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09:44 RoganH good morning interwebs
09:45 berick tally-ho
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09:51 phasefx top of the morning
09:54 csharp cheerio good lads
09:55 * csharp sips tea, replaces monocle
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10:11 RoganH There needs to be a Google Glass monocle option.
10:14 phasefx Mr. Peanut edition
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10:28 csharp phasefx++
10:31 gsams @wunder 76262
10:31 pinesol_green gsams: The current temperature in Roanoke, Texas is 18.0°F (9:27 AM CST on March 03, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 5.0°F. Pressure: 30.53 in 1034 hPa (Rising).  Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 10 am CST this morning...
10:31 bshum gsams: That's just stupid.
10:32 gsams so Saturday it was in the upper 60s
10:32 gsams yesterday we had an ice storm
10:32 gsams it's been a great weekend over here haha
10:33 bshum Sure sounds like it.
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10:49 krvmga I got an email today from Overdrive saying that this month was "Dummies Month".
10:51 krvmga I also got a request today, for SMS messages from the catalog, that the first choice in the Mobile Carrier list should be something like "Select a Carrier" rather than an actual carrier.
10:51 krvmga i tried putting in a dummy carrier that would show up first in the list and this worked fine
10:52 krvmga except you could still enter a phone number and, on Submit, would get a "message has been sent successfully" message even though no gateway was present
10:52 Bmagic RoganH: top of the mornin
10:53 krvmga has anyone done this successfully yet, what i'm trying to do?
10:58 phasefx krvmga: maybe add some javascript to disable the submit button if the sms checkbox is checked but the carrier is set to your dummy carrier?  there are other things that do that for other reasons, so some care would be needed
10:58 krvmga phasefx: interesting.  i hide the checkbox (people were confused about the checkbox) but this might work.
10:59 phasefx krvmga: or maybe disable the textbox for the phone number until a valid carrier is selected
10:59 phasefx and disable and clear the textbox if it gets switched back to the dummy entry
11:00 * phasefx likes that better
11:00 krvmga phasefx: also interesting. thx
11:00 krvmga phasefx++
11:00 kmlussier krvmga: Sounds similar to the issue reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1098685. You might want to click the "affects me too" link.
11:00 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1098685 in Evergreen "User can select SMS notify without providing a valid address" (affected: 2, heat: 12) [Undecided,Confirmed]
11:03 krvmga kmlussier: i clicked the "affects me too" link. thx.
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11:09 bradl wow, I didn't realize the EOB list was for advertising
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11:14 dbs bradl: are you talking about the nomination?
11:15 bradl dbs: oh, is that what it is?
11:16 dbs as far as nominations go, that seems within the bounds of reason to me; one needs to provide rationale as to why a candidate would make a good board member
11:17 bradl dbs: then perhaps the request for nominations should have been clearer
11:17 bradl (and do we have precident fron previous elections?)
11:18 kmlussier Yes, absolutely. The nomination dbs did for me. :)
11:19 kmlussier I would have done the same if I had gotten my nomination out, but somebody else beat me to it.
11:19 bradl Alright, I'll be quiet then. Ya'll have fun with that. :)
11:20 bshum kmlussier: Slacker.
11:20 bshum :D
11:20 kmlussier bshum: Sorry. I just had my day job to contend with!
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11:25 Bmagic those of you that were involved with my Encode issue on Friday - I have found the line of code that is creating the error:  $thisXML = OpenILS::Application::AppU​tils->entityize($thisXML);
11:25 kmlussier So will this be our first contested EOB election? Excellent!
11:27 RoganH Do you mean I might be unthroned as the least popular election ever?
11:27 RoganH That'll make me sad.
11:31 bshum Heh
11:32 Bmagic Anybody had OpenILS::Application::AppUtils->entityize();  cause Encode.pm to throw an exception about wide characters?
11:37 dbwells Bmagic: If you have a newish Encode.pm, you may be getting bit by this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1242999
11:37 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1242999 in Evergreen "Encode.pm 2.54 breaks database functions (naco_normalize, maintain_control_numbers, others)" (affected: 1, heat: 12) [High,Fix committed]
11:37 dbwells Bmagic: try the entityize function fix from there and see if your problems are solved.
11:38 Bmagic dbwells: I'll give it a whirl
11:38 Bmagic I think that I have asked this before, what is the magic trick to find the version that I'm using (of Encode.pm)
11:39 Bmagic I might have answered my own question: vi /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1/Encode.pm
11:39 Bmagic 2.57
11:39 Bmagic (this is a debian squeeze box)
11:41 Dyrcona Bmagic: The usual way to check a perl module version is:
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11:42 Dyrcona perl -MMODULE::SUBMODULE -e 'print $MODULE::SUBMODULE::VERSION . "\n"'
11:42 Dyrcona perl -MEncode -e 'print $Encode::VERSION . "\n"'
11:43 Bmagic cool
11:43 dbwells Bmagic: That seems to be the absolute newest version; I reckon you must have pulled that in from CPAN at some point recently.
