Evergreen ILS Website

IRC log for #evergreen, 2015-10-23

| Channels | #evergreen index | Today | | Search | Google Search | Plain-Text | summary | Join Webchat

All times shown according to the server's local time.

Time Nick Message
03:40 Bmagic joined #evergreen
06:00 pinesol_green` joined #evergreen
06:01 csharp_ joined #evergreen
06:01 egbuilder_ joined #evergreen
06:02 pmurray_` joined #evergreen
06:02 rangi` joined #evergreen
06:02 pastebot0 joined #evergreen
06:03 eeevil joined #evergreen
06:03 dbs_ joined #evergreen
06:04 jeffdavi1 joined #evergreen
06:09 dMiller_ joined #evergreen
07:11 sarabee joined #evergreen
07:53 collum joined #evergreen
07:55 jboyer-isl joined #evergreen
08:02 ericar joined #evergreen
08:15 rlefaive joined #evergreen
08:31 sbrylander joined #evergreen
08:46 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen. It's Friday! :D
08:49 Dyrcona joined #evergreen
08:49 maryj joined #evergreen
08:51 mrpeters joined #evergreen
08:52 Stompro Good morning, our circ freeze starts this morning.  I've been disabing access to Millennium and loving it!
08:52 mmorgan joined #evergreen
08:52 Stompro Go live on Monday!
08:52 kmlussier Stompro++ #Best wishes for your go live!
08:53 kmlussier @coffee Stompro
08:53 * pinesol_green` brews and pours a cup of Honduras David Mancia, and sends it sliding down the bar to Stompro
08:53 mmorgan Stompro++
08:53 Stompro Thanks
08:53 mmorgan That's awesome!
08:54 Shae joined #evergreen
08:56 Dyrcona Stompro: Good luck!
08:58 remingtron joined #evergreen
08:58 Stompro Thanks Dyrcona, I'm feeling much calmer than during our last migration in 2004 from DRA to III, I think we were down for over a week during that one.  Plus I can just call Shae++ if anything comes up.
09:00 Shae Stompro: we're definitely here to help Josh. I know you're in good hands with Erica and Mark, though.
09:02 Dyrcona And you've got us in here, too. Betcha don't get an IRC channel with a commercial ILS.
09:03 sarabee joined #evergreen
09:05 Stompro That is true, thank you to all the IRC regulars that answer my random questions all the time.  And Shae, don't worry, I will actually call Erica first, I don't know how she keeps track of everything, but she does a great job at it.
09:08 Shae Stompro: yes she does. I know you guys have put a lot of work into this as well. we'll all be keeping an eye on things as you go live :)
09:40 yboston joined #evergreen
10:05 mmorgan joined #evergreen
10:07 mmorgan joined #evergreen
10:14 mmorgan1 joined #evergreen
10:17 krvmga joined #evergreen
10:19 jeff Would it be seen as useful to have the ability to fall back to a generic "Projected medium" icon for a bib that has LDR/06=g and no 007? Or a "Videorecording - unknown/other" where the 007 is there but results in an icon_format that we don't have an icon for? The idea being to avoid having a complete lack of format icon in the catalog.
10:20 jeff This may be no simple thing, and there are a few places where it might be implemented... just asking the initial "worth looking further?"
10:21 krvmga at cwmars, we added a digital media player format filter and icon, how do people feel about the icon? http://bark.cwmars.org/eg/opac/results?que​ry=playaway&qtype=keyword&fi%3Asea​rch_format=digitalmediaplayer&locg=1
10:22 krvmga if it has enough "likeability", i'll put it in my working branch
10:23 tsbere jeff: Could be an idea if you rigged things so that if there is no icon_format icon it falls back on item_type automatically.
10:23 tsbere (not that detecting if there is an image would be as easy as "there was no icon_format result at all for the bib")
10:25 jeff tsbere: yup, might be that simple.
10:27 jeff I thought that there were some cases where there was an icon_format but no file on disc for that icon, but 1) I'm wrong and 2) that would be a different kind of issue.
10:29 jeff Though there is the situation of "the 007 defines a format that we don't have an icon_format defined for". I'm not sure that having a method for "we have some info from the 007 that we could fall back on instead of just falling back to the item_type" would be as helpful.
10:37 kmlussier krvmga: I like the digital media player icon
10:38 jeff @quote add <wjr> Physical Characteristics Wizard? That's what I'm going to be for Halloween!
10:38 pinesol_green` jeff: The operation succeeded.  Quote #125 added.
10:38 wjr :P
10:38 jeff wjr++
10:39 krvmga kmlussier: thx
10:40 jeffdavis joined #evergreen
11:02 RBecker joined #evergreen
11:06 dMiller_ joined #evergreen
11:15 yboston morning, yesterday I posted on the dev list my issues trying to force PG 9.2 being instaled with EG 2.7.5
