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01:57 paxed dreuther: if you want the stuff like pref_ou() location_groups() depth etc. translated, i don't think that's possible. although you can create your own aliases for some of those.
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09:01 csharp ldwhalen: check out master, then create a signoff branch from master, then 'git cherry-pick -s' each commit, then push your signoff branch to working
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09:19 * csharp wishes he had more time to test/signoff on 2.6 fixes
09:19 csharp it's been a crazy few weeks in PINES land
09:20 bradl csharp: what's going on in PINES land?
09:20 bradl I mean, besides the /usual/ crazy :)
09:22 RoganH when everything is crazy, everything is usual.  <- one of the first things I learned in public libraries
09:22 csharp bradl: just the usual crazy amped up to all of us needing to work long weeks in advance of the conference ;-)
09:23 csharp RoganH: true
09:25 jeff long weeks in advance of the conference to get tasks done that need doing and you won't be able to do from the conference, or something else?
09:29 csharp jeff: basically that - especially because I'm going to code4lib the following week
09:29 jeff got it.
09:30 csharp there are lots of PINES things that "only Chris can do" :-)
09:31 bradl csharp: oohhhh
09:31 bradl csharp: well, you should feel loved ;)
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09:31 * csharp feels smothered in love
09:32 bradl and slathered, I hope
09:32 csharp covered, diced
09:32 bradl wait, is this waffle house?
09:32 csharp :-D
09:32 * csharp never did like the word "chunked"
09:33 jeff i have been working to reduce the number of items on a similar list here. i feel that i've made good progress, especially since we were able to schedule our migration to esi hosting during a time when i was... mostly unavailable. :-)
09:34 berick csharp: it's still better than "ham nodules"
09:34 jeff wrote things up, did a dry run, when questions came up during the dry run, i didn't answer them or do anything other than update the documentation and say "there, let me know if that does a better job of explaining it". worked Really Well.
09:35 csharp berick: eewwww
09:37 jeff i liked that simple technique so well, this is probably not the first time i've recommended it. :P
10:03 bshum ldwhalen: csharp: Git signoff is described fairly well on the dev:git wiki page: http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/​doku.php?id=dev:git#sign-offs
10:04 bshum ~git
10:04 pinesol_green See Evergreen git information at http://evergreen-ils.org/do​kuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:git
10:04 bshum dbwells: Sorry I didn't get to talk with you yesterday, I'm sick (today too) so I won't get to poke much at the MVF/CRA reingest issues I was noting earlier this week.
10:05 * bshum is going to wander back off, but feel free to leave me some messages later on things you'd like me to try out.
10:05 dbwells bshum: that's too bad
10:11 csharp ~signoff is <reply> see http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/​doku.php?id=dev:git#sign-offs for information on git signoffs
10:11 pinesol_green I'll remember that, csharp
10:11 dbs @who has been dragged down with sinusitis for 4 weeks and counting?
10:11 pinesol_green dbs: I see nothing, I know nothing!
10:11 dbwells bshum: hope you feel better!
10:22 ldwhalen csharp: and bshum thank you for the information
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11:58 hopkinsju This page was last updated almost 3 years ago and refers to 1.6 - but I find myself referencing it *all the time* - is there something else I should be looking at, or is the query parser stayed the same since way back then?
11:58 hopkinsju http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?i​d=documentation:technical:search_grammar
12:01 eeevil hopkinsju: the grammar and syntax is (mostly) the same, the vocabulary has grown ;)
12:01 eeevil the major difference is multi-valued facet syntax
12:02 jcamins eeevil: how did that change?
12:02 eeevil jcamins: now it's: facet[value1][value2]...
12:02 eeevil it used to be: facet[value1 # value2 # .... ]
12:03 jcamins eeevil: ah. Yeah, I knew the # version.
12:03 eeevil there's plenty of internal difference now, of course
12:03 jcamins Right.
12:03 eeevil much robustness
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12:17 * jeff hardcodes a list of branch phone numbers into print_custom.js
12:18 * tsbere wonders why jeff is doing that
12:18 hopkinsju eeevil: Is there documentation on the newness?
12:35 jeff tsbere: using print_custom() to (among other things) fill a span with a phone number for the library branch based on %SHORTNAME% elsewhere.
12:36 jeff tsbere: since i haven't worked much on bug 608308 recently and co-worker was faced with one option being pre-processing of receipt template files before deploying them.
12:36 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 608308 in Evergreen "receipt template macros should have access to address, phone numbers" (affected: 5, heat: 24) [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608308 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
12:37 tsbere jeff: Have you considered %INCLUDE()% blocks?
