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jeff |
Hrm. Mac build of the 2.10.0 client was throwing an error when trying to search the catalog, but... is no longer throwing said error. |
| 09:08 |
jeff |
If memory is at all accurate (which is often is not) it was a dialog indicating "not found" on the oils://remote/something-or-other.xul |
| 09:09 |
jeff |
I thought that there was an issue with the client build, but being unable to reproduce I'm not sure what caused it. Client cache comes to mind. |
| 09:11 |
Dyrcona |
Could be. |
| 09:13 |
kmlussier |
Good morning #evergreen. Best wishes to everyone who went through an upgrade over the weekend! |
| 09:14 |
jeff |
kmlussier: thank you! |
| 09:15 |
* jeff |
has fresh coffee and new bugs to file :-) |
| 09:17 |
jeff |
Dyrcona: pingest came in quite handy over the weekend for performing the record-attr re-ingest as part of our upgrade from 2.7.4 to 2.10.3. |
| 09:18 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: Yeah, I find it handy, too. berick has mentioned moving it into the support scripts or something like that. |
| 09:19 |
Dyrcona |
I think we'd have to merge our latest changes, 'cause he's added/changed options that I haven't merged, yet. |
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| 09:19 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm. Maybe I'll look at that while I wait on Thunderbird and Exchange to get their collective act together. |
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| 09:20 |
Dyrcona |
For some reason, Thunderbird has decided to download all of the messages in some of my IMAP folders again. |
| 09:22 |
jeff |
"glitch in the mbox. happens when they change something." |
| 09:23 |
JBoyer |
How much alike, was it the same spam message? |
| 09:26 |
Dyrcona |
Actually, it was all list mail folders. |
| 09:26 |
Dyrcona |
Mostly Open-ILS lists, but also one of our internal lists. |
| 09:26 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, I think it is something Microsoft changed that cause message ids or other metadata to change on some messages. |
| 09:27 |
JBoyer |
email message ids are fairly fragile, aren't they? Not exactly the kind of things an RFC that old would take into account. |
| 09:28 |
Dyrcona |
I s'pose, but I imagine Thunderbird expects them not to change after the messages are stored. |
| 09:28 |
Dyrcona |
And here I'm talking about IMAP IDs. |
| 09:29 |
Dyrcona |
Anyway, I'm not sure what it was, just speculatin'. |
| 09:33 |
Dyrcona |
Another fun email thing: The health insurance sends me three copies of every email: 1 for me, 1 for my wife, 1 for my daughter. |
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Dyrcona |
Naturally, the patches that I made from berick's pingest branch do not apply to mine. |
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yboston |
heads up there will be an IRC practice time at 11 AM EST |
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| 10:52 |
jeff |
It is intensely quiet for the day after an upgrade. |
| 10:52 |
jeff |
I'm okay with this. |
| 10:53 |
krvmga |
jeff: me, too :) |
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kmlussier |
yboston++ |
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| 10:59 |
JBoyer |
jeff: That's because the changes that staff will lose their minds over won't be discovered for 2-3 weeks. Pleasant dreams in the meantime! |
| 10:59 |
JBoyer |
(srsly though, I'm sure you'll be in fine shape.) |
| 11:00 |
berick |
heh |
| 11:00 |
yboston |
welcome anyone here for the IRC practice session |
| 11:01 |
yboston |
also, hello to those that are regularly here |
| 11:01 |
yboston |
this Yamil Suarez from Berkle College - aka yboston |
| 11:01 |
glenm |
Good morning Yamil, I am here for the IRC session. -- Glen from Ann Arbor. |
| 11:01 |
yboston |
go ahead and type a greeting |
| 11:01 |
dcz |
Hi, Yamil. Hello everyone |
| 11:01 |
yboston |
hello again Glenn |
| 11:01 |
* kmlussier |
waves to glenm and dcz |
| 11:01 |
bcormack |
Hi Yamil, I'm here for the IRC session too. |
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| 11:02 |
yboston |
hello |
| 11:02 |
glenm |
Hi Kathy. |
| 11:02 |
Stareagle |
Hi there, this is stuart from beaufort sc |
| 11:02 |
yboston |
time for the first IRC trick, which is addressign and/or replying to someone in particular |
| 11:02 |
yboston |
what you do is start your message with their IRC “nickname” |
| 11:02 |
kmlussier |
Hi bcormack and Stareagle! |
| 11:03 |
yboston |
then type a colon, then a message |
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| 11:03 |
yboston |
for example |
| 11:03 |
yboston |
glenm: nice to “see” you again since the conference |
| 11:03 |
yboston |
