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* bshum |
is confused over what LBS stands for... |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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csharp |
bshum: maybe the poster means "LVS"? (working from the context of "scalability") |
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kmlussier |
That post confused me too. |
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bradl |
I think there's a good amount to be confused over. |
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* kmlussier |
waves to bradl |
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bradl |
I don't think he means "lazy bowel syndrome". Well. Maybe. |
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* bradl |
waves back at kmlussier |
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kmlussier |
Hmmm...I must have done something wrong with my doc commit for 2.6 and master over the weekend. |
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kmlussier |
@dessert |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs a slice of Strawberry Rhubarb Pie and sends it sliding down the dessert bar to kmlussier |
| 11:43 |
bshum |
@dessert |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs a batch of Coconut Macaroons and sends it sliding down the dessert bar to bshum |
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* kmlussier |
is still waiting for the cupcakes. |
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kmlussier |
pinesol_green: Do you hate cupcakes? |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2&music=6&url=evergreen-ils.org |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
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kmlussier |
How have I never seen the Geocities-izer until today? |
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kmlussier |
It is a beautiful thing. |
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gsams |
wow |
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gsams |
that is |
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gsams |
something |
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rfrasur |
Wait...what? What's the geocities-izer? |
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kmlussier |
rfrasur: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2&music=6&url=evergreen-ils.org |
| 12:21 |
rfrasur |
oh....that's less exciting. |
| 12:21 |
* rfrasur |
lost a lot of content when geocities went under and she didn't pay attention. |
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* kmlussier |
wonders what rfrasur was hoping for. |
| 12:22 |
rfrasur |
I was hoping for all my lost data to come home. |
| 12:22 |
rfrasur |
@eightball Is it my own fault? |
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pinesol_green |
rfrasur: In your dreams. |
| 12:23 |
kmlussier |
rfrasur: Funny, I was just talking to somebody last week (maybe it was rangi?) about a project to archive some geocities content. |
| 12:23 |
rfrasur |
Stuff that they'd downloaded while they still could? |
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kmlussier |
rfrasur: The details are unclear now, but I don't think it was targeting U.S. content. |
| 12:24 |
rfrasur |
That sounds pretty interesting... |
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* rfrasur |
imagines going to a geocities library and discovering all her lost content. |
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* kmlussier |
just needs more animated gifs and blinding colors in her life. |
| 12:26 |
kmlussier |
@dessert rfrasur |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs a big dish of Lime Jello and sends it sliding down the dessert bar to rfrasur |
| 12:26 |
rfrasur |
Ooooo, I do like me some lime jello. |
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kmlussier |
Oh, I'm sorry rfrasur. My intent was to give you something delicious. |
| 12:27 |
rfrasur |
Nope, the jello is good. I'm trying to be responsible for a whole week as far nourishment goes. |
| 12:27 |
kmlussier |
@eightball Will pinesol_green ever give anyone cupcakes? |
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pinesol_green |
kmlussier: The answer is certainly yes. |
| 12:28 |
mmorgan |
@dessert |
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* pinesol_green |
grabs a batch of mllewellyn's Cupcakes and sends it sliding down the dessert bar to mmorgan |
| 12:28 |
mmorgan |
Yes! |
| 12:28 |
rfrasur |
Oooooo |
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mmorgan |
I will share |
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kmlussier |
Hooray! |
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rfrasur |
mmorgan: Please share mine with kmlussier. |
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* rfrasur |
likes jello. |
| 12:29 |
kmlussier |
rfrasur: But I've heard mllewellyn's cupcakes are quite special. |
| 12:29 |
rfrasur |
They are :) |
| 12:30 |
jeff |
rfrasur: regarding geocities, there were several efforts at archiving geocties. for a good overview, see here: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Geocities -- especially "How can I find a page or website I'm looking for?" |