11:15 yboston http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/piperm​ail/open-ils-dev/2015-October/009961.html
11:15 yboston wondering if anyone had any sugegstions for me, TIA
11:24 jihpringle joined #evergreen
11:29 Dyrcona I actually don't, though I did ask you why. I don't think you can do that from the Makefile the way that you tried.
11:29 Dyrcona Well, in truth, I do have a suggestion.
11:29 Dyrcona Or two...
11:30 Dyrcona 1) Find a deb for 9.2 and install that before installing anything else.
11:30 Dyrcona 2) Try the PostgreSQL apt repository and see if they have a package for 9.2 that you can install with apt-get.
11:31 Dyrcona You'd also want to install that before installing anything else related to Evergreen, and skip the PostgreSQL server targets in the Makefiles.
11:31 Dyrcona As a third thing, a dump from 9.2 should load into 9.1, though you'll likely get warnings.
11:32 Dyrcona I successfully load Evergreen dumps from 9.3 onto a 9.1 db server with lots of warnings, but it does succeed and work after.
11:33 Dyrcona And maybe I should mail the list with those answers, but I'm in the middle of other things at the moment.
11:37 Dyrcona And, I emailed the list.
11:38 mmorgan1 left #evergreen
11:40 kmlussier Dyrcona++
11:41 * Dyrcona returns to playing with holds code.
11:41 kmlussier Scary
11:42 jboyer-isl A very spooky Oct-hold-er, oooohhoohhh...
11:43 mmorgan joined #evergreen
11:43 Dyrcona Is there an emoticon for rolling eyes? (Yes. I say emoticon, not emoji.)
11:44 jboyer-isl I've suggested @_@ before. I think that eared one.
11:44 Dyrcona Actually, I'm not changing code in Evergreen. I'm testing if simplifying holds code in NCIPServer will work.
11:45 Dyrcona I think it will, but before I actually write any code there, I like to test the concept with some scripts that make the equivalent calls.
11:45 Dyrcona It works so far for ILL holds placed on local things to go elsewhere.
11:45 Dyrcona I need to test the other direction, now.
11:46 jboyer-isl I've been meaning to ask you about that. Are your local NCIPServer changes available? (I was thinking that there were multiple repos for NCIPServer and didn't know what's where) I find myself in a position to help with that in the next few months.
11:46 kmlussier jboyer-isl: That looks like it should be an emoticon for somebody who was just blinded by a camera flash.
11:46 jboyer-isl kmlussier: Multi-purpose!
11:47 Dyrcona x_*
11:47 Dyrcona ;)
11:47 Dyrcona jboyer-isl: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/NCIPServer.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/h​eads/user/dyrcona/better_abstraction
11:48 Dyrcona That branch completely breaks the Koha driver.
11:48 jboyer-isl Aha. I'll try to poke around with it. (our project isn't getting started until mid next year, but I need to know all I can about it before that.)
11:48 Dyrcona rangi, magnuse, others, and I need to work out how to integrate our disparate branches.
11:49 jboyer-isl That sounds like a pain. 4+ separate branches is likely to be a real mess. :(
11:49 Dyrcona jboyer-isl: There's room for improvement there. In some cases, there's more code than necessary because I ran out of time.
11:50 jboyer-isl I see.
11:50 Dyrcona Well, there's basic agreement between rangi and I that my public method interface is preferred, though I think he'll want to change to pass the raw XML instead of a hashref made from the XML.
11:50 Dyrcona But, he can speak for himself later if he wants to.
11:52 Dyrcona As an example of the "too much code," I'm working on switching from a check for local, holdable copies, followed by open-ils.circ.title_hold.is_possible, and then open-ils.circ.hold.create, to a single open-ils.circ.holds.test_and_create.batch.
11:53 Dyrcona The latter does all three in one go.
11:54 Dyrcona Guess the next set of experiments will wait until after lunch.
11:54 * Dyrcona is hungry.
11:56 mmorgan Dyrcona: Looking too much at holds will cause that ;-)
11:57 Dyrcona or this: @_@
11:57 Dyrcona :)
11:57 mmorgan Dyrcona++
11:58 Dyrcona jboyer-isl: I'll send you a PDF I created for MassLNC. There are no real instructions in the README to install it.
11:58 jboyer-isl Dyrcona: Thanks, I was poking around and wondering where to begin. (Seems a fine thing to test on the new dev server I'm supposed to be building ASAP.)
12:05 yboston Dyrcona: thanks for replying twice to my email and my apologies for "crossign the streams"
12:05 Dyrcona No big deal. I probably would not have replied on list if you had not asked in here.
