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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Jennifer Pringle] Docs: Screenshots and step by step instructions added to Self Check section - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d83938c> |
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Dyrcona |
Good night! |
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jihpringle |
for Acq Interest Group - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iEWNjR3yhluIA5ViLZAj_QANEmaKlJ5L8JMubtO_mZc/edit#gid=0 |
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hopkinsju |
jihpringle: http://pandoc.org/index.html Have you seen this tool? I haven't tried it, but happened to stumble on it this morning. |
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hopkinsju |
Bmagic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1175293 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1175293 in Evergreen "ACQ: Allocate to Fund drop down menu (in Funding Source) Not Following Precedents Set by Other Fund Menus" [Medium,Confirmed] |
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jihpringle |
hopkinsju: I had not seen it before but it looks interesting |
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bottotr |
dbwells_: is a genius!!! actor.card additional columns solved. The drawAllCards() function in register.js is apparently using the IDL in /openils/var/web/reports ...which I indeed had simply forgotten |
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* tsbere |
wonders what bottotr is adding to actor.card |
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bottotr |
https://github.com/grpl-eg/eg_2_10/commit/3d9c6f1a05f9dba6d2dd44bd135c1d71a7b1f55a |
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* tsbere |
also wonders why /me doesn't remove his /away |
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bottotr |
I like to judge and finger point... This gives me the "who" of card issuers |
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bottotr |
jeff: if you ever want to see those columns in your db, see above |
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jeff |
seen! |
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tsbere |
bottotr: If you are going to the effort of some of this perhaps add a "note" field so that staff can indicate useful things like why a card is inactive? |
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bottotr |
those things rely on staff updating them. These are automagic. We actually added this way back in 2010, I've just never brought it forward for possible inclusion |
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* berickm |
chuckles at a room of librarians ssshhhushing everyone |
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sard |
Hah |
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bottotr |
Ok, so who knows how to style the Web client? Now I need to keep my new columns from wrapping in the modal dialog. |
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bottotr |
could: class="col-md-4" be referring to the columns in the modal dialog, and going from 4 to 6 be the simple answer? |
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Dyrcona |
bottotr: If col-md-6 exists as a style, I say try it. |
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bottotr |
apparently not. no change |
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hopkinsju |
AVG-- |
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pinesol_green |
Showing latest 5 of 18 commits to Evergreen... |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1554714: fix up more drop-down menus - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f64cb46> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1554714: specify resolution to make angular-animate happy - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c70a198> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1554714: more drop-down fixes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=87debaa> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1554714: final $modal => $uibModal - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a07656a> |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1554714: update to latest Collapse attribute - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8c1035b> |
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berickm |
we're now using angular-1.5 in master. As a reminder to anyone w/ a running browser client install (on master), see the notes about rebuilding dependencies: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1554714/comments/15 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1554714 in Evergreen "Migrate Browser Client to Angular 1.5 + Dependencies" [Undecided,Fix committed] |
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Dyrcona |
"And there was much rejoicing." |
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* berickm |
feasts on lambs, and sloths |
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berickm |
and carp! |
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dbwells |
bottotr: cool, glad that ended up being the issue. Tripped me up pretty bad once. Felt about the same as being convinced there are extra spies playing The Resistance. ;) |
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hopkinsju |
Dang! Go team! |
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hopkinsju |
gmcharlt++ |
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* berickm |
eyes the long-deprecated JSON format in the oak forest room |
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berickm |
didn't think it was still possible to get JSON w/ the comment-encoded classes |
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dbwells |
yeah, weird |
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dbwells |
old version? |
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berickm |
guess so |
