| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 04:08 |
|
sarabee joined #evergreen |
| 05:57 |
|
gsams joined #evergreen |
| 07:53 |
|
mrpeters joined #evergreen |
| 08:00 |
|
Newziky joined #evergreen |
| 08:10 |
|
collum joined #evergreen |
| 08:11 |
|
rjackson_isl joined #evergreen |
| 08:34 |
|
mmorgan joined #evergreen |
| 08:45 |
|
ericar joined #evergreen |
| 08:46 |
|
graced joined #evergreen |
| 08:50 |
kmlussier |
@coffee |
| 08:50 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Kenya AA Nyeri Fine Cup, and sends it sliding down the bar to kmlussier |
| 08:51 |
kmlussier |
good morning #evergreen |
| 08:55 |
mmorgan |
Good Morning! |
| 08:55 |
kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
| 08:55 |
* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of BH02: Holy Basil Purple Leaf, and sends it sliding down the bar to remingtron (http://ratetea.com/tea/upton/bh02-holy-basil-purple-leaf/1937/) |
| 08:55 |
* kmlussier |
wonders why pinesol_green serves coffee and tea at a bar. |
| 08:56 |
jboyer-isl |
Classy bar or tea dive? |
| 08:56 |
|
jwoodard joined #evergreen |
| 08:59 |
|
Newziky1 joined #evergreen |
| 09:00 |
|
Dyrcona joined #evergreen |
| 09:00 |
remingtron |
jboyer-isl: would I be found in a tea dive? I think not! Well, maybe. |
| 09:01 |
jboyer-isl |
I would actually very much like to see such a thing as a tea dive, though perhaps only once. |
| 09:02 |
remingtron |
kmlussier: thanks for the tea, I always drink Holy teas near Easter. |
| 09:04 |
kmlussier |
I picture a darkened room, a person with his/her head lying on the bar, begging for just one more cup of Earl Grey. |
| 09:05 |
jeff |
huh. i guessed that tea would be one from Upton Tea Imports (aside from the url having "upton" in it, which was a pretty big clue). |
| 09:06 |
jeff |
(the prefix/code before the name was what gave it away) |
| 09:06 |
jeff |
http://ratetea.com/search/?only=tea&brand_id=1 |
| 09:07 |
kmlussier |
Tea made with basil doesn't sound appealing to me. |
| 09:08 |
dbwells |
Review from that site for this tea, "it reminds me of the smell of books". It was stated as a good thing :) |
| 09:10 |
Dyrcona |
@blame ejabberd |
| 09:10 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Your failure is now complete, ejabberd. |
| 09:21 |
|
jlundgren joined #evergreen |
| 09:36 |
jboyer-isl |
kmlussier, re: 09:04:43, "Gimmie the one with bergi, bergimi, berger... bergamot. Double." |
| 09:38 |
kmlussier |
jboyer-isl: Ha ha. I suspect you weren't being totally honest when you said you hadn't been to a tea dive before. |
| 09:39 |
|
akilsdonk joined #evergreen |
| 09:41 |
|
maryj joined #evergreen |
| 09:41 |
jboyer-isl |
No tea dives yet, just dive dives. They're usually... not my cup of tea. |
| 09:41 |
Dyrcona |
I'll have a scotch on the rocks. My friend takes his neat. |
| 09:44 |
bshum |
:D |
| 09:44 |
Dyrcona |
Heh. Thought you'd get it. :) |
| 09:45 |
csharp |
now we need to find a tea dive in Hood River |
| 09:46 |
csharp |
for us teetotalers to get our drink on |
| 09:46 |
csharp |
teatotalers! |
| 09:46 |
Dyrcona |
You mean teatotalers? |
| 09:46 |
csharp |
jynx! |
| 09:47 |
collum |
https://www.facebook.com/thegoodmedicinelounge |
| 09:47 |
* csharp |
quickly trademarks the name and makes millions |
| 09:47 |
Dyrcona |
I don't drink Earl Grey any more for....digestive reasons. Begamot apparently doesn't agree with me. |
| 09:47 |
csharp |
collum++ |
| 09:47 |
* csharp |
likes Earl Grey, Hot |
| 09:51 |
kmlussier |
collum++ |
| 09:52 |
kmlussier |
I would be up for a trip to the tea room. |
| 09:52 |
collum |
ditto |
| 10:13 |
|
darshana joined #evergreen |
| 10:16 |
|
yboston joined #evergreen |
| 10:28 |
|
mllewellyn joined #evergreen |
| 10:31 |
|
Shae joined #evergreen |
| 11:00 |
eeevil |
csharp: so, I was thinking about your "all books" filter, and it looks like you're not using the new, stock composite record attr def for "books". in your example, QP is seeing item_type(a,t) but should be seeing search_format(book) ... so, either I'm misunderstanding the question or there's something configuration-based going on |
| 11:03 |
|
TaraC joined #evergreen |
| 11:04 |
csharp |
eeevil: is there a table I can dump out and share with you to verify? |
| 11:06 |
eeevil |
