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04:56 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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10:52 kmlussier Are metarecord holds included in the hold count that's listed on the bib record in the OPAC?
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10:54 kmlussier Actually, maybe I should be posing this question to tsbere. Should I be seeing metarecord holds included in the count with the patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1322341?
10:54 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1322341 in Evergreen "Part level holds do not display in OPAC" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Undecided,New]
10:55 kmlussier They dont' seem to be included, which is fine with me as long as that's the intended behavior.
10:56 tsbere kmlussier: All I added was part holds. I did not add metarecord. If we want metarecord I think more needs to be done.
10:57 tsbere that and including metarecord counts could be confusing. "Do we just include them all, or only when the hold could possibly include this bib based on selections?"
10:57 kmlussier tsbere: OK, that's fine. I just wasn't sure if they were counted prior to the patch being loaded. If not, then the patch looks good to me.
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12:22 jeff jrucker++ BDL++ for https://www.branchdistrictlibrary.​org/professional/mieg_overdues.php -- never know when that will come in handy. :-)
12:32 jeff today it was "bridging the gap between what the previous ILS had generated notices for and between when this library is live with postal notices via Unique"
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12:50 bshum So this is fun
12:50 bshum The relator term for some bibs are being included as part of the author search link for search results.
12:51 bshum For example, the second bib in this link:  https://acorn.biblio.org/eg/opac/results?que​ry=shakespeare+star+wars&amp;qtype=keyword&a​mp;fi%3Asearch_format=&amp;locg=39&amp;sort=
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12:51 bshum Which makes the author link entry as "Doescher, Ian, author."
12:51 bshum With the full record view, it properly separates the "author" part out of the query link
12:51 bshum Bug I guess?
12:56 dbs ah, search results
12:56 bshum dbs: Yeah I think it's something in the way that the author attribute is generated from misc_util
12:56 dbs yeah, I think "bug", unless you want searches to go specifically to "Doescher, Ian, editor" vs. "Doescher, Ian, author"
12:56 bshum But I'm still looking around
12:57 * dbs looks forward to eventually being on EG 2.6 or 2.7 instead of decrepit old 2.4
12:57 bshum I think it's the same sort of problem I saw where the graphic_880 dance was grabbing all subfields for a given tag instead of just the bits and pieces.
12:58 dbs probably
12:58 bshum dbs: For fun, we set a date for our next upgrade to be the weekend after I'm supposed to cut 2.7.0.
12:58 bshum So.... maybe it'll be on-time and not too broken.
12:58 bshum :)
13:00 dbs hah, no pressure
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13:02 * bshum will file a bug when he gets to the office on this issue
13:02 bshum I stopped on my way there to troubleshoot an unhappy DB server.
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13:54 * eeevil reads up an thinks wistfully of display_fields
13:54 jeff display_fields++
13:54 berick display_fields++
13:55 kmlussier display_fields++
13:56 gmcharlt http://evergreen-ils.org/southeast-region​al-evergreen-conference-october-8-9-2014/
14:01 kmlussier I'm curious. Is there a lot more work that needs to be done on Display Fields or just some minor tweaks?
14:11 jeffdavis bshum: I've added release notes for bug 868653 per kmlussier's request (and sorry for the delay, I was on vacation)
14:11 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 868653 in Evergreen "secondary permission groups (permission.usr_grp_map)" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868653
14:12 collum gmcharlt: it looks like the last part of your announcement was truncated.
14:12 gmcharlt oy
14:12 gmcharlt collum: thanks for the catch
14:13 collum No problem.  Just trying to determine if KY is South East.  It was VA at one time.
14:13 kmlussier jeffdavis: Ugh, sorry! I apparently forgot to add a comment to that LP bug. I wrote up a release notes entry shortly after it went in.
14:14 jeffdavis ha, ok! kmlussier++
14:14 kmlussier jeffdavis++
14:14 jeffdavis I could've double checked and saved myself 5 whole minutes of work ;)
14:14 csharp collum++
14:23 eeevil kmlussier:  probably just a little work due to ingest code drift
14:25 csharp @band add Ingest Code Drift
14:25 pinesol_green csharp: I see nothing, I know nothing!
