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10:01 * berick confirmed over the weeknd that the jetty app works fine on a mac, ditto Firefox
10:05 jeff berick++
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10:11 Dyrcona berick: Are you referring to something like so: http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/128145/R​un-Jetty-Web-Server-Within-Your-Application
10:14 berick Dyrcona: close, but not exactly.  in my code, jetty runs as a standalone service
10:14 berick since there is no over-arching Java app to embed it into
10:15 berick though we could use some of this code, if we wanted to build a small control (start/stop/etc) UI
10:16 Dyrcona Is this for the server or the new staff client?
10:16 Dyrcona I admit, I've not kept up with IRC for the past few days.
10:16 * Dyrcona unlike most developers here, actually likes Java.
10:17 Dyrcona berick: nm, the previous questions. I found it in the logs.
10:17 berick Dyrcona: for the staff client.  This is the bit that handles printing and (long-term) file storage
10:17 Dyrcona :)
10:19 Dyrcona I find some of the comments amusing. :)
10:19 berick i always enjoy writing Java for small-ish projects (after you beat the classpath into submission)
10:19 berick probably couldn't do it all the time, though
10:19 berick Dyrcona: in my code or the codeproject stuff?
10:20 Dyrcona berick: In the IRC logs. :)
10:20 berick ohh;)
10:31 csharp @quote random
10:31 pinesol_green csharp: Quote #70: "<rfrasur> I think every librarian needs their own toolbox." (added by Dyrcona at 11:09 AM, November 07, 2013)
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10:50 Dyrcona @quote search 'more quotes'
10:50 pinesol_green Dyrcona: No matching quotes were found.
10:50 Dyrcona @quote search more quotes
10:50 pinesol_green Dyrcona: 1 found: #2: "<tsbere> We need more quotes"
10:51 * csharp subscribes to Evergreen Quotes Premium™ for high quality IRC quotes
10:58 jeff it's an in-app purchase.
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11:39 * berick udpates bill-dev2 (staff web proto) to master, re-ingests 40k records
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12:11 Dyrcona dbwells: Thank you. That works for me.
12:11 jeff heh. lost any response in the netsplit.
12:14 dbwells For jeff and the logs (if I was on the "wrong" side): "Based on where we are at, I am looking at 3/12 for the RC cutting, and final TBD based on RC testing/reception."
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12:31 jeff dbwells++ thanks :-)
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13:04 Dyrcona eeevil: I got a conflict in 990.schema.unapi.sql when merging working/collab/miker/lp1234845_ranked_volumes with master just now. Thought you might like to know.
13:04 Dyrcona Two conflicts in the one file, actually.
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13:09 eeevil Dyrcona: yeah, I'm sure it'll need to be looked at in light of the changes to master last week
13:09 eeevil thanks for the head's up
13:09 Dyrcona yw
13:11 eeevil I'll rebase right after lunch.  do you want a ping when it's done?
13:15 Dyrcona That would be cool, thanks!
13:15 Dyrcona I am waiting on a database dump to finish in the meantime.
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13:52 Dyrcona Excess flood and I'm not even at my desk.
13:53 * Dyrcona wonders what his IRC client does behind his back.
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14:05 eeevil Dyrcona: rebased to http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/E​vergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/coll​ab/miker/lp1234845_ranked_volumes-rebased
14:05 Dyrcona Thanks muchly.
14:06 eeevil no no, thank you, sir
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14:33 mrpeters afternoon all, can paralell_pg_loader.pl be used for authority records, or does one still need to use the old pg_loader.pl as referenced at http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id​=authorities:2.0:importing_authority_records
14:33 mrpeters parallel_pg_loader.pl -or are < my.are I'm hoping
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15:25 jeff Hrm. Allowing an HTML view of a user's own list while logged in isn't as simple as "just works".
15:30 jeff Ah. Looks like _prepare_biblio_search in OpenILS::WWW::EGCatLoader doesn't pass the auth token to the container() search clause.
15:30 jeff That would do it.
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16:34 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Translation updates - po files - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8267e3a>
16:34 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Translation updates - newpot - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=ac3f307>
16:39 phasefx postgres question, since my usual experts are out :)  true or false, everything that happens within a stored procedure is effectively happening within a transaction?
16:43 dbs phasefx: true
16:44 dbs phasefx: Do you want to expand on why you're asking that question?
16:52 phasefx dbs: thanks man, yes one sec
16:55 tsbere phasefx: Generally, any one "statement" from the client is always in a transaction....if one doesn't exist, one comes into existance for the duration of the statement.
16:56 phasefx dbs: a customer is looking at the record load part of Evergreen in Action, and asked the question should they use transactions?  I was thinking it'd be redundant if they're calling SELECT staging_importer();
16:57 * phasefx used to be very fearful of transactions and bib loads, but it's not that bad resource-wise with inserts
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16:57 phasefx tsbere: that was my feeling, but wasn't sure, thanks man
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21:03 jeff pg_restore seems to leave us no way (other than hand-editing its sql) to avoid search_path issues on indexes that require functions that use unqualified calls to functions outside their schema (in, say -- the evergreen schema)
21:05 jeff (it explicitly sets search_path before restoring each schema)
21:05 jeff which overrides pretty much any other default search path.
21:09 jeff i think it comes down to either living with it (in this case it's not fatal, just annoying for pg_dump/pg_restore), setting a search path in the function itself, or switching to fully-qualified function calls (evergreen.oils_xpath_string instead of oils_xpath_string)
21:09 jeff unless i'm missing something, which is still possible.
21:42 eeevil jeff: or, restore as a user called "evergreen"
21:42 jeff i... oh, right.
21:42 jeff see, i thought of that, then thought i had been doing that.
21:43 jeff oh well. i'll let this one finish then re-run with user evergreen. betting that'll do the trick. :-)
21:51 eeevil however, fully qualifying stored procs would be a GoodThing(tm)
21:52 eeevil jeff: there's also slony, and binary restore ... both with their complications, of course
21:58 jeff FK constraint errors also. At least one each in actor.usr_standing_penalty, serial.item, and serial.materialized_holding_code
21:58 jeff the ausp one i'm familar with and have encountered before. the other two seem recent.
21:59 jeff nothing major, just something noteworthy when i should be beating back the snowbanks with a sharp shovel. :-)
23:57 * jeff runs another pg_restore

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