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* rfrasur |
weeps a single tear and bookmarks that page. |
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* jeff |
reminds himself to dust off bug 1264746 for 2.7 |
| 12:44 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1264746 in Evergreen "Add "email password reset" button to user editor" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1264746 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin) |
| 12:46 |
mllewellyn |
Wow, the cupcakes were actually delivered? |
| 12:48 |
rfrasur |
mllewellyn++ |
| 12:49 |
mllewellyn |
Hey, does anyone know if there is a way to set record bucket permissions so that my librarians can add records to a bucket but not do anything to them? (No deleting, no merging, no editing?) I'm trying to figure out a way for them to more quickly put things into their public bookbags (like for their local authors) instead of having to add one bib at a time, and using the staff client record bucket would fill the bill, but |
| 12:50 |
csharp |
mllewellyn: your message was truncated at "bucket would fill the bill, but" |
| 12:50 |
mllewellyn |
our current set up can lead to mischief |
| 12:51 |
mllewellyn |
We don't let them do anything to bibs, we centralized bib record management. |
| 12:51 |
mllewellyn |
The only thing we allow is for the bib to delete itself when the last item is removed. |
| 12:54 |
csharp |
mllewellyn: there is a CREATE_CONTAINER_ITEM permission that should do what you want. They probably have to be able to VIEW_CONTAINER and you wouldn't want them to DELETE_CONTAINER_ITEM if I'm understanding the question correctly |
| 12:55 |
csharp |
actually, since you need CREATE_CONTAINER_ITEM to add items to bookbags, that's probably set already for all your users |
| 12:55 |
mllewellyn |
Yes but what about the buttons to Merge Bibs, delete bibs, etc.? how canthey be disabled? |
| 12:55 |
csharp |
mllewellyn: sorry, I don't know that - probably not easily |
| 12:55 |
mllewellyn |
SOme of my adventurous librarians may try those and we don't whatn them to. |
| 12:55 |
jeff |
if the staff users in question don't have the underlying permission to merge or delete bibs, in theory the buttons will be enabled but not actually do what they do, unless someone enters credentials when prompted that DO have those underlying permissions. |
| 12:56 |
mllewellyn |
That's all I need is for rogue merging to be going on behind our backs. |
| 12:56 |
jeff |
i would recommend testing this theory in a test system with some unimportant bibs, or in a live system with (again) unimportant (say, generated for this test) bibs. :-) |
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mllewellyn |
jeff: OK, thanks |
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* csharp |
installs Windows XP in a VM so he can demonstrate how to install Lubuntu over it in documentation ;-) |
| 12:57 |
mllewellyn |
Since bibs do delete when they remove the last items, I'm thinking they kind of do have permission to delete. |
| 12:58 |
csharp |
well, since DELETE_CONTAINER_ITEM allows patrons to remove bookbag items, it might be set for everyone too, come to think of it |
| 12:59 |
csharp |
so it sounds like you're coming up with a feature request that includes more granular permissions between bib/item buckets and/or bookbags |
| 12:59 |
mllewellyn |
Deleting from a container is different from deleting a bib from the database, isn't it? |
| 12:59 |
csharp |
oh yes |
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mllewellyn |
csharp: But you're right, I was hoping for some granularity. |
| 13:01 |
mmorgan |
mllewellyn: just tried to merge to records from a bucket as a user who didn't have permission, and was prompted for authorization to MERGE_BIB_RECORDS |
| 13:01 |
mmorgan |
btw, thanks for the cupcakes! |
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mllewellyn |
mmorgan: thanks for testing, and you're welcome for the cupcakes. :) |
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mllewellyn |
mmorgan++ |
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phasefx_ |
hrmm, I think there's a typo in 0799.state_field_required_toggle.sql and 2.4.3-2.5.0-upgrade-db.sql. ui.patron.edit.au.state.require vs ui.patron.edit.aua.state.require, and similar |
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tsbere |
phasefx_: It might be fixed by a later update....not sure. >_> |
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phasefx_ |
yeah, not seeing it. I'll bug it for scrutiny and move on |
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gsams |
Where does the OPAC pull the alt text for format icons? I'm on 2.3.5 and am having a heck of a time finding what I'm looking for. |
| 13:34 |
tsbere |
gsams: Coded value map labels, I think/hope at this point |
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tsbere |
Though I forget when it started paying attention to translations. >_> |
| 13:35 |
gsams |
tsbere: I think that was a 2.4 feature, unfortunately for me. Of I figure the icons would be correct at this point |
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tsbere |
gsams: What are you seeing? |
| 13:36 |
gsams |
language material, the label in our system is book |
| 13:36 |
tsbere |
