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09:07 jeff Hrm. Mac build of the 2.10.0 client was throwing an error when trying to search the catalog, but... is no longer throwing said error.
09:08 jeff If memory is at all accurate (which is often is not) it was a dialog indicating "not found" on the oils://remote/something-or-other.xul
09:09 jeff I thought that there was an issue with the client build, but being unable to reproduce I'm not sure what caused it. Client cache comes to mind.
09:11 Dyrcona Could be.
09:13 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen. Best wishes to everyone who went through an upgrade over the weekend!
09:14 jeff kmlussier: thank you!
09:15 * jeff has fresh coffee and new bugs to file :-)
09:17 jeff Dyrcona: pingest came in quite handy over the weekend for performing the record-attr re-ingest as part of our upgrade from 2.7.4 to 2.10.3.
09:18 Dyrcona jeff: Yeah, I find it handy, too. berick has mentioned moving it into the support scripts or something like that.
09:19 Dyrcona I think we'd have to merge our latest changes, 'cause he's added/changed options that I haven't merged, yet.
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09:19 Dyrcona Hmm. Maybe I'll look at that while I wait on Thunderbird and Exchange to get their collective act together.
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09:20 Dyrcona For some reason, Thunderbird has decided to download all of the messages in some of my IMAP folders again.
09:22 jeff "glitch in the mbox. happens when they change something."
09:23 JBoyer How much alike, was it the same spam message?
09:26 Dyrcona Actually, it was all list mail folders.
09:26 Dyrcona Mostly Open-ILS lists, but also one of our internal lists.
09:26 Dyrcona Yeah, I think it is something Microsoft changed that cause message ids or other metadata to change on some messages.
09:27 JBoyer email message ids are fairly fragile, aren't they? Not exactly the kind of things an RFC that old would take into account.
09:28 Dyrcona I s'pose, but I imagine Thunderbird expects them not to change after the messages are stored.
09:28 Dyrcona And here I'm talking about IMAP IDs.
09:29 Dyrcona Anyway, I'm not sure what it was, just speculatin'.
09:33 Dyrcona Another fun email thing: The health insurance sends me three copies of every email: 1 for me, 1 for my wife, 1 for my daughter.
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10:01 Dyrcona Naturally, the patches that I made from berick's pingest branch do not apply to mine.
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10:49 yboston heads up there will be an IRC practice time at 11 AM EST
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10:52 jeff It is intensely quiet for the day after an upgrade.
10:52 jeff I'm okay with this.
10:53 krvmga jeff: me, too :)
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10:57 kmlussier yboston++
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10:59 JBoyer jeff: That's because the changes that staff will lose their minds over won't be discovered for 2-3 weeks. Pleasant dreams in the meantime!
10:59 JBoyer (srsly though, I'm sure you'll be in fine shape.)
11:00 berick heh
11:00 yboston welcome anyone here for the IRC practice session
11:01 yboston also, hello to those that are regularly here
11:01 yboston this Yamil Suarez from Berkle College - aka yboston
11:01 glenm Good morning Yamil, I am here for the IRC session.  --  Glen from Ann Arbor.
11:01 yboston go ahead and type a greeting
11:01 dcz Hi, Yamil. Hello everyone
11:01 yboston hello again Glenn
11:01 * kmlussier waves to glenm and dcz
11:01 bcormack Hi Yamil, I'm here for the IRC session too.
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11:02 yboston hello
11:02 glenm Hi Kathy.
11:02 Stareagle Hi there, this is stuart from beaufort sc
11:02 yboston time for the first IRC trick, which is addressign and/or replying to someone in particular
11:02 yboston what you do is start your message with their IRC “nickname”
11:02 kmlussier Hi bcormack and Stareagle!
11:03 yboston then type a colon, then a message
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11:03 yboston for example
11:03 yboston glenm: nice to “see” you again since the conference
11:03 yboston go ahead and address/reply to each other
11:03 glenm yamil: you too.
11:03 Stareagle kmlussier: hi, how are you?