not just one. it's ... complicated in the back end :) ... are you familiar with http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.6/_marc_record_attributes.html ? |
| 11:07 |
eeevil |
the UI looks like it wants to use the right thing, but it's getting mapped away somehow, maybe. local customization? but ... I have to run for a while |
| 11:10 |
csharp |
eeevil: thanks for the hint - yes Elaine and I did some customization that may be getting in the way - I'll review it and get back to you |
| 11:22 |
csharp |
eeevil: I'll add a 'book' example query to the ticket too |
| 11:22 |
csharp |
s/ticket/bug report/ |
| 11:27 |
csharp |
okay - added comment & attachment to bug 1438136 |
| 11:27 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1438136 in Evergreen "OPAC searching significantly slowed by adding format filters" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438136 |
| 11:37 |
|
sandbergja joined #evergreen |
| 11:49 |
kmlussier |
I need to fill out the acknowledgements info on the Release Notes - http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/release/RELEASE_NOTES_2_8.html. |
| 11:49 |
kmlussier |
I need help for the second on organizations that commissioned development. |
| 11:49 |
kmlussier |
I know MassLNC and C/W MARS commissioned development projects that made it into 2.8. |
| 11:50 |
kmlussier |
If anyone else worked on a contracted development project that made it into 2.8, could you let me know who should receive the credit for commissioning the development? |
| 11:52 |
bshum |
Hmm |
| 11:53 |
kmlussier |
Oh, and Georgia PINES should be there too. |
| 11:54 |
|
ningalls joined #evergreen |
| 12:06 |
|
jihpringle joined #evergreen |
| 12:09 |
berick |
kmlussier: KCLS (via me) did the 2.3.1. Vandelay Authority Record Match Sets |
| 12:11 |
kmlussier |
berick: Thanks. I'll inlcude KCLS in the section for organizations whose employees contributed patches. |
| 12:12 |
kmlussier |
I've got most of those orgs nailed down because it's easy to find the dev who did the work. Not so easy to find project funders. |
| 12:12 |
berick |
ah, gotcha |
| 12:12 |
berick |
thanks |
| 12:12 |
* kmlussier |
doesn't think there was much commissioned development for 2.8 |
| 12:16 |
|
bmills joined #evergreen |
| 12:26 |
berick |
hmm, need to bump all the 2.8.0 LP tix |
| 12:27 |
berick |
i forget, is there an auotmated way to do that? |
| 12:27 |
bshum |
Not really. |
| 12:27 |
bshum |
Though there is an LP account used for changing statuses, etc. |
| 12:27 |
graced |
NC kmlussier: Cardinal had commissioned work |
| 12:27 |
kmlussier |
graced: Thanks! |
| 12:28 |
graced |
do you need LP links? |
| 12:28 |
bshum |
berick: I can help you take care of it, if it'd be helpful. |
| 12:29 |
kmlussier |
graced: I don't need them for the release notes, but I'm always curious about what work was commissioned by different groups. :) |
| 12:29 |
graced |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1378169 |
| 12:29 |
graced |
and |
| 12:29 |
graced |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1287370 |
| 12:29 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1378169 in Evergreen "The context OU selector in funds management should be sticky" (affected: 2, heat: 12) [Wishlist,Fix committed] |
| 12:29 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1287370 in Evergreen "Funds Go Back Option Takes User Back to the First Fund Screen" (affected: 5, heat: 26) [Low,Fix committed] |
| 12:29 |
kmlussier |
Just because I'm nosy |
| 12:30 |
berick |
bshum: looks like there's only 3 open tickets for 2.8.0. i'll just move them. |
| 12:30 |
berick |
thanks, though |
| 12:30 |
bshum |
Sounds good. |
| 12:31 |
* kmlussier |
now realizes there is also a new feature missing from the release notes. |
| 12:31 |
kmlussier |
Of course, it was one I signed off on, so I should have caught nearly 2 months ago. |
| 12:33 |
bshum |
berick: I'm moving a few of the bugs left at 2.8-beta that didn't get worked on to either 2.next or 2.8.1 (if they're looking like bugfixes) |
| 12:34 |
csharp |
general philosophical question to the channel: should we start considering C compiler warnings as individual bug reports? discuss |
| 12:35 |
bshum |
csharp: I'm going to respond with "eh?" and wonder what warnings you mean : |
| 12:35 |
bshum |
:) |
| 12:35 |
csharp |