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hopkinsju |
Dyrcona: http://evergreen-ils.org/~denials/workshop.html |
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Dyrcona |
hopkinsju++ # Yeah. That's it. |
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hopkinsju |
This guy too: https://coffeecode.net/archives/180-Fetching-item-availability-from-Evergreen-using-the-OpenSRF-HTTP-gateway.html |
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remingtron_ |
phasefx++ #for pointing me to the XUL help wiki page |
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gmcharlt |
I'm calling a development confab starting at 8 PM tonight |
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gmcharlt |
meeting level 3 near the registration desk |
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gmcharlt |
among other things, goal is to draft the development update |
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gmcharlt |
also to discuss RM/buildmaster roles |
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* kmlussier |
wants to begin a chant in miker's session. "KILL THE BLOB. KILL THE BLOB" |
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kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ #Dev meeting |
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berickm |
I'll bring the pitchforks |
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kmlussier |
berick++ |
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bshum |
"Why is there always someone who brings eggs and tomatoes to a speech?" |
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tsbere |
bshum: Because none of them are imaginative enough to come up with something better. ;) |
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bshum |
Just some penguin humor |
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Dyrcona |
Kill the BLOB was an OpenBSD slogan over a decade ago. It didn't work. |
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jeff |
for binary firmware blobs? |
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Dyrcona |
Some hardware still requires BLOBs, but at least the BLOBs are moved to a separate firmware location where you download them separately. |
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jeff |
or something else? |
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jeff |
ah, yup. |
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Dyrcona |
Doesn't help if you forget to download the wifi blob for laptop ahead of time. |
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kmlussier |
miker++ #My favorite session of the conference so far! |
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jeff |
created bug 1573734 based on conversation in search talk just now. miker++ kmlussier++ |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1573734 in Evergreen "Link to sibling metarecord bibs in record detail page" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1573734 |
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jeff |
in a similar vein, I'd like to link to "other books in this series" in those cases where we can reasonably rely on that data. |
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jeff |
and then in a perfect world be able to place a hold on a series... |
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jeff |
and one of those "i thought we had a bug on that already", i opened bug 1573738 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1573738 in Evergreen "Distinguish between search timeout and zero result searches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1573738 |
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hopkinsju |
@tell kmlussier can we sit down with Galen after the last session today (Friday) to talk about developing some Evergreen/InnReach integration? |
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pinesol_green |
hopkinsju: Error: I haven't seen kmlussier, I'll let you do the telling. |
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hopkinsju |
@later tell kmlussier can we sit down with Galen after the last session today (Friday) to talk about developing some Evergreen/InnReach integration? |
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pinesol_green |
hopkinsju: The operation succeeded. |
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bshum |
Boo, white screen of nothing on new Xenial VM's webstaff :( |
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jeff |
bshum: have a public url? |
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tsbere |
bshum: Tell someone to turn off blizzard mode. ;) |
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jeff |
bshum: browser console have any relevant-seeming errors? |
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bshum |
jeff: It seems to dislike something with angular 1.5 |
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jeff |
bshum: did you see the notes about what to rebuild? was this a completely fresh checkout and install? |
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bshum |
jeff: Fresh VM, so there's nothing previous there |
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bshum |
jeff: It's probably xenial being weird or something. |
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bshum |
jeff: Just a local VM on my laptop. I didn't bridge it anywhere interesting. |
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jeff |
drat. i was hoping it was just a failure to do the steps in https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1554714/comments/15 |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1554714 in Evergreen "Migrate Browser Client to Angular 1.5 + Dependencies" [Undecided,Fix committed] |
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jeff |
but now that i re-read that, it seems even less likely (plus, you already ruled that out) |
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bshum |
