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04:22 dave_bn hi every one. my staff client is having error testing the hostname. the opac is working fine. This is the error I am getting: method=open-ils.circ.survey.retrieve.required params=["eaf4009609fa0037ad3e789f7dbbdbf2"] THROWN: null
04:24 dave_bn this is on freshly installed 2.5.2. I used apt-get method to install on fresh 12.04 x64 and the OPAC seems to be wroking fine. The only drawback being that I am unable to connect form staff client :)
04:47 pinesol_green Incoming from qatests: Test Success - http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live/test.html>
07:06 csharp @later tell dave_bn are there any corresponding messages in /openils/var/log/osrfsys.log?
07:06 pinesol_green csharp: The operation succeeded.
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08:28 csharp @seen senator
08:28 pinesol_green csharp: senator was last seen in #evergreen 2 weeks, 6 days, 20 hours, 36 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <senator> short term, you may consider disabling autosuggest until you figure why there are so many of those or why they take a long time/error out/whatever
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11:38 csharp @quote random
11:38 pinesol_green csharp: Quote #39: "< paxed> oohyea, i got an evergreen sticker." (added by csharp at 08:40 AM, December 17, 2012)
11:38 csharp @motivate
11:38 pinesol_green csharp: No, you're a puzzleheaded kraken!
11:39 Dyrcona @demotivate
11:39 pinesol_green Dyrcona: I see nothing, I know nothing!
11:39 Dyrcona :)
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12:59 jl- tried connecting via staff client but got error: "This server does not support your version of the staff client" -- apache errorlog doesn't show anything
12:59 jl- where do I look which client I should be using?
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13:01 jl- nvm
13:03 jl- can I go back and redo the make staff client stamp?
13:05 jl- ah
13:05 jl- it should match the eg version
13:05 jl- ok
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13:13 jl- what user / pass am I supposed to use for the eg client? neither postgres nor opensrf etc. work for me
13:18 jeffdavis jl-: IIRC, by default a freshly installed Evergreen system will have just one user account, with a randomly generated username and password. You can change them to something that works for you directly in the db.
13:20 jl- jeffdavis: where in the db would that be?
13:20 dbwells jl-: It will also be set to whatever you gave in the --admin-user and --admin-pass options to eg_db_config, assuming you set those options.
13:21 jeffdavis jl-: The actor.usr table. And yeah, what dbwells said about the eg_db_config script (which is in Open-ILS/src/support-scripts I believe)
13:22 dbwells jl-: this step in the install docs : http://evergreen-ils.org/documentati​on/install/README_2_5.html#_creating​_the_evergreen_database_and_schema
13:28 jl- dbwells: strangely that password does not let me log in via staff client or web "my account"
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13:29 jl- maybe it's a firewall issue, the apache log shows no attempts or anything
13:30 jl- nvm
13:30 jl- I see that we never set an admin
13:30 jl- when we built the database
13:30 jl- can I manually insert these?
13:31 jeffdavis there should be an admin account already (record in actor.usr with id = 1), you can just update the username/pwd by either method described above
13:31 jeffdavis but yes, you can also manually insert additional users if you want to
13:32 jeffdavis (eg_db_config updates the existing admin account)
13:32 jeffdavis the docs dbwells linked to are a bit misleading in that the admin account does not use the "egadmin" username these days (I think)
13:33 jeffdavis but maybe that changed in 2.5?
13:33 jl- evergreen-# select * from actor.usr
13:33 jl- evergreen-#
13:33 jl- empty
13:33 jl- same for actor.usr_id_sq
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13:34 jeffdavis you need a semicolon at the end of that select statement
13:35 jl- same result
13:35 dbwells jl-: If you don't have data in the DB yet, you could run the whole command again.  Otherwise, you should also be able to leave out the update/create options and just use the script to set the admin account (assuming that is easier for you than just inserting into the table yourself)
13:35 jl- I lied
13:35 jl- there's something
13:35 jl- but it looks hashed
13:36 jl- dbwells: I do have data :)
13:36 dbwells jl-: Just do a DB update and set the password to whatever you want.  The hashing will happen automatically.
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13:37 dbwells i.e. UPDATE actor.usr set password = 'myPass' where id = 1;
13:37 dbwells If the username isn't something readable, set that too.
13:38 dbwells It isn't hashed, so if it looks hashed, it's just a random value.
13:38 asimon *: What should PERL5LIB be set to for Evergreen 2.4.6 and where is the best place to define it?
13:40 bshum asimon: Depends on your system.  And what you're defining it for.
