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07:42 csharp @deprecate postgresql-9.1
07:42 pinesol_green csharp: Fire BAD! Reading GOOD!
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08:14 kmlussier Terran++ #Fixing Bugs!
08:24 csharp @praise Terran
08:24 * pinesol_green Shall I compare Terran to a summer's day? Terran is more lovely and more temperate.
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08:36 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1371647: fix thinko with ID re-pinning - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=896461c>
08:42 kmlussier I had a thought for doing something new for this Bug Squashing Day that we might want to do on the days that fall after a beta release.
08:43 kmlussier It might be a good opportunity to get volunteers to walk through some of the test cases on the Evergreen wiki to check for bugs in the beta release. Just to make sure it really does get tested.
08:49 Dyrcona Yep, and/or run the test suite.
08:50 gmcharlt Dyrcona: would you have a moment now to test a patch for 1505286?
08:51 Dyrcona gmcharlt: I would, but I also made my own yesterday. :)
08:52 JBoyer lp 1505286
08:52 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1505286 in Evergreen "set limit on facets retrieved during search" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505286
08:53 Dyrcona gmcharlt kmlussier: BTW, I just installed screen on my development system. I thought you might prefer that over tmux.
08:53 gmcharlt Dyrcona: ah, cool; I'll just run with that, though I'm inclined to add a second update to force cases where the patch applied successfully on 9.2+ to use the older-style syntax
08:54 Dyrcona gmcharlt: That works for me, if you think it is best.
08:54 kmlussier Well, then test suite is already running twice a day, isn't it?
08:55 Dyrcona kmlussier: Yes, I suppose it is.
08:56 * gmcharlt claims 0970
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09:02 pinesol_green [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP 1505286: Port New Functions to PostgreSQL 9.1 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ea8b6f6>
09:02 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1505286: use older syntax for Pg 9.2+ - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=22cf746>
09:12 StomproJ kmlussier, Bmagic I removed my assignment for 1496522 so someone else can grab it.
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09:33 kmlussier @hate scheduling meetings
09:33 pinesol_green kmlussier: But kmlussier already hates scheduling meetings!
09:43 Dyrcona @loves
09:43 pinesol_green Dyrcona loves git; scripted sign off; sed; OpenBSD; gnu/emacs; git tag; and git-quickpick
09:43 Dyrcona @hates
09:43 pinesol_green Dyrcona hates MARC; English orthography; Launchpad; RDA; typos; Launchpad Search; printing; NCIP; Launchpad_some_moar; billing even MOAR!; and billing
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09:44 kmlussier @loves
09:44 pinesol_green kmlussier loves parts; YAOUS; Fridays; clam chowder; coffee; new fanged email thing; quassel; magic eightball; trivia; Evergreeners; BBQ; spell check; mobile catalog; new edit links in the catalog; vim; pizza; grep; spring; summer; fall; clam chowdah; ginger beer; DokuWiki; the random magic spells page; Evergreen, the whole kit and caboodle; bug squashing day; acq; reducing mouse clicks; (1 more message)
09:44 kmlussier @more
09:44 pinesol_green kmlussier: and quickpick
09:45 kmlussier Looks like I love food and Evergreen. That's me in a nutshell.
09:45 rhamby kmlussier: and bernie sanders
09:46 Dyrcona Did you see that Bernie Sanders won in my town by 1 vote?
09:46 kmlussier rhamby: Well, I do try to keep politics out of IRC, but since you've brought it up #feelthebern!
09:47 rhamby Dyrcona: there you go, proof that voting matters.  I vote regularly but being a democrat in SC it feels largely pointless though I do it.
09:47 kmlussier Dyrcona: Yeah? He won by a lot in ours
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09:47 * kmlussier shall not speak of the other person who won in her town
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09:52 * berick lets the git commits wash over him
09:54 * Dyrcona almost drowned yesterday.
09:54 Dyrcona I should have not bothered trying to keep up. :)
09:55 jeff why did I expect a small number of results for this query? select * from actor.card where barcode !~ '^[a-zA-Z0-9 -]+$';
09:55 jeff (46 rows)
09:58 * dbwells really likes [REDACTED] but knows deep down that person can't win, and also can't believe anyone would vote for [REDACTED] because that person is totally crazy.