having just spent the better part of two hours trying to get dpkg-buildpackage to not treat format-security warnings as fatal errors, that question is on my mind ;-) |
| 12:36 |
berick |
thanks, bshum |
| 12:36 |
csharp |
example (that I'm pasting in channel, yes) |
| 12:36 |
csharp |
utils.c:133:2: error: format not a string literal and no format arguments [-Werror=format-security] return snprintf( *(global_argv), global_argv_size, VA_BUF ); ^ |
| 12:36 |
csharp |
ah - that came out as one line here ;-) |
| 12:37 |
csharp |
that particular warning is from building OpenSRF on Ubuntu 14.04 |
| 12:37 |
csharp |
gcc 4.8.2 |
| 12:39 |
csharp |
for the logs/the curious, I was able to circumvent the fatality of those errors by adding 'export DEB_CFLAGS_MAINT_APPEND= -Wno-error=format-security' to my debian rules file |
| 12:39 |
csharp |
but the real solution would be to fix the causes of the warnings |
| 12:44 |
bshum |
berick: Since I'm in there, I'm also updating statuses from fix committed to fix released using the bugmaster account now. |
| 12:45 |
berick |
bshum++ |
| 12:48 |
bshum |
csharp: In general, I think if you've got some suggestions on how to address some of those warnings/errors you're seeing, it doesn't hurt to add them as LP tickets and target them towards the next OpenSRF milestones for review. |
| 12:48 |
bshum |
Or at the very least, noting them for further scrutiny by smarter folks than I :) |
| 12:53 |
kmlussier |
berick/dbwells: While I'm in the Release Notes, do we need to say anything there about the changes to the fine generator? |
| 12:53 |
csharp |
yeah, I think I'll start a couple o' tickets on 'em |
| 12:53 |
* csharp |
has a feeling they'll be more urgent when jessie is released |
| 12:53 |
bshum |
Which is soon I hear. |
| 12:54 |
bshum |
April 25 - https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html |
| 12:54 |
dbwells |
kmlussier: I don't think so. There should be no change in functionality. |
| 12:54 |
berick |
kmlussier: well, ideally, no one would ever know it changed. |
| 12:54 |
berick |
jinx |
| 12:55 |
csharp |
big changes in installation instructions for jessie - new-style ejabberd config, for one |
| 12:56 |
* csharp |
started a branch with README changes, originally based on Fedora 21, but ejabberd is utterly broken out of the box on Fedora http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/OpenSRF.git;a=blobdiff;f=README;h=cc81d4492bd9f1aed2cded23666254b7fa12cfbe;hp=38aff45713816207e2607afe4b1dfdb8efdf7f52;hb=e5ff2480d51feffee388e52104c2c592d37205d3;hpb=2cf93448e2ba2540b7fc3ea2f939f62621488420 |
| 12:56 |
pinesol_green |
[opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1418613 per-tab websocket send() JS thinko repair - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=2cf9344> |
| 12:57 |
kmlussier |
dbwells / berick: OK, thanks |
| 12:58 |
bshum |
csharp: Did you say Fedora, but mean Jessie? Or do you mean Jessie also has newer ejabberd packaged with it, like Fedora's? |
| 12:58 |
* bshum |
knows that initial makefile stuff was pushed for Jessie, but hasn't watched it closely since he doesn't use Debian. |
| 12:59 |
csharp |
bshum: jessie also has the newer YML-based config, like Fedora |
| 12:59 |
csharp |
but jessie's ejabberd appeared to work fine in my scant testing |
| 12:59 |
csharp |
s/YML/YAML/ |
| 13:05 |
bshum |
Okay, done bug wrangling for now. |
| 13:06 |
|
ericar joined #evergreen |
| 13:13 |
|
b_bonner joined #evergreen |
| 13:14 |
|
rashma joined #evergreen |
| 13:15 |
kmlussier |
I'm confused. I see a commit for the creation of RELEASE_NOTES_2_8.txt, but I don't see the actual file. |
| 13:16 |
kmlussier |
Oh, I see. It's in the 2_8 branch, but not in master. |
| 13:16 |
csharp |
@praise [someone] |
| 13:16 |
* pinesol_green |
jboyer-isl is kind and patient to newbies |
| 13:17 |
csharp |
@dessert [someone] |
| 13:17 |
* pinesol_green |
grabs some wild Alaskan rhubarb pie for yboston |
| 13:17 |
jboyer-isl |
Until the velvet glove of patience is removed, then it's iron fist, noob. |
| 13:17 |
csharp |
jboyer-isl: haha |
| 13:19 |
* csharp |
is reminded of the "Stonecutters" Simpsons episode: "Remove the Stone of Shame! Attach the Stone of Triumph!" |
| 13:20 |
* jboyer-isl |
needs to watch more Simpsons. Long has been the drought. |
| 13:21 |
kmlussier |