14:27 gmcharlt collum: fixed
14:27 gmcharlt collum: also, the conference is now open to anybody who cares to make their way to Raleigh
14:27 collum Thanks gmcharlt.  Sounds good.
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15:01 pinesol_green [opensrf|Mike Rylander] LP#1337401: Only care about our own processes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=cb56fd3>
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15:30 eeevil @marc 214
15:30 pinesol_green eeevil: unknown tag 214
15:30 eeevil just as I suspected...
15:33 kmlussier 214?
15:33 eeevil kmlussier: that's what I said...
15:33 kmlussier Never heard of such a thing. But I'm not a cataloger. :)
15:35 collum Became obsolete in 1993.  http://www.loc.gov/marc/bi​bliographic/bd20x24x.html (under Content Designator History)
15:37 eeevil collum++
15:44 kmlussier Ah! I wasn't a librarian in 1993.
15:45 dbs so... would display_fields not display the "editor" part then? Or would it be smart enough to generate "Doescher, Ian, editor" for display but make the link just search "au:Doescher, Ian"?
15:45 * dbs has not read through all of the code for bug 1251394
15:45 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1251394 in Evergreen "Metabib Display Fields" (affected: 3, heat: 16) [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1251394 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (erickson-esilibrary)
15:48 eeevil dbs: I haven't looked in a long time ... a question, though ... which is more correct? or, maybe the right thing is to have separate display fields for different name uses ... editor, creator, etc, separately displayable (from different index defs, to supply the context)
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15:52 dbs eeevil: Undoubtedly, the answer will depend on the context. Some users / librarians will be outraged that clicking on "Doescher, Ian, author" didn't return results where he was an artist or editor.
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15:52 dbs Others will be outraged if clicking on "Doescher, Ian, author" returns all results for Ian Doescher, and not just the ones where he is explicitly listed as an author by the good graces of $4 / $e.
15:53 dbs STRANGE GAME. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY.
15:56 eeevil ah ... so, it's really "does this link (aka index def) cause a class-wide search or a field specific search". that could certainly be added as a flag on the index def. then, have separate definitions which supply the use context in the UI
15:57 eeevil or even 2 links, like subject links on the detail page, that are "this name, anywhere in the class" and, on the contextual label, "this name, used this way"
15:58 dbs eeevil: yeah, I was thinking the latter, too. Even though some people dislike that as well. Meh.
16:10 eeevil @marc 21
16:10 kmlussier +1 to the flag. Making it configurable seems like a good approach.
16:10 pinesol_green eeevil: unknown tag 21
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16:33 tsbere Testing VM building scripts can be a PITA because you can't tell if they work unless you wait for an entire VM to build. >_>
16:49 Dyrcona Well, yeah....
16:53 berick vbox_snapshots_and_cloning++
16:59 tsbere berick: That doesn't help when you want to have a script build you a fully clean one. From scratch. ;)
16:59 * tsbere heads home for the day
17:02 berick tsbere: ah, no it does not
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17:15 pinesol_green [evergreen|Yamil Suarez] Docs: Removed use of deprecated file suffix for eg_db_config in install docs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b831871>
17:28 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
19:04 pinesol_green Showing latest 5 of 36 commits to OpenSRF...
19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: websocket: avoid sharedworker for firefox 29 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=9fdef97>
19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: JS libs capture all method errors - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=17ae5ca>
19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: JS status codes can come across as numbers; stringify for match - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=c65c6d9>
19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: update JS/WS/SSL code comment - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=755a586>
19:04 pinesol_green [opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1268619: disable shared workers pending browser issues - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p​=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=2677f8e>
19:09 bshum berick++ gmcharlt++
19:11 gmcharlt bshum: this may be useful for Apache 2.4 - http://paste.lisp.org/display/143442
19:11 bshum Cool! Thanks.
19:12 gmcharlt that reflects tweaks I made to get it working on Debian testing
19:13 bshum Gotcha
19:13 gmcharlt also - it's necessary that the SSL certificate that your test system uses be valid
19:13 bshum Okay, that shouldn't be a problem.
19:13 gmcharlt if you need to test with a self-signed cert on Chrome or Chromimum, one workaround is to start the browser with  --ignore-certificate-errors
19:15 bshum Good tips, thanks Galen!
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