09:58 dbwells That should please everyone :)
09:59 Dyrcona Ha.
09:59 rhamby dbwells++
09:59 Dyrcona dbwells++
09:59 kmlussier dbwells++
09:59 Dyrcona "Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos."
10:03 JBoyer jeff: is it any better if you stick an "and active is true" at the end? Takes us from 767 to 197. (who knew that _ and . would be so popular when choosing a username/barcode)
10:05 JBoyer Anyone from Mohawk around? I'm trying to figure out why no one here can access docs.evergreen-ils.org.
10:06 kmlussier We don't see rsoulliere around here much anymore. Maybe he'll pop in for today's DIG meeting?
10:07 JBoyer That's what I was afraid of. (I thought he was from there, but couldn't remember anyone else.) I'll keep an eye out.
10:07 JBoyer kmlussier++ # spreading knowledge and herding cats
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10:26 sandbergja If I see a bug on the webby version of the Web client, should I report it on launchpad?
10:27 sandbergja Or is there a better place to report those?
10:27 kmlussier sandbergja: I would report it on Launchpad so it doesn't get lost.
10:28 sandbergja Sounds good.  Thanks kmlussier!
10:28 kmlussier sandbergja: There's also a tag for web client bugs. webstaffclient maybe?
10:29 * kmlussier was within seconds of sending an email to the general list that was intended for her local Evergreen list. Phew!
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11:11 jwoodard is pinesol_green a legit write in for President?
11:12 gmcharlt jwoodard: I wouldn't trust it, I believe it's a member of the Skynet Party
11:12 jwoodard pinesol_green: is this true?
11:12 pinesol_green Factoid 'is this true?' not found
11:12 pinesol_green jwoodard: Sorry, that command is only available to Evergreen Premium™ Subscribers. Please upgrade your subscription ASAP!
11:14 jwoodard Already trying to get a donation out of me. That is a qualifier for President.
11:14 berick :)
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11:19 JBoyer Hmm. How many hours to wait before assume a forced fsck has totally locked up the machine. :/
11:19 bshum JBoyer: Hours?  :P
11:19 JBoyer The math would be very different if leaving the parking garage didn't mean almost certainly being unable to return to it.
11:20 JBoyer bshum: I'm assuming multiple TB volumes are slow no matter what.
11:20 JBoyer But I'm probably going to run out after lunch and kick it to see what happens. :(
11:24 JBoyer Of course, the best part is that these storage controllers are so touchy that just the act of checking the whole volume probably caused it to fall over completely. Super job.
11:26 jeff hardware--
11:27 kmlussier Wow! I was just in a meeting yesterday saying that I didn't think MARC stream importer support authority imports, and then I read the 2.10 release notes and see that it's coming. Awesome!
11:28 kmlussier @love developers who bring us the features we need just when we need them
11:28 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.  kmlussier loves developers who bring us the features we need just when we need them.
11:30 * kmlussier now feels embarassed that she didn't realize this feature was coming since she added a needsreleasenotes tag to the bug at one time.
11:33 berick kmlussier: yes, you should feel super embarassed for contributing your time and energy.
11:34 dbs kmlussier++
11:34 kmlussier berick: heh. I'm just saying I'm usually pretty good about remembering things I comment on.
11:38 berick i hear ya
11:42 esmedGAC I am trying to install evergreen and when I get to step 4 on the main install flow, I get errors. all-recursive error 1 and it cannot find -ldbdpgsql. I am on Debian Jessie 8.3
11:44 berick hey gmcharlt, was looking over the release notes.  looks like one of my release notes commits for password change didn't get merged -- lost in the branch shuffling, i guess.  Here's a commit to add it to your 2.10 release notes work:  http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1aea2​ed1c8b95aad965577d6743d0226a8f77304
11:47 gmcharlt berick: got it, thanks
11:50 berick gmcharlt++
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13:16 kmlussier Looks like I merged the wrong branch for the kill-the-turtle feature, which resulted in the release notes not getting pushed.
