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@weather 29621 |
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pinesol_green |
alynn26: The current temperature in Southwood Area, Anderson, South Carolina is 72.0°F (2:29 AM EDT on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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pinesol_green |
All hail the supreme potentate, bshum has arrived! |
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berick |
@weather 27712 |
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pinesol_green |
berick: The current temperature in Heritage Heights, Durham, North Carolina is 74.7°F (9:33 AM EDT on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
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RoganH_ |
@weather 29732 |
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pinesol_green |
RoganH_: The current temperature in Twinoaks Observatory, Rock Hill, South Carolina is 73.9°F (9:30 AM EDT on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
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* berick |
finds it interesting how many people opt for the mailing list message digest option |
| 09:48 |
RoganH_ |
I'd never read anything if I set it to digest. |
| 09:49 |
berick |
i can imagine |
| 09:58 |
kmlussier |
I've used digest for some mailing lists that weren't particularly important to me. |
| 10:09 |
Bmagic |
bshum: which branch NICs do you have? |
| 10:11 |
bshum |
Bmagic: I think they're broadcom NICs |
| 10:12 |
Bmagic |
bshum: sweet, and you got it working! |
| 10:13 |
Bmagic |
bshum++ |
| 10:13 |
bshum |
Bmagic: I bashed my head on it for awhile yesterday, but yeah, Powershell is awesome, once you figure it out... |
| 10:13 |
Bmagic |
I agree, they took some pointers from bash |
| 10:13 |
krvmga |
following the instructions for including locally hosted content in my public interface, i cannot get the locally hosted jacket images to show up |
| 10:15 |
krvmga |
for instance, the location of the large image is /openils/var/web/opac/extras/ac/jacket/large/r/2647511 |
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berick |
Dyrcona++ # RM plans |
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kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Hawaii Isla Kona Mauka, and sends it sliding down the bar to jeff_____ |
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* jeff |
grabs it on its way to jeff_____ |
| 10:48 |
krvmga |
i notice, when i view source, the href in rdetail_image_div is /opac/extras/ac/jacket/large/r/2647511 but the src is /opac/extras/ac/jacket/medium/r/2647511 . is that as it should be? |
| 10:49 |
tsbere |
krvmga: It links to the large one, but shows the medium on the page by default |
| 10:54 |
krvmga |
i wonder if the issue was caching on the server because the images are now starting to show up |
| 10:55 |
tsbere |
Under normal circumstances they will cache individually |
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Dyrcona |
dbwells++ |
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* dbwells |
didn't really want credit for his pedantry :) |
| 11:00 |
Megakeen |
Anyone know if it's possible to add items to a record bucket using its bucket id rather than its name? |
| 11:04 |
Megakeen |
I'm trying to use the record buckets interface to manage an OPAC-visible bookbag but said bookbag/bucket doesn't appear in the list when I use Item Status->Add to record bucket. |
| 11:05 |
phasefx |
Megakeen: you should be able to pull it up via the id |
| 11:06 |
Megakeen |
I can view it by the id, but I don't know how to add to it using the id. |
| 11:06 |
phasefx |
once retrieved, it should be a matter of permissions on whether you can add to it or not |
| 11:06 |
Megakeen |
As far as I can tell the record buckets interface only lets you add by doing a query, moving the query results to pending records and then moving pending records to the currently-selected bucket. |
| 11:07 |
phasefx |
Megakeen: oh I see, you're wanting to know whether you can add to such a bucket from another interface like the catalog? |
| 11:08 |
phasefx |
Megakeen: I think for now, you may want to create a "staging" bucket, put things in there while working, and then transfer them to your bookbag bucket enmasse |
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Megakeen |
Yes. In an ideal world I'd be able to load a CSV of barcodes into Item Status or whatever and add them to the bookbag en mass. |
| 11:10 |
Megakeen |
