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00:58 bshum @later tell nuentoter If you're encountering that issue with PG 9.4, I'm sure it's cause Debian Jessie support for Evergreen is incomplete presently. It'll be better during the next round of maintenance releases next month.
00:58 pinesol_green bshum: The operation succeeded.
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08:53 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen. Happy Friday!
09:09 gmcharlt applying a security update to the eg-ils.org WP instance
09:26 jeff kmlussier: good morning!
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10:29 bshum Construction again?
10:30 bshum kmlussier: mllewellyn's post on Facebook for the conference.
10:32 kmlussier Ugh.
10:32 kmlussier Well, we actually got a benefit from the hotel last year due to the unexpected construction. So maybe we can ask for something like that again. :)
10:33 kmlussier And it looks like it will be outside this time, so maybe not so much noise.
10:34 bshum Could be interesting though, walking from Gorge room to the other part and vice versa
10:34 bshum Since the main room is separate building outside. I think.
10:34 bshum We just have great timing :)
10:37 * Dyrcona shouts "YAOUS!" and runs for the exit.
10:39 kmlussier @love YAOUS
10:39 pinesol_green kmlussier: But kmlussier already loves YAOUS!
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10:44 Dyrcona @karma YAOUS
10:44 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Karma for "YAOUS" has been increased 5 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 1.
10:47 kmlussier YAOUS++
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11:33 dbs gmcharlt: you could make that IRC message a daily cron job, given WP's record recently
11:33 gmcharlt dbs: I've been tempted to do exactly that :/
11:38 Dyrcona Only recently?
11:40 jeff moreso recently.
11:40 dbs Dyrcona: the frequency seems a little bit more intense recently
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12:14 kmlussier @weather 02771
12:14 pinesol_green kmlussier: The current temperature in Rumford, East Providence, Rhode Island is 78.8°F (12:10 PM EDT on May 08, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
12:15 kmlussier I think I might eat my lunch on the back step today. Instead of my usual eat-while-still-working-at-my-computer routine.
12:15 kmlussier @weather 97031
12:15 pinesol_green kmlussier: The current temperature in Rockford, Hood River, Oregon is 62.4°F (9:02 AM PDT on May 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
12:21 jboyer-isl But soft, what light through yonder window breaks, it's a CVE and it is Wordpress that is effected. Uh, look, maybe it's time we started to see other people.
12:24 berick jboyer-isl++
12:29 jeff @weather ktvc
12:29 pinesol_green jeff: The current temperature in Traverse City, Michigan is 80.6°F (11:53 AM EDT on May 08, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
12:29 jeff it was 89°F yesterday.
12:29 jeff we skipped spring, apparently
12:29 berick @weather 27712
12:29 pinesol_green berick: The current temperature in Heritage Heights, Durham, North Carolina is 79.5°F (12:21 PM EDT on May 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
12:30 berick how is it cooler here?
12:30 berick well, ok, the same
12:33 Dyrcona @weather 01845
12:33 pinesol_green Dyrcona: The current temperature in WB1CHU, Lawrence, Massachusetts is 57.9°F (12:33 PM EDT on May 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
12:33 kmlussier jeff: We rarely ever have spring here.
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12:54 rjackson_isl jeff I will be up your way next week on a short vacation. It is supposed to be more seasonable then. Sleeping Bear Dunes here we come! :-)
12:54 jeff excellent.
12:55 rjackson_isl can't wait - beautiful country there
12:55 jeff i will be at the conference next week
12:56 rjackson_isl and some nice scenery there as well!
12:57 rjackson_isl probably have to stop by Sleder's while I am up north!
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13:15 mmorgan electricity++
13:16 Dyrcona heh
13:16 mmorgan Never more appreciated than when you don't have it :-(
13:21 kmlussier mmorgan: You're back up!
13:22 Bmagic im getting a weird error when checking out some items. I have ruled permissions out. Does this log entry mean anything? No active transaction -- required for CREATE
13:23 tsbere That....seems odd. Only for some items?
13:23 mmorgan kmlussier: No, sadly. We fled when the ups ran out.
13:23 kmlussier mmorgan: Ah. So you're working from home now?
13:24 mmorgan Trying to.
13:24 Bmagic tsbere: yeah, items from one location
13:24 tsbere One copy location or one org unit?
13:24 Bmagic I register my workstation at this location, grab a book from the database circ_lib is equal
13:24 tsbere Or, I suppose, "one workstation" where others are fine?
13:25 Bmagic fail
13:26 Dyrcona Bmagic: Is this a report that you got from the library, or does it only happen for you when registered at the location?
13:26 Bmagic I am able to replicate it
13:27 Bmagic http://pastebin.com/hRYxN0qg
13:27 Bmagic circ due data / close date overlap ?
13:29 tsbere "No request was received in 6 seconds, exiting stateful session" - I assume your session is timing out, causing your cstoreeditor to no longer have a transaction, which is causing the error
13:30 Bmagic what's with the timeout?
13:31 * bshum has never seen a timeout for checkout.
13:31 bshum Checkin on the other hand...
13:32 tsbere excessive overlapping closed dates?
13:33 Bmagic hmmm, libarary hours? actor.org_unit_closed?
13:33 tsbere Both?
13:33 Dyrcona Bmagic: Is it taking over 6 seconds to process the transaction?
13:33 Dyrcona The logs make it appear so.