11:04 kmlussier Stareagle: I'm doing well for a Monday! :)
11:04 dcz kmlussier: thanks for the wave!
11:04 bcormack kmlussier and Stareagle: I'm Barbara Cormack with Equinox.
11:05 terran Hi everybody, this is Terran from PINES
11:05 yboston excellent
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11:05 katiemartin Hello everyone! Katie here from BCLS in PA.
11:05 yboston again if this is your first time, pelase say hello
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11:05 dluch Hi all!  It's Debbie from MOBIUS.  Not my first time, but I'm not here much.
11:06 dcz katiemartin: hello
11:06 yboston also try replying/addressign me by first typing someone “nickname” immediately followed by a colon then a space
11:06 yboston for exmaple...
11:06 yboston kmlussier: hi Kathy
11:06 StJoesCONLib Hello all
11:07 glenm mdriscoll:hi martha, this is glen from ann arbor.
11:07 dluch yboston: Hey, Yamil
11:07 StJoesCONLib Does anyone know how or where to setup the Auto-Generate Barcode button in Volume and Copy Creator?
11:07 yboston this approach is extremely helpful when more than one conversation is going on at the same time in this channel (or any other typical channel)
11:07 bcormack yboston: Hi Yamil, thanks for this session.
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11:07 yboston in the IRC section of the Evergreen site there is a list of tips
11:07 yboston bcormack: you are welcome
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11:07 yboston BTW, most IRC software, and the web broswer version lets you use the “tab” key to autocompelte nicknames
11:08 dcz yboston: Nice!
11:08 yboston so for example, just type the letters “yb” then hit tab
11:08 yboston it should autocompelte my nickname
11:08 yboston try it
11:08 bcormack yboston:  Handy!
11:08 dluch yboston: Cool!
11:08 yboston notice that it usually adds a colon and a space for you, which usually it is what you want, but not always
11:09 Stareagle yboston: Grest thats useful
11:09 glenm yamil:question.  My username shows up underlined.  Is that something which likely happened when I first signed in?
11:09 Stareagle yboston: i meant greast
11:09 dluch yboston: so sometimes you don't want the colon and space?
11:09 Stareagle yboston: or great even !!!
11:09 yboston glenm: not sure why, I am usre it varies by IRC software
11:09 glenm yamil: or is that because it shows up that way if it's the person typing?
11:09 mdriscoll glenm: Hi Glenn!
11:09 kmlussier StJoesCONLib: This e-mail explains how auto-generated barcodes work http://markmail.org/message/nsvfe3l7wa6slcqd
11:10 hopkinsju Hi guys! I've come to interrupt your meeting with an unrelated but seemingly urgent question! Can someone give me attention right now?
11:10 yboston dluch: one situation when you don’t need the colon is when giving someone “karma”
11:10 terran Stareagle: :D
11:10 hopkinsju yboston++
11:10 yboston “karma” is a pat in the back to someoen or something
11:10 yboston like...
11:10 yboston kmlussier++
11:10 dluch Like yboston++
11:11 yboston yes
11:11 bcormack yboston: Do you just add the plus signs or say why they are getting the karma?
11:11 bcormack yboston: Maybe it's contextual? :)
11:11 hopkinsju Anything after the plus signs is discarded, and anything before them is included in the karma allocatoin
11:11 yboston BTW, the you can also use “—“ to give displeasure to soemthing but not someone
11:11 terran glenm: I usually use the web interface and it underlines my own name when I post.
11:11 yboston unless it is yourself
11:12 yboston hopkinsju++
11:12 hopkinsju Internet Explorer-- #because reasons
11:12 yboston for example...
11:12 yboston MOndays--
11:12 krvmga hi everyone, this is jim from cwmars :)
11:12 glenm terran: thanks, I think that's what it is doing, I am just using a browser.
11:12 yboston krvmga: hola
11:12 StJoesCONLib thanks kmlussier I understad that now and it makes sense
11:12 yboston in the IRC section of the Evergreen site there is a list of tips
11:12 krvmga yboston: hola!
