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09:09 Dyrcona eeevil: Yesterday, when I said I'd looked at the migration-tools, but not used them I lied. I've used eg_staged_bib_overlay to load records at C/W MARS. :)
09:10 kmlussier g'morning
09:10 Dyrcona Good morning!
09:13 Dyrcona That reminds me that the next extract for Backstage is coming up....
09:13 Dyrcona This hasn't been automated here, yet.
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10:19 Bmagic Billing history defaults to 12 months. Is there a place to change that setting? Or is that hard coded?
10:20 eeevil Dyrcona: :)
10:20 Dyrcona It was over two months ago, so I forgot. :)
10:32 kmlussier Bmagic: In the client or the OPAC?
10:33 Bmagic XUL client
10:33 Bmagic patron -> billing -> history
10:33 kmlussier Bmagic: I'm not aware of a setting for the client.
10:33 Bmagic that's what I thought, but I wanted to make sure
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10:40 dbs Does action_trigger.event_output get generated based on the timezone of the database server or the opensrf server? We have reminder notices for items with due dates like '2016-11-14 23:59:59-05' showing a due date of '2016-11-15'
10:41 dbs Tried setting TZ='America/Toronto' before the call to action_trigger_runner.pl but that didn't make a difference
10:42 * dbs looks at that offset... shouldn't that be -04 for America/Toronto? Hmm
10:44 dbs well, we also have 2016-10-21 23:59:59-04 generating a due date of 2016-10-22 so differing offsets aside it's still not what we want :/
10:44 dbs Suppose I could make the templates just ignore the timezone but that feels wrong :/
10:50 dbs From date.format(helpers.format_date(circ.due_date), '%Y-%m-%d') to ... maybe something in helpers.format_date
10:52 tsbere dbs: date.format supports time, format, and locale. date.format(time = blah, format = '%Y-%m-%d', locale = 'blah')?
10:52 dbs tsbere++ # thanks, I was just looking at that
10:53 tsbere dbs: You can also, at the "USE date" line, set the locale
10:53 dbs locale != timezone though, perhaps
10:54 dbs looks like it's for local variations like 23h00 vs. 11:00 PM
10:54 tsbere dbs: To be honest, most of that was from memory and a single note in a text file on my desktop as to the date.format syntax.
10:55 dbs tsberes_memory++
10:58 dbs oh man, I guess it's beyond just the notices. https://laurentian.concat.ca/eg/opac/record/105 is for an item with a due date of 2016-10-21 23:59:59-04
10:58 dbs time to set the whole OpenSRF server to America/Toronto I guess
11:00 dbs doesn't seem to be any org unit settings for time zones (which must make it hard for consortiums that span more than one time zone)
11:06 Dyrcona So, I'm getting a complaint that the PO Name is not appearing in line items since the upgrade.
11:06 Dyrcona I haven't been told if this is causing a real problem or not.
11:07 Dyrcona I was also told this happened after the last upgrade and Equinox applied a patch.
11:07 Dyrcona I'm not finding any signs of a patch, though.
11:08 Dyrcona Anyone else using EDI and heard of something similar?
11:11 kmlussier Dyrcona: I don't know anything about a patch, but I do know something special is required to get the PO Name to show up in lineitems.
11:11 kmlussier The steps are explained in 4. of the Preparing for order record loading at http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.11/_ordering.html. Maybe it will point you in the right direction?
11:12 berick i remember bug #1519465, but that's only for parsing responses
11:12 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1519465 in Evergreen 2.9 "Purchase Orders with spaces in the name cause problems with EDI processing" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519465
11:15 Dyrcona kmlussier: Thanks, but the closest thing there is getting the PO name out of the marc that comes back.
11:15 Dyrcona The installation instructions are not helpful.
11:15 Dyrcona Not for this question.
11:15 Dyrcona I may just open a ticket with Equinox to ask what they did last time.
11:17 Dyrcona berick: Yeah, that was the first thing that I checked. The PO name has no spaces.
11:25 Dyrcona I think whoever reported this is operating under a misapprehension.
11:27 berick they misunderestimated its capabilities
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11:30 Dyrcona Maybe. The screen shots I was sent though do show the PO name in +LI entries....
11:30 Dyrcona I think I'll check those POs' messages.
