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rhamby |
@coffee |
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* pinesol_green` |
brews and pours a cup of Kenya AA, and sends it sliding down the bar to rhamby |
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Dyrcona |
Nice useragent string: <?php eval(base64_decode('b2Jfc3RhcnQoKTsKJGhvb.... Goes on for about 2K. |
| 09:16 |
Dyrcona |
Got another that's about 4K and looks like Java. |
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Dyrcona |
Nice: Attacks targeting web analysis tools. |
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Dyrcona |
This is <sarcasm>reassuring</sarcasm>: "It actually sounds harder than it is in reality." |
| 09:23 |
Dyrcona |
And, giving it 30 seconds of thought, I have to agree. |
| 09:23 |
krvmga |
Dyrcona: i find it really interesting to look at attacks. |
| 09:24 |
krvmga |
i'm quite proud of the fact no server i've ever managed has been compromised. |
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Dyrcona |
The "Java" one is probably targeting a specific analysis tool. |
| 09:24 |
Dyrcona |
I have decoded the base64 from the php, but I bet it is just JavaScript insertion. |
| 09:24 |
krvmga |
it's like when you see attacks targeting wordpress hitting my drupal site |
| 09:24 |
Dyrcona |
s/have/haven't/ |
| 09:25 |
krvmga |
very specific wordpress stuff |
| 09:25 |
Dyrcona |
krvmga: Yeah, that sort of thing. |
| 09:25 |
* Dyrcona |
is starting to think we should just give up on this web thing. :) |
| 09:26 |
* krvmga |
likes fighting the bad guys. :) |
| 09:29 |
* Dyrcona |
drops another index and reloads a couple of log files into a database. |
| 09:29 |
Dyrcona |
Later, I'm going to have to figure out how to index text fields larger than 1/3 page size. |
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Dyrcona |
Never trust input. |
| 09:37 |
Dyrcona |
The one that looks like Java may be JavaScript, but has some syntax that looks more like C++. |
| 09:38 |
Dyrcona |
I don't think JFactory::getConf(); is valid Java. |
| 09:38 |
Dyrcona |
Could be valid JavaScript, I think. |
| 09:38 |
jeff |
I would expect it to be a bit of PHP, possibly emitting HTML and Javascript. |
| 09:39 |
jeff |
but I don't have the whole blob, nor time to analyze this morning. :-) |
| 09:39 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: No php tags on this one. I think it is just broken. |
| 09:39 |
jeff |
oh, I thought you were still talking about the php one you mentioned above. |
| 09:40 |
Dyrcona |
Nope. I mentioned two. There are probably more. |
| 09:40 |
Dyrcona |
The database load died on the first problem in the file(s). |
| 09:41 |
Dyrcona |
Error message is something like this: |
| 09:41 |
Dyrcona |
DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: index row size 4136 exceeds maximum 2712 for index "vhost_useragent_idx" |
| 09:41 |
Dyrcona |
HINT: Values larger than 1/3 of a buffer page cannot be indexed. |
| 09:42 |
Dyrcona |
Anyway, only tangentially related to Evergreen, 'cause I'm loading public OPAC logs into a database to run queries on them. |
| 09:43 |
jeff |
What is your objective in indexing the (potentially) large columns, and do you care if you don't have "good" indexing for the too-large values? |
| 09:45 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: I want to be able to search the request and useragent fields, more likely the request than useragent. |
| 09:45 |
Dyrcona |
I think indexing the first 100 or so characters will be enough, though. |
| 09:46 |
dbs |
Dyrcona: you could do what we do in metabib.full_rec, which is a view over metabib.real_full_rec |
| 09:46 |
Dyrcona |
I want to look for gateway, xml-rpc, etc. in the request string. |
| 09:47 |
Dyrcona |
dbs: That's a thought. I don't want to spend too much time on this, though. |
| 09:47 |
dbs |
Just build the index over a substring of the long field, instead of the complete field |
| 09:48 |
dbs |
Like "metabib_full_rec_value_tpo_index" btree ("substring"(value, 1, 1024) text_pattern_ops) |
| 09:48 |
dbs |
props to miker++ |
| 09:48 |
jeff |
dbs got there first. |
| 09:48 |
jeff |
my phone rang. :-) |
| 09:49 |
Dyrcona |
