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05:13 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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08:03 krvmga where is the default "stay logged in" time defined for the system (if the patron checks the "Stay logged in" checkbox on the opac login screen)?
08:05 eeevil krvmga: the default is in the opensrf.xml file, in the open-ils.auth section. there are timeouts for staff, opac and temp, IIRC
08:05 krvmga eeevil: thanks :)
08:05 krvmga eeevil++
08:07 krvmga <default_timeout>
08:07 krvmga <!-- default login timeouts based on login type -->
08:07 krvmga <opac>420</opac>
08:07 krvmga <staff>7200</staff>
08:07 krvmga <temp>300</temp>
08:07 krvmga <persist>2 weeks</persist>
08:07 krvmga </default_timeout>
08:08 krvmga from opensrf.xml
08:11 krvmga if i'm reading this right, it says that the opac login time out is 7 minutes, the staff 2 hours, temp (not sure what temp is) 5 minutes, and i'm guessing "persist" is the "Stay logged in" bit.
08:11 krvmga i don't know if it's safe to assume that opac login time out means "7 minutes without activity"?
08:12 krvmga and that the counter gets reset on activity
08:16 eeevil persist is for selfcheck, IIRC
08:17 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1348731: Optional Auth login nonce to differentiate same-username logins - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1143fc8>
08:17 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1348731: have SIP gateway use a login nonce - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=7917dc6>
08:17 eeevil and I believe it is "7 mins without activity"
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08:22 krvmga hmmmm, in that case, is persist also used for "Stay logged in"?
08:23 krvmga because i see this
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08:23 krvmga <input type="checkbox" name="persist" id="login_persist" /><label for="login_persist"> [% l('Stay logged in?') %]</label>
08:23 krvmga in form.tt2
08:23 krvmga and see the name="persist"
08:24 krvmga so perhaps i just answered my own question?
08:28 Dyrcona I missed the question, so I can't say. ;)
08:30 krvmga Dyrcona: i was trying to find where the default "Stay logged in" time was in the system. eeevil said opensrf.xml. looked there and <persist>2 weeks</persist>
08:31 krvmga eeevil said this was used for self-check stations and i was guessing that it was also used for "Stay logged in".
08:32 krvmga and i noticed in form.tt2 that the checkbox name="persist"
08:32 berick krvmga: yep, it's used there
08:33 krvmga tiny mystery solved then. :)
08:35 eeevil berick++
08:36 krvmga berick++
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09:02 tsbere krvmga: I believe "temp" was intended for (and should be usable in) operator change in the staff client. "Temporarily change to this user" ;)
09:02 krvmga tsbere: thanks :)
09:02 krvmga tsbere++
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09:53 eeevil tsbere: you believe rightly. and also for workstation registration, maybe.
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10:02 Dyrcona eeevil: I was on vacation when you posted your fix on lp 1322285 so I'll give it a whirl today.
10:02 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1322285 in Evergreen "MVF ingest uses default values inappropriately " (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1322285
10:02 Dyrcona eeevil: I assume that it requires a reingest. Would I need to delete anything beforehand?
10:06 eeevil Dyrcona: I'll look...
10:08 eeevil Dyrcona: a delete should not be required, and just an attr reingest (and just for the impacted attrs, if you want to trim it all the way down)
10:08 Dyrcona eeevil: Cool. Thanks!
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10:34 Dyrcona eeevil: I pushed a small fix for the upgrade script to your collab branch on that one. I added "IF EXISTS" in the DROP FUNCTION statements.
10:34 Dyrcona eeevil: At least one of those was missing in my development database.
10:35 Dyrcona I haven't had a chance to test the changes, yet.
10:35 eeevil Dyrcona: ahh, cool. otherwise it seems happy?
10:35 eeevil oh
10:35 eeevil :)
10:36 frank____ Hi all, I have a question, Does someone know why when I run the command cat /home/opensrf/recordsBabelExportar30Julio14.txt | ./marc_export -i -c /openils/conf/opensrf_core.xml -e UTF8 -x /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml -f USMARC --timeout 5 > /home/opensrf/exported_file​s14Julio14SummonUpdate.mrc, it doesnt export the e-books records?
10:37 Dyrcona frank____: What version of Evergreen? marc_export recently had a major rewrite in 2.6.
10:38 frank____ We have the 2.6.0 EG version
10:40 jboyer-isl Hallo, hallo to any CollectionHQ users (outside of Indiana), I would bend your ear if you have a minute. (Re: development of the CHQ extract scripts)
10:41 jboyer-isl development as in, is anyone working on anything currently?
10:42 Dyrcona frank____: The -i option to include item information excludes records without copies. It also fails to add records with located URIs, apparently.
10:43 frank____ Dyrcona: ok, so If I want to import all the marc records I just have to exclude the -i option?
10:44 Dyrcona frank____: Yes, but you will not then get item information in the MARC output.
10:45 Dyrcona I *think* the old marc_export behaved that way, too, but I'm too busy to look it up right now.
10:45 Dyrcona This should probably be fixed. frank____ , could you open a Launchpad bug on it?
10:46 Dyrcona I think -i should at least include records with located URIs.
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10:47 frank____ Dyrcona: yes, sure
11:01 Dyrcona eeevil: I dumped the lit_form for some records we had a ticket on, and then reingested them, and dumped the lit_forms again. I don't see any difference.
11:01 Dyrcona eeevil: These are records showing up both as fiction and nonfiction.
11:13 Dyrcona Hmm. Looks like my run of metabib.reingest_record_attributes did nothing.