Ohhh. That's kind of obvious in hindsight, I feel dumb. Make a plain old record bucket (non-bookbag) and populate it from my CSV, pull it up in the record buckets interface and transfer everything to pending, then pull up the OPAC bucket by id and add all the pending items. |
| 11:10 |
Megakeen |
phasefx: Thanks! |
| 11:10 |
phasefx |
Megakeen++ exactly |
| 11:12 |
Megakeen |
Okay, another newbie question. I've seen a number of people in here use 'name++' after receiving help. Is that just jargon or is there actually some kind of channel reputation system in use? |
| 11:12 |
phasefx |
Megakeen: the latter |
| 11:12 |
phasefx |
@karma |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
phasefx: Highest karma: "bshum" (13), "yboston" (13), and "kmlussier" (11). Lowest karma: "marc" (-2), "ie" (-1), and "microsoft" (-1). You (phasefx) are ranked 11 out of 41. |
| 11:14 |
Megakeen |
Oh, good to know. I'm sure I'll be back in here the next time I get stumped so I'll be able to show my gratitude properly! |
| 11:14 |
Megakeen |
phasefx++ |
| 11:14 |
phasefx |
:D |
| 11:25 |
* tsbere |
shakes his fist at the limited configure options for OpenSRF |
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| 11:50 |
kmlussier |
Bmagic / hopkinsju: Looks like Wednesday, June 10 is the best date for Bug Squashing Day. http://doodle.com/g4b87nsp2d7s87gx. I just want to make sure it works for you before finalizing the date. |
| 11:50 |
Bmagic |
kmlussier: just a minute |
| 11:51 |
Megakeen |
'Lo again. Could anyone tell me where the receiving email for bounced patron notices is set? (Assuming you can actually set that from the client) |
| 11:52 |
kmlussier |
Bmagic / hopkinsju: Also, I'm thinking we should have all requests be submitted by June 7 so that we have two full days to get the Sandboxes ready. Does that does give enough time? |
| 11:54 |
csharp |
Megakeen: probably in Admin -> Server Administration -> Organizational Units |
| 11:55 |
phasefx |
Megakeen: it really depends on the Action/Trigger notification templates, but I think by default they use the library setting "Sending email address for patron notices" |
| 11:56 |
phasefx |
internally, that's called org.bounced_emails |
| 11:56 |
hopkinsju |
kmlussier: That date works for us! |
| 11:56 |
csharp |
phasefx: I wondered about that, but I thought A/T just uses the OU settings |
| 11:56 |
csharp |
I mean the email entered in the OU setup |
| 11:56 |
kmlussier |
hopkinsju: Great! Thanks! |
| 11:57 |
kmlussier |
Bmagic++ hopkinsju++ |
| 11:57 |
* csharp |
has never dug into that, just speaking from observed behavior |
| 11:57 |
hopkinsju |
I think we will use the extra lead time to make sure that we can load as many patches on the same machine as possible. Do you have any idea the volume of bugs we might want to load patches for? |
| 11:57 |
phasefx |
csharp: Megakeen: so stock looks like it has From: [%- params.sender_email || default_sender %] That first option is an action/trigger parameter you can set for a given template |
| 11:57 |
phasefx |
and as for default_sender... |
| 11:57 |
Megakeen |
..I blame extreme exhaustion for my failure to comprehend obvious things today. Bounce messages are going to go to the sender, which is a donotreply address. The fact that another employee is receiving them just means our email provider is auto-forwarding them, aye? |
| 11:58 |
phasefx |
it looks like default_sender might come from opensrf.xml |
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phasefx |
csharp: Megakeen: to use the library setting, you'd need to put something like this in the template: helpers.get_org_setting(lib.id, 'org.bounced_emails') |
| 12:02 |
phasefx |
Megakeen: I think so; none of the behavior there with mail servers and bounces are consistently defined across mail servers, I think |
| 12:03 |
pgardella |
Megakeen: Or you can use user.home_ou if you want to library where the user has the account vs the library of the object (I think that's the difference). As in: " helpers.get_org_setting(user.home_ou, 'org.bounced_emails') ||" |
| 12:03 |
Megakeen |
phasefx: I'm going to talk to the employee who's currently receiving the bounce messages and see if they're just being forwarded from the notice-sending address. If that's the case I'll have to talk to our IT department (god help me) to sort it out. |
| 12:04 |
Megakeen |
Either way, csharp++ phasefx++ pgardella++ |
| 12:05 |
kmlussier |
hopkinsju: Historically, it looks like we've needed MOBIUS to load 4 or 5 patches. MassLNC was able to take care of the rest. But I don't know if we'll see more this time around now that I've talked it up at the conference. |