12:07 yboston I'll buy you a beer when I see you soon. BTW, we have been trying out trivia some Tuesday at the Kendall sq Marriot restaurant (Champions). It start at 6, which might be hard to get to
12:07 yboston *Tuesdays *starts
12:08 kmlussier Sounds fun. I wish I could make it up there Tuesdays.
12:08 yboston lets meet there on the way from Logan to Danvers :)
12:17 dMiller_ joined #evergreen
13:01 rlefaive joined #evergreen
13:42 mmorgan joined #evergreen
14:01 dMiller_ joined #evergreen
14:04 mmorgan joined #evergreen
14:24 jeffdavis has anyone else seen the problem described in bug 1509468 ?
14:24 pinesol_green` Launchpad bug 1509468 in Evergreen "Opt-in user setting Boolean value incorrectly saved with quotation marks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509468
14:27 rlefaive joined #evergreen
14:40 tsbere jeffdavis: I question your default. Is the default value itself set to 'true' or '"true"
14:41 jeffdavis definitely set to true (no quotes)
14:44 edoceo joined #evergreen
14:55 tsbere jeffdavis: I don't see us having those issues on our end, but we don't use defaults. I can only assume, as a result, that the defaults are the problem.
14:55 jeffdavis So maybe EG is adding quotes when it grabs the default value.
14:56 tsbere Or maybe it is translating "true" to something else when it is reading a setting, but not when it is a default?
14:57 Stompro Hello SIP2 experts, I'm being told by OCLC that whether or not a patron password is required is set by the SIP2 server, but there is nothing that I can find in the sip config file that addresses that.  And another vendor is able to authenticate users with using passwords without any trouble.  Can anyone provide some tips?
14:58 Stompro s/with/without/
14:58 tsbere jeffdavis: Specifically, defaults are loaded via pcrud....user's existing settings come from open-ils.actor....and the latter does a JSON2Perl change in the middle.
14:59 tsbere Stompro: Evergreen it is more of a "provide the password field if you want to check passwords" deal.
14:59 tsbere If you provide that field (empty or otherwise) Evergreen will return the "was the password valid?" field. If you don't provide that field I believe Evergreen skips the response field.
15:01 Stompro Thanks tsbere, that helps a bunch.
15:02 * dbs sighs as Google Book Previews churlishly continue to serve up HTTP resources even in an all-HTTPS environment
15:04 ericar joined #evergreen
15:06 jlitrell joined #evergreen
15:09 * gmcharlt offers up the pull request on bug 1509479 as something that probably should have eyes on it promptly
15:09 pinesol_green` Launchpad bug 1509479 in Evergreen 2.9 "infinite loop when parsing modified unclosed phrase search query" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509479
15:09 * dbs looking
15:11 ericar_ joined #evergreen
15:18 dbs Restarting open-ils.storage causes all hell to break loose IIRC?
15:18 * tsbere wonders if the typo in gmcharlt's test file should be fixed
15:19 tsbere dbs: Depends on what is happening in your system at the time, I would think.
15:19 gmcharlt yeah, on a quiescent system, its fine
15:19 jboyer-isl joined #evergreen
15:19 * dbs currently only has an up-to-date production server and is hesitant to give it a restart there
15:21 gmcharlt yeah, easier to do it in a multi-app-server setup
15:21 * dbs will test it outside of core work hours though
15:21 gmcharlt tsbere: the phase, it is unclosed?
15:22 tsbere gmcharlt: My brain jumped on "phase" instead of "phrase" when looking over the test. The fact it isn't closed is obviously intentional.
15:22 gmcharlt right
15:46 gmcharlt dbs: tsbere: thanks for the feedback; I've pushed a branch that incorporates it
15:49 tsbere gmcharlt: You put in more debug code than I would have, at least.
15:49 * tsbere would probably have defined $loops, then just added a "and $loops++ < 1000" type condition to the while
16:05 jihpringle joined #evergreen
16:17 Christineb joined #evergreen
17:03 bradley left #evergreen
17:08 mmorgan joined #evergreen
17:17 mmorgan left #evergreen
17:18 b_bonner joined #evergreen
19:28 bshum That's better :)
21:59 bmills joined #evergreen
23:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1509479: set a limit on loops in QP's decompose() method - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b15a61f>
23:58 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1509479: fix infinite loop bug in QueryParser - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b517367>

| Channels | #evergreen index | Today | | Search | Google Search | Plain-Text | summary | Join Webchat