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04:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Test Failure - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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08:54 kmlussier That's the first qatest report we've seen in here in a while.
08:56 krvmga i'm not having success putting new format icons in the catalog
08:57 krvmga i created the icons; put them in /openils/var/web/images/format_icons/icon_format; made the new CVMs for OPAC Icon Formats, restarted apache, reingested some sample records; icons aren't showing up
08:57 krvmga i've missed something i'm sure.
08:57 krvmga but i'm not sure what
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09:09 jeff krvmga: can you share a sample record that you've reingested?
09:10 kmlussier jeff: We think we've identified the problem. It looks like there was an issue with the cvm definition.
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10:31 tsbere kmlussier / krvmga: While the config.coded_value_map entry is all well and good, did you add the config.composite_attr_entry_definition row for it?
10:33 kmlussier tsbere: We're not working in the database ATM, so I wouldn't be able to answer your question without knowing the staff client equivalent of where this would be configured.
10:33 krvmga tsbere: what kmlussier said
10:33 csharp okay, following up on my acq issue from yesterday for the sake of the logs
10:35 csharp I learned that the acq.transfer_fund() function is not working because there are no matching rows in acq.ordered_funding_source_credit for the funding sources for the "old" fund
10:35 tsbere kmlussier / krvmga: Apparently that is the "manage" button under "Composite Definition". Never knew that. I have always messed with them from the DB side.
10:35 csharp so there are no values to LOOP through at all
10:35 kmlussier tsbere: Yes, that is where the cvm definition was off. I think krvmga has fixed it.
10:35 csharp so now my task is to learn what acq.ordered_funding_source_credit is and what it's for ;-)
10:36 csharp and why it doesn't have rows when it should
10:36 krvmga tsbere / kmlussier: yes, i fixed it.
10:37 tsbere csharp: I think you can skip the ordered one and jump straight to the acq.funding_source_credit table as the view only orders things from that table.
10:37 csharp tsbere: ah - thank you
10:40 csharp ok - I see what's going on - the funds in question have debits but no credits
10:41 csharp so this appears to be another "bad setup" issue
10:41 csharp however, once I learn how it *should* work, we might need another sanity check in the function to prevent others from having to go down this same rabbit hole
10:42 tsbere csharp: Or at least raise a warning, hopefully to be logged, saying "we didn't transfer X amount of funds from A to B" at the end?
10:45 csharp tsbere: yes - at least that
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11:08 kmlussier Curious. The circ history list on webby isn't displaying any titles, even when the copy has a circ history. But it works perfectly fine in the web client on Dyrcona's server.
11:10 kmlussier I was going to file a bug in LP, but I suppose I can't if it's working fine in master.
11:49 berick hm, wondering if we should/could start listing the LP# in release notes.  would make it easier to find the original code for e.g. cross-porting tpac template changes.
11:53 jeff reflexive +1
11:54 kmlussier berick: There have been times I've seen a feature in the release notes and then wanted to jump to the related LP entry and/or git commit. I think it could be useufl.
11:54 kmlussier useful, even
11:55 jeff This could also be a sign that we need to work better at getting more information out of the bug and commit and into the release notes.
11:55 jeff Dunno.
11:57 gmcharlt berick: I've done that in the OpenSRF release notes for a while, and Koha's been citing bug numbers for years, so a general +1
11:58 kmlussier jeff: Well, we don't want the release notes to be too wordy either. I can't recally why I wanted to see the LP entry, but I'm likely to be looking for more details than the average end user would need to know.
11:58 gmcharlt and it shouldn't be too hard to write a script for extract the relevant bug numbers and titles
12:00 berick gmcharlt: hadn't thought about automation.  was just thinking devs add them to the release notes as they write them
12:00 gmcharlt which would work, but would be a bit typo-prone
12:01 gmcharlt the two approaches coudl be easily combine: first section being the human-written release notes, more or less as we do them now
12:01 gmcharlt followed by an automatically-created table of the bug citations
12:02 berick oh, right, cuz the commits that contain the release notes have the LP number
12:05 jeff which themselves are typo-prone ;-)
12:05 jeff but yes.
12:06 dbs jeff: I think you mean typ0-pron3
12:06 gmcharlt and hey, grabbing bug numbers from the commit history to feed into the release notes gives us a release to implement native git tags for point releases :)
12:07 gmcharlt (as it makes it slightly easier to calculate the set of commits between x.y.z and x.y.z+1)
12:21 dbs git tags, eh? HERESY
12:22 * Dyrcona uses git tags in his own projects.
12:27 * dbs tried to convince schema.org to use git tags instead of copying the contents of each release into a "version" folder and committing that but failed
12:28 dbs https://github.com/schemaorg/sch​emaorg/tree/master/data/releases -- you're doing it wrong!