12:37 jeff tsbere: six branches, so investigating to see if print_custom() could get access to the aou data directly wasn't high priority for me
12:38 jeff tsbere: looked at that the other day and considered it also, didn't go with it.
12:38 jeff probably could have.
12:40 jeff on refreshing my memory from the other day and peeking at the underlying implementation, i would have opted for %INCLUDE()% next time. :-)
12:41 jeff tsbere++
12:41 tsbere jeff: And to my knowledge, print_custom.js doesn't get enough info for library phone numbers....though it wouldn't be hard to add, and then it would (I believe) become params.lib
12:42 jeff first class macros for phone/etc as mentioned in that bug would proably be more useful than giving print_custom access to the aou data.
12:42 jeff other use cases may not have occurred to me.
12:44 jeff when we switched to print_custom for some things, we were not explicitly calling print_do_sums from within print_custom, thus sums broke. apparently it went unreported for some time, until a co-worker ran into it not working when revising some templates. :P
12:44 jeff fixed now. :P
12:44 tsbere heh
12:46 tsbere jeff: Outside of "that macro didn't exist, and we wanted the data..." I can't think of a lot of reasons to spit things out so that print_custom can get at them.
12:46 tsbere But I don't do a lot of receipt template stuff, so I may not be the best person to come up with ideas there
12:47 jeff we used to use it for a custom date-calculated-from-today, but are phasing that out since we use shelf_expire_time now.
12:47 jeff also, a "holds alias OR truncated last name + first initials" value
12:52 eeevil hopkinsju: not outside commit messages, currently
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13:28 jl- I installed evergreen on debian, does it run/install the same on ubuntu?
13:28 jl- the documentation mentions debian and fedora
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13:34 berick jl-: http://evergreen-ils.org/docume​ntation/install/README_2_5.html -- discusses Ubuntu
13:34 berick ubuntu works fine
13:37 jl- I'm just gonna stick with debian for consistency
13:37 berick debian++
13:37 berick (for servers, anyway)
13:37 dbwells Anyone here willing to test and push bug #1243023?  Everything but the upgrade script and the test already has two signoffs, if that helps.
13:37 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1243023 in Evergreen 2.5 "Browse catalogue titles are doubly escaped?" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1243023
13:43 eeevil dbwells: I assume you just copied over the functions in question for the upgrade script?
13:44 dbwells eeevil: that was certainly my intention
13:46 dbwells My only real concern would be missing a function or copying the wrong one somehow.
13:51 dbwells eeevil: Looking again, I think I need a few more things in that upgrade.  Do I need to create evergreen.oils_xslt_process and also manually drop the public ones?
13:52 dbwells Nothing changed in that function other than the schema, so I wasn't sure what was necessary there.
13:53 dbwells One thing which confused me generally is that all my test DBs already had those functions in the evergreen schema, but I now see that my production DB has them in public.  Hmmmm...
13:54 jeff and I'd wager that some databases have them in both places, potentially conflicting. :-)
13:54 tsbere dbwells: I recommend a DROP FUNCTION with an IF EXISTS clause for the public one
13:55 tsbere after a "create or replace" in the evergreen schema, anyway
13:59 dbwells Okay, maybe overkill, but I'll rework the upgrade script to recreate even the unchanged function and then drop all the public ones which might be hanging around.
14:08 dbwells eeevil: Not sure if you are actually reviewing it, but I force pushed what I hope is a better upgrade script (with one obvious mistake fixed!).
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14:43 eeevil dbwells: sorry, pulled away. so, re the schema, it'd be best to start moving functions from public to evergreen as we touch them, but that's arguably outside the scope of this. a clean install should get those in the evergreen schema, but old, upgraded ones will have them in public (or, scariliy perhaps) both
14:43 eeevil the one in evergreen will take precedence because of the search path (assuming either the correct search_path GUC /or/ an evergreen pg username)
14:44 dbwells eeevil: thanks for the explanation.  I did go ahead and add the addtional create, plus DROP IF EXISTS for any old ones (as suggested by tsbere).
14:44 eeevil tsbere: ah, yes, looks good
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15:18 krvmga csharp: krvmga asked for your email address.
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15:55 berick whoever is poking at bill-dev2.esilibrary.com -- sorry, i'm in the middle of breaking stuff
16:07 pinesol_green [evergreen|Remington Steed] LP1198983: Remove deprecated useragent.override variable - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=10e245f>
16:26 pinesol_green [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1286248: remove references to osrf_ctl.sh - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5e4d60c>
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21:14 jeff goodness.
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