13:40 eeevil asimon: 2.4 (and some earlier versions, and all later versions) install the perl libs to standard system locations. no need for PERL5LIB
13:41 jl- dbwells: you are great
13:41 jl- thx
13:44 asimon eeevil: Should I remove the export PERL5LIB line from opensrf's .bashrc, since it includes /openils/lib/perl5?
13:45 dbs jeffdavis: "egadmin" is defined back up in the Preamble of evergreen-ils.org/documentat​ion/install/README_2_5.html
13:45 dbs THERE ARE NO LIES
13:45 eeevil asimon: only if you have old versions in there .... but even then, the system ones should be picked up first
13:45 jeffdavis dbs: heh, thanks :)
13:45 eeevil asimon: but, for cleanliness' sake, sure
13:45 asimon eeevil: TY
13:47 eeevil np
14:32 jl- are there any evergreen camps / summits
14:33 bshum jl-: Actually, the Evergreen conference is next week, in Boston.
14:33 hbrennan Beat me to it
14:33 Dyrcona jl-: There is the conference and there is usually a hackaway once a year.
14:34 jl- yes I just saw that
14:34 kmlussier Beat me too.
14:34 hbrennan Last day to register today!
14:34 jl- maybe my employer will fly me
14:34 Dyrcona Some local groups get together from time to time.
14:34 jl- ;)
14:34 hbrennan :)
14:35 jl- it's titled '2013' tho
14:35 jl- in the calendar
14:35 jl- :P
14:35 kmlussier Today is the last day to pre-register. There will be on-site registration for anyone who needs it.
14:35 kmlussier Heh, I can fix that.
14:36 kmlussier hbrennan: Speaking of the conference, I owe you an answer to a question, don't I?
14:38 kmlussier hbrennan: We have around 180 people registered.
14:38 hbrennan kmlussier: Nope. Amy got back to me this am
14:38 hbrennan :)
14:38 hbrennan Thanks!
14:38 jl- oh nice 180
14:38 hbrennan I am soooooo excited
14:38 kmlussier I am too!
14:39 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1281750 Ignore deleted users in usrgroup info APIs - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=291bce0>
14:43 jl- kmlussier: will on-site registration be more expensive?
14:44 kmlussier No, it won't. But it will be credit-card only.
14:44 kmlussier Actually, pre-registration is credit-card only at this point too.
14:46 kmlussier jl-: How far would you have to travel if you came?
14:47 hbrennan No excuses! If I can make it from Alaska, and Olli can get in from Finland...
14:47 hbrennan :)
14:47 kmlussier I think hbrennan might get the reward for most miles traveled this year.
14:48 Dyrcona Is Olli coming this year? I thought he jumped ship to Koha.
14:49 hbrennan Oh no, I don't know.
14:49 kmlussier Dyrcona: No, I don't think we have any registrations from across the pond this year.
14:49 hbrennan Darn. I helped teach him how to eat a taco last year
14:51 jl- sweet
14:51 jl- my boss is sending me
14:51 jl- make that 181
14:51 bshum dbwells: I'm still wrestling with the reingests needed post-mvf/cra.  Apparently none of my filters work as I expect and in fact seem to be actively hiding certain materials from my searches in certain cases.
14:51 kmlussier Woo hoo! That's great news!
14:52 bshum The only ones that are showing up are the few I manually did a full reingest on
14:52 hbrennan Way to go jl-++
14:52 bshum Well, not only
14:52 bshum But it's sporadic and weird.
14:53 jl- kmlussier: 6 hours from PA
14:53 kmlussier jl-: That's not too bad then. I look forward to meeting you at the conference.
14:54 jl- absolutely
14:54 hbrennan jl-: Did you just go live with Evergreen?
14:54 jl- hbrennan: we're looking at moving our consortium from voyager
14:55 jl- which would mean a lot of work
14:55 hbrennan It's worth it. You won't even remember the months of work it takes to migrate
14:55 hbrennan Our library moved from Sirsi a year ago
14:55 hbrennan well, less than a year
14:56 Dyrcona jl-++
14:56 jl- well we have 18 universities with a voyager-iv
14:56 jl- so it's scary
14:56 jl- but we are looking into it
14:57 kmlussier jl-: There's an academic consortium in our area that will have a large contingent at the conference this year. They're contemplating a move from voyager too.
14:57 hbrennan jl-: I agree it's scary. :) But that's half the fun
14:58 jl- it's not fun when you are the only developer :P
14:59 hbrennan I would recommend some help during the migration. We used Equinox and they were invaluable.