11:31 Dyrcona The lack of PO name does not appear to be causing a problem, though. The orders processed fine so far.
11:46 Dyrcona So, yeah, some messages show the PO Name in the EDI ORDERS messages where the ID would be. Some don't.
11:46 Dyrcona Differentiating factor seems to be pre and post upgrades for both.
11:47 Dyrcona So, some patch that I'm not previously aware of.
11:48 Dyrcona I opened a support request with ESI about this mysterious patch, but I'm inclined to do nothing if everything is working as expected.
11:48 Dyrcona I suppose there may be some workflow that this enables that I'm not aware of.
11:56 berick Dyrcona: it's a  JEDI template variable.  INC_PO_NAME.  by default, it's only applied to Ingram.  maybe your template was reset to stock?
11:56 Dyrcona berick: Ah, thanks.
11:57 * Dyrcona checks the upgrade script.
11:57 kmlussier Dyrcona: I think the importance of the PO name is so that staff can correctly match it up with the 'real' PO number used at the library, It may not cause technical issue, but makes it more difficult for staff to match it up with a PO.
11:58 kmlussier But I could be misunderstanding. I'm pulling all of this from discussions that happened years ago.
11:59 berick hopefully we can make some progress on bug #1373690 soon.. then it would be a database config flag instead of a template variable.
11:59 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1373690 in Evergreen "Direct EDI generation for ACQ orders -- AKA kill ruby webrick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373690 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick)
11:59 berick reminds me.. I should rebase that before the hackaway
11:59 kmlussier berick: That's still out there? For some reason, I thought we had merged that one. :)
11:59 * berick dons his rebasin' britches
11:59 berick no, alas, it's a pretty big change.  needs lots of eyes and testing.
12:01 Dyrcona berick: This template? /openils/var/templates/acq/po/edi_messages.tt2
12:02 berick Dyrcona: action/trigger template ID 23
12:02 berick event_def, i mean
12:02 Dyrcona berick: Thanks. I thought it was in the database, but we didn't touch that during the upgrade.
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12:04 berick Dyrcona: the other part is the ruby bits.  IIRC, PO name is one of the features in my openils-mapper github branch that's not in the mbklein repo
12:05 berick yeah, confirmed
12:05 Dyrcona berick: OK. I've found multiple installations of the ruby stuff, including one I did during the upgrade.
12:05 Dyrcona I switched to an older one.
12:06 Dyrcona I did think that the branch for the ruby stuff may be it.
12:06 Dyrcona But, I couldn't remember the branch.
12:06 Dyrcona I should have just left the ruby alone. :)
12:08 * Dyrcona searches for orders made since the webrick shutdown and start.
12:08 * Dyrcona will be more than happy to test the above branch during the hackaway, once we work out how to test it.
12:11 Dyrcona So, an Ingram order from 10:17 am shows the invoice id.
12:12 Dyrcona An Ingram order from 11:41 hasn't been processed, yet.
12:15 * Dyrcona starts to wonder if switching out the webrick didn't break it more.
12:16 berick Dyrcona: aha, there's a test plan in the bug
12:17 Dyrcona berick: OK.
12:19 berick hm, looks like I need to copy the upgrade sql to the schema.  i'll do that too..
12:36 csharp berick: I'm very interested in continuing testing/work on bug 1373690 at the hackaway
12:36 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1373690 in Evergreen "Direct EDI generation for ACQ orders -- AKA kill ruby webrick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373690 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick)
12:37 csharp (if not before)
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13:20 berick csharp: great.
13:38 Dyrcona berick++ Thanks for the help with EDI/ruby.
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13:59 graced 60 second warning to EOB meeting
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14:01 graced #startmeeting Evergreen Oversight Board Meeting, October 20, 2016
14:01 pinesol_green Meeting started Thu Oct 20 14:01:19 2016 US/Eastern.  The chair is graced. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:01 pinesol_green Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:01 pinesol_green The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_oversight_board_​meeting__october_20__2016'
14:01 graced #link Agenda https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=governance:minutes:2016-10-20
14:01 graced #topic Introductions
14:01 graced Oversight Board members, please introduce yourself with #info
14:01 graced #info graced is Grace Dunbar, Equinox
14:01 miker #info miker is Mike Rylander, Equinox
14:02 sherbertbc #info sherbertbc is Sharon Herbert, Sitka/BC Libraries Co-op
14:02 collum #info collum is Garry Collum, Kenton County Public Library
14:02 tspindler #info tspindler is Tim Spindler, C/W MARS
14:02 rgagnon #info rgagnon is Ron Gagnon, NOBLE
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14:03 graced terran and rfrasur are y'all around?