berick: Should bab547295d1fd77b7db09108af02ac563f4ab1df go into master too? |
| 13:21 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] 2.8 release notes creation and cleanup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=bab5472> |
| 13:21 |
csharp |
jboyer-isl: my Simpsons devotion ended nearly 20 years ago, but I own the seasons love and watch them very often |
| 13:21 |
csharp |
s/seasons love/seasons *I* love/ |
| 13:22 |
csharp |
they got a bit unmoored in the mid- to late 90s and I never really watched them after that |
| 13:24 |
berick |
kmlussier: hmm, yes. thanks. will merge... |
| 13:24 |
kmlussier |
berick++ #Thanks! |
| 13:25 |
|
buzzy joined #evergreen |
| 13:40 |
eeevil |
csharp: re your compiler warning, that's how we rewrite the process title for top/ps ... we could look for other ways to do it, maybe, but it's "considered safe" in the context we use it (we control the strings -- it would take a malicious installation to exploit) |
| 13:41 |
eeevil |
in which case, you have bigger issues ;) |
| 13:46 |
csharp |
eeevil: makes sense |
| 13:47 |
csharp |
the CFLAGS for debian package building add -Werror=format-security, so that's why it was breaking when trying to build a deb |
| 13:53 |
jboyer-isl |
Sounds like a good use for #pragma diagnostic push / ignore=format-security / pop : https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Diagnostic-Pragmas.html#Diagnostic-Pragmas (on GCC at least... do any other supported OSs use Clang or PCC?) |
| 13:53 |
kmlussier |
Heh, we're still getting paxed in our Release Notes acknowledgements. :) |
| 13:53 |
csharp |
paxed++ |
| 13:53 |
bshum |
paxed++ |
| 13:54 |
jeff |
goes to show, bugs you report can have lasting impact! :-) |
| 13:56 |
paxed |
hah |
| 13:57 |
|
rsoulliere joined #evergreen |
| 13:57 |
yboston |
heads up, the DIG monthly meeting will be starting at 2 PM EST |
| 13:58 |
paxed |
oh, and just as a note: for GCC, "all" in -Wall does not actually mean all... |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
#startmeeting DIG Monthly Meeting Evergreen Documentation Interest Group (DIG) Monthly Meeting. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting started Thu Apr 2 14:00:31 2015 US/Eastern. The chair is yboston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'dig_monthly_meeting_evergreen_documentation_interest_group__dig__monthly_meeting_' |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
The agenda can be found here http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meeting_20150402-agenda |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
#topic Introductions |
| 14:00 |
yboston |
Please feel free to start introducing yourselves... |
| 14:01 |
yboston |
#info yboston is Yamil Suarez @ Berklee College of Music - DIG meeting facilitator |
| 14:01 |
rsoulliere |
#info rsoulliere is Robert Soulliere, Mohawk College |
| 14:02 |
jihpringle |
info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka) |
| 14:02 |
kmlussier |
#info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
| 14:02 |
jihpringle |
#info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka) |
| 14:03 |
yboston |
welcome everyone |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
Robert or Kathy, do either of you have anything to report? |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
it is OK if you don't |
| 14:04 |
kmlussier |
I do |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
go ahea |
| 14:04 |
yboston |
*ahead |
| 14:04 |
kmlussier |
#topic Release Coordinator Report |
| 14:04 |
kmlussier |
#info I am adding acknowledgements plus one missing feature to the Release Notes as we meet |
| 14:05 |
kmlussier |
#info The 2.8 Release Notes should be complete by the end of today. |
| 14:05 |
kmlussier |
End of report |
| 14:05 |
kmlussier |
Oh, I do have something else. |
| 14:05 |
yboston |
BTW, Kathy do you have any doceumntation ont he process of making the release ntoes? |
| 14:06 |
kmlussier |
There has been some talk among the devs of possibly doing release notes for point releases. That's something I might like to consider doing if I have time for the 2.8 point releases. |
| 14:06 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] 2.8 release notes creation and cleanup - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=eee6a71> |