11:12 yboston https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/
11:13 * krvmga wishes he knew how to make the upside down punctuation.
11:13 yboston here is a link to the “quick start guide” on the IRC section
11:13 yboston http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=community:irc-quick-start
11:13 yboston I will follow this guide made by kmlussier for this practice
11:13 yboston kmlussier++
11:13 bcormack krvmga: Hi from a former Mass. resident
11:14 yboston so please follow the link so you can refer to it
11:14 yboston http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=community:irc-quick-start
11:14 dluch yboston: so, making the note like krvmga did up there, with the asterisk--how's that work?
11:14 krvmga bcormack; hi! :)
11:14 dluch Oh, duh.  I just saw it on the quick guide.  sorry
11:14 krvmga bcormack: hi! :) (sorry, fumble fingers delay results in semi-colon rather than colon)
11:14 yboston dluch: no worries I will get to it
11:15 dluch :-)
11:15 krvmga dluch: type /me and it will happen
11:15 yboston so if we look at the quick start guide, we already discovered addressing/replying to someone
11:15 yboston http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=community:irc-quick-start
11:15 * krvmga gives dluch interesting information.
11:15 yboston lets try “private messages”
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11:15 yboston BTW, all Evergreen community chats are publicly logged
11:16 yboston do not post password or sentive information here
11:16 yboston *sensitive
11:16 * dluch waves to krvmga
11:16 yboston on the other hand, if you send a “private message” you communications will not be publicly logged
11:16 * krvmga waves back to dluch.
11:16 * Bmagic loves to chat on IRC with all the wonderful community members!
11:16 yboston to send a private message you need to start your message witht he prefix: /msg nickname
11:17 krvmga so remember, what happens in IRC doesn't stay in IRC :)
11:17 yboston for example try messaging me with: /msg yboston
11:17 krvmga not private
11:18 * bcormack wonders why some lines in her chat client are highlighted in a different color - ?
11:18 krvmga bcormack: did you see the little mark next to your name that shows you got a private message?
11:18 krvmga sorry, next to MY name - that i sent you one :)
11:19 yboston bcormack: in the IRC software that I use, sometimes if it thinks someone is repling to me, that line is highlighted
11:19 yboston bcormack: just a theory
11:19 krvmga (at least i think that's what i think you might be seeing)
11:19 Bmagic bcormack: IRC does not highlight anything. Your software on your computer is programmed to give you visual aid. You can configure those options usually
11:19 * glenm tries waving at klussier
11:19 yboston bcormack: are you using special software or using your web browser and the IRC web gateway?
11:20 bcormack All: thanks for these helpful hints. I'm using the Quassel client on a Windows 10 PC.
11:20 yboston for the record, private messages are a lot more private compared to the chatting we are all doign right now out in the open
11:20 yboston but I am not sure if there is any encryption to the private messages
11:20 hopkinsju krvmga: ctrl+alt+shift+1
11:20 hopkinsju ?
11:20 bshum @love quassel
11:20 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.  bshum loves quassel.
11:21 Dyrcona My client shows different users in different colors, and a user gets highlighted if they mention me directly.
11:21 hopkinsju OSX It's Opt+1
11:21 Stareagle yboston: When I type the private message I see it in my window but presume otheres will not see it correct?
11:21 yboston the next topic on the quick start guide is karma, which we already covered, but try it if you have not already
11:21 yboston http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=community:irc-quick-start
11:21 terran yboston++
11:21 Stareagle yboston++
11:21 dluch yboston: did you get my private message test?
11:21 krvmga hopkinsju: ??
11:21 yboston Stareagle: yes, if doen corerctly you and your recipient should be the only ones
11:21 hopkinsju I'm convinced that this whole "IRC Practice" session is just a scheme for yboston to get more karma
11:22 bcormack Dyrcona: Ah, I think that's it. (Der)
11:22 hopkinsju krvmga: Inverted punctuation
11:22 Dyrcona hah!
11:22 yboston hopkinsju: I was just about to admit my master plan
11:22 gsams It's a good scheme then!