14:03 terran #info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES
14:04 graced I know rfrasur is at a seminar or something so she may not be able to join
14:04 graced Amy is in Spain and can’t join us… I’m sure we all feel very sorry for her.
14:04 graced But we do have a quorum so let's get started.
14:04 graced #topic Approve Minutes/Actions from last meeting
14:04 graced The minutes have been up for review since our last meeting.
14:05 graced #link http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2016/evergreen.2016-09-22-14.01.html
14:05 graced Are there any corrections?
14:05 graced Hearing no requests for corrections...
14:05 graced #agreed The EOB accepted the minutes from the September 22 meeting
14:06 graced #topic Old Business and Action items
14:06 graced #info sherbertbc is continuing to investigate OSS grants. Her research can be found here
14:06 graced #link http://tinyurl.com/jpjb2no
14:06 graced sherbertbc: Anything to add?  Or does anyone have questions for her?
14:06 sherbertbc to clarify, Kathy shared with me the spreadsheet that she and Rogan(?) had work on some time ago
14:06 sherbertbc I went back and reviewed the status of the grants they investigated earlier and some are not currently available or they require that the project is significant or key to internet business. We don’t really seem to fit with most of the typical OSS grants out there.
14:07 terran Thank you for doing this Sharon! sherbertbc++
14:07 sherbertbc IMLS and Mellon grants seemed most promising, but we have no access to these grants in Canada, so I have no experience with them. So, wondering if others here do, if anything there worth pursuing, are they excessively bureaucratic, etc.?
14:07 graced sherbertbc++
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14:08 sherbertbc So, shall I dig deeper on IMLS and Mellon then?
14:09 graced sherbertbc I would say dig deeper on those but it will require  lot of output from us
14:09 tspindler I think one thing ot think about is what Grace said about the 10% for the SFC.  I don't know if that would draw red flags?
14:09 terran I haven't had to go through the grant process myself, but I suspect IMLS would be the best bet.
14:09 graced In terms of writing the grants as well as reporting on how the money was used
14:09 sherbertbc yes, time involved is a concern, we'd need to id a project and ROI would need to be worth it
14:10 sherbertbc happy to dig in a bit more on IMLS, see where we might best fit, get a sense of time involved and grant amount to make it worth our while
14:11 kmlussier Is there a specific project the EOB is thinking of targeting with these funds?
14:11 rgagnon Knowing the goal is part of the grant research for a good fit.
14:11 graced kmlussier: Not yet - I think we're just looking to see what we are eligible for and what the opportunities are at this point.
14:12 sherbertbc graced +1
14:12 graced To me, grant s are great opportunities to fund infrastructure or prototyping projects though...
14:13 graced if we're looking at development.
14:13 sherbertbc agreed
14:13 graced But then there's also UX consulting, and other things
14:13 graced I'm sure kmlussier has a list.  :)
14:13 kmlussier I do think there are probably several Evergreen sites in the community that would be willing to submit the grant on behalf of the community if the SFC is not a good option.
14:13 kmlussier Well, of course I have a list. :)
14:14 graced Okay, so sherbertbc will dig a little deeper and we'll talk more about it next month or on the lists?
14:14 kmlussier The reason I asked, though, is because MassLNC is also exploring grants for a specific need, and there may be an opportunity to work together on this. But I don't know if our needs align with what the EOB is hoping to do.
14:15 graced kmlussier: good to know - we'll let you know when we get there
14:16 graced #action sherbertbc to dig deeper on IMLS and Mellon to get more details on structure and opportunity
14:16 terran I'm in agreement with kmlussier - it may be more feasible for MassLNC (or another community partner) to apply directly with a letter of support from the EOB.
14:16 sherbertbc ok, thx graced
14:17 graced That raises a question - who is going to administer the project at that point? Would we expect MassLNC (or whomever) to do it or would the EOB do the work?
14:17 sherbertbc joint effort?
