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mrpeters |
warning -- SUPER old article -- has DIG touched on Apache config for IP Redirection at all yet -- http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=upgrading:1.2.0_to_1.2.1#updating_the_apache_configuration_optional -- I'm currently working on updating this configuration in GenaSYS and was going to write something up to replace that in the manual if it is needed |
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mrpeters |
Also curious if the PerlSetVar OILSRedirectTpac "true" (which is commented out by default) is even needed now that JSPAC is long gone |
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mrpeters |
kmlussier: is DIG still taking submissions in plain text (I think you were at one time) -- I'm working to update some old documentation on lib_ips.txt and IP Redirection within Apache, and thought it might be good for the manual |
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kmlussier |
mrpeters: DIG will take submissions in any format. We prefer AsciiDoc, but we have people who can convert content into AsciiDoc if it's submitted in another format. |
| 08:52 |
mrpeters |
i can whip something up much quicker today without learning the formatting, though i probably should just do that |
| 09:07 |
bshum |
eeevil: Hmm, should we push these changes to master/rel_2_7 as bug fixes? http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab/miker/web-client-sprint1-bug-fixing |
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bshum |
They're not attached to any particular LP, but I assume they should be tested and included. |
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eeevil |
bshum: I'll be putting them on a bug soon. don't rush to push them into master yet |
| 09:40 |
bshum |
eeevil: No rush, just anticipating their usefulness in 2.7.1 (but if they're not ready for tomorrow, I getcha) |
| 09:40 |
eeevil |
yeah, doubtful I'd be comfortable by tomorrow |
| 09:40 |
bshum |
Then I'll not worry about them for now. Thanks :) |
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rfrasur |
Hey all. I'm going to this event as a layperson/mentor to talk up contributing to Evergreen. If anyone has anything you'd like me to take/talk about/watch out for, let me know. http://iub.openhatch.org/ |
| 11:02 |
kmlussier |
rfrasur++ |
| 11:02 |
rfrasur |
Oy, we'll see. Y'all know my lack of technical know how. But...something is better than nothing, right? |
| 11:04 |
yboston |
dwells: got a second? |
| 11:05 |
kmlussier |
rfrasur: Our new Get Involved page may help - http://evergreen-ils.org/involvement/ |
| 11:06 |
kmlussier |
I'm going to update that page soonish to include testing too. |
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rfrasur |
Perfect. |
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kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Espresso Nuevo, and sends it sliding down the bar to TaraC |
| 11:24 |
rfrasur |
Hmm. Coffee. Good idea. |
| 11:24 |
kmlussier |
Heh, I guess that's pinesol_green's way of welcoming TaraC to the community. :) |
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| 11:36 |
jwoodard |
does anyone have any documentation on hold boundaries and setting one up for a consortium? |
| 11:37 |
jwoodard |
I have found a few things that talk about what hold boundaries are but nothing on creating them. |
| 11:38 |
kmlussier |
jwoodard: I don't know of any docs, but I believe you set them up through settings in the Library Settings editor. |
| 11:39 |
dbs |
Is it just me or does "git diff origin/master..origin/rel_2_4" show a surprising number of differences in OpenSRF? |
| 11:40 |
* kmlussier |
thinks you could write an entire book on configuring holds behavior in Evergreen. |
| 11:41 |
mmorgan |
kmlussier: yes, one with many volumes |
| 11:41 |
dbs |
And many parts, too. |
| 11:42 |
rfrasur |
parts-- |
| 11:42 |
* kmlussier |
chuckles |
| 11:42 |
dbs |
mmorgan++ |
| 11:42 |
kmlussier |
parts++ |
| 11:42 |
rfrasur |
Noooooooooo |
| 11:42 |
kmlussier |
rfrasur: Nothing personal. I just always try to balance out parts karma when I can. :) |
| 11:42 |
rfrasur |
I understand. |
| 11:42 |
berick |
dbs: i'm, only seeing a few files changed. mostly related to the release cutting. |
| 11:42 |
berick |
s/,// |
| 11:43 |
rfrasur |
(I'll come back when you're on vacation. Muahahah) |
| 11:43 |
kmlussier |
Two can play at that game. ;) |
| 11:43 |
rfrasur |
;) |
| 11:43 |
berick |
well, entirely related to release cutting |
| 11:44 |
dbs |
berick: maybe I'm doing something wrong in looking at the diff then |
