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09:32 Dyrcona Well, that's nice, and I mean it.
09:33 Dyrcona I don't have to add any of my new files to the Makefile.ams. They will just get installed because of how we're already installing things.
09:37 dbs a small miracle :)
09:38 Dyrcona :)
09:38 Dyrcona It's just perlmods and templates.
09:42 jeff fun SIP enhancement: add rules so that certain copies (stat cat, shelving location, circ mod?) do not have item-level information returned to SIP clients with a certain flag set. Use for "blind date with a book" displays.
09:45 jeff amusing thought: should copies that are being used in such displays be set to non-opac-visible, to prevent a determined patron from unwrapping a table full of books? :-)
09:46 jeff i wonder if we've had one come up on a pull list yet, and what the result was.
09:49 dbs Dyrcona: might want to touch Open-ILS/src/perlmods/MANIFEST ?
09:50 Dyrcona dbs: I checked and I don't think I have to.
09:50 Dyrcona I'll make sure though.
09:51 Dyrcona It's only on my development server for now, anyway.
09:52 tsbere jeff: I toyed with a SIP proxy to strip out information in some cases, aiming more for patron level granted...
09:53 tsbere jeff: Catch with items being that things like the patron's opac page and such would also reveal the info, so I don't know how far you actually want to go with things. ;)
10:02 jeff tsbere: yeah, SIP proxy for vendor auth style (ab)uses of SIP is something that I've discussed a number of times.
10:02 jeff tsbere: just far enough to not "spoil the surprise" at checkout. :-)
10:13 jeff "don't tell the following (self checkout) SIP clients about the title/author of these books"
10:14 jeff then it wouldn't show on screen or receipts.
10:31 tsbere jeff: A quick proxy could check for an exported stat cat field (which you can hard code to a specific value regardless of real value) and hopefully sanitize on the way through
10:35 Bmagic mmorgan: bug 1532236
10:35 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1532236 in Evergreen "Evergreen should allow for HTML formatted action trigger emails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532236
10:36 mmorgan Bmagic++
10:39 Dyrcona Hmmm... Maybe 1.4 million barcodes are a bit much for a test.
10:40 mmorgan Dyrcona: That would be a thorough test ;-)
10:42 Dyrcona Yeah. I'm not sure it would upload though, the file is 21.1 MB according to Nautilus File Manager.
10:43 Dyrcona I recall reading somewhere that the limit is 10 MB unless you change it, but that could have been inaccurate information.
10:45 csharp Bmagic: regarding bug 1532236, we've been wanting HTML email too - not sure if it needs a new A/T reactor or if we can encode some logic into the current SendEmail.pm that would do what we're after
10:45 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1532236 in Evergreen "Evergreen should allow for HTML formatted action trigger emails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532236
10:46 Dyrcona csharp: Bmagic, mmorgan and others were talking about it yesterday in channel.
10:46 tsbere csharp: I gave Bmagic a thought on how to adjust the SendEmail reactor to allow for the headers to come from the template instead of hardcoding them, dunno if he has tried them
10:46 Dyrcona I thought consensus was modifying SendEmail.pm, but I was paying much attention.
10:46 csharp Dyrcona: oh cool - I'll look back at it
10:46 Bmagic csharp: I am about to commit the code and post to the bug
10:46 csharp Bmagic: rock on!
10:50 Bmagic tsbere++
10:54 Bmagic tsbere: That karma was for that code on that bug http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wor​king/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=25529​9306b89b8b962372f9a4fe83cb067c92a58
10:55 tsbere Bmagic: I figured as much, given that I looked and my suggestion seemed to be what you implemented ;)
10:55 Bmagic just being clear
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11:31 Stompro Bmagic++ tsbere++ I've been wondering how to create HTML notices for a while.  I think cover art included in notices would be appreciated by many customers.
11:31 Bmagic excellent - some testing would great
11:38 tsbere Stompro: I disagree on the cover art bit, but as I mentioned yesterday I tend to disable HTML/Rich Text email viewing in general.
11:43 Stompro tsbere, the multipart should take care of text email purist such as yourself.  The docs to can stress the importance of including the text only version.
11:56 tsbere Stompro: I just don't like the idea in general. Then again, I dislike the fact email supports HTML in the first place. Too many things can be "hidden", like link targets. >_>
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12:03 Stompro tsbere, So are you protecting your patrons by sending them the only non html transactional messages they have in their inbox?  I think it just makes us look like we are behind the times.
12:05 tsbere Stompro: The number of *badly formatted* HTML transactional messages I get is insane, so properly formatted text is preferred in those cases.
12:05 tsbere And printing a lot of the HTML emails I see is horrible as well (though I suppose you could argue you are discouraging the use of the paper you would print them on...)
12:15 jeff anyone here using Syndetic Solutions for cover images notice a lot of partial jacket images in the past few days?
12:20 Bmagic jeff: we use Syndetics. We haven't had any reports along those lines recently
12:22 tsbere Even if we were using syndetics we only have maybe 4 people that I know of that would let us know. <_<
12:23 * tsbere is amazed at how many "wrong" jacket image complaints come up when the same book, same isbn, just happens to have more than one cover across print runs
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14:51 Dyrcona Hmm... Trying to put [some text] in a tt2 string is tricky.
15:01 Bmagic agreed
15:12 Dyrcona I gave up on the [ & ].
15:13 Dyrcona Guess I could have had them outside of the string, but that was "ugly."
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15:48 rjackson_isl bshum just wanted to say thanks for all the help you have given me over the years. You show a lot of extra patience with "special" folks like myself! Hope your new endeavors are just as fruitful.
16:02 bshum rjackson_isl: Aw, thanks, appreciate it. :)
16:03 rjackson_isl I am sure with your work ethics you will be a rock star wherever you go!
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16:58 Bmagic csharp: Do you run z39.50 on your servers?
16:59 Bmagic (im asking you because the setup docs are in PINES context)
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19:35 csharp Bmagic: nope ;-)
19:35 csharp perhaps miker and crew did at the beginning, but we haven't run z39 servers since I took the lead
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