13:17 kmlussier gmcharlt: What's your preference? Should I edit the release notes directly or do you want me to push my branch with the release notes to working so that you can add them?
13:18 kmlussier Oh, speaking of the kill-the-turtle branch, cmorgan at NOBLE, who created the new images, also has vector versions of the images. Would it be useful to merge those to master so they can be available to others?
13:19 kmlussier I know we did so when she created the toolbar icons.
13:20 jeff kmlussier: +1
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13:25 Dyrcona +1
13:27 kmlussier OK, I'll let her know. Thanks!
13:41 csharp @weather 30345
13:41 pinesol_green csharp: Atlanta, GA :: Overcast :: 46F/8C | Wind Chill: 40F/5C | Thursday: Rain. High 51F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall around a half an inch. Thursday Night: Showers early, then cloudy overnight. Low around 40F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90%.
13:42 csharp rain, hell - it's sleeting
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13:49 Dyrcona @weather 01845
13:49 pinesol_green Dyrcona: North Andover, MA :: Clear :: 29F/-2C | Wind Chill: 18F/-8C | Thursday: Sunny. High near 30F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to cloudy skies late. Low near 20F. Winds light and variable.
13:53 csharp @band
13:53 pinesol_green csharp: Evergreen Command Center http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1204​/EndeavourFlightDeck_cooper_1050.jpg
13:55 yboston heads up, the DIG monthly meeting will be starting at 2 PM EST
14:00 yboston #startmeeting DIG Monthly Meeting Evergreen Documentation Interest Group (DIG) Monthly Meeting.
14:00 pinesol_green Meeting started Thu Mar  3 14:00:20 2016 US/Eastern.  The chair is yboston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:00 pinesol_green Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:00 pinesol_green The meeting name has been set to 'dig_monthly_meeting_evergreen_documentati​on_interest_group__dig__monthly_meeting_'
14:00 yboston The agenda can be found here http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=​evergreen-docs:dig_meeting_20160303-agenda
14:00 yboston #topic Introductions
14:00 yboston Please feel free to start introducing yourselves...
14:00 yboston #info yboston is Yamil Suarez @ Berklee College of Music - DIG meeting facilitator
14:01 jihpringle #info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka)
14:01 rsoulliere #info rsoulliere is Robert Soulliere, Mohawk College
14:01 Christineb #info Christineb is Christine Burns, BC Libraries Cooperative / Sitka
14:01 remingtron #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College)
14:02 sandbergja #info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College
14:03 yboston I think we can begin
14:04 yboston rsoulliere: did you want to report anything at this point? It is OK if you don't have anything to share?
14:04 remingtron yboston: just missed him
14:05 remingtron must have left by accident
14:05 yboston darn, will double back
14:05 yboston #topic last meeting's action items
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14:05 yboston #info jihpringle will research the state of missing RDA content
14:05 kmlussier #info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC
14:05 yboston shoudl I delay?
14:06 yboston shoudl I delay the action item for next meeting?
14:06 jihpringle yes, it's on my list of things to do but unfortunately things keep getting added above it
14:06 yboston no problem
14:06 yboston #action jihpringle will research the state of missing RDA content
14:06 yboston same for me...
14:06 yboston #action yboston will move the undocumented content of the 2.8 new feature “TPAC Discoverability Enhancements” to its own section in the docs
14:07 yboston #info kmlussier will document the general workflow for being DIG release coordinator
14:07 kmlussier defer
14:07 kmlussier again
14:07 yboston :)
14:07 yboston #action kmlussier will document the general workflow for being DIG release coordinator
14:07 Stompro #info Stompro is Josh Stompro, Lake Agassiz Regional Library
14:07 kmlussier In the meantime, I continue to fulfill my duties as Release Coordinator, though our RM seems to be doing a great job of taking care of the 2.10 release notes.
14:08 yboston gmcharlt++
14:08 sandbergja Quick question: where are the current 2.10 release notes?