11:22 krvmga hopkinsju++
11:22 glenm yboston++
11:22 Dyrcona hopkinsju++
11:22 yboston ¡suckers!
11:22 Bmagic @karma hopkinsju
11:22 pinesol_green Bmagic: Karma for "hopkinsju" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
11:22 Dyrcona @karma yboston
11:22 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Karma for "yboston" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13.
11:22 Bmagic @karma Bmagic
11:22 pinesol_green Bmagic: Karma for "Bmagic" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
11:22 Dyrcona yboston++
11:22 hopkinsju @karma globalthermonuclearwar
11:22 pinesol_green hopkinsju: globalthermonuclearwar has neutral karma.
11:23 yboston for the record, so far I have gotten 5 private messages and I replied with “¡hola!” to all of them
11:23 kmlussier hopkinsju: That's okay. yboston  deserves the karma.
11:23 kmlussier yboston++
11:23 yboston go ahead and send me a private message if you have not already
11:23 dcz yboston: received your response, thansk
11:24 terran yboston earns every bit of that karma :)
11:24 dluch yboston: I heard a beeping noise, but didn't actually see a response.
11:25 Stareagle g
11:25 glenm yboston: yamil, did you get a private message?  I didn't see a reply.
11:25 Dyrcona It can take a while for replies sometimes.
11:25 Dyrcona yboston is only one person, after all.
11:25 yboston I just went back and got a second wave of private responses
11:25 yboston I shoudl have replied privately to all of you
11:26 Dyrcona Also, if you ask a question in IRC and don't get an answer right away, stick around for a while.
11:26 Stareagle I get private messages now, you have to look up :-)
11:26 yboston in can be a little confusing to switch between what was the private chat and the open /regular chat
11:26 yboston Dyrcona: “there are dozens of us”
11:26 dluch Ah!  Got it
11:27 * bcormack Note to self: Look at the screen...!
11:27 glenm yboston: sorry, where do I read a reply to a private message?  somewhere else on the screen?
11:27 Dyrcona Pretty much everyone here is doing something else, and not just watching IRC all day, so it can take a while sometimes for someone to notice a question.
11:27 yboston glenm: there should be soem user interface element that is for a “new tab” that you have to access
11:28 yboston glenm: to be able to bring up the private chat are for our shared message
11:28 yboston glenm: it depends on the IRC software or the web version
11:28 yboston glenm: I have replied a few times to yo already, you probaly need to find how to activate the private message view in your UI
11:29 yboston Apaprently for some of you the private replies show up in red
11:29 yboston BTW, before we go on I wnated to mention
11:29 glenm Yes, I am just using a browser, and private replies show up with the username in red.
11:30 yboston that I don’t expect you to leave here being experts at IRC
11:30 yboston I want you to be less afraid and more expereinced that when you showed up
11:30 krvmga yboston:
11:30 krvmga 1
11:30 krvmga did not work :(
11:30 yboston you just need to remember that their is a “quick start” guide and other help on the EG site
11:30 krvmga ¡Hola!
11:30 krvmga THAT time it did.
11:31 yboston Here is the IRC section on the site: https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/
11:31 yboston so back to the “quick start guide”
11:31 krvmga Ctrl+Shift+U then 00a1
11:31 StJoesCONLib One more question, hate to be a bother.  We are implementing overdue emails, we have the event in the cron, but we aren't receiving any emails, is there something else Im missing?
11:31 yboston http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=community:irc-quick-start
11:31 yboston krvmga: ¡muy bien!
11:31 yboston the next topic is “voting"
11:31 krvmga yboston++
11:32 yboston “Type +1 to vote or show support for an idea. Alternatively, use -1 to vote against or show opposition to an idea."
11:32 Stareagle +1
11:32 krvmga +1
11:32 bcormack +1
11:32 glenm +1
11:32 yboston for example soemone may ask if we should get coffee
11:32 yboston -1 (I dont drink coffee)
11:32 yboston :)
11:32 Dyrcona @coffee yboston
11:32 krvmga +1 # would like a little coffee right now
11:32 glenm definitely +1
11:32 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Panama Elida Estate, and sends it sliding down the bar to yboston
11:32 bcormack yboston: If you really like an idea can you use more than one +?
