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bshum |
dbwells: Before you cut the maintenance release, I might ask you to check in https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1314370 with the quick fix so that it works out of the box again for folks using 2.6. The approach I used isn't necessarily the best, but it was the fastest. We may do more cleanup later on. |
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pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1314370 in Evergreen "Shelving Location field in Advanced Search only works if dojo loaded" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Medium,Confirmed] |
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bshum |
Heh |
11:41 |
bshum |
I wish I had gone to PGCon 2014 now. |
11:41 |
bshum |
The session videos are up though: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWW0CjV-Tafa2jvcjihXwSvZZKsLAsb9Y |
11:41 |
bshum |
My favorite title so far is "CREATE INDEX ... USING VODKA" |
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bshum |
:D |
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dbs |
bshum: ah, the Alex / Oleg / Teodor show - nice :) |
11:53 |
bshum |
dbs: Indeed, always a good one. |
11:54 |
kmlussier |
dbs: Did you go to PGCon this year? |
11:54 |
bshum |
We're going to try going to PGCon '15 next year. |
11:56 |
dbs |
kmlussier: no, I was at ESWC instead |
11:56 |
dbs |
@decide Crete or Ottawa |
11:56 |
pinesol_green |
dbs: As great as you are man, you'll never be greater than yourself. |
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* dbs |
runs (literally) |
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* kmlussier |
would have chosen Crete too. :) |
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gmcharlt |
web team meeting in a few minutes |
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gmcharlt |
#startmeeting Evergreen Web Team meeting, 18 June 2014 |
13:01 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting started Wed Jun 18 13:01:02 2014 US/Eastern. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
13:01 |
pinesol_green |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
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pinesol_green |
The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_web_team_meeting__18_june_2014' |
13:01 |
gmcharlt |
#link http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=webteam:meetings:agenda:2014-06-18 Agenda |
13:01 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Introductions |
13:01 |
gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton, ESI |
13:01 |
bshum |
#info Ben Shum, Bibliomation |
13:01 |
jeff |
#info Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) |
13:02 |
ericar |
#info Erica Rohlfs, ESI |
13:02 |
kmlussier |
#info Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
13:03 |
gmcharlt |
#topic Action items from previous meetings |
13:03 |
gmcharlt |
first up - gdunbar will proceed with the redesign of the downloads page |
13:04 |
gmcharlt |
unless gdunbar chimes in now, I'll assume it should just be carried over to the next meeting |
13:04 |
kmlussier |
graced^^ |
13:05 |
gmcharlt |
ok... |
13:05 |
gmcharlt |
similarly, I haven't yet poked at the "learn more" buttons issue, although path forward seems clear: a minor tweak to the theme itself |
13:06 |
gmcharlt |
#action (carry-over) gdunbar will proceed with the redesign of the downloads page |
13:06 |
gmcharlt |
#action (carry-over) gmcharlt will investigate options for the “learn more” buttons |
13:06 |
gmcharlt |
next up, the proposed developments projects page |
13:07 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: thanks for that note to open-ils-general yesterday |
13:07 |
gmcharlt |
have you gotten any feedback yet? |
13:07 |
kmlussier |
I think graced has some projects she'll be adding to that page this week. |
13:07 |
kmlussier |
No feedback yet. |
13:09 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
13:09 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier++ |
13:09 |
gmcharlt |
graced++ |
13:09 |
gmcharlt |
next up |
13:09 |
gmcharlt |
ericar to work with jeff and dbs on the Evergreen libraries directory |
13:10 |
gmcharlt |
ericar: jeff: any progress? |
13:10 |
ericar |
jeff replied to my email and I dropped the ball. I also need to update the roster |
13:11 |
jeff |
tuit shortage on everyone's part, I'd imagine. If anyone has data outside what's on the wiki at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries, I'd be interested in it. |
13:11 |
ericar |
I like kmlussier suggestion of buddypress |
13:11 |
jeff |
