamby: I'm done |
| 14:46 |
kmlussier |
With 14 minutes to spare. |
| 14:46 |
rhamby |
OK, I'm doing one more pass and putting a fork in it |
| 14:46 |
gmcharlt |
and any remaining typos... you can now blame on the cat! |
| 14:48 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt: I think there may have been a suggestion to fill up white space by adding a box highlighting why cats are better than dogs. I'm not quite sure how that suggestion got there. |
| 14:48 |
rhamby |
I was thinking we should adopt a ferret as our mascot .... |
| 14:56 |
kmlussier |
For some reason, ferret isn't what I envision when I think of open-source library software. Maybe a cute puppy or a majestic bird in flight. |
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bshum |
Lucky cricket. |
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frank_guel |
Hi all, I have a question, I am ussing the 2.12.0EGv in a test server, I am getting the following console error in chrome when I go to the loggin page, "Uncaught Error: Could not load class 'openils.widget.AutoSuggest'. Did you spell the name correctly and use a full path, like 'dijit.form.Button'?" |
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frank_guel |
I guess it is not an 2.12.0 error because I am ussing the 2.8.4 version in a production system and it happends too |
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kmlussier |
I don't see it, but I don't have Autosuggest enabled. |
| 15:13 |
kmlussier |
But I just tried another catalog that does use Autosuggest. Yup. I can confirm that the uncaught error does appear in the console. |
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kmlussier |
And autosuggest does not work on the login page. |
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frank_guel |
ah ok, |
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bshum |
Fwiw, the same error occurs on Firefox too. Autosuggest / dojo unhappiness. |
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bshum |
Since we discontinued autosuggest by default with Evergreen 2.6 new installations, I don't think there's been any further movement on it. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jane Sandberg] Docs: Web client no longer has borders around patron name - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c85e457> |
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pinesol_green |
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kenstir |
Hey hi ho. I have a question about services available to the android app through OSRF. |
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kenstir |
I know I can read user messages by calling open-ils.actor.message.retrieve. Is there any way to mark messages read or delete them via OSRF? |
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hawahaniz_ |
hi everyone |
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hawahaniz_ |
i need help to install opensrf |