| 14:06 |
kmlussier |
yboston: No, I don't have documentation. Is this documentation for devs who are writing release note entries? |
| 14:06 |
kmlussier |
Ha, nice timing berick |
| 14:06 |
yboston |
no, for the documentation side |
| 14:06 |
yboston |
in case you ever need a sub |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
or help |
| 14:07 |
kmlussier |
No, I don't have documentation because, as long as the devs do their release notes, I don't do much other than read them for clarity and add acknowledgements. |
| 14:07 |
kmlussier |
I do go through the ChangeLog to make sure everything is there. |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
OK |
| 14:07 |
kmlussier |
I can add something to the wiki, though. |
| 14:07 |
yboston |
I thought it was more involved |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
if you have the time, even a high level overview could be helpful |
| 14:08 |
kmlussier |
No, I think what the RM does is a little more involved. |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
yes, I agree |
| 14:08 |
kmlussier |
In terms of generating the Release Notes, that is. |
| 14:08 |
yboston |
Robert did you want to mention anything? |
| 14:08 |
rsoulliere |
I have a couple of items. |
| 14:09 |
yboston |
go ahead |
| 14:09 |
rsoulliere |
#topic Conversion Coordinator Report |
| 14:09 |
rsoulliere |
#info Evergree Documentation for 2.8 is up and pulling for the rel_2_8 branch. |
| 14:09 |
rsoulliere |
#link http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.8/ |
| 14:09 |
kmlussier |
rsoulliere++ |
| 14:09 |
rsoulliere |
#info I have updated the 2_8 repository to include the 2.8 release notes. |
| 14:09 |
yboston |
rsoulliere++ |
| 14:09 |
rsoulliere |
#info I have also added the 2.8 database schema documentation. |
| 14:10 |
rsoulliere |
#info Links have been added to the documentaiton menu page: |
| 14:10 |
rsoulliere |
#link http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/ |
| 14:10 |
rsoulliere |
#questions any updates on the new doc servers? |
| 14:11 |
yboston |
I think the web group met yesterday |
| 14:11 |
yboston |
and they mentioned that they have an IP address and that thet need to still create the VM |
| 14:12 |
yboston |
kmlussier: where you at the meeting yesterday? |
| 14:12 |
kmlussier |
yes |
| 14:12 |
yboston |
am I remembering correctly that you know of? |
| 14:12 |
kmlussier |
Yes, that's what gmcharlt reported |
| 14:13 |
yboston |
kmlussier: thanks |
| 14:13 |
yboston |
I can follow up for next time to see what the progress is |
| 14:13 |
yboston |
#action yboston will check in on DIG VM |
| 14:13 |
rsoulliere |
OK, sounds good. That is all I had for today. |
| 14:14 |
yboston |
thanks |
| 14:14 |
yboston |
I will move on to past meetign action items |
| 14:14 |
yboston |
#topic past meeting action items |
| 14:14 |
yboston |
#info 1 ) yboston will reach out to krvmga for another copy of his docs to push to master |
| 14:15 |
yboston |
I did not get a chance to do this, will defer for next time |
| 14:15 |
yboston |
#info 2 ) kmlussier will complete the marc stream importer work and check on the status of the RDA docs |
| 14:15 |
yboston |
kmlussier: any updates ont his? |
| 14:15 |
kmlussier |
I need to defer for next time. My plan is to create my own DIG day to work on my to-do list |
| 14:16 |
yboston |
OK |
| 14:16 |
yboston |
#action kmlussier will complete the marc stream importer work and check on the status of the RDA docs |
| 14:17 |
yboston |
the next two items were assigned to remingtron; but I am not sure if he is here? |
| 14:17 |
yboston |
will defer them for now |
| 14:17 |
yboston |
#action remingtron will send out email to list about cahnging the file suffix in the docs repo to .asciidoc |
| 14:17 |
yboston |
#action remingtron will send an email to the list to consider changing the AsciiDoc section header style |
| 14:18 |
yboston |
the next item was for the whole group |
| 14:18 |
yboston |
#info 5 ) all decide how to proceed with docs reorganization next meeting |
| 14:18 |
|
jck_ joined #evergreen |
| 14:18 |
yboston |
this might be a good topic of discussion at the conference |
| 14:18 |
remingtron |
#info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) |
| 14:18 |
remingtron |
(sorry so late) |
