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IRC log for #evergreen, 2015-04-28

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05:19 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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08:31 kmlussier Good morning #evergreen
08:32 kmlussier @coffee [someone]
08:32 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Colombia Tolima Reynel Perez Micro-Lot, and sends it sliding down the bar to rjackson_isl
08:32 rjackson_isl sounds interesting!
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09:00 gmcharlt @coffee [someone]
09:01 gmcharlt oh dear
09:01 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Yirgacheffe, and sends it sliding down the bar to eby
09:01 gmcharlt *phew*
09:02 tsbere Perhaps the bot needs morning coffee. ;)
09:02 eby already brewed some india monsooned malabar
09:03 gmcharlt @coffee pinesol_green
09:03 * pinesol_green brews and pours a cup of Kenya Bourbon French Mission, and sends it sliding down the bar to pinesol_green
09:06 kmlussier pinesol_green: WAKE UP!
09:06 pinesol_green kmlussier: Mr. Spock: Something fascinating just happened.
09:06 kmlussier Appears to be awake now.
09:13 kmlussier At last week's dev meeting, there was a brief mention that we need an RM for 2.next. But did we settle on a course of action?
09:13 * kmlussier supposes she could read the log.
09:16 * kmlussier reads the logs and confirms that we didn't settle on a course of action.
09:16 gmcharlt hmm - something that can be finalized at the conference, I think
09:17 kmlussier It's a late conference this year.
09:17 gmcharlt but only three weeks away
09:17 gmcharlt (also... EEEK!)
09:17 kmlussier yeah
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10:00 * mmorgan is interested in the answer to StomproJosh's question on the list.
10:01 * mmorgan can't provide the answer, unfortunately :-(
10:07 kmlussier tsbere: Didn't you all do something with opt-in settings for patron notifications?
10:07 tsbere kmlussier: I believe we did.
10:09 kmlussier tsbere: I thought so. I didn't know if you would have any insight to offer for the question StomproJ sent to the list yesterday.
10:09 * berick throws his hat in the ring, too
10:10 * tsbere will write up a quick list
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11:50 csharp @quote random
11:50 pinesol_green csharp: Quote #93: "< RoganH> Coffee is like religion, don't judge, just accept that people are different even if you will never understand it." (added by csharp at 10:20 AM, September 23, 2014)
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11:55 kmlussier Heh
11:55 kmlussier RoganH++
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12:11 berick curious if anyone else would be interested in a way to allow checkout of copies in certain statuses without the staff client warning dialog / need to override the checkout.
12:12 kmlussier Like missing items?
12:13 berick in spirit, yes, but there may be more layers invovled with missing items specifically I'm not thinking of though
12:13 kmlussier berick: This might not be what you're thinking of, but ESI is doing this for us - http://masslnc.cwmars.org/node/2764#AL-03​:_Library_Setting_for_Some_System_Alerts
12:14 kmlussier But it's something that will be developed for the web client only.
12:14 csharp berick: what's the use case prompting your question?
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12:15 eeevil kmlussier / berick: without more specific use cases, I think the alert suppression part of that linked stuff will impact what berick's talking about
12:15 eeevil s/use cases/use cases I can't be sure, but/
12:16 berick so we do this thing w/ new branches where we put the copy into a local, non-holdable copy status called "grand opening".  it's basically "dibs" for people who go to the branch.  once it's checked out once, it's just like any other copy.  the rub is the warning dialog and override requirement.
12:18 eeevil ah ... that's not directly covered, but it could be a natural extension of the planned implementation
12:20 berick eeevil: that's encouraging.  is there a bug entry for that yet?
12:21 berick or specs
12:21 eeevil berick: if your timeline allows, we can collab so as to avoid me painting your use case out, instead of having a separate, layered "ignore these situations" function
12:21 * kmlussier mumbles something about responding to an email so that ESI can share specs on the project.
12:21 eeevil no bug yet. tech specs are having some rough edges filed off, and then we'll bug it
12:21 eeevil kmlussier++
12:22 berick one question i need to ask internally is whether the requirement to override (even if it happens magically under the covers) is OK.  /me will look into that
12:22 berick .. as I'm assuming that's what will happen based on kmlussier's docs
12:22 eeevil berick: the main thematic difference is we're concerned with specific "from" statuses, and I could see you generalizing that part
12:23 berick right
12:23 eeevil and, yes, the override may still happen, and be magic.
12:23 eeevil as in $method . ".override"
12:24 berick ok, good, thanks for confirming
12:29 mmorgan berick: we have a similar situation with an "On Display" status that some libraries use for new items. Not having to override there would be helpful
12:29 berick mmorgan: good to know.  that sounds very similar, indeed
12:32 * tsbere figured a temporary copy location would work better than a temporary status, if only for opac visbility purposes on Display items, but hasn't actually implemented his idea for temporary copy locations
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14:14 csharp trying to figure out if this is something we're doing wrong or if it's actually hard/impossible (related to Leslie St. John's General list email)...
14:14 csharp we need vandelay to remove $ characters from the price fields when importing bibs
14:15 csharp does the "Remove" field in Cataloging -> MARC Batch Import/Export -> Record Display Attributes do that?
14:16 csharp if so, we currently have the value "$" in that field for "price" (020 or 022 $c)
14:16 csharp and it's not removing the $
14:17 csharp I thought it was worth asking before diving into the perl to see what's going on
14:20 * csharp dives in and hopes for the best
14:20 jboyer-isl csharp: If that will work, you'll likely have to use \$ because it looks like it's expecting regex syntax, where $ is special.
14:22 berick csharp: record display attributes only affect display :(
14:22 csharp it makes sense to me that it would be regexp syntax, and I'm told that was tried and didn't work, but I'll test it myself
14:22 csharp berick: ah
14:23 csharp hmm - so the acq code expects *no* dollar sign, but the file has them - is there a way to remove them within EG? or would that have to be done externally?
14:23 csharp well, specifically, the DB rejects the '$' character as non-numeric
14:23 csharp so I guess the acq code doesn't know or care
14:24 berick code would have to be added to make that happen within ACQ
14:27 * tsbere loves the vendor "But other <ils> customers have no issues" response - Half the time I get a list of those "other customers" I find they aren't using Evergreen.
14:27 berick acq being what it is, there are a number of vendor-specific hacks in the acq code.  adding one to strip '$' from the price field does not seem crazy.
14:28 tsbere Of course, then there are the vendors that say "But other <ils> customers have no issues" with <ils> *not* being Evergreen. At which point I get to say "That is all well and good. We are using Evergreen, not <other ils>" >_>
14:28 berick or strip all non-numbers
15:26 * csharp creates bug 1449724
15:26 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1449724 in Evergreen "Acq Record Import Fails because of dollar sign in price field" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449724
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