go ahead and address/reply to each other |
| 11:03 |
glenm |
yamil: you too. |
| 11:03 |
Stareagle |
kmlussier: hi, how are you? |
| 11:04 |
kmlussier |
Stareagle: I'm doing well for a Monday! :) |
| 11:04 |
dcz |
kmlussier: thanks for the wave! |
| 11:04 |
bcormack |
kmlussier and Stareagle: I'm Barbara Cormack with Equinox. |
| 11:05 |
terran |
Hi everybody, this is Terran from PINES |
| 11:05 |
yboston |
excellent |
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| 11:05 |
katiemartin |
Hello everyone! Katie here from BCLS in PA. |
| 11:05 |
yboston |
again if this is your first time, pelase say hello |
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| 11:05 |
dluch |
Hi all! It's Debbie from MOBIUS. Not my first time, but I'm not here much. |
| 11:06 |
dcz |
katiemartin: hello |
| 11:06 |
yboston |
also try replying/addressign me by first typing someone “nickname” immediately followed by a colon then a space |
| 11:06 |
yboston |
for exmaple... |
| 11:06 |
yboston |
kmlussier: hi Kathy |
| 11:06 |
StJoesCONLib |
Hello all |
| 11:07 |
glenm |
mdriscoll:hi martha, this is glen from ann arbor. |
| 11:07 |
dluch |
yboston: Hey, Yamil |
| 11:07 |
StJoesCONLib |
Does anyone know how or where to setup the Auto-Generate Barcode button in Volume and Copy Creator? |
| 11:07 |
yboston |
this approach is extremely helpful when more than one conversation is going on at the same time in this channel (or any other typical channel) |
| 11:07 |
bcormack |
yboston: Hi Yamil, thanks for this session. |
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| 11:07 |
yboston |
in the IRC section of the Evergreen site there is a list of tips |
| 11:07 |
yboston |
bcormack: you are welcome |
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| 11:07 |
yboston |
BTW, most IRC software, and the web broswer version lets you use the “tab” key to autocompelte nicknames |
| 11:08 |
dcz |
yboston: Nice! |
| 11:08 |
yboston |
so for example, just type the letters “yb” then hit tab |
| 11:08 |
yboston |
it should autocompelte my nickname |
| 11:08 |
yboston |
try it |
| 11:08 |
bcormack |
yboston: Handy! |
| 11:08 |
dluch |
yboston: Cool! |
| 11:08 |
yboston |
notice that it usually adds a colon and a space for you, which usually it is what you want, but not always |
| 11:09 |
Stareagle |
yboston: Grest thats useful |
| 11:09 |
glenm |
yamil:question. My username shows up underlined. Is that something which likely happened when I first signed in? |
| 11:09 |
Stareagle |
yboston: i meant greast |
| 11:09 |
dluch |
yboston: so sometimes you don't want the colon and space? |
| 11:09 |
Stareagle |
yboston: or great even !!! |
| 11:09 |
yboston |
glenm: not sure why, I am usre it varies by IRC software |
| 11:09 |
glenm |
yamil: or is that because it shows up that way if it's the person typing? |
| 11:09 |
mdriscoll |
glenm: Hi Glenn! |
| 11:09 |
kmlussier |
StJoesCONLib: This e-mail explains how auto-generated barcodes work http://markmail.org/message/nsvfe3l7wa6slcqd |
| 11:10 |
hopkinsju |
Hi guys! I've come to interrupt your meeting with an unrelated but seemingly urgent question! Can someone give me attention right now? |
| 11:10 |
yboston |
dluch: one situation when you don’t need the colon is when giving someone “karma” |
| 11:10 |
terran |
Stareagle: :D |
| 11:10 |
hopkinsju |
yboston++ |
| 11:10 |
yboston |
“karma” is a pat in the back to someoen or something |
| 11:10 |
yboston |
like... |
| 11:10 |
yboston |
kmlussier++ |
| 11:10 |
dluch |
Like yboston++ |
| 11:11 |
yboston |
yes |
| 11:11 |
bcormack |
yboston: Do you just add the plus signs or say why they are getting the karma? |
| 11:11 |
bcormack |
yboston: Maybe it's contextual? :) |
| 11:11 |
hopkinsju |
Anything after the plus signs is discarded, and anything before them is included in the karma allocatoin |
| 11:11 |
yboston |
BTW, the you can also use “—“ to give displeasure to soemthing but not someone |
| 11:11 |
terran |
glenm: I usually use the web interface and it underlines my own name when I post. |
| 11:11 |
yboston |
unless it is yourself |
| 11:12 |
yboston |
hopkinsju++ |
| 11:12 |
hopkinsju |
Internet Explorer-- #because reasons |
| 11:12 |
yboston |
for example... |
| 11:12 |
yboston |
MOndays-- |
| 11:12 |
krvmga |
hi everyone, this is jim from cwmars :) |
| 11:12 |
glenm |
terran: thanks, I think that's what it is doing, I am just using a browser. |
| 11:12 |
yboston |
krvmga: hola |
| 11:12 |
StJoesCONLib |
thanks kmlussier I understad that now and it makes sense |
| 11:12 |
yboston |
in the IRC section of the Evergreen site there is a list of tips |
| 11:12 |
krvmga |
yboston: hola! |
| 11:12 |
yboston |
https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/ |
| 11:13 |
* krvmga |