| 14:19 |
yboston |
hola |
| 14:19 |
remingtron |
may I give a quick update on my two action items? |
| 14:19 |
yboston |
not sure if you have read what we have gone over so far |
| 14:19 |
yboston |
go right ahead |
| 14:21 |
remingtron |
I have not initiated either of those conversations yet. I still plan to do the first, but not the second (header style syntax) since consensus was to allow individual choice, and I have come to agree |
| 14:21 |
yboston |
makes sense |
| 14:21 |
remingtron |
that's all I wanted to say :) |
| 14:22 |
yboston |
not sure how to cancel one for the defered actions with meetbot, but I on't think it is a big deal |
| 14:22 |
yboston |
thank remingtron |
| 14:23 |
yboston |
so right before remingtron joined us I had just brought up the topic of "5 ) all decide how to proceed with docs reorganization next meeting" |
| 14:23 |
yboston |
I had also mentioned this might be a good topic for the upcoming conference |
| 14:23 |
yboston |
any comments or questiosn about the re-org goal? |
| 14:24 |
kmlussier |
#info remingtron will NOT send email to the list to consider changing AsciiDoc section header because the consensus was to allow individual choice. |
| 14:24 |
kmlussier |
For the minutes. :) |
| 14:24 |
remingtron |
kmlussier++ |
| 14:25 |
yboston |
we can also defer the topic of the re-org for next meeting, if that is what we want to do as group today |
| 14:25 |
remingtron |
I created a wiki page with some re-org ideas here: |
| 14:25 |
remingtron |
#link http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:reorg_2014:audience_focused_layout |
| 14:26 |
kmlussier |
It seems like the in-person meeting is a great opportunity to discuss something like a doc reorg. |
| 14:26 |
remingtron |
I'd be glad for any input or reactions |
| 14:26 |
|
Newziky1 left #evergreen |
| 14:26 |
remingtron |
and FYI, I'm not able to attend the conference this year |
| 14:26 |
yboston |
we need to plan to have a laptop to stream the meeting for those that cannot make it |
| 14:27 |
remingtron |
so I'll do my best to participate remotely |
| 14:27 |
remingtron |
yboston: thanks! |
| 14:27 |
yboston |
or a phone on speaker phone |
| 14:27 |
yboston |
(de nada) |
| 14:27 |
yboston |
remingtron: that links looks pretty good |
| 14:28 |
yboston |
*link |
| 14:28 |
remingtron |
all are welcome to edit and expand that wiki page |
| 14:29 |
yboston |
should we stay ont his topic or move on? |
| 14:29 |
yboston |
the other two major topics arae web clients and EG 2.8 new feature docs |
| 14:30 |
remingtron |
I'm happy to move on |
| 14:30 |
yboston |
good enough for me |
| 14:31 |
yboston |
#topic Progress on documenting new features in Evergreen 2.8 |
| 14:31 |
yboston |
#link http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.8_needs |
| 14:32 |
kmlussier |
I got about half-way through my assigned topics. |
| 14:32 |
yboston |
we still have a few features that need documenting. |
| 14:32 |
yboston |
I just realized I signed up for a second feature I need to document |
| 14:32 |
kmlussier |
I decided to do a new section regarding all billing OU settings, so it became a bigger project than I originally intended. |
| 14:32 |
yboston |
I see |
| 14:33 |
yboston |
that is what happens when adding new features :) |
| 14:33 |
kmlussier |
I also could document most of the items in the OPAC section, but I didn't want to sign up until I had finished my first two items. :) |
| 14:33 |
yboston |
some of those OPAC ones could be really simple, and great for a beguiner |
| 14:33 |
kmlussier |
Two of them are mine, so I feel a responsibility to document them. |
| 14:34 |
kmlussier |
yboston: Yes, I agree. I was thinking they would be good for a beginner too. |
| 14:34 |
kmlussier |
In some cases, it may just require checking to see if a screenshot needs to be replaced. |
| 14:35 |
yboston |
worse case scenario, we can use this low hanging fruit to give to newcomers at the conference. Though I am sure we would rather be done with 2.8 beofre the conference |
| 14:36 |
yboston |
also, thanks to I think remingtron for sending out reminders aout 2.8 new features ont he list |
| 14:37 |
yboston |
#action all finish outstanding EG 2.8 features listed here http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.8_needs |
| 14:38 |
yboston |
