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05:13 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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09:25 Dyrcona Hmm... I want to parse a macxml file in Python. Do I learn edsu's pymarc lib or just an xpath lib?
09:26 Dyrcona That should be "or just use an xmpath lib," which is something that I already know how to do.
09:29 Dyrcona Jeez. I make typos in my corrections.....
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09:29 Dyrcona So, I'll use lxml.etree, since it has more complete xpath support than xml.etree and friends that come with Python.
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10:46 bshum Hmm
10:46 RoganH eh?
10:46 bshum Well this is entertaining. Some email overdue got parsed incorrectly and it made the entire body of message into the FROM line
10:46 bshum So it tried emailing every word individually from the notice as an @ to the utility server.
10:46 bshum This should be "fun"
10:46 RoganH That's both awful and kind of funny.
10:47 berick hey, the message still got delivered ;)
10:47 bshum berick: Funny enough yeah.
10:47 bshum So far I can't find any weird characters in the email of the patron itself.
10:48 bshum But I did just notice that the A/T template is all one line... with \r between where all the returns ought to be.
10:48 bshum Windows vs. Linux problems :(
10:48 bshum Course... on any of Windows machine, looking at the A/T template, it looks just fine
10:49 RoganH I'm setting up a new Windows VM right now.  Kind of makes me feel unclean.
10:49 bshum With the staff client, it renders the template with all the right breaks
10:49 bshum And with pgadmin, it still shows it right too
10:49 bshum But using psql, that revealed the weirdness
10:49 * bshum tries reformatting the whole thing more properly and sees if that helps.
10:50 bshum RoganH: I installed Windows 10 on one of my other laptops last week, and I had a similar feeling afterwards.
10:50 RoganH bshum: that's what I'm doing
11:27 gsams I upgraded my gaming rig to Win10 last week, haven't had time to do much other than turn off a lot of the privacy concerns.
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11:46 gsams I am seriously considering moving to linux though, with all of the added support it has been getting for gaming (and wine works surprisingly well honestly.)
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12:27 Bmagic I know I've asked this before but I can't seem to turn up the IRC log. Where are the "//mods32:mods/mods32:titleInfo[mods32:title and (@type='uniform-nfi')]" defined? It was a file on the /openils tree somewhere if memory serves
12:27 bshum I think that's actually in the database
12:27 bshum config.xml_transform?
12:27 Bmagic the definition for 'abbreviated'
12:28 Bmagic bshum: oh yeah, that seems to have what I am looking for
12:28 bshum Yeah I think that anything "mods32" related
12:28 bshum Comes from the XML for mods32 from that table
12:29 Bmagic It's a file as well somewhere
12:29 Bmagic two different pieces of code refer to two different locations, one in the DB, and one on the FS
12:29 Bmagic (I could have swore that was what I was told)
12:31 Dyrcona The copy in the database is used for most situations.
12:32 Dyrcona Particularly for indexing.
12:34 Dyrcona OpenILS::Utils::ModParser uses the one from the file system, and that's the only thing that I'm aware of that uses it from the filesystem.
12:36 Dyrcona By extension, OpenILS::Application::AppUtils::record_to_mvr uses the one from the filesystem, since it uses the above module, but that's more information than you probably wanted. :)
12:37 * Dyrcona goes back to trying to figure out a better way to match records from a third-party vendor for updates and deletes.
12:37 Bmagic I am trying to figure out why metabib.author_field_entry doesnt have some of the 700a's for a paticular record
12:38 Dyrcona That would be the mods in the database.
12:38 Bmagic by all accounts, as far as I can tell, it should index all of the 700a's in the marc, however, it doesn't
12:38 Dyrcona There are different versions of the mods stylesheets, so the mods version may make a difference.
12:39 Dyrcona Also, Evergreen has customized one or two of them.
12:40 Dyrcona Guess that only matters if you're comparing them to the ones what LoC publishes, though.
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13:05 krvmga in searching, the grammar says you can use ^ to left anchor a phrase search and $ to right anchor a phrase search. i'm assuming they are mutually exclusive (in other words you can use one or the other but not both at once). is this correct?
13:06 Dyrcona You can use both, but you have to match the whole thing.
13:06 Dyrcona So, basically, yeah, don't use both. :)
13:07 krvmga Dyrcona: thx :)
13:10 bshum Give me a ping Vasily. One ping only, please.
13:42 krvmga bshum: LOL (I know that's a belated laugh. I was away for a little while.)
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14:38 kmlussier RoganH: Tireless work?
14:38 RoganH tireless, showing great effort and energy
14:38 RoganH I spelled it right didn't I?
14:39 bshum RoganH++ kmlussier++ # hackaway, whoot!
14:40 kmlussier RoganH: Yes, it's spelled correctly.  I must admit that monitoring emails from you with updates on dates can be a little exhausting. ;)
14:41 RoganH kmlussier: sorry
14:41 RoganH I threw up a short version of the announcement on the web site.  No bells and whistle just the date announcement.
14:41 kmlussier RoganH++
14:49 Dyrcona RoganH++ kmlussier++ # hackaway
14:57 berick RoganH++ kmlussier++ # hackaway
14:57 berick copy_paste_karma++
14:57 Dyrcona heh
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15:35 Bmagic RoganH++ kmlussier++ # hackaway
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15:36 Bmagic Anyone have any insight for me. Im attempting to figure out why some of the 700a fields are not included in the author index for a record. All of the stuff in config.metabib_field and config.xml_transform tells me that it should include all 700a's
15:38 Bmagic config.metabib_field defines "author";"personal" which config.xml_transform defines "mods32" <name type="personal"> says "<xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield[@tag='700']​[not(marc:subfield[@code='t'])]">"
15:39 Bmagic I am taking that to mean "All non-t subfields in the 700 tags are indexed" Or is it just the first 700?
15:41 Bmagic I'm basing this on this query: select * from metabib.author_field_entry where source = 1312204
15:43 kmlussier Bmagic: I don't know the answer to your question, but, to be clear, are you saying that it is indexing some, but not all 700a's?
15:44 Bmagic yes, I believe so, or it could be none of them and only the 100 because the 100a shares the same contents as one of the 700a which shows up in the index
15:45 Bmagic kmlussier: does the stock evergreen indexes include the 700a? It looks like it does but maybe not for author? Only keyword?
15:49 kmlussier Bmagic: I can't remember off the top of my head.
15:50 Bmagic kmlussier: I might have answered my own question. No. Because the definition is asking for a roleTerm[text()='creator' and all of the definitions in config.xml_transform related to 700 do not have that role of 'creator'
15:51 Bmagic Does anyone index the 700a fields for the author?
15:52 kmlussier Bmagic: What about the stock other author index?
15:52 Bmagic the stock doesn't include the 700a, because of the role='creator' requirement
15:53 Bmagic Correct me if I'm wrong
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16:01 kmlussier Bmagic: Sorry, I'm mostly going from memory. Swimming in budgets today.
16:06 berick scrooge mcduck's less fun sister
16:15 jboyer-isl berick++
16:15 jboyer-isl The internet needs more DuckTales.
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16:55 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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