14:18 sherbertbc a bit cart before horse at this point though
14:18 miker I imagine there would have to be an official leader, and they'd have to be the grantee... but, sherbertbc's research will tell, I bet
14:18 tspindler I would assume MassLNC would have to.  Could the board apply without involving the SFC?
14:19 graced So long as the Board isn't receiving the grant money we could maybe assist in the grant request/writing.
14:19 miker tspindler: we'd be using their 501c(3) status, IIUC, so, probably not completely without them
14:19 graced And we could manage the project to some expent.
14:19 graced *extent
14:19 kmlussier I could follow up with sherbertbc directly before the next meeting to see if it's worth doing.
14:19 sherbertbc kmlussier: +`1
14:20 graced miker: if MassLNC as the 501c(3) was backing it we don't need to involve the SFC
14:20 graced But yes, cart before the horse as sherbertbc says
14:20 miker graced: sure. I interpreted tspindler's question to mean the EOB directly receiving ... sorry if I misunderstood
14:20 graced Good to bring up the issues we need to be thinking about though
14:21 tspindler miker: yes your understanding of my question was correct
14:21 graced any other questions on this one or are we good move on?
14:22 graced #info miker was to update the EOB Rules of Governance in the git repo.
14:22 graced miker?
14:22 miker the git repo is updated
14:22 miker one note
14:23 miker I included the executive session language as an appendix as it's large and separate from the main body in purpose
14:23 miker if the EOB would like me to rework that somehow, I'm happy to do so
14:23 miker also included the CoI policy as an appendix, and terran's housekeeping updates
14:24 terran miker++
14:24 miker I haven't updated the governance page on the site proper yet
14:24 graced miker: you read my mind
14:25 miker but, I don't have the edit privs required, currently
14:25 graced #action miker to update html format of ROG git changes on governance page
14:25 miker so, I'll beg assistance from the web team for that
14:25 graced #action gmcharlt to give miker perms to edit governance page
14:26 graced miker++
14:26 graced questions?
14:26 miker http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​contrib/governance.git;a=summary
14:26 miker for reference
14:26 graced #link http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​contrib/governance.git;a=summary
14:27 graced ^ for meetbot purposes
14:27 miker thanks
14:27 graced okay, moving on
14:27 graced #info afterl was to follow up with SFC (again) on ledger discrepancy.
14:27 graced #info I know that Amy did this.  And we have some follow up news in the financial update...
14:28 graced But suffice to say the big NC check is still not credited to the ledger
14:28 graced more on that later though
14:28 graced speaking of the ledger...
14:28 graced #info graced was to follow up with gmcharlt to get more ledger detail.
14:28 graced #info I have not completed this task but I expect to have an update by the next meeting.
14:29 graced #info miker to add conflict of interest policy as an appendix in the git repo
14:29 graced oh you just said you completed that, too
14:30 miker aye :)
14:30 graced #info miker completed the task for great justice
14:30 graced :)
14:31 graced #info miker also reported that the next agenda item for housekeeping changes was completed.
14:32 graced #info graced and rfrasur to work on a timeline for the EOB meetings at the Hackaway
14:32 graced #info Still working on it! We should have something out by early next week.
14:32 graced The agenda placeholders are on the wiki
14:33 graced #info graced was to call for an email vote for travel stipends for our meeting at the Hack-a-way.
14:33 graced #link http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-​oversight-board/2016-September/001576.html
14:33 graced #info This was completed on September 29 when the Board approved via email (with 8 “yes” votes) a motion to, “Set aside $1,500 of funds from the general Evergreen budget for the purpose of approved travel stipends for the EOB meetings during the Hack-a-way (not to exceed $500 per person) to be distributed on a first come first served basis.”
14:33 graced Questions or comments on that action item?
14:34 terran Is Amy the only person who ended up needing the stipend?
14:34 graced At this point she is the only one who has requested a stipend, yes
14:35 graced though we didn't put a date limit on the request period...
14:36 graced #info  terran to request revision on the GPLS page to point to the evergreen-ils page for Evergreen trademark
14:36 graced terran?
14:36 terran Redirection is completed.
14:36 graced terran++
14:37 graced Whew. That was a lot of action items.
14:37 graced Is there is any further old business?
14:37 graced Okay, moving on.