| 11:44 |
berick |
dbs: the changelog looks *very* which is a little confusing |
| 11:44 |
berick |
er, very different |
| 11:45 |
pastebot |
"berick" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "osrf 2.4 files diff" (6 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/11 |
| 11:45 |
dbs |
"git diff --name-status origin/master..origin/rel_2_4" is much better, yeah. |
| 11:46 |
dbs |
berick++ # thanks for the sanity check. |
| 11:46 |
berick |
--name-status++ # nice, never seen that one |
| 11:47 |
dbs |
It seems weird to have "2.1.2" in master vs. 2.4.0-alpha in rel_2_4, etc, but I'll deal |
| 11:49 |
mmorgan |
parts++ #almost 800 part holds placed by patrons filled so far this year |
| 11:49 |
kmlussier |
Nice! parts++ indeed. :) |
| 11:50 |
* rfrasur |
harumphs |
| 11:51 |
rfrasur |
Okay...how about this. cataloging_staff_that_complains_about_parts-- |
| 11:52 |
kmlussier |
rfrasur: No, I wouldn't blame staff. Parts could use some improvement, but I think they do provide an overall benefit in the grand scheme of things even if they can be a little troublesome sometimes. |
| 11:53 |
rfrasur |
kmlussier: I agree. My "complaint" (I'm not really complaining) is from a management standpoint and having to listen to countless reasons why someone doesn't want to do something. |
| 11:56 |
mmorgan |
parts still do have their challenges, but every filled patron-placed part hold is one a library staff member didn't need to mediate. |
| 12:02 |
rfrasur |
true true |
| 12:03 |
bshum |
dbs: I've often wondered that, why we don't have master's number updated more frequently. |
| 12:04 |
bshum |
Or at least occasionally. |
| 12:06 |
bshum |
Hmm, I just realized (belatedly) that I don't have branch edit rights on OpenSRF in Launchpad. Should we mark the OpenSRF 2.4-alpha closed? And get a new milestone for whatever is coming next? |
| 12:07 |
* bshum |
would like to see https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/1369169 squared away :) |
| 12:07 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1369169 in OpenSRF "Add install instructions for websockets to README (and other cleanup)" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] |
| 12:19 |
mmorgan |
I'm trying to build a database query to produce a flat table that represents our circ policies. |
| 12:20 |
mmorgan |
Our policies are based primarily on copy.circ_lib and circ_modifier, and we make use of the short, normal, and long loan durations. Anybody done anything similar? |
| 12:20 |
mrpeters |
a little off topic (but a little on topic, since its jabber :)) -- anyone using OpenFire for XMPP/Jabber chat at their organization? |
| 12:20 |
dbs |
mrpeters: I set it up, once, years ago, but that was it. |
| 12:20 |
Dyrcona |
mmorgan: I've been trying that for a couple of years now. Let me know when you figure it out! ;) |
| 12:20 |
mrpeters |
apparently, it doesn't play nice with wildcard certificates....trying to find someone who has had success |
| 12:21 |
mrpeters |
yeah, same boat here dbs -- i guess new versions of Pidgin don't allow self signed certs anymore |
| 12:21 |
mmorgan |
Dyrcona: Thanks ;-) |
| 12:21 |
mrpeters |
so i figured i'd throw our wildcard on, yeah...thats an adventure |
| 12:21 |
dbs |
bshum: you are now opensrf empowered |
| 12:21 |
dbs |
(or at least a release lead) |
| 12:22 |
dbs |
or project lead. or whatever, yeesh, launchpad |
| 12:22 |
Dyrcona |
New and improved bshum! Now, with OpenSRF power! |
| 12:22 |
dbs |
also, WTH is "srf" doing associated with OpenSRF? |
| 12:23 |
dbs |
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/srf |
| 12:23 |
jeff |
pretty sure that's been an (incorrect) association for a while. |
| 12:23 |
dbs |
linked from the bottom of https://launchpad.net/opensrf |
| 12:23 |
jeff |
noticed and commented a while back, don't know if there was a clear method to break the association. |
| 12:24 |
Dyrcona |
It's a 43% matched based on name alone. |
| 12:24 |
bshum |
"artistic license 2.0"? |
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| 12:26 |
bshum |
I'm removing the srf linkages. I think. |
| 12:26 |
brendan2 |
hello anyone from equinox around? it seems that the koha wiki and the debian.koha-community.org sites are down |
| 12:27 |
brendan2 |
equinox is hosting those |
| 12:27 |
brendan2 |
bradl_: what's up man ;) |
| 12:29 |
rfrasur |
You might ping graced or eeevil, brendan2. |
| 12:29 |
dbs |
and always gmcharlt_ or phasefx |
| 12:29 |
csharp |
or Callender or mtate |
| 12:29 |
rfrasur |
dbs++ |
| 12:29 |
csharp |
:-D |
| 12:29 |
rfrasur |
csharp++ |
| 12:30 |
