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jeff |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Extra Fancy Kona Coffee Medium Roast, and sends it sliding down the bar to pastebot |
| 11:21 |
jeff |
:P |
| 11:21 |
jeff |
@coffee [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a cup of Resiprocate Verita Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to tspindler |
| 11:21 |
jeff |
@tea [someone] |
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* pinesol_green |
brews and pours a pot of Masala Chai, and sends it sliding down the bar to dreuther (http://ratetea.com/tea/rishi/masala-chai/4495/) |
| 11:21 |
jeff |
better. |
| 11:22 |
jeff |
morning, #evergreen! |
| 11:22 |
kmlussier |
How appropriate! tspindler was just commenting on FB that it is a three-cups-of-coffee kind of day. |
| 11:22 |
kmlussier |
Good morning jeff! |
| 11:37 |
tspindler |
indeed it is kmlussier |
| 11:39 |
tspindler |
i have been watching comedians in cars over the weekend and jerry seinfeld apparently lives on coffee |
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kmlussier |
@love coffee |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: But kmlussier already loves coffee! |
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kmlussier |
Of course I do. |
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Dyrcona |
kmlussier: My dev vm should be running Evergreen, again. |
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kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Thank you! |
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* Dyrcona |
is having a "personal" day. |
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| 14:11 |
yboston |
I was reading up on ORSF and saw a bad link to the old Subversion repository for a tool called constrictor, that I would like to fix |
| 14:11 |
yboston |
docs/development/intro_opensrf.txt: http://svn.open-ils.org/ILS-Contrib/constrictor |
| 14:12 |
yboston |
found here http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/dev/_evergreen_after_one_year_reflections_on_opensrf.html |
| 14:12 |
yboston |
does this tool still exist? anyone know where? |
| 14:12 |
kmlussier |
http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/random.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab/berick/constrictor |
| 14:12 |
tsbere |
MVLC has git copies of the ILS-Contrib repo too. |
| 14:12 |
yboston |
thanks, I srated looking at random, but must have missed it |
| 14:12 |
yboston |
thanks |
| 14:13 |
kmlussier |
Thank Dyrcona. He sent the link to me a couple months back. :) |
| 14:13 |
tsbere |
If you can't find any other things that were in the ILS-Contrib repo you can check our copy of it: http://git.mvlcstaff.org/?p=Evergreen/ILS-Contrib.git;a=summary |
| 14:13 |
yboston |
kmlussier: are we in need of more bitsize doc bugs? |
| 14:14 |
kmlussier |
yboston: Sure. |
| 14:14 |
yboston |
OK |
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| 14:54 |
jeff |
one of our staff discovered the enhancement that patron phone numbers now match in patron search regardless of punctuation. she was pleased. :-) |
| 14:55 |
jeff |
so, a long after the fact ningalls++ senator++ eeevil++ mrpeters++ for commit 40fe251 |
| 14:55 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|senator] Patch from Niles Ingalls to make patron phone number searching more matchy. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=40fe251> |
| 15:04 |
bshum |
Haha |
| 15:04 |
bshum |
Awesome :) |
| 15:07 |
jeff |
> Heaps of blessings upon your head / THANK YOU! / Dashes are no longer required in telephone numbers in Patron Search :) |
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gmcharlt |
:) |
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yboston |
dbs: are you around for a quick conifer question? |
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kmlussier |
Is the participant list at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=hack-a-way-2014 just for those traveling to SC or can it include those who are planning to participate remotely/ |
| 16:14 |
kmlussier |
RoganH^ ^ |
| 16:14 |
RoganH |
hello! |
| 16:15 |
jeff |
kmlussier++ for asking |
| 16:15 |
kmlussier |
RoganH: Hi! :) |
| 16:15 |
RoganH |
sorry, had to read up, I've been buried in other windows |
| 16:15 |
kmlussier |
RoganH: As I knew would happen, I'm really regretting the fact that I didn't make travel plans. |
| 16:15 |
RoganH |
Yes, it's for anyone participating in anyway. |
| 16:15 |
kmlussier |
RoganH: OK, thanks! |
| 16:15 |
kmlussier |
RoganH++ #Organzing |
| 16:16 |
bshum |
kmlussier: It's never too late to get a last minute ticket or drive down? ;) |
| 16:17 |
kmlussier |