dbs: Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards now without a view. |
| 09:50 |
Dyrcona |
When the last 8 or so million lines finish loading, I'll try something like that on request. |
| 09:52 |
Dyrcona |
On a side note, I find it interesting that Google pretty much only returns results for the 9.1 PG docs when I do searches like postgresql index large text fields |
| 09:53 |
jeff |
google's top result for various postgres things varies in what it prefers, in terms of postgres version. that's one of the reasons i really appreciate the link in the docs to that doc page in various other versions. |
| 09:53 |
Dyrcona |
yep, I use those links all the time. |
| 09:54 |
Dyrcona |
So, yeah, I'll go with almost exactly what dbs shared. |
| 09:54 |
Dyrcona |
dbs++ |
| 09:55 |
Dyrcona |
I think 1024 is more than enough. |
| 09:57 |
Dyrcona |
And, good thing I only run webalizer on the common log format version of the logs... no user agent in those. :) |
| 09:58 |
Dyrcona |
Though, I don't think mod_php is installed on the server where I do the webalizer. |
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jeff |
var url = $location.absUrl().replace(/\/staff.*/, '/opac/advanced'); |
| 10:11 |
jeff |
changes https://webby.evergreencatalog.com/eg/staff/cat/catalog/index to https://webby.evergreencatalog.com/eg/opac/advanced |
| 10:11 |
jeff |
but changes https://staff.example.com/eg/staff/cat/catalog/index to https://opac/advanced :-) |
| 10:12 |
Dyrcona |
Not good. |
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Dyrcona |
I'm not even sure you'd want to break out of staff on the first one, either. |
| 10:12 |
jeff |
also https://flagstafflibrary.example.com/eg/staff/cat/catalog/index to https://flagopac/advanced if i'm not mistaken. :-) |
| 10:12 |
miker |
should look for \/eg\/staff methinks |
| 10:13 |
miker |
jeff++ # /me awaits patch ;) |
| 10:13 |
jeff |
miker: i suspect the intent was to avoid hardcoding /eg since (in theory, at least) you could move that, but i'm not sure if that theory holds up in practice these days. |
| 10:13 |
* Dyrcona |
doesn't have all the context. |
| 10:13 |
jeff |
Dyrcona: regex is used in webstaff to determine the TPAC URL for an iframe in "catalog" interfaces. |
| 10:14 |
miker |
jeff: yep, in practice, theory does not hold |
| 10:14 |
jeff |
Dyrcona: i had one host where it broke, and that's why. |
| 10:14 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: I assumed, but I don't know exactly where that occurs or why. |
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miker |
(also, I see no good reason to avoid making that canonical, and just say that's where evergreen lives) |
| 10:15 |
Dyrcona |
Oh. all right then. |
| 10:15 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah. If some one "moves" they should know enough to change the code, too. ;) |
| 10:16 |
Dyrcona |
bah. something missing there, but you get it. |
| 10:16 |
miker |
or just add the appropriate setting value to the regex |
| 10:33 |
jeff |
I think the simplest for now is change /\/staff.*/ to /!\/\/staff.*/ |
| 10:33 |
mmorgan |
jeff: We like your password reset form that can take a username or barcode in the same box. Can you share how you accomplished that? |
| 10:33 |
jeff |
now i'm wondering how to write a test for this. |
| 10:35 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: karma? |
| 10:35 |
* Dyrcona |
needs to look into tests for web staff client, too. |
| 10:37 |
Dyrcona |
@karma |
| 10:37 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (39), "kmlussier" (37), "jeff" (31), "Dyrcona" (31), and "yboston" (26). Lowest karma: "source" (-1), "drupal" (-1), "marc" (-1), "reports" (-1), and "Vandelay." (-1). You (Dyrcona) are ranked 3 out of 87. |
| 10:38 |
Dyrcona |
source++ |
| 10:39 |
kmlussier |
ie-- |
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Bmagic |
ie-- |
| 10:41 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
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yboston |
ie-- |
| 10:42 |
Dyrcona |
(1+ (1+ lisp)) ;) |
| 10:42 |
Dyrcona |
And, yeah, you can (eval) that line. :) |
| 10:46 |
jeff |