11:33 Stareagle +1 Igot one right now
11:33 Dyrcona @coffe krfmga
11:33 pinesol_green Dyrcona: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
11:33 Dyrcona heh.. typos.
11:33 krvmga :)
11:33 yboston bcormack: yes, you can use more than one +
11:33 bcormack yboston: ++
11:33 dcz @coffee Dyrcona
11:33 yboston though, there is soemthing called “meetbot” which is an assitant for runnign meetings
11:33 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Lintong, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona
11:33 yboston when usign meetbot for actual voting, you vote slightly differently
11:34 yboston on the IRC page: https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/
11:34 yboston there is a link for info on “meetbot” http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/dok​u.php?id=community:using-meetbot
11:34 gsams ¿
11:34 yboston it is great at creating meetign minutes
11:35 kmlussier I'm late, but big +1 to the coffee vote
11:35 yboston the next trick from the “quick start guide” is “Actions (speak in third person)”
11:35 Dyrcona Also, if we're having a meeting, you might be asked to wait for an answer to your question until the meeting is over.
11:35 yboston http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=community:irc-quick-start
11:35 kmlussier @coffee everyone in the #evergreen IRC channel
11:35 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of El Salvador Finca Kilimanjaro, and sends it sliding down the bar to everyone in the #evergreen IRC channel
11:35 bcormack pinesol_green: ++
11:36 pinesol_green bcormack: have you tried local mean solar time for the named city as the reference point?
11:36 yboston you prefix your message with: /me I look up pinsesol link
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11:36 * Stareagle Drinking coffee!!
11:36 * yboston start looking for the link for pinesol_green
11:37 bcormack pinesol_green: No! How do I do that??
11:37 pinesol_green bcormack: connect to host dev port 22: Connection refused
11:37 pinesol_green bcormack: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
11:37 * glenm also drinking coffee.
11:37 yboston the final trick in the “quick start guide” is for sending a message to someone the next time they log in, but I think we shold not try today
11:37 yboston since we are so many, but at least you can read about it
11:37 yboston http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=community:irc-quick-start
11:38 yboston the last concept I wanted to cover is this thing called “pinseol_green”
11:38 yboston it is a type of electronic helper for IRC
11:38 yboston you can use it for fun and for work related stuff
11:38 * Stareagle 's coffee all gone boo hoo
11:39 yboston you can ask for the current weather in a zip code...
11:39 * bcormack I definitely need more coffee now.
11:39 yboston Here is a link with sample commands…http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=community:using-pinesol_green
11:39 terran @coffee Stareagle
11:39 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Nekisse Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to Stareagle
11:39 terran @coffee bcormack
11:39 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Yirgacheffe, and sends it sliding down the bar to bcormack
11:39 Stareagle pinesol_green: Cheers mate
11:39 pinesol_green Stareagle: did you finish your beer?
11:39 pinesol_green Factoid 'Cheers mate' not found
11:40 yboston I like using it to look up info on a specific Evergreen bug by using the bug number from the LaunchPad site
11:40 yboston (LaunchPad is the site we use to keep track of Evergreen bbugs)
11:40 yboston BTW, often times LaunchPad is abreviated as “lp”
11:40 Stareagle pinesol_green: Beer?, there was beer?
11:40 pinesol_green Stareagle: http://www.firstpersontetris.com/
11:40 pinesol_green Stareagle: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
11:40 * bcormack feel silly, thought pinesol was someone's nickname.
11:41 yboston for example...