wishes he knew how to make the upside down punctuation. |
| 11:13 |
yboston |
here is a link to the “quick start guide” on the IRC section |
| 11:13 |
yboston |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:irc-quick-start |
| 11:13 |
yboston |
I will follow this guide made by kmlussier for this practice |
| 11:13 |
yboston |
kmlussier++ |
| 11:13 |
bcormack |
krvmga: Hi from a former Mass. resident |
| 11:14 |
yboston |
so please follow the link so you can refer to it |
| 11:14 |
yboston |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:irc-quick-start |
| 11:14 |
dluch |
yboston: so, making the note like krvmga did up there, with the asterisk--how's that work? |
| 11:14 |
krvmga |
bcormack; hi! :) |
| 11:14 |
dluch |
Oh, duh. I just saw it on the quick guide. sorry |
| 11:14 |
krvmga |
bcormack: hi! :) (sorry, fumble fingers delay results in semi-colon rather than colon) |
| 11:14 |
yboston |
dluch: no worries I will get to it |
| 11:15 |
dluch |
:-) |
| 11:15 |
krvmga |
dluch: type /me and it will happen |
| 11:15 |
yboston |
so if we look at the quick start guide, we already discovered addressing/replying to someone |
| 11:15 |
yboston |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:irc-quick-start |
| 11:15 |
* krvmga |
gives dluch interesting information. |
| 11:15 |
yboston |
lets try “private messages” |
| 11:15 |
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| 11:15 |
yboston |
BTW, all Evergreen community chats are publicly logged |
| 11:16 |
yboston |
do not post password or sentive information here |
| 11:16 |
yboston |
*sensitive |
| 11:16 |
* dluch |
waves to krvmga |
| 11:16 |
yboston |
on the other hand, if you send a “private message” you communications will not be publicly logged |
| 11:16 |
* krvmga |
waves back to dluch. |
| 11:16 |
* Bmagic |
loves to chat on IRC with all the wonderful community members! |
| 11:16 |
yboston |
to send a private message you need to start your message witht he prefix: /msg nickname |
| 11:17 |
krvmga |
so remember, what happens in IRC doesn't stay in IRC :) |
| 11:17 |
yboston |
for example try messaging me with: /msg yboston |
| 11:17 |
krvmga |
not private |
| 11:18 |
* bcormack |
wonders why some lines in her chat client are highlighted in a different color - ? |
| 11:18 |
krvmga |
bcormack: did you see the little mark next to your name that shows you got a private message? |
| 11:18 |
krvmga |
sorry, next to MY name - that i sent you one :) |
| 11:19 |
yboston |
bcormack: in the IRC software that I use, sometimes if it thinks someone is repling to me, that line is highlighted |
| 11:19 |
yboston |
bcormack: just a theory |
| 11:19 |
krvmga |
(at least i think that's what i think you might be seeing) |
| 11:19 |
Bmagic |
bcormack: IRC does not highlight anything. Your software on your computer is programmed to give you visual aid. You can configure those options usually |
| 11:19 |
* glenm |
tries waving at klussier |
| 11:19 |
yboston |
bcormack: are you using special software or using your web browser and the IRC web gateway? |
| 11:20 |
bcormack |
All: thanks for these helpful hints. I'm using the Quassel client on a Windows 10 PC. |
| 11:20 |
yboston |
for the record, private messages are a lot more private compared to the chatting we are all doign right now out in the open |
| 11:20 |
yboston |
but I am not sure if there is any encryption to the private messages |
| 11:20 |
hopkinsju |
krvmga: ctrl+alt+shift+1 |
| 11:20 |
hopkinsju |
? |
| 11:20 |
bshum |
@love quassel |
| 11:20 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: The operation succeeded. bshum loves quassel. |
| 11:21 |
Dyrcona |
My client shows different users in different colors, and a user gets highlighted if they mention me directly. |
| 11:21 |
hopkinsju |
OSX It's Opt+1 |
| 11:21 |
Stareagle |
yboston: When I type the private message I see it in my window but presume otheres will not see it correct? |
| 11:21 |
yboston |
the next topic on the quick start guide is karma, which we already covered, but try it if you have not already |
| 11:21 |
yboston |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:irc-quick-start |
| 11:21 |
terran |
yboston++ |
| 11:21 |
Stareagle |
yboston++ |
| 11:21 |
dluch |
yboston: did you get my private message test? |
| 11:21 |
krvmga |
hopkinsju: ?? |
| 11:21 |
yboston |
Stareagle: yes, if doen corerctly you and your recipient should be the only ones |
| 11:21 |
hopkinsju |
I'm convinced that this whole "IRC Practice" session is just a scheme for yboston to get more karma |
| 11:22 |
bcormack |
Dyrcona: Ah, I think that's it. (Der) |
| 11:22 |
hopkinsju |
krvmga: Inverted punctuation |
| 11:22 |
Dyrcona |
hah! |
| 11:22 |
yboston |
hopkinsju: I was just about to admit my master plan |