mmorgan: thanks! the web app that the patron's interact with calls to an API that has logic to treat anything matching our barcode regex as a barcode, and all others as usernames. it's not perfect, but it helps avoid some confusion for most users. |
| 10:47 |
jeff |
mmorgan: i've been meaning to just teach evergreen how to do that (perhaps with some added logic to try both, but one before the other) |
| 10:48 |
jeff |
(though that second part might not help if the user can't even log in in some corner cases) |
| 10:50 |
mmorgan |
Interesting. We thought you might have already taught evergreen ;-) |
| 10:51 |
jeff |
I thought I had also, so I went looking there first. :-) |
| 10:51 |
mmorgan |
The login screen can take either one. |
| 10:51 |
mmorgan |
:) |
| 10:54 |
mmorgan |
jeff: Thanks for the info, we'll poke around some more. |
| 10:54 |
mmorgan |
jeff++ |
| 11:08 |
jeff |
also, i was mistaken on one of my examples earlier -- "flagstafflibrary.example.com" would be okay. :-) |
| 11:09 |
jeff |
but eg1.example.org would break the marc match editor url. |
| 11:09 |
jeff |
that seems to be it. writing up the bug, branch. |
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phasefx |
kmlussier: another good humble book bundle: electronics |
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kmlussier |
phasefx: Thanks! :) |
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Dyrcona |
Whee! Indexing over 200 million rows.... |
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Dyrcona |
After 34.8 minutes, the index is created. |
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Dyrcona |
If I had known, I would have designed this machine to run postgresql. |
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Dyrcona |
I'm only using it because it was available and had the disk space. |
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graced |
ten minute warning for the EOB meeting |
| 13:53 |
rfrasur |
forewarned is forearmed |
| 13:53 |
rfrasur |
but not four armed. That'd be weird. |
| 13:56 |
terran |
How about four-eyed? I can do that. |
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rfrasur |
Oooh, forewarned and four-eyed. I can do that, too. |
| 14:00 |
graced |
Looks like it's about that time |
| 14:00 |
kmlussier |
Are we coming up with ideas for the new Evergreen mascot? |
| 14:01 |
JBoyer |
Sounds like rfrasur is thinking about General Grievous? |
| 14:01 |
rfrasur |
I've got no ideas about anything. Just tell me what buttons to push. |
| 14:01 |
graced |
#startmeeting Evergreen Oversight Board Meeting, June 16, 2016 |
| 14:01 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting started Thu Jun 16 14:01:32 2016 US/Eastern. The chair is graced. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:01 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:01 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_oversight_board_meeting__june_16__2016' |
| 14:01 |
graced |
#link Agenda http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2016-6-16 |
| 14:02 |
graced |
#link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:using-meetbot |
| 14:02 |
graced |
Meetbot cheatsheet ^^ |
| 14:02 |
graced |
#topic Introductions |
| 14:02 |
graced |
Oversight Board members, please introduce yourself with #info |
| 14:02 |
miker |
#info miker is Mike Rylander, ESI |
| 14:02 |
graced |
#info graced is Grace Dunbar, Equinox |
| 14:02 |
sherbertbc |
#info sherbertbc is Sharon Herbert, Sitka/BC Libraries Coop |
| 14:02 |
rfrasur |
#info rfrasur is Ruth Frasur, Hagerstown Library, Evergreen Indiana |
| 14:02 |
afterl |
#info afterl is Amy Terlaga, Bibliomation |
| 14:03 |
rgagnon |
#info rgagnon is Ron Gagnon, NOBLE |
| 14:03 |
terran |
#info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 14:03 |
collum |
#info gcollum is Garry Collum, Kenton County Public Library |
| 14:03 |
graced |
We have a quorum. |
| 14:03 |
graced |
Anhone know if tspindler is joining us? |
| 14:04 |
graced |
*Anyone |
| 14:04 |
graced |
I'll take that as a no. :) |
| 14:04 |
graced |
#topic Approve Minutes/Actions from last meeting |
| 14:04 |
graced |
The minutes have been up for review since our last meeting. |
| 14:04 |
graced |
#link http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-05-19-14.01.html |