jeff: The test build broke, but I was hoping that when it said it compiled without errors, it wasn't lying |
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bshum |
Guess something was still awry beyond the test |
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bshum |
I have to build a new trusty VM. Going to see if I get any similar issues on a fresh install there. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Yamil Suarez] Docs: clean up formatting & typos in using_the_public_access_catalog.txt - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4089928> |
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bshum |
berick: Hmm, on trusty, the karma:unit task fails too and blows up with an "Aborted due to warnings" and suggests to use --force to continue. |
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bshum |
I'll save these VMs, something seems awry :\ |
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bottotr |
Anyone have pub crawl details? ...other than the 8:30 meet up? |
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bottotr |
er, uh 8:15 |
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hbrennan |
I'm wondering the same |
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hbrennan |
Doubt I'll be back from dinner to make the 8:15 meetup, so I wanted to know the first location |
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bottotr |
I made it back up to the Holiday Inn between showers. Need to grab some dinner before |
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hbrennan |
There's a slot open for Sono (sushi) if you want to join |
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bottotr |
Chilling for a bit, and I think I'll go for cajun |
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hbrennan |
Big Easy? |
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bottotr |
yep |
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hbrennan |
Went for lunch yesterday. Wasn't impressed, but not bad. |
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bottotr |
relatively close, should be able to dodge the showers |
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bottotr |
Looks like we might be in good shape for the pub crawl. |
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bottotr |
Radar looks like it may open up between 8:30 and 10:00, before starting back up |
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hbrennan |
I'm just excited I get to use ALL the things I packed, including my rain jacket |
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jeff |
hah! |
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hbrennan |
Well, if anyone gets word of first pub meetup, please tweet it |
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bott-adrd |
Anyone know what's going on on the street outside the Sheraton? |
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gmcharlt |
time's running away from me and I need to eat, so it will be after 8:30 before I'll arrive for the dev meeting |
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jeff |
gmcharlt: noted. we will assign all duties to you in your absence. |
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jeff |
gmcharlt: in actuality, we will likely await your arrival on the first light of the fifth day |
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jeff |
berick: if you're on and listening, dev meeting starting about now. |
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jeff |
galen's talking about an agenda, starting with RM (no voluntary volunteers yet) and the idea of splitting release cutting from RM duties proper |
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jeff |
release manager would herd cats and be the arbiter of what gets in |
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jeff |
build master cuts releases |
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berick |
thanks jeff |
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jeff |
bshum asks if similar to "release team" days -- kinda' |
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bshum |
jeff++ # IRC note taking |
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jeff |
Dyrcona saying that he thinks it's even better than that, and can open up the roles to other interested parties. |
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jeff |
2-3 buildmasters running intentionally distinct distros |
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jeff |
(an idea of Dyrcona's so far) |
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jeff |
compared to his usual practice of "does it work on Ubuntu 14.04? it's good!" |
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jeff |
potentially start with 1-2 that can cover (primary, backup)... |
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jeff |
"what is the release manager is just the release manager, and the buildmaster becomes the release maintainer?" |
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jeff |
tangent: "what's a bug vs what's a feature" decisions in point releases |
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jeff |
at some point a conversation of "what are the things that push a bugfix over the threshold of bug-to-feature" |
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jeff |
koha comparison: release manager and release maintainer are distinct elections. |
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jeff |
maintainer intended to be training/grooming for future role as release manager. |
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jeff |
also, maintainer's are the only ones with permission to merge to the branch for the release they are maintaining. |
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jeff |
galen now: buildmaster needs to be able to create builds, but doesn't have to be a committer. |
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jeff |
could of course be something that leads to getting a commit bit at a later time. |