14:37 graced #topic New Business
14:37 graced #info Financial Update
14:37 graced #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?i​d=governance:financials:update_2016_10_19
14:38 graced #info No changes to the bottom line since the last update, but the ledger now reflects the recording of two sponsorship checks that were received last February. However, the ledger still does not yet reflect a check from the State of North Carolina for conference registrations.
14:38 graced #action graced and afterl to follow up with the SFC on the NC check issue
14:38 terran When Amy followed up with the SFC, did they offer an explanation for that?
14:39 graced terran: no.  It was pretty much the same discussion as we had when the EOB was on the phone with the SFC
14:40 graced But we will bring it to their attention again. and we'll let you know what happens.
14:40 graced any other thoughts or questions on the financials?
14:41 graced #topic Committee Reports
14:41 graced #topic Conference Committee
14:42 graced The conference committees are pulling a lot of things together right now.
14:42 graced Are there any questions for the Conference Committee?
14:42 tspindler I can't remember but will any program information out before registrations begin?
14:43 graced That's the plan.  Certianly pre-conference info will be out.
14:43 tspindler That's good
14:43 graced But I expect the call for program proposals to begin in a few weeks.
14:44 graced moving on then
14:44 graced #topic  Outreach Committee Business
14:44 graced #info kmlussier put her update in the agenda.Minutes from our last Outreach Committee meeting are available at
14:44 graced #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=outreach:meetings:2016-09-26
14:44 graced #info Highlights from the meeting are that rhamby is exploring the possibility of using a new merchandising vendor.
14:44 graced #link  https://www.spreadshirt.com/-C3528
14:44 graced #info We are also turning our attention back to creating a conference kit that Evergreen community members can use at conferences where they are speaking about / promoting Evergreen.
14:44 graced #info  The press release for 2.11 was sent to Marshall Breeding, Library Journal, ALA Direct and the ASIS&T Bulletin.
14:45 graced kmlussier: anything to add?  Or does anyone have questions?
14:45 kmlussier Nothing to add
14:45 tspindler I think I saw a tweet from Marshall Breeding on the release, I think its the first time I've seen him do that for Evergreen
14:46 terran The conference kit is an interesting idea
14:46 kmlussier tspindler: No, actually, he's usually pretty good about sending out those tweets as soon as he gets our press releases.
14:46 graced kmlussier++
14:47 graced as always, the outreach committee is doing great work
14:47 kmlussier terran: Once we're a little further along with the conference kit, we can share it more widely for broader feedback. I think it could be useful.
14:47 * kmlussier wishes she had it earlier this week.
14:48 graced if no further questions or comments...
14:48 graced moving on
14:48 graced #topic Release Manager's Report
14:48 graced miker?
14:49 miker we'll be doing one soon... there are a few updates
14:49 miker one, in particular, I'll be bringing to the community:
14:49 miker we have a signoff on the timezone branch that addresses (among many other things) some web client issues
14:50 miker but, that will require an upgrade of opensrf
14:50 miker which we usually don't require
14:50 miker so ... I'll be soliciting input on that point, and depending on the feedback, that may or may not go in
14:50 miker nothing big past that
14:51 graced thanks for the heads up on that
14:51 graced any questions or comments?
14:51 graced moving on
14:52 graced other new business
14:52 graced I have one bit of new business
14:52 graced #topic EOB Hack-a-way meetings
14:52 graced #action rfrasur will be putting out a call for general and committee specific agenda items next week
14:52 graced #action graced created agenda placeholders on the wiki and will flesh out times and topics over the next week
14:53 graced So please, please send all your requests for topics for the EOB as a whole or for a committee to me or Ruth asap
14:54 graced any other new business?
14:54 graced or questions on the above topic?
14:54 graced questions about why it's still so hot when it's supposed to be autumn?
14:55 tspindler because
14:55 terran I tried wearing a sweater the other day, just to try to convince myself that Halloween is almost here. No success.
14:56 kmlussier @weather
14:56 pinesol_green kmlussier: Seekonk, MA :: Mostly Cloudy :: 71F/22C | Thursday: A mix of clouds and sun. Slight chance of a rain shower. High near 70F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Overcast with rain showers at times. Thunder possible. Low 58F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
14:56 graced @weather
14:56 pinesol_green graced: Error: I did not find a preset location for you. Set via setweather <location>
14:56 sherbertbc want some wet coast rain, anyone? anyone?