| 11:22 |
gsams |
It's a good scheme then! |
| 11:22 |
krvmga |
hopkinsju++ |
| 11:22 |
glenm |
yboston++ |
| 11:22 |
Dyrcona |
hopkinsju++ |
| 11:22 |
yboston |
¡suckers! |
| 11:22 |
Bmagic |
@karma hopkinsju |
| 11:22 |
pinesol_green |
Bmagic: Karma for "hopkinsju" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. |
| 11:22 |
Dyrcona |
@karma yboston |
| 11:22 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Karma for "yboston" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13. |
| 11:22 |
Bmagic |
@karma Bmagic |
| 11:22 |
pinesol_green |
Bmagic: Karma for "Bmagic" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 11:22 |
Dyrcona |
yboston++ |
| 11:22 |
hopkinsju |
@karma globalthermonuclearwar |
| 11:22 |
pinesol_green |
hopkinsju: globalthermonuclearwar has neutral karma. |
| 11:23 |
yboston |
for the record, so far I have gotten 5 private messages and I replied with “¡hola!” to all of them |
| 11:23 |
kmlussier |
hopkinsju: That's okay. yboston deserves the karma. |
| 11:23 |
kmlussier |
yboston++ |
| 11:23 |
yboston |
go ahead and send me a private message if you have not already |
| 11:23 |
dcz |
yboston: received your response, thansk |
| 11:24 |
terran |
yboston earns every bit of that karma :) |
| 11:24 |
dluch |
yboston: I heard a beeping noise, but didn't actually see a response. |
| 11:25 |
Stareagle |
g |
| 11:25 |
glenm |
yboston: yamil, did you get a private message? I didn't see a reply. |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
It can take a while for replies sometimes. |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
yboston is only one person, after all. |
| 11:25 |
yboston |
I just went back and got a second wave of private responses |
| 11:25 |
yboston |
I shoudl have replied privately to all of you |
| 11:26 |
Dyrcona |
Also, if you ask a question in IRC and don't get an answer right away, stick around for a while. |
| 11:26 |
Stareagle |
I get private messages now, you have to look up :-) |
| 11:26 |
yboston |
in can be a little confusing to switch between what was the private chat and the open /regular chat |
| 11:26 |
yboston |
Dyrcona: “there are dozens of us” |
| 11:26 |
dluch |
Ah! Got it |
| 11:27 |
* bcormack |
Note to self: Look at the screen...! |
| 11:27 |
glenm |
yboston: sorry, where do I read a reply to a private message? somewhere else on the screen? |
| 11:27 |
Dyrcona |
Pretty much everyone here is doing something else, and not just watching IRC all day, so it can take a while sometimes for someone to notice a question. |
| 11:27 |
yboston |
glenm: there should be soem user interface element that is for a “new tab” that you have to access |
| 11:28 |
yboston |
glenm: to be able to bring up the private chat are for our shared message |
| 11:28 |
yboston |
glenm: it depends on the IRC software or the web version |
| 11:28 |
yboston |
glenm: I have replied a few times to yo already, you probaly need to find how to activate the private message view in your UI |
| 11:29 |
yboston |
Apaprently for some of you the private replies show up in red |
| 11:29 |
yboston |
BTW, before we go on I wnated to mention |
| 11:29 |
glenm |
Yes, I am just using a browser, and private replies show up with the username in red. |
| 11:30 |
yboston |
that I don’t expect you to leave here being experts at IRC |
| 11:30 |
yboston |
I want you to be less afraid and more expereinced that when you showed up |
| 11:30 |
krvmga |
yboston: |
| 11:30 |
krvmga |
1 |
| 11:30 |
krvmga |
did not work :( |
| 11:30 |
yboston |
you just need to remember that their is a “quick start” guide and other help on the EG site |
| 11:30 |
krvmga |
¡Hola! |
| 11:30 |
krvmga |
THAT time it did. |
| 11:31 |
yboston |
Here is the IRC section on the site: https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/ |
| 11:31 |
yboston |
so back to the “quick start guide” |
| 11:31 |
krvmga |
Ctrl+Shift+U then 00a1 |
| 11:31 |
StJoesCONLib |
One more question, hate to be a bother. We are implementing overdue emails, we have the event in the cron, but we aren't receiving any emails, is there something else Im missing? |
| 11:31 |
yboston |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:irc-quick-start |
| 11:31 |
yboston |
krvmga: ¡muy bien! |
| 11:31 |
yboston |
the next topic is “voting" |
| 11:31 |
krvmga |
yboston++ |
| 11:32 |
yboston |
“Type +1 to vote or show support for an idea. Alternatively, use -1 to vote against or show opposition to an idea." |
| 11:32 |
Stareagle |
+1 |
| 11:32 |
krvmga |
+1 |
| 11:32 |
bcormack |
+1 |
| 11:32 |
glenm |
+1 |
| 11:32 |
yboston |
for example soemone may ask if we should get coffee |
| 11:32 |
yboston |
-1 (I dont drink coffee) |
| 11:32 |
yboston |
:) |