mrpeters |
or call them :P |
| 12:30 |
brendan2 |
Ah gmcharlt_ is still on the ground - he's responding to texts |
| 12:30 |
brendan2 |
he says he should be able to reboot them now :D |
| 12:30 |
brendan2 |
gmcharlt++ |
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csharp |
gmcharlt_++ |
| 12:30 |
rfrasur |
gmcharlt_++ |
| 12:30 |
brendan2 |
alright adios y'all |
| 12:30 |
csharp |
brendan2: cheers |
| 12:31 |
rfrasur |
peace brendan2 |
| 12:33 |
bshum |
I think that erroneous link should be gone now from OpenSRF. |
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| 12:36 |
dbs |
bshum++ |
| 12:36 |
bshum |
Parts are weird. I just fixed a situation where a copy was linked to a part from another bib. And it didn't show up in any of the cataloging interfaces that this was the problem. |
| 12:37 |
bshum |
I think that maybe the story is that the copies used to be on the same bib, and associated with a given set of parts, and then the copies were moved to separate bibs, but remained linked to those parts |
| 12:37 |
* bshum |
hates parts. |
| 12:42 |
mmorgan |
So... consideration needs to be given to the existence of parts when copies and volumes are moved around. Does lp 904472 apply? |
| 12:42 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 904472 in Evergreen "Transferring items with monographic parts to a new bib record causes problems with holds placement" (affected: 3, heat: 30) [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/904472 |
| 12:43 |
Dyrcona |
MVLC members recently decided to stop using parts for television series. Just throwing that out there into the general discussion about parts. |
| 12:47 |
mmorgan |
Dyrcona: Are they no longer breaking them up? |
| 12:48 |
Dyrcona |
mmorgan: Not supposed to be. The whole season will circulate as one unit. |
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| 12:48 |
bshum |
mmorgan: Yeah it sounds like that may be what happened. |
| 12:48 |
bshum |
Sigh |
| 12:49 |
* bshum |
moves on to other subjects before he gets more depressed. |
| 12:49 |
bshum |
Like lunch! |
| 12:49 |
mmorgan |
lunch++ |
| 12:50 |
rfrasur |
lunch helped here as well. |
| 12:50 |
* tsbere |
is working on lunch as well, that and recovering from being on vacation for a week |
| 12:50 |
bshum |
Lunch feels like super late dinner. |
| 12:50 |
bshum |
And I feel like it's 2 am right now :( |
| 12:50 |
bshum |
jet_lag-- |
| 12:56 |
rfrasur |
Is there a kind of updated list of Evergreen implementations on evergreen-ils.org? |
| 12:57 |
rfrasur |
Found it. |
| 12:57 |
bshum |
As I update the opensrf series listings on Launchpad, it occurs to me that we should drop the 2.1 series off the OpenSRF downloads page: http://evergreen-ils.org/opensrf-downloads/ |
| 12:57 |
bshum |
As nothing links to it anymore |
| 12:58 |
bshum |
And for however long we decide to keep OpenSRF 2.2 series around? Now that Evergreen 2.5 is heading on its way out too? |
| 12:58 |
* bshum |
ponders that some more while he goes to get his lunch |
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| 13:21 |
berick |
bshum: I'll trade you bug #1366964 for bug #1369169 |
| 13:21 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1366964 in Evergreen "Transaction Issues with libdbi 0.9.0" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366964 |
| 13:21 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1369169 in OpenSRF "Add install instructions for websockets to README (and other cleanup)" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1369169 |
| 13:24 |
Dyrcona |
berick: I can test 1366964. I was waiting until some other testing was done on a vm running precise, but the person I was working with is on vacation this week, I think. |
| 13:25 |
berick |
Dyrcona: sweet.. well, except the part where you were trying to do something else and can't ;) |
| 13:25 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
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| 13:28 |
rfrasur |
I've been emailing back and forth with people planning the Indiana University open source event and explained my contributation abilities for the actual development of the software. My question is this...is there someone who is generally in here on weekends who could answer some more indepth questions if students have them? |
| 13:29 |
* rfrasur |
can manage the most basic of the basics. |
| 13:29 |
jeff |
hit or miss there. is this a one-weekend thing? |
| 13:29 |
bshum |
On weekends? Indeed. |
| 13:29 |
rfrasur |
Yeah, it's the 15th of this month. |
| 13:29 |
rfrasur |