14:08 yboston #info alynn26 will write to the DIG list to start discussion on DIG priorities before the next release in March
14:08 sandbergja Just out of curiosity
14:08 sandbergja also gmcharlt++
14:08 yboston let me  look for the git link
14:08 gmcharlt may I jump in and ask I quick question about the release notes?
14:08 kmlussier #link http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.g​it;a=blob;f=docs/RELEASE_NOTES_2_10.adoc;h=​b7dd8e0e1646c4d90160ee007eea7cfad26a72df;hb​=763c4e7a716154c7ea2ce24cf85f6cd5ad70bcee
14:08 pinesol_green kmlussier: [evergreen|Galen Charlton] first draft of release notes for 2.10 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=763c4e7>
14:09 sandbergja kmlussier++
14:09 yboston go ahead gmcharlt
14:09 gmcharlt to the extent that anybody in DIG wants to work on the release notes, are y'all fine just submitting patches, or would setting up a collaboratively-editable doc be more helpful?
14:10 kmlussier I'm fine with submitting patches
14:10 gmcharlt I'm thinking something like a gist, to be specific
14:10 yboston me too
14:10 yboston and those with git priveleges are used to submitting patches for others
14:10 gmcharlt OK, sounds good, thanks for letting me interrupt your meeting!
14:10 yboston our pleasure
14:11 yboston gmcharlt: while you are here
14:11 yboston gmcharlt: do you know if webby has been updated to 2.10 yet?
14:11 yboston gmcharlt: I assume no since the branch was just created recently, but we will need it to write docs
14:12 kmlussier yboston: Are you asking about webby or the ESI demo server?
14:12 gmcharlt yboston: webby's being used for other bugfixes; we'll update the demo server for doc-writing purposes
14:12 yboston my notes say webby, but maybe my notes are wronh
14:12 yboston wrong
14:13 yboston can someoen post the url of the demo server for me to add to the minutes?
14:13 yboston gmcharlt: thanks
14:13 kmlussier gmcharlt: When do you think that update will happen? It might also prove to be useful for Bug Squashing Day tomorrow. (a bit offtopic)
14:14 gmcharlt yboston: http://demo.evergreencatalog.com/
14:14 gmcharlt kmlussier: yes tomorrow, but not first thing
14:14 kmlussier gmcharlt: OK, thanks!
14:15 yboston gmcharlt: thanks
14:15 yboston gmcharlt++
14:15 yboston OK, let me try to get us back on track
14:15 yboston #info alynn26 will write to the DIG list to start discussion on DIG priorities before the next release in March
14:15 yboston I will defer this since she is not here(?)
14:16 yboston #action alynn26 will write to the DIG list to start discussion on DIG priorities before the next release in March
14:16 yboston #info jihpringle will create the 2.10 Docs Needs page
14:16 jihpringle http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.10_needs
14:16 jihpringle the page is there, but the needs haven't been filled in yet
14:16 yboston jihpringle++
14:16 jihpringle I've linked the 2.10 release notes to the page and will start filling in based on them
14:17 yboston jihpringle: which needs are missing?
14:17 jihpringle all of them, I just have category headings because I hadn't seen release notes for 2.10 until now
14:17 yboston just curious
14:17 yboston excellent
14:17 yboston thanks!
14:17 jihpringle np
14:17 yboston I need to put a lnk on the main DIG wiki page
14:18 yboston #link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.10_needs
14:18 yboston any other comments or questions on this topic?
14:19 yboston I just updated the DIG wiki page to add a link
14:19 yboston moving on
14:19 yboston #info yboston will check in with 2.10 release manager (gmcharlt ) about havign Webby ready for us to use and confirmation of what is produciton ready in the web client
14:19 yboston done
14:19 yboston #link http://demo.evergreencatalog.com/
14:19 yboston shoudl I move on fromt his topic?
14:20 yboston moving on
14:20 yboston last action item….
14:20 yboston #info sandbergja wil send out a reminder about the re-org meeting to the main list and DIG list
14:20 yboston done
14:20 kmlussier sandbergja knows how to complete action items. :)
14:21 yboston should we talk a bit about the re-org or just leave it all to MOnday?