| 11:32 |
Dyrcona |
@coffee yboston |
| 11:32 |
krvmga |
+1 # would like a little coffee right now |
| 11:32 |
glenm |
definitely +1 |
| 11:32 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Panama Elida Estate, and sends it sliding down the bar to yboston |
| 11:32 |
bcormack |
yboston: If you really like an idea can you use more than one +? |
| 11:33 |
Stareagle |
+1 Igot one right now |
| 11:33 |
Dyrcona |
@coffe krfmga |
| 11:33 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. |
| 11:33 |
Dyrcona |
heh.. typos. |
| 11:33 |
krvmga |
:) |
| 11:33 |
yboston |
bcormack: yes, you can use more than one + |
| 11:33 |
bcormack |
yboston: ++ |
| 11:33 |
dcz |
@coffee Dyrcona |
| 11:33 |
yboston |
though, there is soemthing called “meetbot” which is an assitant for runnign meetings |
| 11:33 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Lintong, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona |
| 11:33 |
yboston |
when usign meetbot for actual voting, you vote slightly differently |
| 11:34 |
yboston |
on the IRC page: https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/ |
| 11:34 |
yboston |
there is a link for info on “meetbot” http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:using-meetbot |
| 11:34 |
gsams |
¿ |
| 11:34 |
yboston |
it is great at creating meetign minutes |
| 11:35 |
kmlussier |
I'm late, but big +1 to the coffee vote |
| 11:35 |
yboston |
the next trick from the “quick start guide” is “Actions (speak in third person)” |
| 11:35 |
Dyrcona |
Also, if we're having a meeting, you might be asked to wait for an answer to your question until the meeting is over. |
| 11:35 |
yboston |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:irc-quick-start |
| 11:35 |
kmlussier |
@coffee everyone in the #evergreen IRC channel |
| 11:35 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of El Salvador Finca Kilimanjaro, and sends it sliding down the bar to everyone in the #evergreen IRC channel |
| 11:35 |
bcormack |
pinesol_green: ++ |
| 11:36 |
pinesol_green |
bcormack: have you tried local mean solar time for the named city as the reference point? |
| 11:36 |
yboston |
you prefix your message with: /me I look up pinsesol link |
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| 11:36 |
* Stareagle |
Drinking coffee!! |
| 11:36 |
* yboston |
start looking for the link for pinesol_green |
| 11:37 |
bcormack |
pinesol_green: No! How do I do that?? |
| 11:37 |
pinesol_green |
bcormack: connect to host dev port 22: Connection refused |
| 11:37 |
pinesol_green |
bcormack: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
| 11:37 |
* glenm |
also drinking coffee. |
| 11:37 |
yboston |
the final trick in the “quick start guide” is for sending a message to someone the next time they log in, but I think we shold not try today |
| 11:37 |
yboston |
since we are so many, but at least you can read about it |
| 11:37 |
yboston |
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:irc-quick-start |
| 11:38 |
yboston |
the last concept I wanted to cover is this thing called “pinseol_green” |
| 11:38 |
yboston |
it is a type of electronic helper for IRC |
| 11:38 |
yboston |
you can use it for fun and for work related stuff |
| 11:38 |
* Stareagle |
's coffee all gone boo hoo |
| 11:39 |
yboston |
you can ask for the current weather in a zip code... |
| 11:39 |
* bcormack |
I definitely need more coffee now. |
| 11:39 |
yboston |
Here is a link with sample commands…http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:using-pinesol_green |
| 11:39 |
terran |
@coffee Stareagle |
| 11:39 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Nekisse Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to Stareagle |
| 11:39 |
terran |
@coffee bcormack |
| 11:39 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Yirgacheffe, and sends it sliding down the bar to bcormack |
| 11:39 |
Stareagle |
pinesol_green: Cheers mate |
| 11:39 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle: did you finish your beer? |
| 11:39 |
pinesol_green |
Factoid 'Cheers mate' not found |
| 11:40 |
yboston |
I like using it to look up info on a specific Evergreen bug by using the bug number from the LaunchPad site |
| 11:40 |
yboston |
(LaunchPad is the site we use to keep track of Evergreen bbugs) |
| 11:40 |
yboston |
BTW, often times LaunchPad is abreviated as “lp” |
| 11:40 |
Stareagle |
pinesol_green: Beer?, there was beer? |
| 11:40 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle: http://www.firstpersontetris.com/ |
| 11:40 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
| 11:40 |
* bcormack |
feel silly, thought pinesol was someone's nickname. |
| 11:41 |
yboston |
for example... |
| 11:41 |
* dluch |