| 12:09 |
kmlussier |
@later tell yboston I wonder if Evergreen/DIG has anything useful to share here? http://opensource.com/business/15/5/cfp-documentation-articles |
| 12:09 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The operation succeeded. |
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hopkinsju |
http://cl.ly/image/0q0X0A232o0w |
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| 12:54 |
kmlussier |
Ha ha - yes, it was the funniest part of the conference. |
| 12:54 |
kmlussier |
hopkinsju++ jeff++ |
| 12:55 |
jeff |
? |
| 12:55 |
jeff |
oh. link provides context. |
| 12:55 |
jeff |
yeah, that's not accurate. |
| 12:55 |
jeff |
but i'm not going to nit pick. |
| 12:57 |
* berick |
had the same thought, but shut himself up |
| 12:58 |
hopkinsju |
Sadface |
| 12:58 |
hopkinsju |
I guess jeff should have explained it better! |
| 12:59 |
jeff |
lightning talk idea. |
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bshum |
jeff++ # planning for next conference already ;) |
| 13:17 |
csharp |
jeff++ |
| 13:19 |
csharp |
jeff was using bogus auth keys (strings like HELLO_CHRIS) that he knew would generate osrferror.log messages (to my understanding of what I was seeing) |
| 13:22 |
bshum |
Hmm |
| 13:22 |
bshum |
For https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1458942 -- do I recall correctly that there's something we do in receipt template to only show the Notify by phone line if the option is selected? |
| 13:22 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1458942 in Evergreen "In edit user, the hold notification format should rule if user get phone or email notices" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] |
| 13:23 |
bshum |
I'm thinking the bug could be reclassified a support issue in terms of how one decides to use Evergreen. |
| 13:26 |
* bshum |
might start with some clarifying questions |
| 13:28 |
alynn26 |
There is a way to do this with the receipts. I'll have to look at my notes on how to do this. |
| 13:30 |
bshum |
alynn26: If you find it, I'd be curious, I didn't have it in my notes offhand and didn't see it on our default receipts. |
| 13:30 |
bshum |
Might be a handy thing to put into stock... :) |
| 13:33 |
alynn26 |
%notify_by_phone_msg% shows the Phone number; %notify_by_email_msg% shows the email address |
| 13:45 |
alynn26 |
I just tried them, and they did not work like expected. What does work is %notify_by_phone% this just gives the phone number in the holds record. |
| 13:49 |
alynn26 |
I was wrong, and they do work. Helps if you "Save Locally". There is also %notify_by_text_msg% which is for text notification. |
| 13:50 |
bshum |
alynn26++ # cool! thanks for checking on that for us |
| 13:52 |
alynn26 |
I guess I need to update that on the documentation. |
| 14:02 |
bshum |
"...I'm leaving on a jet plane..." |
| 14:11 |
berick |
bshum: do you know when you'll be back again? |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
berick: the answer to that may depend on EOB action regarding the purchase of jet fuel |
| 14:13 |
RoganH |
Are we supplying bshum with sushi in flight as well? Special steward services? |
| 14:16 |
berick |
hah, always wise to have just enough money for half of your fuel |
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| 14:25 |
bshum |
Hehe |
| 14:28 |
bshum |
I sometimes think about what it'd be like flying on a small private jet. |
| 14:28 |
bshum |
But anyways... |
| 14:46 |
kmlussier |
jklapes++ |
| 14:46 |
kmlussier |
I know he's never in here, but he deserves the karma for kicking off that discussion. |
| 14:50 |
mrpeters |
is there written documentation for installing the angular based staff client written anywhere? i followed the README for a checkout of master, and made sure to install websockets and used the <osname>-developer option on the Makefile but I'm getting just a blank page (though with source code referencing angular.min.js and such) so it seems I'm part way there, but maybe missing some dependencies that I'm overlooking in the readm |
| 14:51 |
bshum |
mrpeters: Yes, it's not all the way finished and fleshed out, but it does exist. |
| 14:51 |
bshum |
And yes, you need to do the extra steps, or it doesn't compile properly. |
| 14:51 |
bshum |
mrpeters: http://evergreen-ils.org/~bshum/Evergreen-README.html#_optional_extra_steps_for_browser_based_staff_client is an example of some of the steps that we moved up into the main README (they need more work...) |
| 14:52 |
bshum |
I think I pushed it to a working branch somewhere... |