11:43 Dyrcona For modules that have a VERSION variable. Some don't.
11:43 Bmagic dbwells: I believe I did pull that from CPAN recently
11:44 Bmagic That means that this box is hosed
11:44 Dyrcona No, you can uninstall the Encode.pm that you installed from CPAN. That should put you back to what came with your Perl distribution.
11:45 dbwells Or just install the fixes from that bug.  They are already committed to master through rel_2_4.
11:46 Bmagic dbwells: I'm using 2.4.1
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11:47 Dyrcona Bmagic: Do you use git to fetch code or do you install from tarballs?
11:48 Bmagic appears that the person who did this upgrade, used the github repo
11:49 gmcharlt please register to vote in the upcoming EOB election - survey is at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WM5ZVWG
11:50 * gmcharlt would appreciate it if somebody who has op linked to the survey in the channel topic
11:52 Topic for #evergreen is now Register to vote in the upcoming EOB election: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WM5ZVWG | Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged. | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org
11:52 gmcharlt jeff++
11:54 Dyrcona Bmagic: Add the main git.evergreen-ils.org repo and pull the changes from there.
12:03 jeff Oh how I wish circ policy matrix matchpoints could force a certain event, to make some things less-overrideable.
12:04 jeff (How much? A little now, maybe not-at-all later.)
12:05 jeff I'm also wondering how insane it might be to have certain matchpoints exclude other checks -- like, "Permission Group FOO checking out item with Circ Modifier BAR = skip max items out checks"
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12:17 kayals hi. on Patron registration field Country is blank. How do we make default country as USA
12:22 mmorgan kayals: In the Library Settings Editor, "Default Country for New Addresses in Patron Editor" is a setting where you can enter USA as the value.
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12:32 gsams I have a question for anyone with experience using a dialer: Is it possible to limit the dialer to a single location's patrons?  I assume this could be done via action/triggers but I wanted to be sure.
12:35 * csharp looks around for a virtual sticker saying he just registered to vote
12:36 csharp "whatever it is, I'm against it"
12:36 gmcharlt no virtual stickers until the actual vote
12:36 gmcharlt sorry
12:36 gmcharlt ;)
12:41 RoganH Now thanks to csharp I want to watch Horsefeathers.  I can't get the song out of my head!
12:41 csharp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtMV44yoXZ0
12:43 kmlussier I usually start scheduling a dev meeting at the beginning of the month. But should we hold off on an IRC meeting since we'll all be meeting at the conference?
12:43 kmlussier Or do we need a meeting to gether ready for the conference?
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12:45 gmcharlt maybe only if we need one to coordinate final stuff for the 2.6 RC?
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13:00 kayals thank you mmorgan
13:03 kayals thank you again mmorgan.
13:03 mmorgan kayals: YW:)
13:18 kmlussier Well, if anyone thinks we should schedule something, just ping me and  I'll put out a Doodle poll.
13:19 RoganH Schedule anything?  That could be dangerous.
13:20 kmlussier RoganH: Sure thing. What do you want me to schedule. :)
13:21 RoganH kmlussier: You know, people don't usually ask me what I want to do for fear that I'll actually answer.  I'm kind of at a loss for a moment.
13:22 gmcharlt well, Pinky, what shall we do today?
13:22 RoganH I don't know brain, where do we find a hula hoop, thirty quarts of vaseline and a sand worm costume at this time night?
13:23 * gmcharlt is glad that the cup of tea was not actually on my lips just then
13:23 jcamins RoganH++ # it's good that I wasn't drinking anything
13:24 RoganH :)
13:39 csharp RoganH++
13:40 * csharp once had a kitten that looked just like The Brain
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15:21 tspindler I have a staff member who wanted to update an SMS notification (enter carrier and cell for a given hold), he doesn't seem to have the permission should this be avaialbe with "UPDATE HOLD"
15:27 csharp tspindler: from a quick peek at the code, yes, it sounds like your assumption is correct
15:28 csharp however, you make sure the staff member has the right depth and working location to do that
15:28 csharp s/you make/you might make/
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17:42 Bmagic would anyone be able to point me to the table in EG DB where I can find the data stored for patron's "lists" created with the OPAC ?
17:42 dbs Bmagic: yep, one second
17:43 dbs container.biblio_record_entry_bucket IIRC
17:43 Bmagic dbs: TY
17:44 dbs which will then have a set of 0 or more container.biblio_record_entry_bucket_item rows per bucket
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