| 14:04 |
graced |
Are there any corrections? |
| 14:05 |
rfrasur |
Looks good |
| 14:05 |
terran |
Looks good to me |
| 14:05 |
graced |
Hearing no requests for corrections... |
| 14:05 |
graced |
#agreed The EOB accepted the minutes from 5/19/2016 |
| 14:05 |
graced |
Okay, old business and action items |
| 14:06 |
graced |
#topic Old Business and Action items |
| 14:06 |
rfrasur |
Grace, I received an email from Sharon with reference to the agenda |
| 14:06 |
graced |
rfrasur: yes, shall we toss her request into new business? |
| 14:06 |
graced |
I think we'll have time for discussion... |
| 14:06 |
rfrasur |
She sent it to the list. I'm not sure how to link that though. Yes. |
| 14:07 |
graced |
Okay, hopefully we'll get to that. |
| 14:07 |
rfrasur |
How should I word it for the agenda? |
| 14:08 |
sherbertbc |
just call it Mozilla Secure open source fund discussion? |
| 14:08 |
graced |
+1 |
| 14:08 |
sherbertbc |
if no time, it could be a list discussion |
| 14:08 |
rfrasur |
This sound okay? Review Mozilla Secure Open Source Fund project and Evergreen project compatibility |
| 14:09 |
sherbertbc |
+1 |
| 14:09 |
rfrasur |
Done. If you're looking at the agenda, you'll want to refresh. |
| 14:09 |
graced |
And here's the link rfrasur: http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-oversight-board/2016-June/001476.html |
| 14:09 |
rfrasur |
Thank you. |
| 14:09 |
graced |
:) |
| 14:09 |
graced |
Okay - back to old business |
| 14:10 |
graced |
#info graced was tasked with setting up permanent Conference Mailing Lists. |
| 14:10 |
graced |
#info I have completed this task. |
| 14:10 |
graced |
The committee is just starting to use this for communication - feedback is appreciated by those on the list |
| 14:11 |
graced |
#info graced to follow up on any outstanding payables/receivables from the 2016 conference |
| 14:11 |
graced |
#info Tanya proactively followed up with me and the SFC. It looks like all outstanding items are resolved. |
| 14:11 |
graced |
I think we can call the 2016 Evergreen Conference officially complete. |
| 14:11 |
rfrasur |
I have a question but am not sure if it should wait for the financial report |
| 14:12 |
graced |
I think it should... I have a feeling I know what you're going to ask |
| 14:12 |
rfrasur |
Okay, I'll wait :-) |
| 14:12 |
graced |
LEt's put the old business to rest. :0 |
| 14:12 |
graced |
#info gmcharlt to run a June Financial Update prior to the EOB meeting. |
| 14:12 |
graced |
#info Since the newly run financials are on the wiki, I know this was done and it leads us neatly into new business… |
| 14:12 |
graced |
Unless there is any further old business that I missed? |
| 14:13 |
rfrasur |
We're going a little out of order. |
| 14:13 |
graced |
Oops. My bad. I revised MY working agenda to include old/new business specifically. |
| 14:13 |
miker |
there are two "financial update" items, confusingly... |
| 14:13 |
graced |
:( |
| 14:14 |
graced |
Yeah, I meant to put more detail there - the one under actions was just the action item for Galen to run the report |
| 14:14 |
miker |
one is "do" and the next is "discuss"? |
| 14:14 |
graced |
Pretty much. |
| 14:14 |
miker |
gotcha, thanks! |
| 14:14 |
graced |
Sorry guys. |
| 14:14 |
rfrasur |
miker, I believe that's the case |
| 14:15 |
rfrasur |
I'll update that to clarify if that's alright. |
| 14:15 |
graced |
rfrasur, please and thank you |
| 14:16 |
rfrasur |
Done |
| 14:16 |
graced |
Okay thanks - let's get to the New Business and Financial Update now that Ruth has me back on the straight and narrow |
| 14:16 |
graced |
#topic New Business |
| 14:16 |
graced |
#info Financial Update |
| 14:17 |
graced |
#link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:financials:update_2016_06_15 |
| 14:17 |
graced |
#info The Project is $29,114.80 in the black. |
| 14:17 |
graced |
#info The Ledger is showing that the 2016 Conference lost $509.86. |
| 14:17 |
graced |
gmcharlt++ for handling the financial reporting |
| 14:17 |
terran |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:17 |
sherbertbc |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:17 |