https://www.facebook.com/events/1575390022681246/?ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming |
| 13:31 |
* bshum |
wishes he were available but will not be next to his computer much on that weekend. |
| 13:32 |
rfrasur |
bshum++ We should be selfish of our weekend. It was just something I didn't feel like I could pass up. Fairly close by...get to eat a meal with my middle son...and maybe spark a kid to be excited about library software. |
| 13:33 |
bshum |
rfrasur++ |
| 13:34 |
bshum |
It's rare for me to be far from my computer unless I organize time away from it. |
| 13:34 |
bshum |
It sounds like a cool event though. |
| 13:37 |
rfrasur |
I think it will be. I hope they don't send me scurrying from the room. Teens. Smart teens. Teens wielding programming languages. |
| 13:40 |
bshum |
Hmm, now I kind of wish we had registered in Launchpad as the "Evergreen Project" in the projects area, and then placed Evergreen, OpenSRF, etc. as under that umbrella of administration. |
| 13:40 |
bshum |
I wonder if it would be easier or not.... hmm |
| 13:40 |
* bshum |
supposes it's rare enough that we poke at the others |
| 13:41 |
rfrasur |
:) |
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Dyrcona |
berick++ |
| 14:13 |
* dbs |
is running an all-day developer event on the 15th :/ |
| 14:14 |
rfrasur |
dbs, that's cool! |
| 14:16 |
dbs |
rfrasur: just another GDG Sudbury event: http://www.gdgsudbury.ca/#/events |
| 14:17 |
* dbs |
sighs at the escaped HTML |
| 14:17 |
rfrasur |
lol, I like seeing HTML outside of the cages from time to time. I think that type of event might be what IU is aspiring to? |
| 14:18 |
rfrasur |
Although maybe less fun... |
| 14:19 |
rfrasur |
(it's kind of funny that the day is about html...or were the visible tags supposed to be ironic?) |
| 14:23 |
dbs |
rfrasur: no, the underlying platform keeps changing its behaviour on me |
| 14:24 |
rfrasur |
Gotcha :-) |
| 14:25 |
dbs |
You can see the beautiful formatting for the event of just a few weeks ago :) |
| 14:28 |
rfrasur |
I did. And am wishing there was such a thing around here. Well, not wishing. Looking for opportunities to get such a thing coordinated. |
| 14:28 |
* rfrasur |
only wishes for stuff she doesn't care about. |
| 14:33 |
jeff |
rfrasur: i have it on good authority that dbs is trying to expand the local GDG audience beyond students. It's just a short drive north...ish. |
| 14:34 |
rfrasur |
;) My sister informed me the other day that she's never been to Canada. She grew up in Michigan and has never been to Canada. It's like I don't even know her. |
| 14:35 |
rfrasur |
But shouldn't there be GDGs stateside? |
| 14:35 |
jeff |
there are. i was just having a bit of fun with the "drive to canada" thing. |
| 14:36 |
jeff |
(everyone knows you can't actually DRIVE to Canada...) |
| 14:36 |
rfrasur |
Of course you can :p |
| 14:36 |
dbs |
rfrasur: there are a lot of states-side GDGs! |
| 14:37 |
jeff |
GDG Muncie, GDG Indy... |
| 14:37 |
rfrasur |
And it was fun. There are days I consider driving north and getting lost in the wilds...of course, that would probably mean getting stuck somewhere near copper harbor...or marquette. |
| 14:37 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, looking (all the rabbit trails today) |
| 14:37 |
dbs |
Well, active ones are Ann Arbor and Detroit |
| 14:38 |
dbs |
https://developers.google.com/groups/directory/ -- zoom in on the wide expanse of Michigan! |
| 14:39 |
dbs |
Oh yeah, Indiana :) |
| 14:39 |
rfrasur |
lol, it's okay. Michigan...Indiana. My heart pulls me north. My brain keeps me planted in the fields of Indiana. |
| 14:40 |
rfrasur |
(My husband pulls me toward the golf courses of the south) |
| 14:40 |
dbs |
Chris Turvey (GDG Muncey) is a good egg |
| 14:40 |
rfrasur |
Just saw his face. |
| 14:41 |
rfrasur |
He has to be a good person. He likes Car Talk. |
| 14:42 |
dbs |
Mozilla Webmakers would be another good potential group in your area |
| 14:42 |
dbs |
Especially for "teens wielding programming languages" |
| 14:43 |
rfrasur |
I wonder if they'll be promoting those at the open source thingamajig. |
| 14:43 |
rfrasur |
I'll add them to my "file" just in case. |
| 14:43 |
rfrasur |
Though both Google and Mozilla were mentioned in the event description. |
| 14:44 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP1383697: Long Overdue needs to be a "magical status" for the copy editor - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3249d64> |
| 14:44 |
* dbs |
tries not to get distracted by the possibility that the escaped HTML is the result of an extra(?) ng-sanitize call |
| 14:45 |
dbs |