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14:21 sandbergja I'm fine either way
14:21 yboston BTW, if there is time I would liek to start lanning for writing 2.10 new feature docs at some point today
14:22 kmlussier Yes, there's only a couple of weeks until the full release is due. We should probably do that soon.
14:22 yboston off the top of my head the things that will need to get done are....
14:22 yboston 1) fisnishing the 2.10 needs wiki page
14:22 yboston 2) schedule a time to write the new docs
14:23 kmlussier Did somebody volunteer for1) at the last meeting.
14:23 kmlussier ?
14:23 jihpringle I'm planning on doing 1 now that I have release notes
14:23 yboston jihpringle++
14:24 sandbergja jihpringle++
14:24 kmlussier jihpringle++
14:24 yboston is there a volunteer to create a doodle poll to find a time to write the 2.10 new feature docs?
14:25 jihpringle I can create the doodle poll
14:25 yboston jihpringle++
14:25 yboston jihpringle: shoudl I bother with an action item for finsishing the 2.10 needs? you call?
14:25 jihpringle sure, then it's listed so I don't forget
14:26 yboston #action jihpringle wil create a doodle poll to plan the 2.10 new feature doc hackfest
14:26 yboston #action jihpringle will finish the 2.10 doc needs wiki page
14:26 yboston jihpringle++
14:26 jihpringle anyone know when 2.10.0 is expected?
14:27 jihpringle to give a window for when we want the 2.10 docs done by
14:27 kmlussier March 17
14:28 kmlussier St. Patrick's Day
14:29 yboston excellent
14:29 jihpringle k, so I'll ask that people complete the poll by the end of day Friday (March 4th)
14:29 yboston any other comments, questions, or concerns?
14:31 jihpringle #link http://doodle.com/poll/vxykvey7wd6rnqz6
14:31 yboston damm, that was quick
14:31 jihpringle :)
14:31 yboston I mean, darn
14:32 sandbergja nice!
14:32 yboston jihpringle: woudl you like me to write the email to the list using your poll?
14:33 jihpringle thanks, but I'm almost finished it
14:33 sandbergja jihpringle++
14:33 yboston OK, I did nto specify that an email should be sent in the action item
14:34 yboston thank you for reading my mind. please teach my family and friends how to do that
14:34 jihpringle you're welcome :)
14:34 yboston another topic we could talk is about web client docs, and/or we can wrap up early
14:35 yboston also, kmlussier feel free to plug the bug squashing day
14:35 kmlussier yboston: I can read your mind. For example, right now you're thinking you want to bake a batch of cookies for all the DIGgers
14:35 sandbergja If anybody wanted to provide feedback/discussion on my agenda for next Monday's reorg meeting, I'd appreciate it!
14:35 sandbergja Maybe not as much as I'd appreciate cookies, but...
14:36 yboston I have never baked cookies in my life
14:36 kmlussier Yes, let's talk about the reorg day. I have plenty of chances to plug bug squashing.
14:36 kmlussier yboston: OK, then, flan
14:36 sandbergja never too late to learn!
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14:36 sandbergja #link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=e​vergreen-docs:reorg_2014:agenda_2016-03-07
14:36 yboston but people kill for my cheese flan. making one tongiht for a friend's birthday
14:36 yboston and I owe kathy one
14:36 kmlussier yboston: Yes, I was just thinking that, but I didn't want to be pushy. ;)
14:37 yboston I am looking for the action tiems for the re-org project
14:37 yboston to see if I owe anything
14:38 yboston and for suggesting a topic of discussion now
14:38 yboston if anyone is curious here is the link to the last re-org meeting minutes...
14:38 yboston #link http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2016/evergreen.2016-02-10-14.00.html
14:39 JBoyer rsoulliere: If you have a minute after the meeting could you ping me? I've got a Q about the docs site.
14:39 yboston I guess I can set an action items to request memebrs to give feedback
14:40 sandbergja well, the meeting is Monday, so no worries about an action item
14:40 yboston #action everyone please submit feedback to doc re-org agenda page http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=e​vergreen-docs:reorg_2014:agenda_2016-03-07
14:40 yboston oops
14:41 yboston anything else? should we wrap up early
14:41 yboston or start something new?