collum |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:18 |
rfrasur |
So, I'll ask my question here. I know that it was previously mentioned that the conference was comfortably in the black. |
| 14:18 |
graced |
questions about our financial status? |
| 14:18 |
rfrasur |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:18 |
rgagnon |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:18 |
rfrasur |
Why isn't it? |
| 14:18 |
graced |
rfrasur: Tanya reported that the conference was in the black per her spreadsheet and not the actual ledger. |
| 14:19 |
rfrasur |
And has there been a reconciling between the ledger and her spreadsheet? |
| 14:19 |
terran |
Do you know where the discrepancies were? |
| 14:19 |
miker |
what rfrasur asked :) |
| 14:20 |
graced |
I do not at this point as I was waiting for the final "OK" from the SFC and the most recent financials. |
| 14:20 |
graced |
Happy to go in and sort it out now though... but it goes without saying that the project ledger is the official record. |
| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
It is. And the concern is that it appears that money came in that didn't make it to the project. I'm not saying that's happened. |
| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
But with that discrepancy, whatever the dollar amount is, without some explanation, that's what it amounts to. |
| 14:21 |
terran |
It will be useful for the local hosts next year to know if there were overlooked expenses as well. Do we have a copy of the spreadsheet Tanya was working on? |
| 14:21 |
graced |
It's necessary for the conference team to keep their own budget spreadsheet but in the last few weeks before the conference it can get hard to keep up accurately - especially if there are multiple people updating it. |
| 14:22 |
graced |
I have access to the spreadsheet from the conference. |
| 14:23 |
rfrasur |
Well, with the correct permissions, I'd like that investigation to be done. |
| 14:23 |
graced |
I am happy to reconcile that spreadsheet against the project ledger (with gmcharlt's help) and find where it got off track. |
| 14:23 |
rfrasur |
Do we need to vote on that? |
| 14:23 |
graced |
shall I action item myself? |
| 14:23 |
graced |
I see no need for a vote |
| 14:23 |
graced |
it's just follow up, yeah? |
| 14:23 |
rfrasur |
then, yes, an action item, please. |
| 14:24 |
rfrasur |
From my perspective, but I have a perspective of one. |
| 14:24 |
miker |
+1 |
| 14:24 |
rfrasur |
+1 |
| 14:24 |
collum |
+1 |
| 14:24 |
terran |
Agreed. I would like to request a copy of the spreadsheet as well, just for my own curiosity as we go into planning for next year. |
| 14:24 |
rgagnon |
+1 |
| 14:24 |
afterl |
+1 |
| 14:24 |
graced |
Happy to do so - I will likely need the eyes of the standing conference committee so I'll ask for their in put after my first pass. |
| 14:25 |
graced |
#action graced to reconcile local committee budget with SFC ledger for the 2016 conference |
| 14:25 |
sherbertbc |
how does end $ compare to past conferences? |
| 14:25 |
collum |
good question |
| 14:26 |
graced |
sherbertbc: I don't think we've ever had a conference lose money before. |
| 14:27 |
miker |
gmcharlt: would it be simple to pull conference profit/loss from the ledger since SFC involvement? |
| 14:27 |
miker |
if you're around... |
| 14:27 |
graced |
But, as losses go, it's not statistically significant. However, the goal of the conference should be to make money for the project |
| 14:27 |
kmlussier |
For the 2014 conference, I could track down what the final profit was, if it helps. I know it wasn't much. |
| 14:27 |
graced |
miker: to what end are you asking gmcharlt about P/L - OOC...? |
| 14:27 |
sherbertbc |
yes, agreed it's not a big loss, but good to understand why if we can for next time |
| 14:28 |
rfrasur |
Right. I'm not so concerned about the profit/loss. More so, I'm concerned with the discrepancy. |
| 14:28 |
miker |
just to answer sherbertbc's question |
| 14:28 |
graced |
sherbertbc: absolutely |
| 14:28 |
graced |
Everything we encounter is a learning opportunity. |
| 14:29 |
sherbertbc |
:) |
| 14:29 |
graced |
Any other questions for today on this? |
| 14:30 |
terran |