11:41 * dluch passes coffee to those out, reaches for tea
11:41 yboston lp 1031335
11:41 kmlussier bcormack: That happens a lot. No reason to feel silly. :)
11:41 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1031335 in Evergreen "Email templates should always escape headers" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031335
11:41 bcormack kmlussier: How does it know all these coffee things? ;)
11:42 * dcz can only find diet coke in the frig
11:42 yboston pinesol_green also can give you information on a code commit, by using the commit hash
11:42 pinesol_green yboston: Evergreen Command Center http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1204​/EndeavourFlightDeck_cooper_1050.jpg
11:42 pinesol_green yboston: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
11:42 yboston 3e614940ad2fbdb6ec88e96b580ca7437e044410
11:42 pinesol_green yboston: [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1554714 Ang. 2.5 hotkeys plugin update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3e61494>
11:43 yboston At this point I have covered all that I wanted to cover in this practice time
11:43 yboston any questions?
11:43 yboston also, we have the channel for another 15 minutes
11:43 yboston feel free to coninue practicing
11:43 yboston *continue
11:44 glenm yboston: thanks for the class!
11:44 dcz Thanks for the IRC practice yboston++
11:44 bcormack yboston: Second that!
11:44 dluch Thanks, yboston, this was great!
11:44 dluch yboston++
11:44 * terran is having more fun doing this than creating post-conference surveys
11:44 terran yboston++
11:44 kmlussier yboston++
11:44 Stareagle yboston: Cheers mate!! ++
11:45 bcormack yboston: ++
11:45 yboston oen more thing, check out the community calendar so you can see when meetings are schedule so you can at least follow along
11:45 yboston https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/calendar/
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11:45 yboston we try to do everything out in the open, and you can just sit int he baclony and just read along
11:45 dluch lp 1564624
11:45 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1564624 in Evergreen "Patrons should be able to request Acquisitions" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1564624
11:45 yboston that is what I did for a long itme
11:45 yboston *time
11:45 * kmlussier notes that yboston needs just one more karma point to grab the #2 spot
11:45 dluch yboston++
11:46 Stareagle yboston++
11:46 kmlussier @karma
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11:46 pinesol_green kmlussier: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (28), "yboston" (22), "kmlussier" (20), "jeff" (17), and "Dyrcona" (17).  Lowest karma: "source" (-1), "drupal" (-1), "peanut_m&ms" (-1), "marc" (-1), and "reports" (-1).  You (kmlussier) are ranked 3 out of 68.
11:46 yboston kmlussier: the check is in the mail
11:46 Stareagle yboston: There you go........
11:46 bcormack yboston++
11:46 kmlussier yboston: I don't want a check. I want flan.
11:46 dluch lol
11:46 Dyrcona peanut_m&ms++
11:46 Stareagle @karma
11:46 pinesol_green Stareagle: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (28), "yboston" (23), "kmlussier" (20), "jeff" (17), and "Dyrcona" (17).  Lowest karma: "source" (-1), "drupal" (-1), "marc" (-1), "reports" (-1), and "Vandelay." (-1).
11:46 yboston peanut_m&ms++
11:47 terran @love peanut_m&ms
11:47 pinesol_green terran: The operation succeeded.  terran loves peanut_m&ms.
11:47 Dyrcona kmlussier: Ok, the flan is in the mail..... (And that sounds like a line from a movie.)
11:47 kmlussier yuck peanut_m&ms--
11:47 Dyrcona @karma peanut_m&ms
11:47 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Karma for "peanut_m&ms" has been increased 2 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 0.
11:48 bcormack @coffee
11:48 Stareagle Salted peanuts and a bar of dark chocolate yum
11:48 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Kenya Peaberry Nyeri-Tatu, and sends it sliding down the bar to bcormack
11:48 krvmga i LOVE peanut m&ms
11:48 dluch @hot chocolate
11:48 pinesol_green dluch: Thank you dluch! But our princess is in another castle!
11:48 krvmga one of my top favorites
11:48 krvmga peanut_m&ms++
11:48 kmlussier @hates
11:48 pinesol_green kmlussier hates Launchpad search; Internet Explorer; snow; scheduling meetings; Starbucks; negative balances; undrinkable coffee; winter; blizzards; spam; dojo interfaces; and Windows line endings
11:49 Dyrcona @hates
11:49 pinesol_green Dyrcona hates MARC; English orthography; Launchpad Search; and printing
11:49 kmlussier @hate peanut M&Ms
11:49 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.  kmlussier hates peanut M&Ms.