14:56 graced dang it!
14:56 kmlussier I was thinking it wasn't that hot, but I guess it is above normal.
14:56 kmlussier sherbertbc: No!
14:56 sherbertbc haha
14:56 graced sherbertbc: we'll take it!
14:56 tspindler @weather 01605
14:56 pinesol_green tspindler: Worcester, MA :: Overcast :: 61F/16C | Thursday: Cloudy skies. Slight chance of a rain shower. High 63F. Winds E at 10 to 15 mph. Thursday Night: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Thunder possible. Low 54F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%. | Updated: 2m ago
14:57 terran sherbertbc: I would like your rain, please. I'm going to have an enormous water bill from trying to keep my shrubs alive this month.
14:57 tspindler quite a temperature difference from seekonk
14:57 sherbertbc I'll push some your way terran
14:57 graced Well enjoy your rain and your cooler than Atlanta temps.
14:57 terran @weather 30083
14:57 pinesol_green terran: Stone Mountain, GA :: Scattered Clouds :: 86F/30C | Heat Index: 85F/29C | Thursday: Sun and clouds mixed. Near record high temperatures. High 87F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy this evening, then becoming cloudy after midnight. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 61F. W winds at less than 5 mph, increasing to 10 to 20 mph. | (1 more message)
14:57 graced Thank you to everyone for being here.
14:57 graced Have a great week!
14:58 tspindler graced+
14:58 sherbertbc graced +1
14:58 terran Ciao
14:58 graced #endmeeting
14:58 pinesol_green Meeting ended Thu Oct 20 14:58:11 2016 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:58 pinesol_green Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2016/evergreen.2016-10-20-14.01.html
14:58 pinesol_green Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2016/evergreen.2016-10-20-14.01.txt
14:58 pinesol_green Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2016/evergreen.2016-10-20-14.01.log.html
14:58 collum graced++
14:58 rgagnon graced +1
14:58 graced See many of you in person soooooon
14:59 miker graced++
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14:59 kmlussier graced++
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15:27 csharp @weather 30033
15:27 pinesol_green csharp: Decatur, GA :: Scattered Clouds :: 86F/30C | Heat Index: 85F/29C | Thursday: Sunshine and clouds mixed. Near record high temperatures. High near 85F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to cloudy skies late. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 61F. W winds at less than 5 mph, increasing to 10 to 20 mph.
15:28 * csharp lives in a cool valley where it's 5 to 10 degrees cooler than it is elsewhere
15:30 berick @weather 27712
15:30 pinesol_green berick: Durham, NC :: Clear :: 83F/28C | Heat Index: 84F/29C | Thursday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 60s. Thursday Night: A few clouds. Low 61F. Winds light and variable. | Updated: 34m ago
15:30 berick @quote random
15:30 pinesol_green berick: Quote #41: "<phasefx> when you guys stab me later, make sure it's with a double-dagger" (added by gmcharlt at 05:23 PM, January 07, 2013)
15:35 Dyrcona @weather 01844
15:35 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Methuen, MA :: Mostly Cloudy :: 61F/16C | Thursday: Light rain. Lows overnight in the mid 50s. Thursday Night: Cloudy with occasional light rain . Low near 55F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%.
15:35 Dyrcona It was 85 F yesterday.
15:35 gsams @weather 76262
15:35 gsams @weather 76262
15:36 pinesol_green gsams: Roanoke, TX :: Clear :: 75F/24C | Thursday: Sunny and windy. High 76F. Winds N at 20 to 30 mph. Thursday Night: A clear sky. Low near 50F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph. | Updated: 42m ago
15:39 rhamby @weather 30046
15:39 pinesol_green rhamby: Lawrenceville, GA :: Overcast :: 86F/30C | Heat Index: 84F/29C | Thursday: A mix of clouds and sun. Near record high temperatures. High 86F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to cloudy skies late. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 62F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph. | Updated: 4m ago
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18:01 jwoodard @librarian
18:01 pinesol_green jwoodard: Management:12, Cataloging:8, Acquisitions:15, Reference:10, Circulation:15, Systems:16, Research:18, Custodial:11
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