13:34 Bmagic "2015-05-25 00:00:00-05";"2015-05-25 23:59:59-05";"Memorial Day"
13:36 Bmagic hmmm, this branch isn't normally open on mondays anyway
13:37 Bmagic so, making the memorial day closure is redundant, would that fool the system?
13:37 tsbere Bmagic: How many days *after* that are closed as well, by hours or otherwise, for the branch?
13:37 tsbere The issue could be walking forward to find when the next "open" day for the branch is taking too long
13:38 Bmagic They wont be open again until thursday May 28th
13:38 Dyrcona Bmagic: In your logs, 47023 is the "client" making the circ calls. 2741 is the cstore drone responding. 2769 is a storage drone handling the closed date overlap check.
13:39 Dyrcona If you look at the logs, you'll 2741 processes a request at 12:20:59, then 47023 requests the overlap closed dates call.
13:39 Dyrcona At 12:21:06, 2741 spits out the no request received in 6 seconds.
13:39 Bmagic ok, well, deleting the closure for Memorial day fixed it!
13:40 Dyrcona OK, but I wasn't finished. ;)
13:40 Bmagic lol
13:40 Dyrcona But, it you look at the logs real close, you can see the problem.
13:40 Dyrcona s/it/if/
13:40 Bmagic I saw circ due data / close date overlap
13:40 Dyrcona So, at 12:21:11 the storage drone came back with the closed date reply.
13:41 Dyrcona It took 11 seconds for that call.
13:41 Dyrcona So, the cstore timed out in the meantime.
13:41 Bmagic due_date=2015-05-29T12:20:59-0500 start=2015-05-25T12:20:59-05:00, end=2015-06-02T12:20:59-05:00
13:41 Bmagic right, I see
13:41 Bmagic so, MOAR CPU
13:41 * berick thinks maybe that call needs to be put into a stored proc so cstore can call it directly
13:41 Bmagic or the code to unwind that mess wasn't effiecient
13:42 berick of course, it shoudn't take 11 seconds, regardles
13:42 Dyrcona Well, that call could be looked at to see if it can be made more efficient.
13:42 Dyrcona berick++
13:42 Dyrcona If removing a closed date helped, you probably triggered some pathological condition in the code.
13:43 Dyrcona I say open a Launchpad bug and attach the log to it.
13:53 Bmagic Dyrcona++
13:53 Bmagic tsbere++
13:56 Dyrcona Well, leavin' early today to pick my daughter up after school.
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16:19 kmlussier mmorgan: Any juice yet?
16:23 mmorgan No signs of it yet.
16:23 mmorgan Sounds like it was going to be a pretty big operation to fix.
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16:42 mmorgan *sigh* Think I broke webby.
16:43 * mmorgan should not touch anything else today.
16:44 * mmorgan peruses launchpad. Stuff there is already broken ;-)
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16:52 Stompro My wife just told me I just missed a call from "Microsoft" looking to update my computer, I love talking to those guys, I'm sad I missed it.
16:59 mmorgan Oh, those "Microsoft" guys really annoy me.
17:02 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
17:06 buzzy soon ... https://twitter.com/Evergreen​ILS/status/596782856396869632
17:07 Stompro buzzy++, first use of the #evgils15 tag, I've been waiting for it to turn up.
17:10 kmlussier I've opened up voting for which cookies I should make for the MassLNC development partners. More details here https://plus.google.com/+Kat​hyLussier/posts/PCk6Ya3Zivs
17:10 kmlussier Oops, need to make that post public
17:13 berick the tweet should have just been "first.  #evgils15"
17:14 kmlussier buzzy++ Nice program!
17:14 kmlussier New link for voting on cookies - https://plus.google.com/+Kat​hyLussier/posts/Aa9EeXc95wX
17:18 jeffdavis Is anyone using Shibboleth with EG?
17:19 jonadab Stompro, mmorgan: Heh, I was going to have fun with one of those guys, but he hung up on me.
17:19 jonadab (He asked if I was sitting at the computer, and I said, "Yeah, well, at one of them", and he asked how many computers I have, and I started listing them off...)
17:21 buzzy thanks! they turned out well at this point, i;m just glad that we got them on time and in decent shape.
17:22 buzzy berick: yeah ...
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22:14 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] LP#1445150: Symlink for 000.english.pg94.fts-config.sql - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9953f1a>
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23:11 bshum nuentoter: I left you a later message regarding your question from the other night on PostgreSQL 9.4.  I was guessing you have been trying to install Evergreen (some version 2.7+) on Debian Jessie.
23:12 bshum nuentoter: Jessie comes with PG 9.4 by default, but we only just recently pushed a series of patches to deal with the dependency issues on Jessie.
23:13 bshum Once we package new maintenance releases later this month, I expect that it'll be smoother sailing for installation on Debian Jessie.
23:15 nuentoter ok
23:15 nuentoter so for me to have a better installation experience right now would you recommend wheezy?
23:16 bshum nuentoter: For Debian, yes, I believe Wheezy has been better tested by different folks who use Debian.
23:16 bshum I personally use Ubuntu primarily.  So I'll caveat that I've only lightly tested Debians.
23:16 bshum Though I know others can speak for Debian
23:17 nuentoter most of my linux experience up until now has only been for very basic things on someones computer running crunchbang which is slick but technical
23:17 nuentoter i used ubuntu for a few years about 6-7 years ago for work
23:25 nuentoter ok so tonight i shall download wheezy and resume working on installing of jessie after you folks update
23:25 nuentoter It will only help me familiarize myself

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