| 14:52 |
bshum |
Yes: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab/bshum/README-webclient |
| 14:54 |
bshum |
I adapted those steps from a README that berick included for making the web client in the main repo. |
| 14:57 |
bshum |
mrpeters: So the key is that those steps all happen before the configure, make, make install |
| 14:57 |
bshum |
That way, the stuff is built and then copied in place when you do the usual make install |
| 14:57 |
bshum |
Otherwise, you have nothing and the blank page issue. |
| 14:58 |
bshum |
For further reference, the original web client README is: Open-ILS/web/js/ui/default/staff/README.install |
| 14:59 |
* bshum |
goes back to thinking about jet planes |
| 15:00 |
berick |
fyi, if you're on ubuntu 14.04, you can install nodejs-legacy instead of installing from source/git |
| 15:00 |
bshum |
berick++ |
| 15:03 |
berick |
or you could just install 2.8, which has a full build, then start hacking on top of that |
| 15:03 |
bshum |
Also a good option. |
| 15:10 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: Question, for get_holds.sql; should this stay at 1 (whole consortium?) because we want to know what holds there are, period? vs. only for a specific library |
| 15:10 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: Also, I had fun when I finally realized that the extract_holds.sh script was still calling get_items.sql not get_holds.sql and sending item data as the holds file :D |
| 15:12 |
jboyer-isl |
bshum: I use the same system id as the regular extracts. The thinking is that you care what your patrons want, not what items you have that other patrons want. (If memory serves, that system id is used to gather all holds from those pickup locations, not to look at items necessarily. |
| 15:12 |
csharp |
oh, btw, awitter added spam filtering to evergreen-ils.org so the feedback address should be far less spammy than before - he's still tweaking though |
| 15:12 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: Ah alrighty. I'll give that a whirl. |
| 15:13 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl++ # thanks! :) |
| 15:13 |
bshum |
awitter++ # spam warrior |
| 15:14 |
jboyer-isl |
Also, oops about the scripts. We don't use them so I didn't test them properly, just copy pasta. |
| 15:16 |
berick |
jboyer-isl: tell me more about this pasta replicator |
| 15:16 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: No worries, gives me stuff to poke at someday. |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
"Our pasta who art in collander, draining be they noodles..." |
| 15:19 |
jboyer-isl |
berick: Currently all it replicates are typos, I'm working on spaghetti next. |
| 15:19 |
jboyer-isl |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:19 |
mrpeters |
thanks! |
| 15:19 |
mrpeters |
bshum++ |
| 15:48 |
bshum |
csharp: You guys got 1 TB RAM DB servers, you said? |
| 15:49 |
bshum |
I'm working on new specs for more hardware, toying with the idea of supersizing our RAM request. |
| 15:55 |
jboyer-isl |
bshum: I don't know if csharp did or not, but I have a DB with 1TB of RAM and I'd rate it above SSDs myself. (so long as you have 15K drives, that is. 5400 or 7200 are right out.) |
| 15:55 |
bshum |
jboyer-isl: That's what I was contemplating too. |
| 15:56 |
bshum |
Non-SSD storage, but with more than enough RAM to have to deal with major I/O issues. |
| 15:56 |
bshum |
As the tradeoff. |
| 15:56 |
jboyer-isl |
Then there are no concerns about TRIM support, etc. (also, how often do you really hit the disk? ;) ) |
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jboyer-isl |
I will say for the logs, there's a lot of Pg tuning that you need to do to really make the best use of that much ram. I don't think we're 100% there, but things are in pretty good shape for the most part. (there are still sorting temp files created very occasionally) |
| 16:06 |
jboyer-isl |
My hope is that I can get an identical model for testing, that would be huge. |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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* berick |
wonders if anyone has used http://sqitch.org/ for any projects. |
| 18:01 |
* berick |
says before disappearing |
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bshum |
berick: I saw it in action during a PGCon tutorial and thought it was very interesting. |
| 19:32 |
bshum |
Didn't get to think through it all towards Evergreen then though. And it looks more polished since I last saw it. |
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