Ahhh, yea, I think the DB is loading the label and then sending it forward, later versions say (or should say) "here is the label's id, look it up with translations in effect please" |
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gsams |
ah, okay. So there isn't any way other than changing the value in the old table, instead of it working off of the public label |
| 13:42 |
gsams |
thanks |
| 13:42 |
gsams |
tsbere++ |
| 13:42 |
tsbere |
gsams: Go find the commit(s) that made it pay attention to translations and such and apply them locally? |
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eeevil |
gsams: in 2.3, the alt text comes from the MODS-transformed version of the bib. there's no way to change those labels other than changing the xslt in the database, but other things will break if you do that |
| 13:55 |
gsams |
tsbere: I have found those commits, but I'm mid migration and don't want to risk it during that time, I think this will just be a bonus of our post migration update. |
| 13:56 |
gsams |
eeevil: that is good to know. I'm glad I wasn't thinking of doing that! |
| 13:56 |
gsams |
tsbere++ |
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gsams |
eeevil++ |
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gsams |
thank you both for the help |
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rangi |
kmlussier: yep the geocities stuff was me |
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csharp |
gmcharlt: jeff: bshum: FYI, looks like our network at QTS is having problems, so it may affect the bots and access to the EG community sites |
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jeff |
thanks for the heads-up |
| 14:42 |
gmcharlt |
ditto |
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frank__ |
Hi all, I am trying to import some records with a match set rule, but I am gettint the follow error on the log, function vandelay.get_expr_from_match_set(integer, hstore) does not exist, does someone have the script to create that function, o what should I do? |
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remingtron |
frank__: I don't know much about using match set rules, but my first guess is that you might be using an older version of Evergreen that doesn't have that function yet. Do you know what version you are using? |
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kmlussier |
remingtron: If frank__ is from the same library as the one that has been asking about match sets on the list, it's 2.5.3. |
| 16:49 |
remingtron |
kmlussier: thanks. I guess we can wait and see if he is. That function would have been added in version 2.3.0, I think. |
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kmlussier |
remingtron: 2.2 I remember it well |
| 16:51 |
remingtron |
kmlussier: then I will trust your memory over my quick googling. :) |
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kmlussier |
remingtron: At some point (not today), I want to run some ideas by you for organizing the public catalog chapter of the docs. I'm struggling with how we combine more administrative tasks with end user information. |
| 16:56 |
remingtron |
kmlussier: cool, I'll be glad to discuss that. I'm around most of the week. |
| 16:57 |
kmlussier |
remingtron: Sounds good. I'll be missing this week's DIG meeting. I'm hoping to have time to give it some real thought on Friday. |
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pinesol_green |
Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html> |
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sseng |
Question about authority.authority_linking table: if i have auth A and auth B (where auth A has a 500 that corresponds to to the 100 field in auth B), after the linking scripts run, what auth (A or B) is the source and what is the target in the authority.authority_linking table? |
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frank__ |
hi remingtron sorry but I was in a meeting, my EG version is 2.5.3 but I was analazyng and I discovered that the functions get_expr_from_match_set and get_expr_from_match_set_point doesnt have the last changes, I have to apply the http://git.esilibrary.com/?p=transitory.git;a=blob_plain;f=Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/upgrade/XXXX.schema.vandelay.import-match-no-like-any.sql;hb=b82c278f404a142bb55d3659d61c5acf1087cf4c solution I guess |
| 18:04 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Vandelay: Fix index-miss with MARC Imports using Match Sets - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b82c278> |
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frank__ |
yes kmlussier , erick started to work on IPICYT last month, I am Francisco Guel, the Library Systems admin |
| 18:09 |
kmlussier |
frank__: I suspected as much, especially after I saw erick start speaking in Spanish on the list. :) I'm happy to help in any way I can once the function gets worked out. I'm afraid I can't help very much with that end of things. |
| 18:12 |
frank__ |
kmlussier: thanks for take a while and response the question about our problem, we really apreciate it, |
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gmcharlt |
http://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net/ |
