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09:05 * tsbere looks at emails, suspects that things are a tad off with them
09:06 tsbere "We are having issues" at 17:39. "They are fixed" at 17:40. The latter saying they were fixed at 17:26.
09:08 csharp hmm - seeing lots of slowness on gitweb on the git server
09:09 csharp others seeing the same?
09:09 * tsbere pops it open and sees pretty speedy initial response
09:09 tsbere down to actual commit diffs and things are responding just fine
09:09 csharp ok, maybe just me
09:10 csharp after Friday's attacks, I'm paranoid now when I see any lag
09:21 csharp @blame whoever's downloading the large file in our office
09:21 pinesol_green csharp: whoever's downloading the large file in our office must eat cottage cheese!
09:26 Stompro I would download a large file to get some cottage cheese, that seems like an incentive.
09:26 * csharp packs lots of cottage cheese for the hackaway
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10:12 bshum I had cottage cheese last night on my baked potato :)
10:14 Dyrcona I thought you hate cottage cheese.
10:15 bshum No, I like it just fine.
10:15 bshum I hate blue cheese though
10:15 bshum There's some really weird cheeses in the world.
10:16 Dyrcona "You can't govern a country with over 200 kinds of cheese."
10:16 Dyrcona Or something like that.
10:16 * Dyrcona had to fix his heat this morning.
10:17 Dyrcona It was kind of like fixing a computer.... Take the radiator apart, put it back together and it works!
10:24 Dyrcona I should really make a local repository for our 2 SIPServer modifications rather than doing the changes in individual git repos on the SIP servers....
10:25 Dyrcona Oh well. One day....
10:26 pastebot "dans-datalogics" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "JSON Parser Error" (12 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/29
10:26 dans-datalogics dbs: in regards to your post last night
10:27 dans-datalogics that's in response to sending this -- http://dl-ils2.dlogics.com/osrf-gateway-v1​?service=open-ils.auth&method=open-ils​.auth.authenticate.init&param=dltest
10:28 JBoyer dans-datalogics, try passing it "dltest" instead of plain dltest. I seem to remember that having some effect on the JSON-ness of single bare parameters.
10:28 dans-datalogics and just like that, it works. thanks!
10:28 dans-datalogics that's not a change since 2.10, is it?
10:28 Dyrcona JBoyer++
10:29 JBoyer I don't believe so, I ran into it a long time ago but haven't done much with direct calls in ages.
10:30 JBoyer And of course, for more complicated calls you'll have to go the whole way with "{param: 'value', p2: 'whatevs'}" and so on. I don't remember if quotes are required in that case or not.
10:30 dans-datalogics again, i swear we had that working before, but maybe i'm mistaken.
10:31 dans-datalogics yeah, we're just proofing out the most basic functionality right now.
10:36 JBoyer dans-datalogics, it depends on the call you're making. If something takes an auth token, that does need to be bare and the first param.
10:37 csharp we just hit bug 1635737 (or something like it)
10:37 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1635737 in Evergreen "Daylight savings incorrect due dates" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635737 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick)
10:37 * berick hopes to push a fix for that today
10:37 csharp exacerbated in our case by closed dates
10:37 csharp berick++
10:37 Dyrcona I've not had any reports of that bug, yet.
10:39 Dyrcona Reports question: I want to cancel/delete some recurring reports for a user. I assume I'll delete the reporter.schedule entries.
10:39 Dyrcona Would it be better to delete the reporter.report entries or just set recur to false for the reports?
10:42 JBoyer Dyrcona, depends on if you just want it gone or if you want them to be able to get their last run.
10:42 JBoyer (and if you automate cleanup, etc.)
10:43 Dyrcona JBoyer: Thanks. I'm leaning toward leaving the reports but dropping recurrence.
10:44 JBoyer ++
10:54 csharp Dyrcona: and in the "teach an end user to fish" area, they should be able to cancel the recurring report themselves (My Folders -> Output -> (output folder) -> Pending Items)
10:55 Dyrcona csharp: Thanks! I'll pass that along. I think this is a case of someone who doesn't work there anymore, though.
10:56 csharp ah - gotcha
10:56 Dyrcona Is it possible for a superuser or similar to see others reports and do that on their behalf?