angu-LARRRRRRRRRR |
| 14:45 |
* rfrasur |
tries not to get distracted by ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING else in the world other than finishing the librarian's report for the board meeting. |
| 14:49 |
Bmagic |
Anyone using copy deposits? Workin in 2.7 and with deposits for the first time, I'm not sure what I should expect. Should the system automatically create the bill upon checkout, not create new bills on renewal, then refund the amount upon checkin? |
| 14:51 |
Bmagic |
Do these bugs still exist in 2.7 https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1170794 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1170795 ? |
| 14:51 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1170794 in Evergreen 2.3 "Deposit charged again on renewal of deposit item" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Undecided,Triaged] |
| 14:51 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1170795 in Evergreen 2.3 "Deposit refunds not applying as expected on item check in" (affected: 3, heat: 14) [Undecided,Triaged] |
| 14:56 |
bshum |
Bmagic: If they don't have a status of "fix committed" or "fix released" then, yes, it's still broken. |
| 14:56 |
Bmagic |
bshum: that's what I thought but just making sure! |
| 14:57 |
Bmagic |
bshum: I was thinking 2.3 was a little ancient |
| 14:57 |
bshum |
Bmagic: We don't update the statuses of bugs regularly like that. Otherwise we'd be always updating things. |
| 14:57 |
kmlussier |
2.3 feels like it was just yesterday. |
| 15:03 |
bshum |
kmlussier: It was forever ago to me :) |
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* mrpeters |
sees lots of bitesize bugs out there....need to get some time to try to fix a few :( |
| 15:21 |
kmlussier |
mrpeters: Bug Squashing day is just six days away! :) |
| 15:21 |
mrpeters |
oooh good point |
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| 15:27 |
* mrpeters |
doesn't think I've ever updated my keys, either |
| 15:28 |
* mrpeters |
wants to blame new baby brain, but heh, its been way longer than 2 months since i was at ISL |
| 15:29 |
kmlussier |
mrpeters: You have a new baby? Congratulations! |
| 15:30 |
mrpeters |
indeed, August 25th, showed up on us about 3 weeks early |
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| 15:30 |
mrpeters |
i dont think shes mine though |
| 15:30 |
mrpeters |
too cute |
| 15:30 |
kmlussier |
Ha ha. Of course she's cute. They always are. |
| 15:31 |
mrpeters |
hi #evergreen ! -- http://i.imgur.com/YGMvoqc.jpg |
| 15:33 |
kmlussier |
mrpeters: Awwww! She's beautiful. Thanks for sharing. :) |
| 15:33 |
mrpeters |
thank you....see what i mean about "not mine" haha |
| 15:33 |
berick |
mrpeters: congrats! |
| 15:34 |
mrpeters |
thanks bill |
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| 15:53 |
yboston |
kmlussier: do you have a minute? |
| 15:54 |
kmlussier |
yes, sort of |
| 15:54 |
yboston |
will PM you |
| 15:54 |
Dyrcona |
@blame Facebook |
| 15:54 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: everything was going great until Facebook came along |
| 16:15 |
Bmagic |
Does anyone else have issues browsing the permission tree? The UI seems buggy to me. Sometimes showing the permissions for the selected group and sometimes not. |
| 16:16 |
* bshum |
just looks at the database directly for stuff like that. |
| 16:16 |
* Bmagic |
does too :) |
| 16:16 |
bshum |
That said, it wouldn't surprise me if there was weirdness... |
| 16:16 |
bshum |
:( |
| 16:17 |
Bmagic |
weird |
| 16:17 |
Bmagic |
nothing in the opensrf logs about it... It looks like the initial page load gets everything for all branches... then displays what it's cached as you click through |
| 16:24 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: IIRC something loads permission tree at start up, of course, I could remember incorrectly. |
| 16:26 |
Bmagic |
Dyrcona: that seems to be the case, can you confirm a problem that I am seeing when browsing the tree? Click a branch, click "Group Permissions", Click a different branch that should have permissions but they don't show up |
| 16:26 |
Bmagic |
Dyrcona: It seems like the first branch that you choose will work, any branch after that will fail to show the "Group Permissions" contents |
| 16:26 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: I usually do permissions in the database, 'cause the client interface is so awkward. Also, I'm really working on something else right now. |
| 16:27 |
Bmagic |
Dyrcona: No problem |
| 16:30 |
* dbs |
also uses the database |
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