i.e., does anyone have the KML files mentioned here: http://www.molyneux.com/EGmaps/ or can anyone point me at the dumps of the old RSCEL site? |
13:11 |
bshum |
jeff: The KML files are in the git repo for Evergreen_Website |
13:12 |
jeff |
bshum++ thanks! |
13:12 |
bshum |
jeff: See the "maps" directory |
13:12 |
gmcharlt |
#info the KML files from http://www.molyneux.com/EGmaps/ are in the Evergreen_Website Git repo |
13:12 |
kmlussier |
I think Anoop had the dumps from RSCEL |
13:12 |
ericar |
jeff: there are more libraries that need to be added to that roster :) |
13:12 |
jeff |
ericar: good to hear! :-) |
13:13 |
jeff |
ericar++ |
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gmcharlt |
ericar: so as a short-term action item, you'll add them at some point? |
13:13 |
ericar |
gmcharlt: yes |
13:13 |
gmcharlt |
#action ericar to add more libraries to the current roster |
13:14 |
gmcharlt |
and more broadly, hopefully tuits will start appearing again after ALA |
13:14 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
13:14 |
gmcharlt |
moving on, the discussion of previous conference websites |
13:15 |
gmcharlt |
#link http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/evergreen-web-team/2014-June/000508.html Query about previous conference websites |
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gmcharlt |
kmlussier: from my POV, it would be enough of a win to put up a page that nicludes the handouts, the schedule, and the conference logo |
13:16 |
bshum |
I didn't get to reply the list, but stating now that I'd generally prefer getting content moved and not moving towards mirroring the entire original conference sites. |
13:16 |
bshum |
+1 to gmcharlt's short list |
13:17 |
kmlussier |
If that's all that needed, then I think that's something I can work on. |
13:17 |
* gmcharlt |
pounces |
13:18 |
gmcharlt |
#action kmlussier to create pages with handouts, schedule, logo etc. from the previous conference (as material is/becomes available) |
13:19 |
gmcharlt |
#action (carry-over) gmcharlt will coordinate with the EOB regarding the trademark policy page |
13:19 |
gmcharlt |
next up - the how to use LP page |
13:19 |
gmcharlt |
ericar? |
13:19 |
ericar |
in progress then will send to bshum |
13:20 |
gmcharlt |
yay! |
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gmcharlt |
ericar++ |
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bshum |
ericar++ |
13:20 |
ericar |
will be complete before next meeting, because I want to get it done |
13:21 |
gmcharlt |
#action ericar will complete the how to use LaunchPad page and give it to bshum to put up |
13:21 |
gmcharlt |
next up, the FAQs |
13:21 |
gmcharlt |
phasefx? |
13:23 |
gmcharlt |
ok, moving on |
13:23 |
gmcharlt |
#action (carry-over) phasefx will work on the FAQs |
13:23 |
gmcharlt |
next up, site search |
13:24 |
gmcharlt |
bshum? |
13:24 |
bshum |
Oh right |
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bshum |
So I added some basic details on the agenda on what we have right now |
13:24 |
bshum |
For the moment what I've done is to add a right side widget for the Google Custom Search Engine |
13:24 |
gmcharlt |
#info The Google Custom Search Engine box is now on the main index page, with results being added to a white area right above the blog posts. |
13:25 |
bshum |
And then I customized the index page to include a spot for the results snippet |
13:25 |
bshum |
So results come in to fill the space above the blog posts, when you do use the CSE widget |
13:26 |
bshum |
I tried a couple other variations -- popup over the site (which didn't work with certain elements on the page) or results under the widget, but it's too narrow for results to view cleanly. |
13:26 |
bshum |
I didn't like how it worked with a mobile view (the results appear above the search widget due to how it's organized) |
13:26 |
bshum |
But it's one small step back in the right direction. |
13:27 |
bshum |
For now, it only resides on the index page as we get some more general feedback on how it works |
13:27 |
gmcharlt |
what is included in its index? |
13:28 |
bshum |
Let's see |
13:28 |
bshum |
IRC |
13:28 |
bshum |
the wiki, mailing lists for docs, dig, general |
13:28 |
bshum |
The git site |
13:28 |
kmlussier |
documentation |
13:28 |
bshum |
Right, docs |
13:28 |
kmlussier |
the blog |
13:29 |
bshum |
Err, maybe not docs... |
13:29 |
bshum |
I thought it covered it, but now I'm not 100% sure which engine I attached :) |
13:29 |
gmcharlt |
the Git site? gitweb doesn't hold up all that well against crawling |
13:29 |
bshum |
There's been a few |
13:29 |
kmlussier |