graced: were the budget attachments you sent to the Evergreen-conference mailing list the planning spreadsheets that the committees were working from? |
| 14:30 |
graced |
terran: yes |
| 14:31 |
* graced |
forgot she did that |
| 14:31 |
terran |
graced: thank you |
| 14:31 |
graced |
One of the other things the conference committe shoud discuss soon is "standardizing" those budgeting spreadsheets... |
| 14:31 |
terran |
the first thing I notice is that attendance was down this year over the previous 2 years |
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| 14:31 |
graced |
That's not true. |
| 14:32 |
graced |
I know Hood River had the lowest of the last 3 years |
| 14:32 |
graced |
And I think Cambridge was lower than Raleigh. |
| 14:32 |
graced |
kmlussier: do you remember your attendance #s? |
| 14:32 |
terran |
No? Then perhaps the 2015 spreadsheet had estimated numbers instead of actual numbers, and the 2016 one had actual numbers? |
| 14:33 |
rfrasur |
terran, if you look at the 2016 raleigh final budget there's a tab for conference number comparisons |
| 14:33 |
terran |
Never mind, multiple tabs |
| 14:33 |
kmlussier |
142 full. 29 one-day. 15 complimentary |
| 14:33 |
graced |
terran: I'm not sure, exactly as I'm not looking at those right now. |
| 14:34 |
graced |
Terran: Ah, okay. :) |
| 14:34 |
terran |
The 2015 spreadsheet on the 'actual' tab indicates a net loss of $3564.92 |
| 14:34 |
graced |
I don't think that came to fruition though. |
| 14:35 |
graced |
I believe that the venue gave us some breaks at the end of the conference. |
| 14:35 |
terran |
It would be helpful to see the actual conference ledgers for all 3 past years to compare to these. |
| 14:35 |
kmlussier |
IIRC, the hotel ended up waiving some costs last year that put the conference into the black. |
| 14:36 |
graced |
I'm sure we can get that detail on the conferences. |
| 14:36 |
rfrasur |
kmlussier, it had to do with the food/beverage minimum |
| 14:37 |
graced |
#action gmcharlt to assist in running comparision reports for EG conferences past |
| 14:37 |
gmcharlt |
(and yes, past conference financials from the POV of Conservancy's ledger can be readily fetched) |
| 14:37 |
terran |
That would be great, seeing the discrepancies over all three years will help spot areas that may be problematic in the future. |
| 14:37 |
graced |
good, because I just volunteered you to do it! |
| 14:38 |
graced |
okay, any other financial related questions? |
| 14:38 |
graced |
Moving on then |
| 14:38 |
graced |
#topic Committee Reports |
| 14:39 |
graced |
#topic Conference Committee |
| 14:39 |
graced |
#info The SFC provided an update this week that they are still negotiating the contract with the venue for 2017 - we expect a contract next week |
| 14:39 |
graced |
#info The local committee is organizing and reviewing old budgets - budget finalization and approval will likely come before the EOB at next month’s meeting. |
| 14:39 |
graced |
Any questions for the Conference Committee? |
| 14:40 |
graced |
moving on then |
| 14:40 |
graced |
#topic Outreach Committee Business |
| 14:40 |
graced |
kmlussier? |
| 14:40 |
kmlussier |
I'm here now |
| 14:40 |
kmlussier |
#info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, Outreach Committee Chair |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
#info The Outreach Committee met on May 23 |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
#link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=outreach:meetings:2016-05-23 |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
#info We are focusing on getting ready for the Evergreen meetup at ALA, scheduled for June 25 |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
#link https://www.eventscribe.com/2016/ala-annual/fsPopup.asp?Mode=presInfo&PresentationID=143885 |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
If you're attending ALA, I hope you'll join us. |
| 14:41 |
terran |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
We'll have free pens! |
| 14:41 |
afterl |
Yay! |
| 14:41 |
kmlussier |
Any questions? |
| 14:42 |
graced |
kmlussier: any movement on the mechandising front? |
| 14:42 |
graced |
I need more Evergreen swag :) |