passes coffee to those out, reaches for tea |
| 11:41 |
yboston |
lp 1031335 |
| 11:41 |
kmlussier |
bcormack: That happens a lot. No reason to feel silly. :) |
| 11:41 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1031335 in Evergreen "Email templates should always escape headers" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031335 |
| 11:41 |
bcormack |
kmlussier: How does it know all these coffee things? ;) |
| 11:42 |
* dcz |
can only find diet coke in the frig |
| 11:42 |
yboston |
pinesol_green also can give you information on a code commit, by using the commit hash |
| 11:42 |
pinesol_green |
yboston: Evergreen Command Center http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1204/EndeavourFlightDeck_cooper_1050.jpg |
| 11:42 |
pinesol_green |
yboston: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
| 11:42 |
yboston |
3e614940ad2fbdb6ec88e96b580ca7437e044410 |
| 11:42 |
pinesol_green |
yboston: [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1554714 Ang. 2.5 hotkeys plugin update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3e61494> |
| 11:43 |
yboston |
At this point I have covered all that I wanted to cover in this practice time |
| 11:43 |
yboston |
any questions? |
| 11:43 |
yboston |
also, we have the channel for another 15 minutes |
| 11:43 |
yboston |
feel free to coninue practicing |
| 11:43 |
yboston |
*continue |
| 11:44 |
glenm |
yboston: thanks for the class! |
| 11:44 |
dcz |
Thanks for the IRC practice yboston++ |
| 11:44 |
bcormack |
yboston: Second that! |
| 11:44 |
dluch |
Thanks, yboston, this was great! |
| 11:44 |
dluch |
yboston++ |
| 11:44 |
* terran |
is having more fun doing this than creating post-conference surveys |
| 11:44 |
terran |
yboston++ |
| 11:44 |
kmlussier |
yboston++ |
| 11:44 |
Stareagle |
yboston: Cheers mate!! ++ |
| 11:45 |
bcormack |
yboston: ++ |
| 11:45 |
yboston |
oen more thing, check out the community calendar so you can see when meetings are schedule so you can at least follow along |
| 11:45 |
yboston |
https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/calendar/ |
| 11:45 |
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| 11:45 |
yboston |
we try to do everything out in the open, and you can just sit int he baclony and just read along |
| 11:45 |
dluch |
lp 1564624 |
| 11:45 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1564624 in Evergreen "Patrons should be able to request Acquisitions" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1564624 |
| 11:45 |
yboston |
that is what I did for a long itme |
| 11:45 |
yboston |
*time |
| 11:45 |
* kmlussier |
notes that yboston needs just one more karma point to grab the #2 spot |
| 11:45 |
dluch |
yboston++ |
| 11:46 |
Stareagle |
yboston++ |
| 11:46 |
kmlussier |
@karma |
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| 11:46 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (28), "yboston" (22), "kmlussier" (20), "jeff" (17), and "Dyrcona" (17). Lowest karma: "source" (-1), "drupal" (-1), "peanut_m&ms" (-1), "marc" (-1), and "reports" (-1). You (kmlussier) are ranked 3 out of 68. |
| 11:46 |
yboston |
kmlussier: the check is in the mail |
| 11:46 |
Stareagle |
yboston: There you go........ |
| 11:46 |
bcormack |
yboston++ |
| 11:46 |
kmlussier |
yboston: I don't want a check. I want flan. |
| 11:46 |
dluch |
lol |
| 11:46 |
Dyrcona |
peanut_m&ms++ |
| 11:46 |
Stareagle |
@karma |
| 11:46 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (28), "yboston" (23), "kmlussier" (20), "jeff" (17), and "Dyrcona" (17). Lowest karma: "source" (-1), "drupal" (-1), "marc" (-1), "reports" (-1), and "Vandelay." (-1). |
| 11:46 |
yboston |
peanut_m&ms++ |
| 11:47 |
terran |
@love peanut_m&ms |
| 11:47 |
pinesol_green |
terran: The operation succeeded. terran loves peanut_m&ms. |
| 11:47 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: Ok, the flan is in the mail..... (And that sounds like a line from a movie.) |
| 11:47 |
kmlussier |
yuck peanut_m&ms-- |
| 11:47 |
Dyrcona |
@karma peanut_m&ms |
| 11:47 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Karma for "peanut_m&ms" has been increased 2 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 0. |
| 11:48 |
bcormack |
@coffee |
| 11:48 |
Stareagle |
Salted peanuts and a bar of dark chocolate yum |
| 11:48 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Kenya Peaberry Nyeri-Tatu, and sends it sliding down the bar to bcormack |
| 11:48 |
krvmga |
i LOVE peanut m&ms |
| 11:48 |
dluch |
@hot chocolate |
| 11:48 |
pinesol_green |
dluch: Thank you dluch! But our princess is in another castle! |
| 11:48 |
krvmga |
one of my top favorites |
| 11:48 |
krvmga |
peanut_m&ms++ |
| 11:48 |
kmlussier |
@hates |