15:00 hbrennan They knew all the problems that would occur before they happened
15:01 eeevil hbrennan: we require all our data services folks to bathe in radioactive goo, so they gain mind-reading and precog abilities
15:02 hbrennan eeevil: Ahh, that's your secret
15:03 bradl eeevil: I was wondering what that smell was
15:04 eeevil bradl: you didn't notice the ominous green glow down the hallway?
15:07 bradl Oh, I thought it was the pollen
15:08 eeevil ah. nope! green goo
15:09 hbrennan_away chasing down a dying switch for our public computers... arg, why this week
15:14 jl- so the marriot runs for 329 per night
15:14 jl- anyone know if a lower budget hotel/motel near by?
15:20 bradl ah, right, the conference rate went away :(
15:20 hbrennan jl-: The Hyatt Regency and Marriott Courtyard both have prices under $200, but I'm not sure the distance. They are both listed as Cambridge though
15:21 kmlussier The Regency is a hike (I walked it once), but there is a shuttle to Kendall Square.
15:21 hbrennan $161 for the Hyatt.. sounds like a screaming deal for Boston
15:21 kmlussier The Marriott's prices also go down later in the week.
15:23 bshum Google maps puts both of those fairly distantly away.  4 min by car, 12 by bus
15:23 bshum Doable though :)
15:23 hbrennan I'm a sucker for a good travel deal.... back to work, Holly,.. stop playing travel agent
15:25 kmlussier bshum: It's a 20 minute walk. The shuttle they provide was faster than 12 minutes. Google maps must be calculating it based on public transportation.
15:26 bshum Correct, public transportation.
15:26 bshum Google predicted 26 minutes by walking :)
15:26 bshum But close enough.
15:26 kmlussier Of course, I don't know how often the hotel's shuttle runs. They were trying to sell me something when I used, so it showed up right away.
15:26 * bshum tends to walk slow.
15:26 * kmlussier must be a fast walker.
15:27 jl- what's the closest amtrak station ?
15:27 kmlussier It was a bitterly cold day. Even you would have walked fast bshum.
15:27 kmlussier South Station in Boston.
15:27 hbrennan And there's a T stop right there at the conference Kendall/MIT
15:27 kmlussier The red line (subway) leaves from there. Kendall Square is right on the red line.
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15:50 hopkinsju How are marc tags/subfields tied into TT variables? I'd like to add the 245$h to search results. attr.title isn't enough, and attr.title_extended is too much. Where are these defined?
15:52 bshum All of those are in misc_util.tt2 I think
15:52 tsbere You will find a line that includes xml.findnodes('//*[@tag="245"]/*[@code="a" or @code="b" or @code="n" or @code="p"]');
15:52 tsbere Just add more or @code="?" pieces
16:01 * Dyrcona twitches.....
16:08 * Dyrcona added several lines worth of xml.findnodes(...) to misc_util.tt2 this afternoon.
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16:11 hopkinsju thanks guys!
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16:27 bshum Sigh
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16:27 rangi what did you do? :)
16:28 bshum It's what I can't seem to do.
16:28 bshum These bib records just don't want to be found.
16:28 eeevil Dyrcona: I'm twitching too, and pining for bibtemplate
16:30 bshum I wonder if it's possible that we've managed to reingest all the stuff that's multi, but all the single stuff isn't done right.  So things like... books.  Don't work.
16:31 bshum I have to read at the innards of this thing to try figuring out where more of this lives in the database
16:31 bshum I think I've been staring at it too long
16:32 bshum But that can't be it... there's books that are just fine too.  *grumble*
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16:45 bshum Well that's weird
16:45 bshum Browse "the help" and it says 13 entries.  Click on it and it retrieves only four hits.
16:46 bshum This is definitely some weird, weird, weird.... :(
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17:42 * dbs throws up in his mouth a little bit at the browser-compatibility memories of bibtemplate
17:43 dbs bshum: reproducible on master with the sample data set?
18:27 bshum dbs: I don't believe that would be a problem with a clean DB. Though I didn't test upgrading one from a previous master up with stock data. I think my issues are entirely related to incomplete reingesting.
18:27 bshum If I do a full reingest, eventually my bibs show up. At least for the few I've manually forced to reingest
18:28 bshum I'm trying again with search_format which seems new but wasn't part of the suggested partial reingest.
18:29 bshum For some reason I'm having a hard time putting two and two together on where everything lives in the database tables now.
18:49 dbs bshum: it's grown really complex over the last version
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19:43 ldwhalen dbwells_: Do I still have time to get my commits intp rc1?
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