| 14:42 |
kmlussier |
oh, yes! We have a new mug on sale. I almost forgot. |
| 14:43 |
graced |
link? |
| 14:43 |
kmlussier |
#link https://www.zazzle.com/yaous_coffee_mug-168484225156283420 |
| 14:43 |
graced |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:43 |
kmlussier |
Sorry, it took me a minute to dig it up |
| 14:43 |
* terran |
always needs more mugs and pens! |
| 14:43 |
rfrasur |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:43 |
graced |
Thanks kmlussier! |
| 14:44 |
graced |
moving on then |
| 14:44 |
graced |
#topic Release Manager's Report |
| 14:44 |
graced |
#info 2.9 & 2.10 RM updates sent to the EG list via email |
| 14:44 |
graced |
#link http://markmail.org/message/vbs5n4hsg5zyh2gc |
| 14:44 |
graced |
miker: anything to report yet for 2.11? |
| 14:44 |
miker |
well, every time I compile a set of bugs to attack, someones attacking them! |
| 14:45 |
miker |
so, still working on that, but my pain is the project's gain |
| 14:45 |
graced |
the terrible problems you have! |
| 14:45 |
* kmlussier |
would love to see more of those problems. |
| 14:45 |
rfrasur |
sounds like a lovely problem. |
| 14:45 |
graced |
bugfixers++ |
| 14:45 |
miker |
bugfixers++ # indeed |
| 14:45 |
terran |
releasemanagers++ |
| 14:46 |
rfrasur |
releasemanagers++ |
| 14:46 |
miker |
schedule was released, matches last summer's very closely |
| 14:46 |
graced |
questions for our RMs? |
| 14:47 |
rfrasur |
How'd you get so cool? |
| 14:47 |
* miker |
suppresses snappy answer |
| 14:47 |
collum |
Just more evidence of coolness |
| 14:47 |
rfrasur |
Exactly |
| 14:47 |
graced |
miker rarely has a snappy answer, don'tlet him fool you |
| 14:47 |
graced |
;) |
| 14:48 |
graced |
Thanks miker! |
| 14:48 |
gmcharlt |
something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77mJHgXSHYo |
| 14:48 |
graced |
enough from the peanut gallery! |
| 14:48 |
rfrasur |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:49 |
graced |
#topic Rules of Governance Review Committee |
| 14:49 |
graced |
Which I will informally call the “Roger” Committee for short. ;-) |
| 14:49 |
graced |
Do any committee members wish to give an update? |
| 14:49 |
rgagnon |
No progress thus far |
| 14:49 |
rfrasur |
We haven't had an opportunity to proceed with this, but will. From this committee member, this is a TERRIBLE time, but it'll get better soon. |
| 14:49 |
graced |
or are they all watching the youtube video? |
| 14:50 |
miker |
those are some pretty sweet glasses... |
| 14:50 |
terran |
I have not had time, either. |
| 14:50 |
rfrasur |
graced, if no one objects, I'll send out a Doodle poll by the end of next week for us to plan a work session or something. |
| 14:50 |
graced |
I suggest just starting with electing a chair and then maybe starting a Google doc to highlight areas of the RoG that you think need work? |
| 14:51 |
graced |
rfrasur++ |
| 14:51 |
terran |
rfrasur++ |
| 14:51 |
rfrasur |
Can you add an action item for that for me to refer back to? |
| 14:51 |
rfrasur |
(they are sweet glasses) |
| 14:51 |
collum |
rfrasur++ herdingcats++ |
| 14:51 |
graced |
#action rfrasur to send our a Doodle poll by 6/24 to plan a Roger Committee work session |
| 14:52 |
rfrasur |
Hah |
| 14:52 |
rfrasur |
perfect |
| 14:52 |
rfrasur |
ty |
| 14:53 |
graced |
Okay, were there any questions about tabling the executive session wording discussion until next meeting? |
| 14:53 |
terran |
none here |
| 14:53 |
miker |
not from me, and I'm for it |
| 14:53 |
rgagnon |
fine with me |
| 14:53 |
afterl |
me too |
| 14:54 |
collum |
sounds good |
| 14:54 |
rfrasur |
nope. sounds lovely |
| 14:54 |
sherbertbc |
+1 |
| 14:54 |
graced |
#action graced to follow up on email list to finalize executive session wording prior to next EOB meeting |
| 14:54 |
graced |
Okay, we have 6 minutes for Mozilla |
| 14:54 |
sherbertbc |
Details here: http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-oversight-board/2016-June/001476.html Wondered if this is of interest? Worth pursuing? |
| 14:55 |
graced |
#info sherbertbc brought up Mozilla's OSS support program for discussion |
| 14:55 |
graced |
#link http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-oversight-board/2016-June/001476.html |