10:56 csharp Dyrcona: I wrote a script that changes ownership to a new user: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/pines.g​it;a=blob;f=reports/change_reports_owner.pl;h=7​58d80701b4ce637bd0b533dbe9d90951fe9aa7b;hb=HEAD
10:57 csharp several years old and not very subtle, but it worked last time I used it :-)
10:57 csharp Dyrcona: not that I know of
10:58 csharp brings bug 1528627 to mind, though
10:58 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1528627 in Evergreen "Feature Request: Evergreen "su/sudo" functionality" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1528627
10:59 Dyrcona Well, the emails I have are not entirely clear on whether the person is gone or not.
10:59 csharp heh - we've seen that too
11:00 Dyrcona The summary is: "These are the recurring reports going to email address. Does anyone else need to get them?" "No. Please cancel/delete them."
11:01 Dyrcona csharp++ # Thanks for sharing.
11:03 csharp now that I understand CStoreEditor, I would probably re-write that script using OpenSRF libs
11:04 * csharp steps over rabbit hole and tries to re-focus on what he was doing :-)
11:04 Dyrcona yeah, that's sometimes a tricky choice.
11:04 Dyrcona Not always clear cut whether to do things in the database or via backend calls.
11:05 csharp well, at the time I authored that, the DB was all I really knew
11:05 csharp in fact, that was an early attempt to use perl instead of bash for everything
11:07 Dyrcona Yeah. I often write my db stuff to use Perl if it does anything more complicated than a couple of SQL statemetns.
11:07 Dyrcona I pretty much always manipulate MARC with MARC::Record rather than trying xml junk in the db.
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12:07 berick gmcharlt: FYI got the nginx/websocket/ssl proxy working:  https://gist.github.com/berick/5​4a9724c7c8d369661cac12bc2a1a0c9
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12:30 dbs berick: ooh. is this to avoid apache2 SSL overhead?
12:33 jeff dbs: primary/original goal is "run https and websockets on 443/tcp", but there are additional benefits also. nginx or pound in front of apache tends to make many things happier.
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12:44 dbs jeff: absolutely. I get excited thinking about all of the caching nginx can do
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12:45 jeff be careful what you wish for. :-)
12:45 jeff but yes, especially with regard to images, a caching layer has great potential.
12:46 jeff s/a caching layer/a caching layer in front of apache/
12:46 dbs yes, images and a few other assets
12:46 berick dbs: I had not considered that, actually, was only concerned w/ avoiding new firewall holes
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12:46 berick dbs: avoiding SSL within apache entirely is a neat idea, though
12:47 berick now that you said it, that seems like an obvious win
12:47 * dbs uses nginx as the SSL proxy/caching layer for pretty much every other service we run here
12:48 jeff in our usage of pound and nginx, we've typically NOT eliminated the SSL layer between the proxy and backend.
12:49 jeff it's possible to do, but i think at least a few things will need tweaking. i'm also not convinced that there's much of a performance win, but would be happy to be shown data either way. :-)
12:49 jeff there's a complexity trade-off, and it might be a wash.
12:49 jeff (trading one complexity for another)
12:50 jeff also, for SNI users there are (still!) rough edges.
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12:53 jeff possibly even what i would call sharp edges.
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15:07 JBoyer I remember talk some time ago about a feature to automatically renew circs if there were renewals remaining and no holds. Launchpad is turning up nothing as expected, did that ever go anywhere?
15:08 Dyrcona JBoyer: Don't think so. I played with a script to do it for my own and my family's circulations once.
15:09 kmlussier JBoyer: It may have only been discussed in IRC.
15:09 JBoyer That's what it's looking like. We just had that request up here recently and I was lead astray by something called auto renew that took effect when checking an item out to a patron that already has it out.
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15:10 JBoyer I was about to dig around the IRC logs, for some reason csharp is coming to mind, maybe the same request came up down there?
15:11 kmlussier JBoyer: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2016-08-01#i_258901
15:11 Dyrcona I remember discussing in a couple of times in IRC.
15:11 kmlussier We just had a lot of discussion on that idea on the MassLNC Ideas site.
15:12 JBoyer kmlussier++
15:13 dbs I've discussed it on IRC a few times
15:14 JBoyer Sounds like it needs to be wishlisted so it can be discussed. I'll finally put it in.
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16:28 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1282751 Credit card payment balance owed rounding fix - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4efe500>
16:28 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] LP#1624491 Avoid uninit var prox_cache during holds processing - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=82b16fc>
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