11:49 terran @loves
11:49 pinesol_green terran loves coffee; iterative design; and peanut_m&ms
11:49 Dyrcona @loves
11:49 pinesol_green Dyrcona loves git; sed; OpenBSD; gnu/emacs; git tag; and git-quickpick
11:49 Stareagle hates
11:49 Stareagle @hates
11:49 pinesol_green Stareagle: Stareagle doesn't seem to hate anything.
11:49 dluch @loves tea
11:49 pinesol_green dluch: tea doesn't seem to love anything.
11:49 bcormack @loves
11:49 pinesol_green bcormack: bcormack doesn't seem to love anything.
11:49 Stareagle OK so how do you all get a hate list?
11:49 * bcormack Wah!
11:50 Dyrcona dluch: just @love tea
11:50 gsams_ @love tea
11:50 pinesol_green gsams_: The operation succeeded.  gsams_ loves tea.
11:50 dluch Ah.  thanks
11:50 kmlussier @love IRC practice time
11:50 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.  kmlussier loves IRC practice time.
11:50 dluch @love tea
11:50 pinesol_green dluch: The operation succeeded.  dluch loves tea.
11:50 Dyrcona or @hate something
11:50 bcormack @love coffee
11:50 pinesol_green bcormack: The operation succeeded.  bcormack loves coffee.
11:50 Dyrcona If you want to remove something later: @dontcare something
11:50 kmlussier @loves
11:50 pinesol_green kmlussier loves parts; YAOUS; Fridays; clam chowder; coffee; new fanged email thing; quassel; magic eightball; trivia; Evergreeners; BBQ; spell check; mobile catalog; new edit links in the catalog; vim; pizza; grep; spring; summer; fall; clam chowdah; ginger beer; DokuWiki; the random magic spells page; Evergreen, the whole kit and caboodle; bug squashing day; acq; reducing mouse clicks; (1 more message)
11:50 kmlussier @more
11:50 pinesol_green kmlussier: quickpick; developers who bring us the features we need just when we need them; git; and IRC practice time
11:50 Stareagle @love Dark Chocolate
11:50 pinesol_green Stareagle: The operation succeeded.  Stareagle loves Dark Chocolate.
11:50 gsams_ @loves
11:50 pinesol_green gsams_ loves tea
11:50 Stareagle @love
11:50 pinesol_green Stareagle: (love <thing>) -- Declare your love for <thing>
11:50 Dyrcona @dontcare English Orthography
11:50 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.  Dyrcona no longer hates English Orthography.
11:51 gsams @loves
11:51 pinesol_green gsams loves snow; @later; logs; reports; the random magic spells page; and git
11:51 terran @love bug squashing day
11:51 pinesol_green terran: The operation succeeded.  terran loves bug squashing day.
11:51 Stareagle @loves
11:51 pinesol_green Stareagle loves Dark Chocolate
11:51 Stareagle cool
11:51 bcormack @love Oakland
11:51 pinesol_green bcormack: The operation succeeded.  bcormack loves Oakland.
11:52 Bmagic did someone say magic?
11:52 Stareagle @hate tripe
11:52 pinesol_green Stareagle: The operation succeeded.  Stareagle hates tripe.
11:52 * kmlussier sadly needs to return to writing policy. :(
11:52 gsams @love black tea
11:52 pinesol_green gsams: The operation succeeded.  gsams loves black tea.
11:52 Stareagle @hates
11:52 pinesol_green Stareagle hates tripe
11:52 terran @love libraries
11:52 pinesol_green terran: The operation succeeded.  terran loves libraries.
11:52 terran @hates
11:52 pinesol_green terran: terran doesn't seem to hate anything.
11:52 kmlussier Bmagic: I think that was me. In my list of loves
11:52 Bmagic @love magic
11:52 pinesol_green Bmagic: The operation succeeded.  Bmagic loves magic.