| 14:55 |
sherbertbc |
thanks graced |
| 14:56 |
graced |
:) sorry for the noise - just trying to keep the minutes easy for rfrasur |
| 14:56 |
sherbertbc |
+1 |
| 14:56 |
terran |
My initial reaction is that Evergreen probably isn't the type of thing they are looking for, but that there'd be no harm in trying. |
| 14:56 |
miker |
my understanding of the program is that it's about infrastructure software |
| 14:57 |
JBoyer |
I think that came about when all of the huge OpenSSL bugs hit, because there was no money behind that project, and it's fairly vital to the continued operation of the net (from an OSS POV, at least.) |
| 14:57 |
rfrasur |
Would that refer to something like OpenSRF? or something diff? |
| 14:58 |
rfrasur |
oh |
| 14:58 |
terran |
JBoyer: That makes sense |
| 14:59 |
sherbertbc |
one the criteria seems to confirm ''How vital is the software to the continued functioning of the Internet or the Web? |
| 14:59 |
graced |
Mozilla does have a lot of other grants available though |
| 14:59 |
graced |
#link https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/grants/ |
| 15:00 |
sherbertbc |
graced++ |
| 15:00 |
sherbertbc |
I'm happy to review those and see if there''s anything more relevant to EG |
| 15:00 |
terran |
sherbertbc++ |
| 15:01 |
graced |
sherbert++ |
| 15:01 |
afterl |
sherberetbc++ |
| 15:01 |
rgagnon |
sherbertbc++ |
| 15:01 |
graced |
sherbertbc++ |
| 15:01 |
collum |
sherbertbc++ |
| 15:01 |
rfrasur |
sherbertbc++ |
| 15:01 |
miker |
sherbertbc++ |
| 15:01 |
sherbertbc |
I feel an action item coming! |
| 15:01 |
sherbertbc |
thanks all |
| 15:01 |
graced |
#action sherbertbc to investigate OSS grants for Evergreen |
| 15:02 |
graced |
thanks sherbertbc! |
| 15:02 |
graced |
Okay, any other new business? |
| 15:02 |
terran |
@quote add <sherbertbc> I feel an action item coming! |
| 15:02 |
pinesol_green |
terran: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 15:03 |
graced |
going once for new business |
| 15:03 |
graced |
going twice... |
| 15:03 |
terran |
Not really new business, but FYI - I'll be on annual leave the second half of July, but I believe I will be able to log in remotely for the meeting. |
| 15:04 |
graced |
Thanks for the heads up terran! |
| 15:04 |
graced |
Thanks everyone! |
| 15:04 |
graced |
#endmeeting |
| 15:04 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Thu Jun 16 15:04:22 2016 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:04 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-06-16-14.01.html |
| 15:04 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-06-16-14.01.txt |
| 15:04 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2016/evergreen.2016-06-16-14.01.log.html |
| 15:04 |
sherbertbc |
thanks graced ! |
| 15:04 |
collum |
graced++ |
| 15:04 |
rfrasur |
graced++ |
| 15:04 |
graced |
y'all++ thanks for the productive meeting! |
| 15:04 |
terran |
Cheers! |
| 15:04 |
miker |
graced++ |
| 15:04 |
rgagnon |
graced++ |
| 15:05 |
afterl |
graced++ |
| 15:05 |
afterl |
bye! |
| 15:05 |
graced |
afterl: thanks for hanging in there! |
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| 17:06 |
jeffdavis |
Dyrcona: when you moved your Z39.50 service, what sort of prefork settings did you use in Apache config on the server that "zurl" points at? |
| 17:07 |
Dyrcona |
Defaults, I think. |
| 17:07 |
* Dyrcona |
is responding to a list email and trying to get home. |
| 17:07 |
jeffdavis |
I'll give that a try then, thanks :) |
| 17:11 |
Dyrcona |
jeffdavis: I'm not sure it is defaults after all, but maybe it is. |
| 17:12 |
pastebot |
"Dyrcona" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "mpm_prefork.conf on zurl target machine" (7 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/16 |
| 17:12 |
Dyrcona |
That's probably Ubuntu defaults, not Apache defaults. |
| 17:12 |
Dyrcona |
Anyway, signing off. |
| 17:13 |
jeffdavis |
Dyrcona++ |
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kmlussier |
@sortinghat |
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pinesol_green |
Hmm... kmlussier... Let me see now... HUFFLEPUFF! |
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