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jeff |
would require someone who could be the committer to back the buildmaster |
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jeff |
tangent: translations, point-one releases with translation merges because some places like the czech libs are keeping pretty on top of those. |
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jeff |
more i18n/l10n talk: some chicken/egg, about 1.5 languages other than english actually being maintained |
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jeff |
potential to set threshold of what percentage of translated strings mean we make that language in a build |
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jeff |
straw poll: +1/0/-1 for experiment of release manger + 1 or more buildmasters for next release? |
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berick |
+1 to experiment |
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jeff |
bit of discussion about taking advantage of buildmasters taking load off the RM to enable us to commit to an alpha, beta, rc, etc. |
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jeff |
encourage more testing. |
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jeff |
acknowledgement of the previous pattern of "RM announces timeline, dates arrive and people are 'surprised'" |
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jeff |
some talk of sandboxes for testing alpha/beta/rc/etc |
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jeff |
general round-the-room consensus is +1 to the experiment |
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jeff |
miker has volunteered to be RM, and with reduced reluctance due to there being buildmasters |
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berick |
miker++ |
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jeff |
Jim Keenan has also voiced interest in cat-herding, possibly to co-RM with miker |
| 21:09 |
jeff |
dbwells, Dyrcona, and I have voiced interest in buildmastering, with me being in a mentee role and Dyrcona potentially being in a backup role, dbwells would be mentor/primary. |
| 21:10 |
jeff |
general call for anyone else interested in RM / buildmaster |
| 21:11 |
berick |
count me in as a mentor / resource |
| 21:12 |
jeff |
noted! |
| 21:13 |
phasefx_ |
Anyone gaming tonight or is it all pub crawls? |
| 21:14 |
jeff |
gmcharlt notes desire to wait for decision/vote until 1) not late at night and 2) miker is able to confirm intentions; kmlussier inquires about desirability of an RM statement and schedule before decision |
| 21:14 |
phasefx_ |
oops |
| 21:15 |
jeff |
phasefx_: you're alright :-) |
| 21:15 |
Bmagic |
phasefx: board games are still planned, after dev meeting |
| 21:16 |
phasefx_ |
Where is the mtg currently? |
| 21:16 |
jeff |
some discussion about voting, scope of voting, transparency, etc. |
| 21:16 |
gmcharlt |
Oak ballroom |
| 21:16 |
jeff |
phasefx_: where gaming usually is -- oak big rooms |
| 21:16 |
phasefx_ |
Because two of us are here in the lobby :( |
| 21:17 |
jeff |
gmcharlt to send summary of discussion and general idea / direction to -general and -dev lists. |
| 21:17 |
Bmagic |
+1 |
| 21:18 |
jeff |
general consensus around the table of +1 |
| 21:18 |
jeff |
i'm impressed that gmcharlt responded to the "which room" question without me noticing. |
| 21:18 |
jeff |
i suspect i was distracted by Bmagic typing away :-) |
| 21:19 |
berick |
+1 here too |
| 21:19 |
jeff |
phasefx and miker have arrived. |
| 21:20 |
jeff |
gmcharlt is catching miker up on the discussion so far |
| 21:21 |
jeff |
next agenda item: dev update for tomorrow |
| 21:21 |
jeff |
summary of releases and support, upcoming postgres requirement changes |
| 21:23 |
jeff |
webstaff quasi-beta status for circ |
| 21:23 |
jeff |
bug squashing days |
| 21:25 |
jeff |
bshum notes that the "webstaff update" and "dev update" are two distinct updates on the agenda tomorrow |
| 21:25 |
berick |
yeah, they gave us a /lot/ of time |
| 21:26 |
* jeff |
nods |
| 21:27 |
jeff |
dev update may be a brief mention of webstaff quasi-beta for circ, desire for more testing, then the "web client update" 30 mins may be 15 mins show-and-tell, 15 mins q&a |
| 21:32 |
jeff |
kmlussier points out importance of covering new features in the two releases since last conference |
| 21:33 |
jeff |
Dyrcona and gmcharlt to cover those |
| 21:34 |
jeff |
berick: are you back for tomorrow at all? i forget. |
| 21:35 |
berick |
jeff: yes, I'll be there |
| 21:35 |
jeff |
got it! |
| 21:35 |
jeff |
berick: we'll hand you some bullet points when you walk in -- you've got 60 minutes to cover. |
| 21:35 |
jeff |
(kidding!) |
| 21:36 |
berick |
better practice my clogging routine! |
| 21:37 |
jeff |
berick: gmcharlt is probably going to ask you to show off the angular patron interface for part of the web client update portion of tomorrow morning. |
| 21:38 |
berick |
jeff: no problemo |
| 21:38 |
jeff |
call for any other broad topics to be sure to cover tomorrow |
| 21:39 |
jeff |
sounds like gmcharlt will be throwing together some slides |
| 21:39 |
berick |
gmcharlt++ |
| 21:45 |
berick |
jeff: things wrapping up over there? |
| 21:46 |
phasefx_ |
berick: yeap |
| 21:46 |
phasefx_ |
adjourned |
| 21:46 |
jeff |
yep, very much so. |
| 21:46 |
phasefx_ |
Mike was in tears |
| 21:47 |
phasefx_ |
Something to do with VENDOR NAME REMOVED and source code :) |
| 21:48 |
berick |
alright, have a good night all. seeya tomorrow |
| 21:48 |
phasefx_ |
night |
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pinesol_green |
[opensrf|Galen Charlton] LP#1559121: remove Debian Squeeze support - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=c9174e7> |
| 22:18 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1559121: remove Debian Squeeze support - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9de1db5> |
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