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14:04 bshum tspindler++ # setting up this gotomeeting
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14:18 * gmcharlt will be relaying action items and highlights from the EOB meeting
14:19 jeff gmcharlt++
14:19 kmlussier gmcharlt++
14:21 gmcharlt Johnnie from NC Cardinal giving an update on planning for next year's conference
14:21 gmcharlt they're currently in discussions with a potential keynote speaker
14:23 gmcharlt Conservancy also negotiating with Eventbrite re whether they'll operate the registration again
14:24 gmcharlt deadline for proposals to present at the conference is January 15th, 2016
14:29 tspindler Attendees to the Board Meeting: Andrea Neiman, Ben Shum, Chauncey Montgomery, Galen Charlton,  Grace Dunbar, Johnnie Pippin, Ruth Frasur, Tim Spindler, Yamil Suarez
14:31 gmcharlt also, at some point soonish, the conference committee will be soliciting external members to join the programming committee
14:36 gmcharlt now discussing the Hack-a-way
14:36 gmcharlt and reminder: if you are attending and need to get a hotel room: REGISTER TODAY (before the room block goes away)
14:37 gmcharlt details at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org​/doku.php?id=hack-a-way-2015
14:41 kmlussier And add your name to http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=hack-a-way-2015-agenda ! Otherwise, we might not have enough food to feed everyone, and you'll have to go without. ;)
14:42 csharp kmlussier++
14:42 gmcharlt worse... go without caffeine! ;)
14:42 gmcharlt kmlussier++
14:43 kmlussier And if you don't add your travel plans here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FsYv8wHww1​eKrFUkn_Ur0s0w5-6waxZeWfTU3u6ay38/edit?usp=sharing - you may spend the entire trip at the airport.
14:43 kmlussier gmcharlt: True fact. NOBLE never runs out of coffee.
14:44 gmcharlt @quote add <kmlussier> True fact. NOBLE never runs out of coffee.
14:44 pinesol_green gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #124 added.
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14:45 jeff kmlussier: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jefoto/270933882/
14:46 kmlussier heh
14:47 jeff This is normally how we get our coffee: http://www.highergroundstr​ading.com/31/beans-by-bike
14:50 gmcharlt and the EOB meeting has finished
14:50 gmcharlt csharp will be providing minutes, and a recording will be put up at some point soonish
14:50 csharp gmcharlt++
14:50 montgoc1 gmcharlt++
14:50 csharp yepperse
14:51 yboston tspindler: are you available?
14:51 bshum kmlussier: Some of us don't partake anyways.  So you guys can have my share ;)
14:51 tspindler yes
14:51 gmcharlt and we've all learned something: bees do not like board meetings, and will try to disrupt them ;)
14:51 kmlussier bshum: True, but I'm sure you want to make sure there is plenty of pizza, right?
14:52 kmlussier Wow. The hour goes by much more quickly when you aren't following along.
14:52 tspindler yboston: did you have a question?
15:00 kmlussier Running a record attribute reingest - is this the right way to do it? http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/dev/_reco​rd_attributes_reingest_recommended.html
15:00 kmlussier That tip was there to address a specific bug fix, but I assume it's good if you're running the reingest for other reasons.
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15:44 kmlussier jeffdavis: Out of curiousity, what Evergreen release are you on?
15:48 * bshum bets 2.8
15:49 gmcharlt kmlussier: yes, (though I'd add a " where not deleted")
15:50 kmlussier gmcharlt++ Thanks!
15:50 kmlussier bshum: It was the only catalog I was looking at where I couldn't find a version using the magic spells page trick.
15:50 bshum kmlussier: I just guessed based on their git repo
15:50 bshum http://git.sitka.bclibraries.ca/gitw​eb/?p=sitka/evergreen.git;a=summary
15:51 bshum But yeah, it looks like they've got HEAD so they're installing from git.
15:51 bshum I thought about changing ours actually
15:51 bshum And stamping it properly with some nonsense like "2.9-ish" :)
15:52 bshum But I'd wonder if that'd break anything actually important.
15:52 * bshum adds it to his long list
16:00 jeffdavis kmlussier: yep, we're on 2.8.1 (with many customizations), installing from our git repo.
16:01 kmlussier jeffdavis: Thanks!
16:05 jeffdavis bshum: assuming it didn't break anything, I wonder if it would be a good step to stamp it with the stamp ID or something during make install
16:08 Dyrcona I have been told that we should set that version string to something "expected" for vendors.
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16:46 kmlussier Good night Evergreeners!
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18:53 kmlussier gmcharlt++ #2.next RM nomination
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