Oh, maybe not blog either. I was just reading the tabs on the search results page, but there's nothing there. |
13:30 |
kmlussier |
Is there any chance the other discussion lists could be added? The ones that are not open-ils lists? |
13:30 |
bshum |
Probably |
13:30 |
bshum |
I guess we need to tinker with the Google custom search engine settings |
13:31 |
kmlussier |
There's a RSCEL tab too. Probably could be taken down. :) |
13:31 |
jeff |
the lists included currently are: open-ils-documentation, eg-oversight-board, open-ils-commits, opensrf-commits, open-ils-general, and open-ils-dev |
13:31 |
jeff |
bshum: i can assist with tweaking/testing CSE settings if you like |
13:32 |
bshum |
Oh, good, jeff is an admin too |
13:32 |
bshum |
Yeah I was just trying to remember who has access to the CSE |
13:32 |
gmcharlt |
bshum: for the sake of avoiding the bus factor, could you write up somewhere where and how one goes about tweaking CSE? |
13:32 |
* dbs |
is an admin too, he thinks |
13:32 |
dbs |
yup. |
13:32 |
bshum |
Yes, phasefx owns it, dbs, jeff, and I are admins. (Anoop too) |
13:33 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
13:34 |
gmcharlt |
#action bshum et all will tweak the Google CSE settings |
13:34 |
kmlussier |
bshum++ |
13:34 |
dbs |
*poof* docs are now part of the search engine |
13:34 |
kmlussier |
It's so nice to see the site search back. |
13:34 |
gmcharlt |
#info requested changes include: making sure that all EG mailing lists are indexed as well as the blog |
13:34 |
gmcharlt |
dbs++ |
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* phasefx |
is late to the party |
13:35 |
kmlussier |
dbs++ #It's like magic! |
13:35 |
ericar |
dbs++ |
13:35 |
dbs |
RSCEL is gone |
13:35 |
gmcharlt |
cool |
13:36 |
frank |
hi all, Could someone tellme how can I update the cover image resource in my TPAC?, I already upload the correct image to openlibrary.org, but the change doesn´t apply yet |
13:36 |
jeff |
wiki is in there twice, but that's as it should be for now. getting google to notice and prefer the wiki hostname over the old /dokuwiki/ subdir is probably worth doing also. |
13:37 |
jeff |
~sorrymeeting | frank |
13:37 |
pinesol_green |
frank: Hi! Welcome to the Evergreen ILS support channel! We're in a meeting right now, so we'll ask you to hold your questions until we're done. Thanks! |
13:37 |
bshum |
Likewise if we ever get all the IRC logs consolidated / uniform |
13:38 |
frank |
pinesol_green: oh sorry, I didn´t know |
13:38 |
pinesol_green |
frank: http://www.firstpersontetris.com/ |
13:38 |
pinesol_green |
frank: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
13:38 |
gmcharlt |
phasefx: can you speak regarding the FAQs? |
13:38 |
jeff |
bshum: Especially now that it's more common to link from bug comments to irc logs, we should try to ensure that links aren't broken in any future consolidation. |
13:38 |
phasefx |
gmcharlt: I have done nothing since the last meeting with them |
13:38 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
13:38 |
jeff |
heck, the logs even link to themselves now. :-) |
13:38 |
phasefx |
they're probably worth putting up as is, but they can have more |
13:39 |
gmcharlt |
well, nothing like spurring incremental improvement |
13:39 |
dbs |
FAQ: When will the FAQ be updated? |
13:39 |
gmcharlt |
folks - thoughts on phasefx going ahead and putting up what he has now? IIRC, he made draft avaialble for review last meeting |
13:40 |
phasefx |
for reference: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=phasefx:faq |
13:42 |
kmlussier |
I think he can put up what he has now as long as number 7 is either answered or removed. |
13:42 |
phasefx |
yeah, I can remove the skeletal bits from "production" |
13:43 |
gmcharlt |
+1 |
13:43 |
bshum |
+1 |
13:43 |
jeff |
+1 |
13:45 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
13:45 |
gmcharlt |
phasefx: do you have the tuits in the near term? |
13:45 |
phasefx |
gmcharlt: yes, but may need a point in the right direction re: wordpress, menus, etc. |
13:45 |
gmcharlt |
phasefx: cool; I can help with that |
13:45 |
phasefx |
excellent |
13:46 |
gmcharlt |
#action phasefx will put up the completed FAQ entries |
13:46 |
gmcharlt |
then for the final action item |
13:46 |
gmcharlt |
I have indeed pinged RoganH about his idea for the support page |
13:46 |
gmcharlt |
*cough* did so today |
13:47 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
13:48 |
gmcharlt |
before we look at the task spreadsheet, are there any new topics folks would like to bring up? |
13:50 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
13:50 |
gmcharlt |
so, from the task list |