| 11:48 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier hates Launchpad search; Internet Explorer; snow; scheduling meetings; Starbucks; negative balances; undrinkable coffee; winter; blizzards; spam; dojo interfaces; and Windows line endings |
| 11:49 |
Dyrcona |
@hates |
| 11:49 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona hates MARC; English orthography; Launchpad Search; and printing |
| 11:49 |
kmlussier |
@hate peanut M&Ms |
| 11:49 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The operation succeeded. kmlussier hates peanut M&Ms. |
| 11:49 |
terran |
@loves |
| 11:49 |
pinesol_green |
terran loves coffee; iterative design; and peanut_m&ms |
| 11:49 |
Dyrcona |
@loves |
| 11:49 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona loves git; sed; OpenBSD; gnu/emacs; git tag; and git-quickpick |
| 11:49 |
Stareagle |
hates |
| 11:49 |
Stareagle |
@hates |
| 11:49 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle: Stareagle doesn't seem to hate anything. |
| 11:49 |
dluch |
@loves tea |
| 11:49 |
pinesol_green |
dluch: tea doesn't seem to love anything. |
| 11:49 |
bcormack |
@loves |
| 11:49 |
pinesol_green |
bcormack: bcormack doesn't seem to love anything. |
| 11:49 |
Stareagle |
OK so how do you all get a hate list? |
| 11:49 |
* bcormack |
Wah! |
| 11:50 |
Dyrcona |
dluch: just @love tea |
| 11:50 |
gsams_ |
@love tea |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
gsams_: The operation succeeded. gsams_ loves tea. |
| 11:50 |
dluch |
Ah. thanks |
| 11:50 |
kmlussier |
@love IRC practice time |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The operation succeeded. kmlussier loves IRC practice time. |
| 11:50 |
dluch |
@love tea |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
dluch: The operation succeeded. dluch loves tea. |
| 11:50 |
Dyrcona |
or @hate something |
| 11:50 |
bcormack |
@love coffee |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
bcormack: The operation succeeded. bcormack loves coffee. |
| 11:50 |
Dyrcona |
If you want to remove something later: @dontcare something |
| 11:50 |
kmlussier |
@loves |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier loves parts; YAOUS; Fridays; clam chowder; coffee; new fanged email thing; quassel; magic eightball; trivia; Evergreeners; BBQ; spell check; mobile catalog; new edit links in the catalog; vim; pizza; grep; spring; summer; fall; clam chowdah; ginger beer; DokuWiki; the random magic spells page; Evergreen, the whole kit and caboodle; bug squashing day; acq; reducing mouse clicks; (1 more message) |
| 11:50 |
kmlussier |
@more |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: quickpick; developers who bring us the features we need just when we need them; git; and IRC practice time |
| 11:50 |
Stareagle |
@love Dark Chocolate |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle: The operation succeeded. Stareagle loves Dark Chocolate. |
| 11:50 |
gsams_ |
@loves |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
gsams_ loves tea |
| 11:50 |
Stareagle |
@love |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle: (love <thing>) -- Declare your love for <thing> |
| 11:50 |
Dyrcona |
@dontcare English Orthography |
| 11:50 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: The operation succeeded. Dyrcona no longer hates English Orthography. |
| 11:51 |
gsams |
@loves |
| 11:51 |
pinesol_green |
gsams loves snow; @later; logs; reports; the random magic spells page; and git |
| 11:51 |
terran |
@love bug squashing day |
| 11:51 |
pinesol_green |
terran: The operation succeeded. terran loves bug squashing day. |
| 11:51 |
Stareagle |
@loves |
| 11:51 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle loves Dark Chocolate |
| 11:51 |
Stareagle |
cool |
| 11:51 |
bcormack |
@love Oakland |
| 11:51 |
pinesol_green |
bcormack: The operation succeeded. bcormack loves Oakland. |
| 11:52 |
Bmagic |
did someone say magic? |
| 11:52 |
Stareagle |
@hate tripe |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle: The operation succeeded. Stareagle hates tripe. |
| 11:52 |
* kmlussier |
sadly needs to return to writing policy. :( |
| 11:52 |
gsams |
@love black tea |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
gsams: The operation succeeded. gsams loves black tea. |
| 11:52 |
Stareagle |
@hates |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
Stareagle hates tripe |
| 11:52 |
terran |
@love libraries |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
terran: The operation succeeded. terran loves libraries. |
| 11:52 |
terran |
@hates |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
terran: terran doesn't seem to hate anything. |
| 11:52 |
kmlussier |
Bmagic: I think that was me. In my list of loves |