should we switch to talking about web client docs? |
| 14:39 |
remingtron |
I have one comment |
| 14:39 |
remingtron |
(sorry, not paying close enough attention today!) |
| 14:39 |
yboston |
go ahead |
| 14:40 |
remingtron |
I realized that any time we don't document a feature on a given version, it's hard to remember to go back and work on those. |
| 14:40 |
rjackson_isl |
:q |
| 14:41 |
yboston |
remingtron: I agree |
| 14:41 |
remingtron |
I'd like to add a section at the bottom of the 2.8 docs needs wiki page called "From older versions" or such, which lists all outstanding docs features needing new docs |
| 14:41 |
remingtron |
thoughts? |
| 14:42 |
yboston |
I think it would be helpful |
| 14:43 |
kmlussier |
sure, why not? |
| 14:43 |
yboston |
though some of it would have to be moved over when we do the 2.9 page, though I don't think that is a problem |
| 14:43 |
remingtron |
okay, I'll work on that for 2.8 at least |
| 14:44 |
yboston |
should I make it an action item? |
| 14:44 |
remingtron |
then DIG can use that list at the conference for any outstanding items |
| 14:44 |
remingtron |
yboston: sure! |
| 14:44 |
yboston |
good idea |
| 14:45 |
yboston |
#action remingtron will add information of older outstanding doc needs to the 2.8 new feature doceumentation wiki page |
| 14:46 |
yboston |
any more questions/comments on EG 2.8 docs? |
| 14:47 |
yboston |
should we talk about the web client docs? |
| 14:47 |
remingtron |
sure, onward |
| 14:47 |
yboston |
thanks again to remingtron for sending out an email to remind folks to help reivew some web cleint ocs that were submitted |
| 14:47 |
yboston |
we should make that an "all" action item |
| 14:47 |
yboston |
for next meeting |
| 14:48 |
kmlussier |
Yes, I was just thinking of those. You can give that action item to me if you want. |
| 14:48 |
kmlussier |
And I promise I will follow through on that one. :) |
| 14:48 |
remingtron |
yboston: I'd put a higher priority on 2.8 docs, and suggest we wait on web client docs |
| 14:49 |
yboston |
remingtron: that makes sense; |
| 14:49 |
yboston |
we will have plenty of web client docs to work on at the conference |
| 14:49 |
remingtron |
but if kmlussier wants an action item, I will not stand in her way! |
| 14:50 |
kmlussier |
I just want to review the ones we have. |
| 14:50 |
yboston |
#action kmlussier will review submitted web client docs to be included in repository |
| 14:51 |
yboston |
any other comments or questions on the topic of web client docs or anything else? |
| 14:52 |
remingtron |
just the comment I added to the agenda |
| 14:52 |
remingtron |
that we no longer need to wait before backporting web client docs to live docs versions |
| 14:52 |
remingtron |
since ESI folks have published their remaining bugs on launchpad |
| 14:52 |
kmlussier |
We're backporting to 2.8 then? |
| 14:53 |
remingtron |
yes, for as much is included in 2.8, and then 2.9 as more comes outs, etc. |
| 14:54 |
remingtron |
though some have already been backported to 2.8 |
| 14:55 |
yboston |
we are talking about doc commits? |
| 14:56 |
remingtron |
yes |
| 14:56 |
yboston |
but are we keeping the seperate web client docs sections? |
| 14:56 |
remingtron |
yes, still a "preview" version of the docs until the web client is more official |
| 14:56 |
yboston |
just makign sure |
| 14:56 |
remingtron |
yboston: good clarification |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
thank you |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
we are almost at the hour mark |
| 14:57 |
yboston |
any other commetns or questions before we wrap up? |
| 14:57 |
remingtron |
not from me |
| 14:58 |
yboston |
OK then, then I will wrap up |
| 14:58 |
yboston |
thank you everyone for attending |
| 14:58 |
yboston |
#endmeeting |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Thu Apr 2 14:58:57 2015 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2015/evergreen.2015-04-02-14.00.html |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2015/evergreen.2015-04-02-14.00.txt |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2015/evergreen.2015-04-02-14.00.log.html |
| 14:59 |
rsoulliere |
yboston++ |
| 14:59 |
remingtron |
yboston++ |
| 14:59 |
kmlussier |
yboston++ |
| 15:28 |
|
bmills joined #evergreen |
| 15:29 |
|