13:51 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: regarding the get involved page? any progress to report? |
13:52 |
gmcharlt |
bshum: similarly regarding the old IRC logs? |
13:52 |
bshum |
gmcharlt: Haven't had time to poke at the IRC log migration/consolidation quite yet. |
13:52 |
kmlussier |
No progress to report today, but I'm really excited to work on it when I have the tuits. |
13:52 |
gmcharlt |
we need to find a tuit mine ;) |
13:52 |
bshum |
I think what I'm likely to do there is chat with the other web admins about how we plan to provision new VMs |
13:53 |
gmcharlt |
ah, good idea |
13:53 |
bshum |
And work on migrating/upgrading our logging infrastructure to something new. |
13:53 |
* bshum |
hates squeeze :) |
13:53 |
gmcharlt |
#action bshum to kick off a discussion with the other server admins regarding VMs & OS upgrades |
13:53 |
bshum |
But more realistically, I'd like to expand our offerings if we can. |
13:55 |
gmcharlt |
any other last minute topics? |
13:57 |
gmcharlt |
ok |
13:57 |
gmcharlt |
thanks everybody! |
13:57 |
gmcharlt |
#endmeeting |
13:57 |
pinesol_green |
Meeting ended Wed Jun 18 13:57:30 2014 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
13:57 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-06-18-13.01.html |
13:57 |
pinesol_green |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-06-18-13.01.txt |
13:57 |
pinesol_green |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-06-18-13.01.log.html |
13:57 |
bshum |
gmcharlt++ |
13:57 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
13:57 |
jeff |
gmcharlt++ |
13:57 |
ericar |
gmcharlt++ |
13:58 |
phasefx |
gmcharlt++ |
13:59 |
phasefx |
frank: still around? |
13:59 |
frank |
yes phasefx |
14:00 |
phasefx |
there is a way you can drop an image onto the file system on your apache servers and have that image served instead of a remotely fetched image.. let me dig |
14:00 |
dbs |
phasefx: wouldn't the simplest way be to clear the cached value? |
14:01 |
phasefx |
dbs: sounds good to me |
14:01 |
dbs |
Of course I can't remember the exact command for removing the cached value... |
14:01 |
gmcharlt |
memcrm/memrm |
14:02 |
dbs |
gmcharlt: heh, that much I remembered; more the mapping of bib id to cache key |
14:03 |
gmcharlt |
ah :) |
14:03 |
dbs |
_somebody_ hasn't been responsible for administering a production system for a while |
14:06 |
phasefx |
hrmm.. not isbn anywhere :) ac.jacket.small.record_210 ac.jacket.medium.record_210 |
14:07 |
phasefx |
frank: you need to get the record number from the URL, it follows the word record/ |
14:07 |
phasefx |
assuming a modern evergreen |
14:08 |
phasefx |
frank: I'm using a command like this once I have the record number (in my case, 210): memrm --servers=127.0.0.1 ac.jacket.small.record_210 |
14:08 |
dbs |
phasefx++ |
14:08 |
phasefx |
you may need to change the IP address to match where your memcached server is running what it is specifically listening on |
14:08 |
phasefx |
for example, I get an error using localhost instead of 127.0.0.1. It seems picky |
14:09 |
jeff |
also, memrm may be spelled memcrm on your system. |
14:09 |
jeff |
and may require MEMCACHED_SERVERS=127.0.0.1 memrm key_name_here |
14:09 |
phasefx |
frank: the other key is the same, but with the word medium instead of small |
14:10 |
frank |
phasefx: excellent, |
14:10 |
phasefx |
frank: now, if OpenLibrary is still serving the original image, despite you having contributed a new cover, we'll have to do something else |
14:10 |
frank |
Is there a command I could use to update all image cover records? |
14:10 |
* jeff |
formulates a launchpad bug for better selective clearing of AC content |
14:10 |
jeff |
frank: yes. one second. |
14:10 |
phasefx |
frank: you can ... I'll let jeff have it :) |
14:12 |
* dbs |
added an API for cache-clearing the resolver results |
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jeff |
dbs++ |
14:12 |
dbs |
laziness++ |
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14:13 |
dbs |
open-ils.resolver.delete_cached_holdings if you're interested in a template |
14:13 |
dbs |
can't claim whether it's good form or not at this point; distant past! |
14:14 |
jeff |
you'll want to export the MEMCACHED_SERVERS environment variable to match your memcached server: |
14:14 |
jeff |
export MEMCACHED_SERVERS=127.0.0.1 |
14:15 |
jeff |
then: |
14:15 |
jeff |
memcdump | grep ^ac.jacket. | xargs memcrm |
14:15 |
jeff |
memcdump isn't guaranteed to dump the names of all keys |
14:15 |
jeff |
so that is an inexact science |
14:15 |
jeff |
if you know you want a specific jacket image cleared, that's often best. |
14:16 |
jeff |