11:52 gsams @hates
11:52 pinesol_green gsams hates MARC
11:52 krvmga @love
11:52 gsams ha
11:52 pinesol_green krvmga: (love <thing>) -- Declare your love for <thing>
11:52 krvmga @love madelines
11:52 pinesol_green krvmga: The operation succeeded.  krvmga loves madelines.
11:53 Stareagle OK gotta go and fight with the reporter!!
11:53 dluch @hate Mondays
11:53 pinesol_green dluch: The operation succeeded.  dluch hates Mondays.
11:54 bcormack Stareagle: have fun!
11:54 dluch Stareagle: Lol.  Good luck!
11:54 * terran goes back to the real world
11:54 * Stareagle becomes a masichist
11:55 terran Stareagle: That was more fun when I thought you were going to fight with an ACTUAL reporter.
11:56 dluch terran: That's what I thought at first, too!
11:56 Dyrcona heh
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13:57 bshum gmcharlt++ # i18n fixings
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16:15 Stompro Does anyone know if it is possible to bypass the hold placing block of the Age Hold Protection feature.  We would like to let anyone place the holds without using an override, but not fill the holds if age hold protection prevents it.  We want to just handle them with a report that tells us which titles we need to purchase to fill those holds.
16:18 bshum Uh
16:18 bshum Hmm
16:18 bshum Why use age protection at all if you're not going to enforce it?
16:18 bshum Or is that some do, and others don't?
16:19 mmorgan In our case, we want people to be able to place the holds. They'll just wait until the age protection expires to get the item, if necessary.
16:20 mmorgan Stompro: Is this the thing where the Request button doesn't appear?
16:24 gmcharlt courtesy of rhamby_, YAOUS will never run dry! https://www.zazzle.com/yaous_​coffee_mug-168484225156283420
16:24 kmlussier Stompro: Are you saying you don't want the override message to display to patrons? I think there's a setting for that.
16:26 kmlussier gmcharlt / rhamby_ : As if I didn't already have enough coffee mugs in my arsenal.
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16:26 kmlussier A part of me wants it to say YAOUS++
16:26 rhamby_ kmlussier: that somehow seems wrong
16:26 mmorgan kmlussier: Auto-Override Permitted Hold Blocks (Patrons)
16:27 Stompro kmlussier, Yes, I just want the hold to be placed, if the only holdable copies are age protected.
16:27 kmlussier Yes, that one.
16:27 kmlussier mmorgan++
16:28 Stompro kmlussier, ah, auto-override permitted hold blocks.
16:28 Stompro Thanks
16:28 kmlussier We could probably document that feature a bit better.
16:29 kmlussier rhamby_: I just realized the downside to more merchandising to raise funds for Evergreen is that it will lower the funds in my own pocket.
16:30 kmlussier Ooh! And I can pick colors too!
16:30 rhamby_ kmlussier: vacations at Harry Potter World are overrated, buy merch
16:30 kmlussier rhamby_: Yes, I will make it up to my kids by giving them a mug that says YAOUS. I'm sure they'll be quite happy with that.
16:31 kmlussier After I explain to them what YAOUS are
16:32 * kmlussier tries to remember what she was working on before she got distracted by shiny new mugs
16:32 Stompro mmorgan, No, this isn't related to that bug.  I've just been looking into streamlining our holds so I ran into that bug while looking into it, I thought I had an answer but no dice.
16:33 mmorgan Gotcha.
16:35 * kmlussier ponders the idea of getting a t-shirt that says parts++, but then decides that normal people (defined as non-Evergreeners) would find it odd.
16:43 mmorgan Heh.
16:52 * miker ponders getting a kmlussier++ shirt, figures everyone will understand :)
16:53 Dyrcona :)
16:54 bshum Go, go, #TeamKathy
16:56 kmlussier Awwww! Such a nice send-off before I make my commute home.
16:56 kmlussier Which I should have started a half-hour ago.
16:56 kmlussier Have a nice night everyone!
16:57 mmorgan Good Night!
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