11:20 Dyrcona Dunno if that is because of the code I just loaded or something else.
11:23 Dyrcona It happens in training, too, so it is not the code from eeevil's branch.
11:23 Dyrcona I hesitate to test in production, but that is closer to 2.6.0.
11:30 eeevil Dyrcona: ah, so the reingest didn't actually happen?
11:30 eeevil (just making sure I understand)
11:34 Dyrcona eeevil: That's what it looks like.
11:34 Dyrcona I'm digging to see if I missed something.
11:36 eeevil Dyrcona: maybe a force-on-same=enabled full reingest of a specific set of records (n=1 is enough, probably) to make sure reingest didn't break with my code?
11:36 Dyrcona Hmm... It didn't like my arguments, apparently.
11:36 Dyrcona eeevil: I did it with just the id and it worked.
11:37 Dyrcona I guess it didn't like pattr_list or something.
11:38 Dyrcona Anyway, now that I have the reingest happening. Nothing appears to have changed.
11:38 Dyrcona My fiction record with only an 008 is still showing up as both fiction and non-fiction.
11:45 eeevil Dyrcona: I'll try to look later, but I'm about to become a pumpkin for the rest of the day
11:46 Dyrcona eeevil: np, so am I.
11:46 eeevil thanks for giving it a first poke!
11:46 Dyrcona I figured out why the reingest didn't work after the deletion.
11:46 Dyrcona I needed true in the final argument.
11:59 Dyrcona Heh. "You keep passing that argument. I don't think it does what you think it does."
11:59 frank____ Dyrcona: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1350916
11:59 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1350916 in Evergreen "Use -i in marc_export exclude records with located URIs.should at least include records with located URIs" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New]
12:01 Dyrcona frank____: Thanks.
12:01 bshum I'm not sure I'd agree with that.  If I pass an argument for -i for item holdings, I'd rather it did not include URI bibs
12:02 bshum I mean, they really don't have copies associated with them.  So to me, they should be skipped.
12:04 frank____ bshum: how should I get the records with related
12:04 frank____ sorry, with located uris
12:04 bshum If it was me
12:04 bshum I would identify those bibs separately in another file to be exported
12:04 bshum And run it without the -i flag
12:05 bshum But that's just one opinion.  I could do the same on my end and skip over URI bibs when I specify specific bibs to be exported with -i and then I'd avoid having them accidentally included in my batches.
12:06 bshum It's just different viewpoints
12:06 dbwells I believe the thinking is that -i should affect the contents of the records, not the selectivity of the set.  There are lots of other means to change the set of records being exported.
12:07 tsbere bshum: If I hand the exporter a list of records I expect to get that list of records, items or not. ;)
12:07 bshum Well, then I'll keep my disagreement to myself then :)
12:12 Dyrcona One thing I was thinking of is -i should just delete the record whether it has copies, URIs, or not.
12:12 Dyrcona Heh. See if anyone notices.
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12:13 bshum Heh
12:14 dbs -i, --incinerate
12:16 Dyrcona Anyway, too much messing in the database this morning.
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13:24 kmlussier Just sending along my daily reminder to fill out the Doodle poll for bug squashing day. http://doodle.com/6ush6hyx9pa39pv3
13:25 jeff @later tell Dyrcona For CollectionHQ, we're using the method in the ESI contrib git repo -- see the collectionHQ directory.
13:25 pinesol_green jeff: The operation succeeded.
13:30 kmlussier Ugh! And I am just now noticing that I put July dates in that poll instead of August. No wonder nobody filled out the first three options.
13:32 jeff hah
13:32 jeff oops
13:37 kmlussier I'm sorry to say it isn't the first time I've made this mistake. But when I've done it before, it's been easy enough to fix. Doodle doesn't want to cooperate today.
13:37 * kmlussier shakes her first at Doodle.
14:05 kmlussier OK, then, ignore my reminder to fill out the new poll. Let me see if I can get this fixed first. I could always start a new one, but I hate to make people re-enter their information again. :(
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14:30 jboyer-isl jeff: were you @later-ing Dyrcona re: the message I posted this morning, or had the two of you been discussing CHQ also?
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14:45 yboston @marc 099
14:45 pinesol_green yboston: unknown tag 099
14:46 yboston @marc 090
14:46 pinesol_green yboston: unknown tag 090
14:46 dbwells yboston: 090 and 099 are locally defined call number fields
14:46 yboston ¡gracias!
14:46 dbwells 090 is usually a local LC number, and 099 is usually a totally custom call number format
14:48 yboston thanks
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16:44 bshum yboston: Fwiw, I replied about tag 264 and bug 1304462
16:44 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1304462 in Evergreen "Add 264 tag values to Record Summary" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1304462 - Assigned to Ben Shum (bshum)
16:45 bshum It's marked "in progress" and assigned to me.
16:45 bshum And I am working on it in preparation for including it by 2.7.0-beta
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16:47 yboston wow, I was quite wrong. I got confused on what support existed versus what I might have added to my own system
16:48 yboston thanks
16:51 yboston BTW, I am going to submit about six new sample RDA records like I did in a preivous working commit
16:51 bshum That'd be great!
16:55 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
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17:20 kmlussier @dessert [someone]
17:20 * pinesol_green grabs some Chocolate Pudding for riot
17:35 csharp @praise [someone]
17:35 * pinesol_green the upgrade came off brilliantly, and it's all because of yboston
17:36 yboston the check is in the mail pinesol_green
17:36 kmlussier Heh
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21:53 * jeff comes up for air
21:53 jeff morning, #evergreen!
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