14:41 sandbergja no worries!  More feedback is always better
14:41 yboston ok folks I think we can wrap up
14:42 kmlussier sandbergja++ #Taking the lead on the reorg project
14:42 yboston sandbergja++
14:42 jihpringle sandbergja++
14:43 yboston OK, next meeting will be April 7th
14:43 yboston #endmeeting
14:43 pinesol_green Meeting ended Thu Mar  3 14:43:06 2016 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:43 pinesol_green Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2016/evergreen.2016-03-03-14.00.html
14:43 pinesol_green Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2016/evergreen.2016-03-03-14.00.txt
14:43 pinesol_green Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2016/evergreen.2016-03-03-14.00.log.html
14:43 sandbergja yboston++
14:43 sandbergja kmlussier++
14:43 sandbergja jihpringle++
14:43 kmlussier yboston++
14:43 kmlussier yboston: Before you leave...
14:43 yboston yes
14:44 kmlussier We had talked about possibly doing some intro to IRC times for people who will be participating in the search discussions, since some may not be as familiar with using IRC.
14:44 kmlussier Are you still interested in doing that?
14:44 yboston yes
14:45 kmlussier Unfortunately, I was late in setting a date, and the calendar is starting to look busy, so I don't know the best time to fit them in.
14:45 yboston what is the date of the search talk?
14:45 yboston and time?
14:45 kmlussier The first discussion is Tuesday morning, but there will be a few more over the next two weeks.
14:46 kmlussier yboston: These are the four discussion times
14:47 kmlussier Oops, I forgot the link
14:47 kmlussier http://doodle.com/poll/62g2nmkszddx4iee
14:47 yboston we can set up a practice tiem right before the first one, like at 9:30 or 9:45 AM?
14:48 yboston I can try havign practice sessiosn before each meeting, but let me se all meetings in my calendar
14:49 kmlussier yboston: Sure, that sounds good. And maybe do one more for people who can't make that first one and are participating later in the week?
14:49 kmlussier Or a practice session before each discussion might work if you have the time available.
14:49 yboston it might be harder for two weeks for now, because I may have an EG academics meeting right before at least one of the session two weeks from now
14:50 yboston I forgot who was in charge of the academics poll, it could be me :)
14:50 kmlussier yboston: Is that on the calendar?
14:50 yboston now, we just have a poll
14:51 yboston jihpringle: got a second? is there a closing date for the March academics meeting poll?
14:53 jihpringle yboston: I think I forgot to specify a closing date and I can't find the original email
14:53 yboston I usually forget to specify a closing date too
14:54 jihpringle based on the poll the clear winner is Tuesday, March 15th
14:54 yboston if you can, can you send another reminder next week so we can try to finailze a date
14:54 yboston or just pick that date. though soem folks scehdules could have changed since the filled it out?
14:54 yboston your call
14:55 kmlussier jihpringle: What time on the 15th?
14:55 yboston he/she who makes the poll in my opinion gets some priveleges
14:55 jihpringle :)
14:55 jihpringle sure, I'll send a reminder and ask people to fill it in by the 8th
14:56 yboston kmlussier: so we shoot for some short sessions beofre each meeting? or juts soem of the meetings?
14:58 kmlussier yboston: Before each session sounds good to me. That way, if they're uncomfortable with IRC, they can come a little early and are probably more likely to make it than if we pick an whole other date.
14:58 jihpringle kmlussier: 11am PT/2pm ET
14:59 yboston kmlussier: so aare all those meeting dates confirmed yet? or should I wait for the poll to close?
14:59 kmlussier yboston: But, if the academic meeting is held Tuesday, we may have to skip that IRC intro session. Let's just commit to the other three for now
14:59 kmlussier yboston: All of those dates are confirmed. I just have the Doodle out now so that we don't have too many or too few people at a particular discussion.
15:00 yboston OK, I put it in my calendar, can you add it tot he community calendar?
15:00 yboston I am off to ameeting
15:01 kmlussier yboston: Will do. Thanks!