bshum: I'm getting too old to make last-minute changes to my schedule like that. |
| 16:17 |
bshum |
Hehe |
| 16:17 |
kmlussier |
And I think it is too late when taking into consideration the fact that at least one parent should be home when the kids are. |
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| 16:21 |
kmlussier |
For bug 1198465, I think I'm going to start a wiki page that outlines very specific use cases with all the different twists and turns that can happen with a transaction, and how the system should respond when the negative balance settings are turned on and how it might differ depending on what other settings a library might have enabled. |
| 16:21 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1198465 in Evergreen "Support for Conditional Negative Balances" (affected: 14, heat: 62) [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1198465 |
| 16:21 |
bshum |
kmlussier++ #sounds helpful |
| 16:22 |
kmlussier |
Because, in testing, I've found that the answer isn't always clear. And it also provides an opportunity for people like RoganH, who have shown interest in the project, to provide feedback on a conceptual level on whether they agree with the expected behavior. |
| 16:23 |
kmlussier |
We created use cases at the beginning of the project, but I don't think they fully considered all the different turns a billing transaction can take. |
| 16:23 |
RoganH |
Yeah, I have to admit it's been on my todo list to go back and read through the bug history (and I mean that literally, it's on my todo list) but I've managed to not get to it yet. |
| 16:24 |
mmorgan |
kmlussier++ |
| 16:27 |
kmlussier |
RoganH: Yes, well, it was on my to-do list to test remingtron's most recent branch, but I think I needed a break from it. Break time's over. :) |
| 16:28 |
RoganH |
Given how many different workflows and opinions I can expect on this just within SCLENDS I know getting consensus throughout the entire community can be challenging. |
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| 16:30 |
Dyrcona |
Simple soluton: Everyone stops charging fines, etc. |
| 16:30 |
* Dyrcona |
ducks. |
| 16:30 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: That thought has crossed my mind. :) |
| 16:31 |
kmlussier |
If we only needed to handle the lost book fees and didn't need to worry about whether fines needed to be reinstated or new fines generator, it would take a fair amount of complexity out of the whole discussion. |
| 16:31 |
* kmlussier |
can dream |
| 16:31 |
RoganH |
I have one library that doesn't charge fines. Everyone else considers it heresy. (Some get to keep it as revenue and it's needed). |
| 16:33 |
Dyrcona |
Depending on how you count "charges fines" less than half of MVLC members do. |
| 16:33 |
Dyrcona |
If you count charges for DVDs (but not books) then we hit roughly half. |
| 16:34 |
RoganH |
The "don't charge fines" trend has never been popular in the south east at least. I wonder if there is a regional element to it. |
| 16:38 |
kmlussier |
It certainly hasn't caught on at my local library. |
| 16:39 |
* kmlussier |
is a delinquent patron with lots of overdue fines on her record. |
| 16:40 |
gmcharlt |
if kmlussier can do it... /me guilitily presents his membership card in the Not-So-Great Patron Club |
| 16:42 |
RoganH |
I officially allow items to go overdue in order to keep a running test on notice generation so I'm never responsible for my fines, it's part of my job. :) |
| 16:42 |
gmcharlt |
heh |
| 16:43 |
RoganH |
To be fair, when we have had issues I caught most of them that way before we had tickets filed. :) |
| 16:43 |
kmlussier |
RoganH: My local library isn't on Evergreen, so I don't have that excuse. Though one could argue that I use it as a way to compare the two systems. |
| 16:44 |
kmlussier |
For example, I'm quite sure that, out of the box, Evergreen does not actually tell its users that they are "delinquent." |
| 16:44 |
gmcharlt |
well, it would be nice if no ILS did, at least, not using those words |
| 16:44 |
RoganH |
It's been so long since I don't remember what any of the default text is but that's a poor choice of words. |
| 16:44 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt: Yes, it would be nice, wouldn't it? |
| 16:45 |
kmlussier |
The language provides me with a disincentive for paying my fines. |
| 16:46 |
* kmlussier |
needs to scott. |
| 16:46 |
kmlussier |
Scoot even. |
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kmlussier |
Have a nice night! |
| 16:47 |
RoganH |
Who is scott? |
| 16:47 |
RoganH |
bye! |
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Dyrcona |
And I'm signing off, too. |
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