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IRC log for #evergreen, 2015-12-07

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08:37 kmlussier @coffee [someone]
08:37 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Kenya, and sends it sliding down the bar to mceraso
08:37 kmlussier @tea [someone]
08:37 * pinesol_green brews and pours a pot of Top Leaf™ Green Tea, and sends it sliding down the bar to eady (http://ratetea.com/tea/mellow-monk/top-leaf/1186/)
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08:54 csharp @praise [coffee]
08:54 * pinesol_green Shall I compare brews and pours a cup of Huila El Palacio Colombia, and sends it sliding down the bar to csharp to a summer's day? brews and pours a cup of Huila El Palacio Colombia, and sends it sliding down the bar to csharp is more lovely and more temperate.
08:56 mmorgan Heh.
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09:03 * eady sips green tea.
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09:56 Dyrcona Ugh. Pg array literals with strings....
10:17 jeff ...these are a few of my favorite things?
10:17 csharp jeff++
10:18 jeff or perhaps more accurately, and with similar meter: "...these are not some of my favorite things"?
10:18 csharp @quote add < Dyrcona> Ugh. Pg array literals with strings....  < jeff> ...these are a few of my favorite things?
10:18 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.  Quote #132 added.
10:19 Dyrcona jeff++
10:19 Dyrcona I gave up and used ids. Made the query a lot simpler, too. :)
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11:10 csharp does EG SIP2 support hold placements from self-checkout machines? (3M, if that matters)
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11:12 Dyrcona csharp: Looks like it can cancel holds but not place them.
11:15 mmorgan I have run an action trigger intended to send email with the ProcessTemplate reactor for testing purposes, and the template output looks just as intended.
11:16 mmorgan Is there any way to take the template output data that's already been generated and send it as email? Or is it best just to run the trigger again with the SendEmail reactor?
11:17 csharp Dyrcona: thanks
11:17 Dyrcona charp: de nada.
11:18 Dyrcona oof.
11:18 Dyrcona missed an s there.
11:30 csharp @who likes to just charp on about everything?
11:30 pinesol_green rashma likes to just charp on about everything.
11:30 Dyrcona heh
11:31 Dyrcona I imagine "charp" is what a bird does when it is complaining.
11:33 miker mmorgan: you're asking about my desire to build "chained" or "stacked" reactors... today, a second event is what you need.
11:33 Dyrcona chain reactions.
11:39 mmorgan miker: Ok, thanks. Your desire makes sense to me, it would be useful to have reactor modules to use independently. For now I'll rerun it and add more rows to the db.
11:39 mmorgan miker++
12:51 kmlussier @quote random
12:51 pinesol_green kmlussier: Quote #79: "<bshum> We don't do that of course, but it sounds the most consistent in my head right now." (added by jeff at 11:29 AM, February 27, 2014)
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13:18 bshum Yeah that sounds about right.
13:19 Dyrcona :)
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13:51 jeff hrm. i suspect i still have to worry about encoding when using IO::Uncompress::Bunzip2, but i'm not seeing... how I can express that concern to Perl.
13:51 jeff I suppose the simpler option would be to not use Perl to handle the bz2 bits.
13:57 Dyrcona jeff: Just from perusing the documentation, it looks like you'll have to manage that manually.
13:57 Dyrcona Doesn't look Bunzip2 has a way to specify the encoding the may more IO::Handle subclasses do.
13:59 Dyrcona I take that back. IO::Zlib apparently doesn't either. :)
14:00 * Dyrcona doesn't usually worry about it.
14:01 jeff it actually looks like IO::Uncompress::Base had (perhaps very simple) support for encoding, but it's currently commented out.
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14:04 jeff i think i'll just open a pipe. :-)
14:05 miker jeff: it's the UNIX Way (tm)
14:07 Dyrcona jeff++ miker++
14:09 jeff a related issue: while Python has nice modules that open a compressed file and give you a file-like object, the Python mailbox module cannot accept file-like objects for mbox files, and can only accept a path.
14:13 Dyrcona jeff: No context manager version of open on the mailbox module?
14:13 jeff DEVICE=DRVSPACE.SYS /NOHMA
14:14 jeff time to give up on individual file compression. too difficult. full-disk compression is the way to do!
14:14 Dyrcona jeff: Encryption will give you some compression, though not much. :)
14:15 * jeff goes shopping for a STAC Coprocessor Card
14:16 jeff ...and of COURSE there's a lot of 26 on ebay.
14:17 Dyrcona Always.
14:17 Dyrcona As soon as that one sells, another lot of 25 will take its place. :)
14:17 Dyrcona A few weeks ago it was a lot of 50. ;)
14:21 jeff Dyrcona: nope. "patches welcome": https://bugs.python.org/issue2209
14:22 Dyrcona heh
14:32 jeff Dyrcona (and anyone else following along at home): PerlIO::gzip seems to work well -- easy as open my $fh, "<:gzip:encoding(utf8)", $file or die "$file: $!";
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14:34 jeff there is also a PerlIO::via::gzip and PerlIO::via::Bzip2, which I've not tried.
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14:44 Dyrcona @eightball Is there a Perl module for that?
14:44 pinesol_green Dyrcona: _I_ don't know.
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14:51 jboyer-isl @eightball Are there many, many perl modules for that?
14:51 pinesol_green jboyer-isl: The answer is a resounding no.
14:52 jboyer-isl I find that unlikely.
14:55 Dyrcona @eightball TIMTOWTDI!
14:55 pinesol_green Dyrcona: About as likely as pigs flying.
14:55 Dyrcona Of course, pinesol_green is written in Python!
14:55 Dyrcona Definitely not a Perl fan.
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16:00 tsbere Upside to our phones being dead: I don't have to answer the phone. ;)
16:25 Dyrcona @coffe kmlussier
16:25 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Mr. Spock: Something fascinating just happened.
16:25 kmlussier heh
16:25 Dyrcona helps to spell correctly, dunnit?
16:25 Dyrcona Depresso: That feeling you get when you run out of coffee.
16:25 kmlussier Dyrcona: Thanks anyway! It's just so happens that I'm in need of caffeine
16:26 * Dyrcona waits a few minutes to send the email that the phones are working again.
16:28 mmorgan @quote get 124
16:28 pinesol_green mmorgan: Quote #124: "<kmlussier> True fact. NOBLE never runs out of coffee." (added by gmcharlt at 02:44 PM, October 15, 2015)
16:37 Dyrcona @quote random
16:37 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Quote #69: "jeff: All the pain of RHEL, with none of the support." (added by Dyrcona at 08:57 AM, October 30, 2013)
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16:54 Dyrcona Oh sure. It's freezing in my office (hyperbole) and the heat comes on 5 minutes before I'm going to leave.
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