15:01 kmlussier yboston++
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16:15 kmlussier gmcharlt: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working​/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/​user/kmlussier/lp1229757-release-notes
16:16 gmcharlt "Breaking News: Evergreen Project Deprecates Turtles!!!"
16:16 gmcharlt kmlussier: thanks!
16:25 mmorgan Free the turtles! They have better things to do ;-)
16:26 berick all well and good until you remember it's turtles all the way down
16:43 * gsams gasps.
16:43 gsams I never thought I'd see the day.  The day the turtles died.
16:45 bshum @quote add <gmcharlt> "Breaking News: Evergreen Project Deprecates Turtles!!!"
16:45 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.  Quote #141 added.
16:48 * kmlussier updates the Evergreen Contributors wiki page to add mdriscoll.
16:49 gmcharlt beta package is available at https://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/
16:50 kmlussier gmcharlt++
16:50 bshum gmcharlt++
16:50 kmlussier gmcharlt: I think 2.7 is out of security release. Would you like me to remove it?
16:50 gmcharlt kmlussier: that would be great, thanks!
16:51 mmorgan gmcharlt++
16:51 kmlussier Bmagic++ # Perseverance in setting up Sandboxes today!
16:52 Dyrcona gmcharlt++
17:02 jwoodard a meeting on the 15th? Beware the Ides of March!
17:04 csharp oh crap - I missed out on the conf hotel :-(
17:04 * csharp was going to register for it tomorrow
17:07 kmlussier csharp: I think a lot of people are in the same boat as you.
17:07 kmlussier Luckily, I'm sharing a room with somebody who is a good planner and booked way back when the rooms first become available.
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17:09 jeffdavis timezones--
17:11 jeffdavis Looking at how the dob offset in db upgrade 0945 will affect us, I find that 5% of our users have a dob where adding 3 hours will push the date component of the dob to the next day
17:13 kmlussier :(
17:13 berick jeffdavis: any chance the timezone on those users is different than your current timezone?
17:13 berick the DoB's for those users, i mean
17:14 jeffdavis timezone is -07 or -08 for all those DOBs
17:16 jeffdavis hm, but almost all the remaining 95% of users appear to have no timezone associated with their dob
17:17 berick to be clear, the point of the +3 hours *is* to push the date component to the next day in cases where the daylight savings make their DoB appear to be a day behind (typically by one hour).
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17:35 jeffdavis I see we have 3450 patrons born prior to 1900.
17:39 gmcharlt The secret to long life? Get a library card.
17:40 jeffdavis :)
17:45 jeffdavis berick: thanks for that clarification. If I understand correctly, it is probably reasonable to say that if the dob appeared to change after the upgrade, the way it looks now is more likely to be the correct date.
17:46 jeffdavis Anyway, like I was saying:
17:46 jeffdavis timezones--
17:46 jeffdavis :P
17:47 dbs jeffdavis: you just changed your timezone from -08 to -09 with that decrement
17:47 berick heh
17:48 berick jeffdavis: that's right.  if you see a date w/ -08 and hour 23:00:00, then in the current -07 time zone, the date should be pushed ahead a day (before lopping of the time / timezone).  see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/838525/comments/12
17:48 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 838525 in Evergreen "Timestamp on dob can make date appear off by a day" [Medium,Fix committed]
17:48 jeffdavis dbs: I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at that
17:49 jeffdavis berick: cool, thank you
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18:36 bshum Well, we're making some progress
18:36 bshum http://testing.evergreen-i​ls.org/~live/test.24.html
18:36 bshum Failed test because opt-in wasn't enabled in opensrf.xml
18:36 bshum But the DB build works now
18:43 kmlussier OK, all the Sandbox details have been emailed to our Bug Squashers. I'm calling it a night. G'night #evergreen!
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20:41 mrpeters @quote 142
20:41 pinesol_green mrpeters: Try restarting apache.
20:42 mrpeters @quote add (8:35:47 PM) csharp: do you want to be a sys admin or a fireman?
20:42 pinesol_green mrpeters: The operation succeeded.  Quote #143 added.
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