also, you might get several "memcache error NOT FOUND" -- that's fine. |
14:16 |
frank |
ok ok jeff thanks |
14:16 |
frank |
:D |
14:18 |
phasefx |
jeff++ |
14:18 |
phasefx |
I never really took the time to grok xargs |
14:25 |
jeff |
it can be dangerous. |
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kmlussier |
dbs: FWIW, that link behavior in the bib record seems fine to me too. |
14:46 |
gmcharlt |
mentioning here as an FYI to other web team members - I've created WP accounts for two of the 2015 conference folks |
14:47 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
14:48 |
dbs |
kmlussier: thanks |
14:49 |
dbs |
sanity checks are always good (and with me, occasionally necessary - heh) |
14:49 |
kmlussier |
dbs: I think looking at sites like Amazon serves as a good sanity check. |
14:50 |
kmlussier |
I've also seen a lot of online databases do the same thing with their subjects, but I don't necessarily think we should be using them as examples of intuitive interfaces. :) |
14:50 |
dbs |
kmlussier: that was one of the inspirations for the original TPAC design, as I'm sure you recall |
14:50 |
kmlussier |
dbs: Now that you mention it, yes, I do remember that. |
14:51 |
dbs |
Maybe as you hover over the subject headings, the bits of the heading could get highlighted to show what is going to get searched. Hmm. |
14:51 |
dbs |
Time to patent that idea. |
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Bmagic |
Is it "by design" to not make the email address editable when using the opac as a patron to place a hold? The only code trail I could find was place_hold.tt2 - which doesnt generate an <input type="text"..... I see it in the staff client when placing a hold for someone but not in the opac as a patron placing a hold |
15:45 |
tsbere |
Bmagic: Holds don't keep track of the email address, just a "yes or no" |
15:46 |
tsbere |
Bmagic: As such, editing the email when "placing" the hold would be editing the patron account itself |
15:46 |
Bmagic |
tsbere: aha - I could have swore that I saw it as an input box in the staff client |
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tsbere |
Bmagic: Phone number and SMS info is stored per hold, though, so they can be edited |
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tsbere: but now that I am actually checking it - alas, it does not create the textbox, sorry for the confusion |
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Bmagic |
tsbere++ |
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tsbere: how would one go about opening an external URL in a XUL browser tab? is it even possible? |
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tsbere |
berick: At this point? You probably don't. |
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berick: Attempting to do so would run afoul of the "open external" extension. Modify it, however, and you might be good to go |
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berick |
tsbere: k, that's about what I figured. thanks |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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gsams |
I'm moving our notifications from scripts into the action/trigger table (I know, it should have been done a long time ago) and I'm just about ready to flip the switch. I have one concern however, and want to make sure that print notifications continue to generate for those patrons that do not have emails and for the 30+ day notifications that are always printed. |
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gsams |
You know what... |
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gsams |
I just answered my own question, while typing it out... |
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gsams |
nevermind! |
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gmcharlt |
*quack* |
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hbrennan |
gsams++ I've found the answer just by typing out my questions here, multiple times :) |
18:54 |
gsams |
Sometimes you just need to say it to the world and them wham! |
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hbrennan |
yep |
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hbrennan |
it's always right when you give up looking |
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@later tell jeff the data from the old RSCEL site is on the Evergreen server in moodaepo's home directory. I don't know if you have access or if somebody else will need to grab it for you. |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The operation succeeded. |
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