akilsdonk joined #evergreen |
| 15:40 |
|
bmills joined #evergreen |
| 15:47 |
|
Callender_ joined #evergreen |
| 16:09 |
kmlussier |
My favorite part of the Release Notes is adding the acknowledgements. Because that's where you see in one snapshop all of the different people and organizations that go into making a release happen. |
| 16:17 |
mmorgan |
kmlussier++ |
| 16:30 |
|
chatley joined #evergreen |
| 16:58 |
kmlussier |
Hmmm..I can push to the working repository, but when I try to make a doc commit directly to master, I get a message saying I cannot read from the remote repository. |
| 16:58 |
yboston |
kmlussier++ |
| 16:59 |
jeff |
kmlussier: if you type "git remote -v" does your (push) url for the remote in question look like git git.evergreen-ils.org:/Evergreen ? |
| 16:59 |
kmlussier |
Nope |
| 17:00 |
kmlussier |
git://git.evergreen-ils.org/Evergreen.git |
| 17:00 |
kmlussier |
Is it possible this is my first doc commit since moving to my new laptop in December? I've been negligent. |
| 17:00 |
kmlussier |
OK, let me try to figure this out on my own then. I think I can do it. |
| 17:00 |
kmlussier |
I WILL master git, even if it kills me. |
| 17:01 |
jeff |
if your remote is called "origin", and assuming things are proper on the server side of things already, you can try this: git remote set-url --push origin gitgit.evergreen-ils.org:/Evergreen |
| 17:02 |
kmlussier |
jeff++ |
| 17:02 |
jeff |
worked? :-) |
| 17:02 |
kmlussier |
It sure did |
| 17:04 |
kmlussier |
Isn't there a quote in the database related to git killing people? |
| 17:05 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Release Note Acknowledgements - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0c7df68> |
| 17:05 |
jeff |
kmlussier: at least two |
| 17:05 |
jeff |
@quote get 1 |
| 17:05 |
pinesol_green |
jeff: Quote #1: "<senator> much as a cancer would develop from chewing on uranium rocks ... but the tooth decay is lovely!" (added by gmcharlt at 11:22 AM, February 17, 2011) |
| 17:05 |
jeff |
@quote get 24 |
| 17:05 |
pinesol_green |
jeff: Quote #24: "<denials> when git doesn't kill you, it makes you smarter" (added by gmcharlt at 03:58 PM, May 03, 2012) |
| 17:06 |
* gmcharlt |
is a little concerned that jeff just happens to have to numbers handy |
| 17:07 |
jeff |
gmcharlt: i did my searches via privmsg to avoid cluttering up the channel :-) |
| 17:08 |
gmcharlt |
*whew* |
| 17:08 |
* mmorgan |
thought jeff must have had them all somewhere in jasperreports ;-) |
| 17:08 |
* kmlussier |
thinks jeff really did know them off the top of his head, but doesn't want to admit it. :) |
| 17:09 |
jeff |
the missing context from quote 1 is: <senator> my own understanding of the rebase question, the significance of fast-forwards and the consequences of squashing was stunted until it arose organically through habitual git use |
| 17:09 |
kmlussier |
jeff: Thank you for that. I was just looking for it, but I couldn't remember how to get to the old logs. |
| 17:10 |
jeff |
http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2011-02/%23evergreen.17-Thu-2011.log |
| 17:11 |
pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
| 17:11 |
kmlussier |
@quote get 2 |
| 17:11 |
pinesol_green |
kmlussier: Quote #2: "<tsbere> We need more quotes" (added by berick at 11:24 AM, February 17, 2011) |
| 17:13 |
berick |
knowing is half the battle |
| 17:13 |
berick |
the easy half |
| 17:18 |
|
mmorgan left #evergreen |
| 17:20 |
|
akilsdonk joined #evergreen |
| 17:22 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier++ # TODO's contributions will have to wait another year... ;) |
| 17:28 |
kmlussier |
That's okay. TODO's contributions were completely overrated anyway. |
| 17:35 |
|
chatley_ joined #evergreen |
| 17:36 |
|
kmlussier_ joined #evergreen |
| 17:38 |
|
mtate joined #evergreen |
| 17:39 |
|
bshum joined #evergreen |
| 17:39 |
|
mceraso joined #evergreen |
| 19:38 |
* kmlussier |
must have had a momentary lapse of memory and thought that berick still worked for ESI |
| 19:41 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Kathy Lussier] Release Notes acknowledgements addition - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=984dfe9> |
| 19:48 |
* eeevil |
taps desk waiting for pg repo to clone ... |
| 20:58 |
|
chatley joined #evergreen |