| 11:52 |
Bmagic |
@love magic |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
Bmagic: The operation succeeded. Bmagic loves magic. |
| 11:52 |
gsams |
@hates |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
gsams hates MARC |
| 11:52 |
krvmga |
@love |
| 11:52 |
gsams |
ha |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
krvmga: (love <thing>) -- Declare your love for <thing> |
| 11:52 |
krvmga |
@love madelines |
| 11:52 |
pinesol_green |
krvmga: The operation succeeded. krvmga loves madelines. |
| 11:53 |
Stareagle |
OK gotta go and fight with the reporter!! |
| 11:53 |
dluch |
@hate Mondays |
| 11:53 |
pinesol_green |
dluch: The operation succeeded. dluch hates Mondays. |
| 11:54 |
bcormack |
Stareagle: have fun! |
| 11:54 |
dluch |
Stareagle: Lol. Good luck! |
| 11:54 |
* terran |
goes back to the real world |
| 11:54 |
* Stareagle |
becomes a masichist |
| 11:55 |
terran |
Stareagle: That was more fun when I thought you were going to fight with an ACTUAL reporter. |
| 11:56 |
dluch |
terran: That's what I thought at first, too! |
| 11:56 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
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* glenm |
exits stage right. |
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bshum |
gmcharlt++ # i18n fixings |
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Stompro |
Does anyone know if it is possible to bypass the hold placing block of the Age Hold Protection feature. We would like to let anyone place the holds without using an override, but not fill the holds if age hold protection prevents it. We want to just handle them with a report that tells us which titles we need to purchase to fill those holds. |
| 16:18 |
bshum |
Uh |
| 16:18 |
bshum |
Hmm |
| 16:18 |
bshum |
Why use age protection at all if you're not going to enforce it? |
| 16:18 |
bshum |
Or is that some do, and others don't? |
| 16:19 |
mmorgan |
In our case, we want people to be able to place the holds. They'll just wait until the age protection expires to get the item, if necessary. |
| 16:20 |
mmorgan |
Stompro: Is this the thing where the Request button doesn't appear? |
| 16:24 |
gmcharlt |
courtesy of rhamby_, YAOUS will never run dry! https://www.zazzle.com/yaous_coffee_mug-168484225156283420 |
| 16:24 |
kmlussier |
Stompro: Are you saying you don't want the override message to display to patrons? I think there's a setting for that. |
| 16:26 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt / rhamby_ : As if I didn't already have enough coffee mugs in my arsenal. |
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kmlussier |
A part of me wants it to say YAOUS++ |
| 16:26 |
rhamby_ |
kmlussier: that somehow seems wrong |
| 16:26 |
mmorgan |
kmlussier: Auto-Override Permitted Hold Blocks (Patrons) |
| 16:27 |
Stompro |
kmlussier, Yes, I just want the hold to be placed, if the only holdable copies are age protected. |
| 16:27 |
kmlussier |
Yes, that one. |
| 16:27 |
kmlussier |
mmorgan++ |
| 16:28 |
Stompro |
kmlussier, ah, auto-override permitted hold blocks. |
| 16:28 |
Stompro |
Thanks |
| 16:28 |
kmlussier |
We could probably document that feature a bit better. |
| 16:29 |
kmlussier |
rhamby_: I just realized the downside to more merchandising to raise funds for Evergreen is that it will lower the funds in my own pocket. |
| 16:30 |
kmlussier |
Ooh! And I can pick colors too! |
| 16:30 |
rhamby_ |
kmlussier: vacations at Harry Potter World are overrated, buy merch |
| 16:30 |
kmlussier |
rhamby_: Yes, I will make it up to my kids by giving them a mug that says YAOUS. I'm sure they'll be quite happy with that. |
| 16:31 |
kmlussier |
After I explain to them what YAOUS are |
| 16:32 |
* kmlussier |
tries to remember what she was working on before she got distracted by shiny new mugs |
| 16:32 |
Stompro |
mmorgan, No, this isn't related to that bug. I've just been looking into streamlining our holds so I ran into that bug while looking into it, I thought I had an answer but no dice. |
| 16:33 |
mmorgan |
Gotcha. |
| 16:35 |
* kmlussier |
ponders the idea of getting a t-shirt that says parts++, but then decides that normal people (defined as non-Evergreeners) would find it odd. |
| 16:43 |
mmorgan |
Heh. |
| 16:52 |
* miker |
ponders getting a kmlussier++ shirt, figures everyone will understand :) |
| 16:53 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 16:54 |
bshum |
Go, go, #TeamKathy |
| 16:56 |
kmlussier |
Awwww! Such a nice send-off before I make my commute home. |
| 16:56 |
kmlussier |
Which I should have started a half-hour ago. |
| 16:56 |
kmlussier |
Have a nice night everyone! |
| 16:57 |
mmorgan |
Good Night! |
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